Do you agree with AOC that US Immigration Laws shouldn't apply to Latinos because they're Descendants of Natives and this is their land?

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Anonymous · Accepted Answer

AOC is about the stupidest person in the history of the world. She completely useless and should not be in a position of any power at all, except the power to pour my drink.

Agape93 · Accepted Answer

Lmao pretty sure Latinos aren’t native Americans. Plus if we counted them, and everyone else with native ancestry, almost anyone could technically claim it.

lightbulb27 · Answer

"human mobility is a right". Hey, I hear she has some ice cream in her fridge, at least I know Nancy Pelosi does. Lets go get some. Don't worry about the door and lock on her house, we'll ignore that. The people responsible for guarding that persons possessions (police in this case, INS in case of immigrations)... well they can just shut up, we have rights to that ice cream, it's a finders keepers world for AOC.

Latino people... would be descendants of Africans like everyone else. They would have crossed ice bridges to get to the "Americas" (forgive the offensive non native name). And thus, they have every right to go to any continent they choose. Frankly, every human has a right to go wherever they want. There is no need for countries, we'll have a one world free flowing system. Um... not sure who will be in power of that... maybe the IMF?

This goes back to their model of the world... that there is one world government.
Why doesn't she go down to these Latino countries and fix them rather than complain about letting people into this one? Oh yea... because she doesn't know how. It's good she cares about these people. They are VERY poor people and I care about them as well. Lets work together to fix their corrupt governments, economies and societies so they can have better wealth and success and don't need to come to the USA. This may be very difficult because USA is horifically corrupt with our printing press. And that... is the root of the problem... we are stealing from all other countries by way of our magical printing press. Don't worry AOC, listen to investent people...$ is going to emerging markets. Your people will receive those resources, if the governments there don't steal it from them.

I need stats on how many people die in these detention centers, or the amount of abuse. I also need stats on how many people die, are kidnapped, murdered on their way to the border. From what I recall, people were dying in the deserts back in the Clinton admin... litterly dying of thirst.

front2back · Answer

>Latinos called natives and given keys to walk into the United States with free reign
>Over 10 million Latinos walk across the border in the first year alone
>Latino wave descends into inner cities all across the US.
>Start taking over all of the working-class jobs because they're willing to earn 25% less for the same work
>All currently working-class people, especially black Americans, pushed out of work
>Entire Latino communities start popping un in traditionally Asain or Black communities
>States like California give these people free housing, healthcare, and school for simply existing
>California literally goes bankrupt now Trillions in debt
>Black Americans start attacking latinos due to the power struggle
>Chicanos and Cartel members start attacking any black people they see even out in the streets
>Police powerless to do anything
>Me cracking a cold one watching 40 million new Latino migrants allowed to descend into the country unopposed started a race war amongst minorities.

Anonymous · Answer

I would like to point out to people that this country treats Hispanic people terribly. Also, these are not violent people. They live in equal rates of poverty compared to black people. However, stats/data show that black people are more violent (13/50). This violence can be attributed to genetics (75%) or environment (25%). Meanwhile, We lock Mexican women and children in cages. Sex trafficked thousands. One year ago, a white supremacist shot 60 and killed 23 Hispanics at a local Walmart. It was Hispanic targeted. It's also been proven that these immigrants are some of the most thankful ones to be here (they are less likely to commit crimes compared to citizens). They are leaving a country where corruption and poverty roam and are very thankful to be here. If black people received half of the treatment Hispanics do, we would be bombed. We do not put black people in cages. We do not discriminate against them (ICE). Etc.

hellionthesagereborn · Answer

Thats stupid. No, latino's were not native to this land. They did have texas and some other areas but they freely gave up those lands to the US settlers in hopes that they would act like a meat shield against the comache who would otherwise brutalize them and raid them (in fact this is why we had the texas rangers. They were specifically trained to fight comache and native americans because they were so vicious and brutal. Once they were conquered mexico then decided they want that land back after all the americans managed to fight off the natives and civilize the area. This is what lead to the mexican American war). Also if we get technical it wasn' even their land because they took that land from other groups, and the aztecs enslaved their neighbors and took it over from those who came before them. So its a stupid argument.

Ozanne · Answer

What happened to the theory of the ice bridge over the Bering Sea and how Native Americans are actually descendants of the Asians? I hadn't heard of her recent claims, so I'd have to look into it, but if it's true, someone needs to do their homework on human migration, starting in Africa, and then going from there.

She'll especially love the part how the Asians began migrating east, eventually becoming the Native Americans who were in North and South America first -- who by the way didn't go on to birth Latinos, much to her disappointment -- and that the Norse were the next to find North America about 14,000 years after the Native Americans did, roughly four years before the Italians.

Not_Average · Answer

Everything that comes out of her mouth is an absolute joke lol. I’ve tried to give her so many chances because I can appreciate passion, but my god this woman is stupid. She’s very good at approaching issues at a surface level in a way that appeals to democrats, but there is absolutely NO depth.

Open the borders! What about crime that this brings in? Tax the rich! What about when the businesses leave with their jobs because there’s no incentive to be there? Massive stimulus checks! What about the depreciation of the US dollar?

When you try to dig past that, she’ll attack you with morality and a lot of fluff. Her emotional maturity and level of intellect is almost embarrassing for our country.

Her Twitter is also straight up hateful. She literally hates republicans, white people, and police officers... yet claims to be a beacon of unity. So to answer your question, no. I just ignore her and treat her as a funny meme at this point.

Screenwriter · Answer

This is an odd statement. Latinos are not necessarily descendents of Native Americans.
I have Latin blood and Indian blood, but it's Caribbean Indian. It's Puerto Rican Taino Indian and the Tainos didn't inhabit land in the United States.
This would be true of other Latinos. Some have no Native North American blood and are strictly Hispanic.
I don't know what percentage of Latins have South American, Central American or Mexican American Native blood. It's not all.
You'd have to provide a DNA test to prove where your Native American heritage was from.
But the RATIONAL point would be where did the person with Native American heritage grow up and where was that person born. If that person was born and raised in a foreign country, their long ago Native heritage doesn't count to establish current residency/land ownership.
Unless someone is a current member of a recognized tribe I don't think this counts for anything.

ShadezMcgee · Answer

I do not agree with that one second. Anything that comes out of her mouth stems from passion and forgoes logic.

If you are a resident of another country and wish to immigrate to America, there is a process for it. You go through the port of entry legally and have paperwork put in for a Visa which must be renewed as necessary until they are able to take and pass their citizenship test.

Latinos that have actually done it the legal way, along with other races, my mother included get livid beyond belief when illegal immigrants get in with no repercussions and disregard for law and processing. It is a slap in the face. You don't get grandfathered in because of that.

Lynx122 · Answer

Lol why is she talking about this instead of forcing a vote on Medicare for All? This is why I can't take any identity politics seriously it's always used to distract from the economic issues that are crippling and enslaving the poor and the middle class. It's the middle of a pandemic and she says it's not the time to do medicare for all now.

If people had medicare for all then they wouldn't have to depend on their employers for healthcare which means they could actually do things like strike and ask for better wages but rich people don't like that at all. They like desperate employees with debt and no other options so they have to stay in a job they don't like and are underpaid just in case they might get sick.

Im not saying things like police brutality are not issues but they get used so often when it's politically convenient that I just can't trust it anymore.

Anonymous · Answer

They're descended from Latin American tribes. Maybe not all of them, but most of them. But even if they're descended, it doesn't matter, because we have a country now. And just because your great, great, great, great grandfather was a Native that doesn't entitle you to special treatment. Your great, great, great, great grandfather had his land "stolen", not YOU! Be mad at HIM for not having better weapons.

Also, pretty much every piece of territory on earth was conquered by someone else, so this rule should apply everywhere than. Should the Russians get free citizenship to places they lost in WWII. It doesn't work that way.

The Incas conquered other tribes, the Spanish conquered the Incas. That's how the world works. They should have fought harder.

Texaskid1 · Answer

AOC needs to put the bong down.

I saw the video. The US has a right to protect it's borders just like any other country on Earth. As for Latinos being descended from Natives peoples this is - in may cases - technically correct yet it is a weak argument as far as I am concerned. Latin American countries have been nation states for several hundred years already. This means that they already have a system of laws in place to guide their respective societies. They also have immigration laws - from Mexico all the way down to Chile and Argentina. That some of them have Native blood does not eliminate the need for immigration Laws amongst the American* countries.

*As in countries of the western hemisphere.

DeeDeeDeVour · Answer

No, I don't. Plus, I don't like her. She get bad vibes from & about her. I'm glad she lost her bid for a seat on the House's Energy and Commerce Committee.

JuliaStyles · Answer

At one time that may have applied when tons of people immigrated to the United States. But thing changed when coming here was limited on how many people could enter. Now people have to wait their turn to get in and have conditions apply. If Latinos immigrate legally it is not a problem. Coming over illegally is.

Mishan97 · Answer

I get what she’s saying, because I mean it is true Texas, California, New Mexico these all used to be a part of Mexico. That land is native to those Hispanic people who had been living there for longer than it’s been a part of the U. S. so it is unfair that now they are the ones being called the “outsiders” or the “intruders”. I do think we need a more compassionate approach to immigration and immigration reform. I completely disagree with Trumps approach and I also even disagree with how Obama handled the issue. But I don’t think Hispanic people should be automatically given citizenship status like how AOC is saying. I think there should be some process in place that leads to a path to citizenship.

hahahmm · Answer

For the sake of argument let's say that 100% of latinos are members of some native tribe. A tribe has ancestral lands and/or reservation. Wherever country that is locate in determines the national citizenship of the tribal member. So if your tribal homeland is in Mexico you're a citizen of Mexico not the U. S. If your tribal land happens to be in New Mexico then sure, you would be a U. S. citizen. Point is it's not automatic that you'd be a U. S. citizen just because you're from a tribe from some random place in the Americas. That's just now how existing tribal stuff works.

But if you are a native you could move freely between countries if the tribal land is in both countries.

Stoner710 · Answer

So let me say this, if we completely got rid of welfare and food stamp no disability no mothers getting a pay check for being a single mother. I would be fine with more porous borders because my tax dollars aren’t going to pay for them to live in the United States, As long as we have welfare I don’t believe we should be excepting people crossing the border illegally.

that being said I don’t like the idea of illegal immigrants coming into the country because people will get killed not all the illegal emigrants are murderers but it is nice to be able to vet the people coming into the country rather then not knowing if a murder or a sex trafficker just came into the country. But I’ll compromise you completely get rid of welfare and I’ll allow illegal immigrants to come into the country

lanadelrey25 · Answer

She's a joke.

AlexanderAnttila · Answer

That's wholly incorrect to begin with. And you can't build immigration laws on "one rule for them and another for them", no group of people can receive special treatment when immigrating for any reason. The mad nonsense this woman spews never seizes to amaze. An embarrassment to the office.

Smoothing · Answer

I think your question is very misleading. It doesn't reflect what Ocazio Reese Cortez was saying in the video.

I watched the whole video from beginning to end and not once does she say or imply that immigration laws should not apply to Latino people.

About the Latinos being descendants of Native Americans, that is actually true. There is no group of people in America that has more native blood running through their veins than Latinos.

Any way my only issue here is the questioning. I think it is very important not to take what a person has said out of context which is exactly what this question did.

CarneConChile · Answer

Well Mexicans are generally part Native American and part European. In which way does their heritage apply to the present? blood or blood + if they maintain tribal affiliation? If they and their family have denied that part of their past, maybe it's not so relevant. And for the Mexicans already here and citizens.. Are you going to give them the same rights as Native Americans even though they lost the connection to the tribe? If so hit me up with that free tuition!
I can't say whether or not they have a right to it. As these things are very ambiguous.

Gabboo · Answer

PMAO, you are taking advice from a dumb bitch who doesn't even know the term ILLEGAL. She doesn't even know what a garbage disposal is, and she throws tantrums over a waitress job. This is why no one takes any democrat seriously

Anonymous · Answer

Of course not, thats insane.

I dont know if the US is the same but in the UK having family in the country makes it easier for you to get into the country which would resolve some? most? all? issues along these lines.

But no, the iron price has been paid for the borders of countries, you dont just get to cross them because you are snow flake shaped and have a boo boo on your feelings.

ronaldo75 · Answer

AOC is one of the dumbest fucking politicians every to reach congress... My lord.

That's one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever heard in my life. So then what, now all a Muslims or European has to do is go to Mexico, apply for a Mexican citizenship then they can come into the US legally? The only way to combat that is to have race-based immigration policy where only Native Hispanics get to come into the country. What if a Black Afro-Latino from Brazil wants to come into the US? They're not genetically latino but they are Brazil, do we block them?

RationalMale · Answer

Actually archeologists now believe the first Americans were Europeans who traveled across the ocean during the ice age, and were killed off later by immigrants from asia over the bering strait.

Meaning, Europeans actually have legit claim to America.

disgustingweebtrash · Answer

Why are latinos considered natives of America? They are from Spain and Portugal.

This is concerning that it's allowed for AOC to push this narrative so freely and no one is """debunking""" it even though it's basic knowledge that Hispanics are "colonisers" also.

Ad_Quid_Orator · Answer

Yeah, that's a stupid hyperbole. She should talk about how much our economy depends on migrant labor and about how the reason that so many people are coming here is because the CIA activities fucked up their countries (that's why they're such "shitholes").

purplepoppy · Answer

Logically it was their land but it isn't now. They were conquered fair and square.

Sessy · Answer

The bigger picture of her argument is that should the US be providing a path to citizenship to immigrants (Latinos and all other races) and protecting DACA/Dreamer students. Although she has a weak argument by saying "We are standing on Native land and Latino people are descendants of Native people and we can not be told and criminalized...", I do believe that immigrants should have a path to citizenship. I think it should be merit based.

Avicenna · Answer

That‘s the sort of pretzel logic employed by the crazies that want to eliminate US borders. It’s deranged.  The more interesting question, however, is why she wants open borders.

Dweezil · Answer

Hate to inform you that the term "Latino " implies a person has Spanish blood in him.

So should the immigration law apply based on the percentage of lantin blood his has?

And don't forget. "Native" American isn't an accurate description of those who were here before the evil white man crossed the pond. Those people migrated from Asia thousands of years before

007kingifrit · Answer

that's ridiculously stupid, they weren't indians and its not their land. land cannot be owned by sovereign entities, only won or lost.

its also funny she is just parroting talking points of the rich, she is so easily influenced by the masters of wallstreet. immigration is a tool to lower our wages

locutus9999 · Answer

I am latin and my answer is No... that happens when you give power to a waitress... americans please next time look for people with good degrees, and some knoledge... cause this lady... I do not know wich problem did she have in the restaurant were she was waitress, but she found cauliflower quite racist... probably cause is racist thowards broccoli.

BeenThereLovedIt · Answer

Your title paints a narrative different than what's in the video. She's talking mostly about DACA rights and ICE violating human rights, and her statements about mobility are spoken from the context of those fleeing violence - the mobility statement came at the end of the part about children in cages. . context.

Kaneki05 · Answer

Immigration is the international movement of people to a destination country of which they are not natives or where they do not possess citizenship in order to settle as permanent residents or naturalized citizens.
If we are going by this which is what comes up when you search immigration she is correct if there natives.

So looks like i agree unless there is something i missed?

JDavid25 · Answer

No, that's not how citizenship works.. Most of them were not in the land when America was made a nation.. Plus most Latinos are not originally from the lands of America, only a few.. Some people actually believe that AOC is smart.. 😂😂😂..

TadCurious · Answer

Well no surprise but this is just one more of a very long string of things that Sandy Cortez is batshit crazy about. It's really disheartening to know there's a congressional district in the United States of America that would elect this person.

Soteris · Answer

While it is probably misrepresenting what she said, its not an insane position. If you have sufficiently strong blood ties to a certain region/country you can more often than not request to return to that country with little fuss. People with Irish decent is a prime example of this.

Anonymous · Answer

US Immigration Laws should be applied irrespective of who is applying to enter the country, If Latino's can prove they have a right to enter then all's well, but the should not have automatic access because AOC thinks they are descendants of indigenous peoples.

Imuglyandiknowit · Answer

not all latinos have native ancestry and even if they do have native ancestry, it usually doesn’t include the natives of america but from other places in the new world. .

QuietRunner · Answer

Aren't Latinos also descendants of Native American killing, Spanish colonizers that robbed two-thirds of North and South America of precious metals?

Don't tell me that about that difference between Hispanic and Latino, because if you do I'll ask you about Simon Bolivar real treatment of pardos.

The world is full of history that can be used to advance all kind of agendas. Pick your own agenda and advance it with good cause.

VanillaSalt · Answer

Immigration laws have less than nothing to do with race and everything to do with keeping threats out.

Celtero · Answer

I mean... I doubt people in south america have one drop of northern native American blood. And while we're at it, I suppose according to her I'm a Swedish and Danish citizen.

Bat-Perv · Answer

aren't Latinos descendants of of the spainish and Portuguese colonists. Also central and South America are not North America

MannMitAntworten · Answer

By that logic we would have to allow anyone with Mongolian ancestry which is what most Latinos are descendant from.

It baffles the mind that he progressive movement believes her to be an intellectual.

cloud9vortex1234 · Answer

No, I don't. That's a dumb statement. They still had to come from across the border. AOC is the best gift the Republicans could ask for. They should just let her keep talking and they should continue to get more votes.

wingattebaby16 · Answer

if you are here illegally, whether you are latino, black, indian, chinese, etc., you are still breaking the law by Trespassing.

ChiTown33 · Answer

🤣🤣🤣 That's what i like about AOC always good for a laugh. I'll tell you what, i'll support that for any LIVING latino that's native to this land. Fair nuff?

WhiteGlaze · Answer

Tbh tho I think just letting them in isn't the worst solution to this whole immigration deal. Sure not legally but if it were legal how does that hurt us? The single chances of bad people coming in who get in on their own anyway? I feel like the bad guys are winning either way with this. So wtf

Anonymous · Answer

This is a country , your race , ethnicity , color shouldn't matter.

If you are not born in this country in the PRESENT TIMELINE or don't have a valid document of citizenship , you are NOT ALLOWED

How hard is that to understand?

Telekinetic-Potato · Answer

I mean, at that point wouldn't anyone be allowed to go anywhere?

Jamie05rhs · Answer

Lol. She's so ignorant. No; most of them are not. Only certain tribes in the Southwest would qualify for that rule. The rest are from "farther."

MysteriousDarkness · Answer

Seems like she thinks those who if are descendants of Native Americans that do not live in America should be able to freely come here and not have to abide by the immigration laws.

Snakeyes7 · Answer

You'd think this pandemic would have given anyone who was for any sort of open borders an inkling of why that would be a horrible idea but I guess not.

NYCQuestions1976 · Answer

A grotesquely stupid "idea" from a grotesquely stupid person. She has a bowl of cereal in her head.

GoodGuyBreakingBad · Answer

Nope she's wrong in so many ways, I didn't expect her to be re-elected

BeMuse · Answer

I think we should exile her to the Mariana Islands and make her work as a topless bartender.

cth96190 · Answer

I would, however, support sending this Communist dullard back to the reservation and locking the gate behind her.

msc545 · Answer

I don't agree with her that immigration laws should not apply to Latinos, but I do agree with her assertions that ICE is a violator of human rights, should not receive additional money, and should be dissolved. Technically, the only legal citizens of the US are Native Americans. Everyone else is an illegal immigrant.

loveslongnails · Answer

No, that's nonsense. If you apply THAT logic, you would be a citizen of every country in both your parents' blood lines !

Anonymous · Answer

Though Latin Americans and natives helped form America, The government that is America is completely independent of illegal immigrants from surrounding countries. That is purely illogical. We have our Native Americans in America.

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