Are women too spoiled and/or pampered in American society?

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I feel like the argument can be made that women in American society are indeed spoiled and/or pampered primarily because MEN are simps and can never say “no” to a woman. I don’t think it’s the woman’s fault entirely, because men constantly LIE, and give attention to women.

Pussy boi:
you’re so right, that dude was a total dick, I wouldn’t treat you that way, you didn’t do anything wrong.

Gullible “angel”:
oh my gosh, you’re so sweet (not). You’re right, I didn’t do anything wrong even though I’m crazy, I’m unreasonable, I’m a cheater, etc.

Pussy boi:
I’m totally going to have sex with her now.

So MEN, hold women accountable and stop lying to them.

Lying and trying to be false/nice will NOT get you pussy, so stop being compelled to do it because you think your chances will increase.

Stop defending women all the time

Stop complimenting women all the time. One or a few times is good enough. It’s annoying after that.

Don’t put her on a pedestal you simp fucks.

Not all women are like this and not all men are like this

This is towards you fuckers who do this

tartaarsaus · Accepted Answer

1. I’m not American
2. I don’t think they are remotely spoiled. Sure, they obviously get more attention from men than vice versa (but clearly, this also may lead to more catcalling and stuff, which I’ll assume is not desired). But I honestly doubt that factors in in the grand scheme of things.

Getting more attention from random guys at university, when going out or on streets or at the job is not gonna make much of a difference (especially when she is committed to a guy already) for likely far more impactful things, i. e. mortgages, regulations on employment, personal finance, healthcare and more.

It can also be pretty negative. Read this thread lately on twitter (obviously heavily subjected to self-selection bias and biases in perception) and the number of times those women just felt threatened by a dude giving attention to them randomly was quite shocking so to say. Case in point, a study was conducted in Amsterdam. Over 80% of women between 18 and 34 report intimidation on streets. Study by Erasmus university Rotterdam, when discounting staring and compliments, 84% of women report receiving sexually tinted advances on streets. I’d bet these are predominantly men causing this. Obviously, I’ll acknowledge that this also relates to perception, not necessarily intent, but clearly, greater attention is not necessarily nice.

I find it pretty hard to argue women are pampered/spoiled based on them receiving more attention from the opposite sex if that barely factors in to likely far more important things (probability of a random guy flirting with a woman becoming a significant positive thing is probably quite low) and that attention could also have pretty bad consequences in the form of (Sexually tinted) intimidation

hellionthesagereborn · Accepted Answer

It is very true. Also as you pointed out men have allowed it. The problem is in order to be a good person you need to be raised a good person, have good morals yourself (which usually occurs from how you are raised though free will does factor into this), and when those fail you have social pressure to make you a decent human being by external force and by law.

The problem is women are not really beholden to the law (as statistics show they are rarely ever convicted of wrong doing regardless of evidence and on the rare occasion they are, they get only a third of the sentencing for the same crime.) so they have no external force trying to get them in line, then you have society which due to feminism and the weakness of men, doesn't hold women accountable for their actions. So that leaves us only the women who are raised right AND have good personal values beyond that.

Not every one is a good person all the time but external forces help prevent them from slipping up. Without those many women have lost objectivity when it comes to their own behaviors, absurd standards and demands and their actual values to others and its basically a snowball effect. The more they slip and get away with it the harder it is for them to keep their footing and stay in that moral and decent state.

For men the same would be true except we don't tolerate that behavior in men. Women get a pass because they have the power of reproduction which gives them leverage over others and thats why its important that men not "put pussy on a pedestal" and hold women accountable for their actions, not just for the good of men but for the good of women and society.

aWes0MeNeSs · Accepted Answer

I do think there are a lot of very spoiled and entitled people out there who have never been told "no" in their lives, as well as a lot of people with no backbone who will allow others to walk all over them (admittedly, I used to be this way until I realized I deserved better). I think it happens with both genders, however, but there's certainly no shortage of women manipulating desperate men, and desperate men allowing it and bending over backwards for women who don't care about them.

The thing I hate seeing is how it's considered "normal" for a woman to not be self-sufficient at all and to be completely reliant on a man to take care of her, and for men to care for the woman as if she is a child and simply tolerate her disrespecting them or demanding more and more. I've seen this enough times that it just grates on my nerves. The guy is usually actually a good-hearted guy, but for whatever reason settles for a very needy and spoiled princess who has never had to do anything for herself in her life and doesn't think she deserves to. The thing I have an issue with is that if the roles were reversed, people would be outraged, but nobody blinks an eye when a grown woman cannot take care of herself or do very basic adult things. I even have people concerned about me not wanting a relationship because, "Who's going to take care of you?" Uh, me. I'm an adult, I can take care of myself. The other thing I have an issue with that is that those women end up teaching their children to continue the cycle and teach their daughters to just "find a man who will take care of them", and often times that means even if they don't really love the man.

Mystic_Nova · Accepted Answer

Nah. We just have a society where we can voice our opinions. And I don't know where you live, but where I live, women get treated just like the men 🤷‍♀️

Also, I've seen women give ple ty of complements and shit to men, maybe you dont get them because you have a mean attitude.

Also, being a decent person doesn't make you a simp. You men nowadays love using that word for basic decent behavior. Just like feminazis throwing toxic masculinity around.

But I do agree with you that some women are shitty, that is just fact, also, complementing the same person to much is annoying. It loses pizzazz after a while.

Also, NOBODY should tolerate nasty behavior for people. I dont know the female equivalent of simp for women, but know many women love to shitty guys excuses for their nasty behavior.

So, while agree withsomethings, I wouldn't say women in USA are spoiled, we just aren't living in a society where we have to submit to anyone.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

When a woman asks me "do these pants make my butt look big?" she's going to get an honest answer, which may be "hell yes! You shouldn't leave the house in those pants."

If a woman is a cheater, I'm not letting her off the hook so I can maybe get her in bed. I'm just not letting her in my life.

I do want a woman to treat me like a king and that means that I treat her like a queen, but. . . I treat her the way a king would treat his queen, not the way a lowly serf would treat the queen.

MzAsh · Answer

Meh. Just don’t be an asshole because I’ll have to stamp you out. But that goes for anyone.

bakingperfectionist · Answer

I don't know in what stretch of the imagination lying/being fake to women in order to have sex with them is 'spoiling' them, but okay. Many men I have met (with the exception of some, including my boyfriend) lie, cheat and act like disgusting horny teenagers well into adulthood and women allow it/keep forgiving them. So one could make the argument that men are in fact the spoiled ones. My point is; I agree with your final statement. No one as a whole is more spoiled. There are bad people and good people everywhere.

Texaskid1 · Answer

Ufff... very much so.

I say this with confidence because I have lived overseas and I have also lived in the several states in the US. My general impression of the American women I have met is that they tend to be spoiled to a large degree and just difficult - especially white middle class women. I have mingled with women from Mexico, Spain , China, Taiwan, Philippines, Venezuela, Austria, amongst other places. One thing I always noticed about American women is that they immediately start asking about your finances ; like you are applying for a bank. They also play a lot of mind games. The foreign women , especially the European women were just nicer over all and actually asked me questions about me (my interests , hobbies etc). This is something that I have not seen in any of the American women I have met. French and Spanish women in particular had a penchant for discussing politics and social issues. The experience is very different once you mingle with other cultures.

Unit1 · Answer

It's *not* *just* women in America! The trick  is that if we actually try and make them women accountable, * some of them*  take personal offense and resort to ad hominem such as telling us, that we are " 1/10 ugly losers " or " cheapskates " if we suggest to split the bill or their personal favorite " no girl wants u " or that we can't get laid. Classic! But if you are a rich guy like Tekashi69, then these same women would be twerking and showing boobs for money and/or fame.

blutwolfe · Answer

ya lmao girls be showing me their inboxes, basically where guys think being nice is a redeeming quality and not just manners

I like how you worded it to basically just be honest, cause some guys take this the wrong way and just act like bitter or mean to women for no reason

888theGreat · Answer

Yep, that is why I am leaning towards Asian women. They look younger than their age. They also leave final decision to the man. They have their own life and make decisions , but they honor the male's decision more. They want to wash dishes, cook, clean house as love towards the male. American women are more about them , more 51% her and 49% him. Career is more important than the relationship with male. Other words if a promotion means moving to another state , it is bye bye to the male. 5 years or 10 years together , bye bye.

FreyaRed · Answer

You invite me again into a discussion about US society. 🤨
I have no clue about American society.
I never had the feel being treated differently than men.
In regard of SIMPs. Those guys have a deep need to be someone special, it's opposite counterpart of girls who fall in pathological lying to gain attention of any kind. Nevertheless this behavior isn't that present in real world than it occurs in social media. I don't think this is in US much different.

MissRomantic · Answer

It also depends on a woman's upbringing too. Maybe some women act spoiled and entitled because their parents could never say no to them or they grew up being arrogant because they could get away with a lot because of their beauty, so they expect that guys would bend over backwards to please her.

Spiffy_and_Tails · Answer

No, I don't think majority of women are pampered by men in their general vicinity who want to sleep with them.

If you want to say women are favored in legal systems or in the education system, I'd have a harder time disagreeing.

But I disagree with this.

jshm2 · Answer

No. that's like saying Blacks are "entitled" in American society. You are taking a small portion and generalising from it.

In America, a woman is paid less than a man, for doing the same work. In America, a woman is twice as likely than a man, to be a victim of crime. Women are anything but equal in American society.

It's simply a case of glossy magazines and crass Hollywood movies have you putting all women on a pedestal.

DudeDiligence · Answer

Women are certainly far more spoiled and pampered in American society than most of them realize, but it's not the fault of most men. It's the fault of the corrosive influence of the liberal forces that benefit from perpetuating the victim mentality of women and other groups, and the dishonesty and/or naivete of the women who allow it to persist without standing up against it.

apollo3000 · Answer

Not all, no. The internet seems to be a very teenage ground though - and many women from god knows where, typing in English, do try to present the real life as being the way they'd want it to be (iPhone Disney princesses with zero responsibility and entitled to full time pampering by anyone they wish it from, or all of humanity altogether).
You won't find that in real life though, it's a silly lobby that gets taken too seriously.

jkm1864 · Answer

Yes in a way but I've learned to Embrace the Pain hahaha.

Billlewis · Answer

It's impossible for a woman to receive too much attention, money or submission from any guy, in my opinion.

Bandit74 · Answer

Yeah probably, at least relative to how the average guy is treated. That being said just calling the guys who put them on a pedestal simps or telling them to stop isn't going to change anything.

CoolGuyJoe · Answer

Every society from every era had well rounded people and oddballs. It's not worth focusing on. Just get on with your life living the way you want.

Ellie-V · Answer

Gimme alla yours

sdtabot · Answer

I thought they compliment them because they are really pretty in their eyes. So, you're telling me that they don't really find them pretty?

DCooper · Answer

Amen, Lenny!

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