All lives do matter though, including the lives of those still in the womb, so maybe we should say that, "they matter too, because they are the only ones that don't matter now". Also, they are killed at something like 20 times the rate at which black men are killed, so... you were saying?
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Fun Fact: 99% of black people killed each year, are killed by other black people. A white person is 12 X more likely to be a victim of a serious crime, (rape, assault , murder etc) committed by a black person than vise versa.
I take it reading spreadsheets isn't your strong suit?
The 7.7 million figure is the total number of people who have been arrested for every crime imaginable. So that includes everything from murder/rape suspects to people who were arrested for loitering and violating liquor laws.
The graph you posted is specifically talking about violent crimes, which means you have to scroll down to the violent crime column. Once you get there, you'll see that in 2018, there were only 392,562 cases of violent crimes (that includes both interracial and intraracial offenses).
So now here's my question. "How in the blue hell did interracial violent crime incidents in 2018 exceed 1.3 million (according to your graph), when the total number of violent crimes that year was 392,562?
Saying all lifes matter isn't racist it's self it just tells me that they don't agree with or like the black lives matter movement which is basically saying you think that poilce should just kill black people whenever
black men are killed at 3x higher rate than white, cause they do 3x the violent crimes.
it's not like we disregard the lives of the black. black people on average are more poor, more likely to be single parent and more likely to be criminal, which is obvious in the statistics. that doesn't mean that someone thinks their life doesn't matter. assuming that is racist.
Not to stir the pot, but if someone says "all lives matter" is racist then they don't believe that all lives really matter and therefore believe that there are some races that matter more than others. So, ironically, saying "all lives matter" is racist is actually racist itself. That being said, the people who hide behind the "all lives matter" just don't want to acknowledge the systemic racism that exists in everyday life towards people of colour.
Saying that All Lives Matter in itself isn't racist, so I can see where some people using the line are coming from. However, it's the fact that it's used in response to Black Lives Matter that's racist.
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I think the main group that is discriminated against and treated unfairly in the United States today is not black people, but white people, especially white men. So, I think that movements are needed to protect the rights of white people. As for blacks, the only way for them to change their position in society for the better is to realize that the cause of their problems is not "systemic racism" or "white privileges", but their own behavior and way of life. And most of all, they need to free themselves from the tutelage of the far-left and anti-American Democratic Party, which they believe "cares" for them, when in fact it takes advantage of their problems of power and personal gain, causing division and hatred between people. Blacks must solve the problems in their community on their own. They need to stop believing they are victims and look more closely at themselves, with the necessary dose of self-criticism.
Without the context it is an absolute truism that all lives matter. However, all lives matter as a response to black lives matter is a denial of race-based injustice and thus supporting the racist/supremacist social systems that maintain it.
there is no evidence of race based injustice and there are no systems maintaining your fantasy. inequality is not proof of discrimmination. different races deserve different outcomes because they behave differently
"However, all lives matter as a response to black lives matter is a denial of race-based injustice and thus supporting the racist/supremacist social systems that maintain it."
in other words "anybody who disagrees with us is racist!"
That's obvious. If black lives don't matter then all lives by default don't matter because of the exclusion of black lives mattering. Swap black lives with white lives, yellow lives, brown lives, blue lives, green lives etc and the statement retains its fundamental meaning.
Saying all lives matter shouldn't be considered racist, the fact that's an issue is really odd. Both sayings are common sense to me (although I got a bone to pick with BLM as an organization) so maybe I don't see issues.
it's racist in response to blm because it started off as white people trying to get more support they don't need even though they don't typically experience racism
When you factor in things like critical race theory and how "peaceful" (or lack thereof) the protests have been, its obvious that BLM clearly doesn't believe that all lives matter. Thats why people are saying this. They believe that rioting will only hurt their cause by creating negative sentiment.
Now, if they said white lives matter, that's an entirely different story but I don't see a whole lot of people saying that.
You know what's funny? All Lives Matter wasn't even a thing until after Black Lives Matter. It became a thing as a response to the uppity n*****s saying "Hey our lives do matter." That was a threat to your nice White Privilege wasn't it?
Hell yes that is racist and getting triggered because athletes take the knee is racist too.
Not sure saying all lives matter is racist. The reason I don't support the BLM movement is because it only tells part of the story. It focuses on the black men killed by whites/cops, but not the ones killed by other black men or by other minorities. On top of that, the public face of the movement has been hijacked by criminals.
The facts are that black people are not killed by police at a higher rate than white people. As a percentage of the population that interacts with police,, whites are killed more. Police brutality is something that affects all races - so "all lives matter".
Black people kill white people at a much higher rate than white people kill black people. So if that's the other issue you have, you're wrong on that as well.
If white women say that "all lives won't matter until black lives matter," does it mean that their white girls' lives won't also matter until black lives matter and we're free to hurt and abuse them a little' bit? 😏
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It’s not racist. It is just out of context and missing the point. But it also points out why the slogan is problematic. You can’t drive inclusivity with exclusionary statements.
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Racist just means you disagree with a liberal in 2021.
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All lives do matter though, including the lives of those still in the womb, so maybe we should say that, "they matter too, because they are the only ones that don't matter now". Also, they are killed at something like 20 times the rate at which black men are killed, so... you were saying?
Fun Fact: 99% of black people killed each year, are killed by other black people.
A white person is 12 X more likely to be a victim of a serious crime, (rape, assault , murder etc) committed by a black person than vise versa.
I'm pretty sure you already know this, but I'm still going to say it anyway.
That graph is incorrect. The prevalence of violent crimes throughout the country is not that high.
ucr.fbi.gov/.../table-43
@Starrk yes 7.7 million offenses in 2018 isn't that high.
I take it reading spreadsheets isn't your strong suit?
The 7.7 million figure is the total number of people who have been arrested for every crime imaginable. So that includes everything from murder/rape suspects to people who were arrested for loitering and violating liquor laws.
The graph you posted is specifically talking about violent crimes, which means you have to scroll down to the violent crime column. Once you get there, you'll see that in 2018, there were only 392,562 cases of violent crimes (that includes both interracial and intraracial offenses).
So now here's my question. "How in the blue hell did interracial violent crime incidents in 2018 exceed 1.3 million (according to your graph), when the total number of violent crimes that year was 392,562?
Now, do you understand what I'm talking about?
Saying all lifes matter isn't racist it's self it just tells me that they don't agree with or like the black lives matter movement which is basically saying you think that poilce should just kill black people whenever
Did you read my post
you need to stop asking people if they read your post @flexin-on-yuu, try to actually further the conversation
actually @someginger the narrative you are repeating is false. black people are actually under represented in police use of lethal force scholar.harvard.edu/.../empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force
black men are killed at 3x higher rate than white, cause they do 3x the violent crimes.
it's not like we disregard the lives of the black. black people on average are more poor, more likely to be single parent and more likely to be criminal, which is obvious in the statistics. that doesn't mean that someone thinks their life doesn't matter. assuming that is racist.
believe it or not, everyone has their own life and their own struggle. being entiteled to attention and sympathy is idiotic.
we all have the same rights. all our lifes matter. why do you shout "black lives" matter if all lifes already matter?
Not to stir the pot, but if someone says "all lives matter" is racist then they don't believe that all lives really matter and therefore believe that there are some races that matter more than others. So, ironically, saying "all lives matter" is racist is actually racist itself. That being said, the people who hide behind the "all lives matter" just don't want to acknowledge the systemic racism that exists in everyday life towards people of colour.
Saying that All Lives Matter in itself isn't racist, so I can see where some people using the line are coming from. However, it's the fact that it's used in response to Black Lives Matter that's racist.
I think the main group that is discriminated against and treated unfairly in the United States today is not black people, but white people, especially white men. So, I think that movements are needed to protect the rights of white people.
As for blacks, the only way for them to change their position in society for the better is to realize that the cause of their problems is not "systemic racism" or "white privileges", but their own behavior and way of life. And most of all, they need to free themselves from the tutelage of the far-left and anti-American Democratic Party, which they believe "cares" for them, when in fact it takes advantage of their problems of power and personal gain, causing division and hatred between people. Blacks must solve the problems in their community on their own. They need to stop believing they are victims and look more closely at themselves, with the necessary dose of self-criticism.
Without the context it is an absolute truism that all lives matter. However, all lives matter as a response to black lives matter is a denial of race-based injustice and thus supporting the racist/supremacist social systems that maintain it.
there is no evidence of race based injustice and there are no systems maintaining your fantasy. inequality is not proof of discrimmination. different races deserve different outcomes because they behave differently
"However, all lives matter as a response to black lives matter is a denial of race-based injustice and thus supporting the racist/supremacist social systems that maintain it."
in other words "anybody who disagrees with us is racist!"
@CasaNorba exactly lol. they really are bigots
Response to UPDATE: There already is "more black everything". It just isn't amplified
That's obvious. If black lives don't matter then all lives by default don't matter because of the exclusion of black lives mattering. Swap black lives with white lives, yellow lives, brown lives, blue lives, green lives etc and the statement retains its fundamental meaning.
Saying all lives matter shouldn't be considered racist, the fact that's an issue is really odd. Both sayings are common sense to me (although I got a bone to pick with BLM as an organization) so maybe I don't see issues.
it's racist in response to blm because it started off as white people trying to get more support they don't need even though they don't typically experience racism
@Remyhehim see I feel like folk need to calm down. It sounds like people reading too far into things.
When you factor in things like critical race theory and how "peaceful" (or lack thereof) the protests have been, its obvious that BLM clearly doesn't believe that all lives matter. Thats why people are saying this. They believe that rioting will only hurt their cause by creating negative sentiment.
Now, if they said white lives matter, that's an entirely different story but I don't see a whole lot of people saying that.
You know what's funny? All Lives Matter wasn't even a thing until after Black Lives Matter. It became a thing as a response to the uppity n*****s saying "Hey our lives do matter." That was a threat to your nice White Privilege wasn't it?
Hell yes that is racist and getting triggered because athletes take the knee is racist too.
Not sure saying all lives matter is racist. The reason I don't support the BLM movement is because it only tells part of the story. It focuses on the black men killed by whites/cops, but not the ones killed by other black men or by other minorities. On top of that, the public face of the movement has been hijacked by criminals.
I think a better slogan over both would be
"Black lives matter as well".
Not as catchy but whatever.
that still promulgates the totally false idea that police are unfair to black people
Okay. But I wasn't thinking of police when I wrote it.
everything is racist to you. I have to wonder what kind of psycho lives in a place he finds so disagreeable.
Come up with a fact or argument to me then
The facts are that black people are not killed by police at a higher rate than white people. As a percentage of the population that interacts with police,, whites are killed more. Police brutality is something that affects all races - so "all lives matter".
Black people kill white people at a much higher rate than white people kill black people. So if that's the other issue you have, you're wrong on that as well.
here is the study that proves joeldalton right scholar.harvard.edu/.../empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force
RE: the update. If you want more black owned businesses, get off your ass and start one.
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If white women say that "all lives won't matter until black lives matter," does it mean that their white girls' lives won't also matter until black lives matter and we're free to hurt and abuse them a little' bit? 😏
It’s not racist. It is just out of context and missing the point. But it also points out why the slogan is problematic. You can’t drive inclusivity with exclusionary statements.
Racist just means you disagree with a liberal in 2021.
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