This is a very tough question that even King Solomon would find difficult to answer. I am not convinced that anyone has come up with a good solution to this issue. There are a number of sports where gender isn't a question. One that comes to mind is car racing. Another is marksmanship. At the younger ages several sports include both including little league baseball. One could say that if testosterone is a reason to keep transgender women out of women's sports then a low testosterone level would be sufficient to let them play and that is often achieved through hormone suppression and taking female hormones. I'm inclined to believe that if puberty blockers were used since the typical onset age in boys and testosterone levels were kept low at a level similar to girls (yes girls have a small amount of testosterone in their body) then such transgender girls should be permitted in girls sports at the high school level. If that continues after high school then such girls should be permitted in college level, semi professional and professional competition up to and including the Olympics. But I would want to see some sort of medical certification. But I agree that without those kinds of medical processes then some transgender women have an unfair advantage.
Another solution might be to open up several levels or divisions of play where anyone can try out for any level and one is assigned the level their ability is appropriate for as they do in high school with varsity and junior varsity leagues. This would work for any amateur league play. It would also eliminate the idea that to qualify for play for a team one does not have to pass a sex test.
No as it’s more than simply testosterone and I do wish people would move off this as the big thing.
Around where I am while we have tall women, guys are on the whole taller.
bone density and muscle groups are also often different.
then you put in spatial awareness, hand eye coordination
there are very few sports that can be equally competed in.
it’s a bit like the para olympics, wrong classifications result in embarrassing wins.
there was a program on tv here the other day where with guy won by over a 100m
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/sep/04/concernts-paralympics-athletes-abuse-official-classification-uk-athletics-email
having the wrong selection process for trans or para, will ruin the competition’s and sport overall
I just learned this today but if a trans girl starts taking girl hormones before puberty she will not develop testosterone. In that case she should be allowed to play with his girls. Otherwise no.
No. The sports were separated for a reason, and just because you've had surgery doesn't erase your base genetics.
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I think yes. Women supported equality between all exes. They pushed for the same rights as men. Now their mad trans are seen as women… you don’t get to pick your laws and how their applied aka get your cake and eat it too. Look now. Women wanted to make more money. Now that they do they complain men don’t make enough to compare for dating and they complain about paying alimony. They push for inclusivity for women in the BOYS scouts but now that men want in women’s sports it’s unfair.
Sadly we’re probably in the same side of the isle. I don’t agree with trans women in women’s sports but ide rather see real equality then selective equality.
No, men should not be competing in women's sports under any circumstances no matter how anyone tries to twist biological reality.
It's basically like competing against an athlete who's been on roids from the time they hit puberty and only just now cycled off in order to pass a drug test.
Just because his/her test levels are normal for a woman now, that doesn't mean he /she doesn't have a massive advantage for growing up male when his/her competitors did not.
They can't.
In professional female sports, testosterone is a banned substance and it's levels are heavily monitored.
Trans women have levels exceeding even the highest allowed, on merit of the fact they are men in female suits.
The case a few years back of hermaphrodites being banned from the sport still stands.
Yes abso-fucking-lutely. Contrary to that uneducated claim in the question about trans women having testosterone in their bodies, they're not out to fucking get you. They just wanna play a fucking sport, let them. Why are trans men never brought up either? It's entirely hypocritical to only talk about one side of this discussion just to increase the hate and discrimination against trans women.
No they should play in their own transgender league.
With men to women and women to men.
I am being told that they are real women, no difference than cis gender women. If that is the position of most cis gender women and the government then my answer is yes. They can't be prevented from playing sports as women. The two go hand in hand. They are real women. End of story
I agree with you completely. Due to their make up, it is entirely unfair for women to have to compete against them, and I will go so far as to say it is dangerous for the women because the trans person is much stronger and likely possesses the same aggressive tendencies as men, since they are biological males.
Heather Swanson is a strong woman and should be allowed to play in all sports.
Trans girls take Anti Testosterone pills so it's a moot point. The research has been done by the Olympic commission and there are no differences in athletic performance between cis athletes and their trans counterparts, in both men and women.
No. Pretending to be a girl doesn't change your biological chromosome.
The sport and competition won't be fair as men have a physical advantage.
FUCK NO. I hate that I live in a timeline where ridiculous shit like this even has to be asked.
No. That's cheating. "Transgender women" are not real women but natural born men and frauds; they'd be dragging down women's sports, contaminating women's sports by their mere presence and participation in same.
fuck no!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URz-RYEOaig
I don't think the mentally ill should be allowed in sports at all tbh.
No, but I'm not the one who voted for this freak.
I honestly don't care.
It's sports, the categories are arbitrary. But if you going to de-sex a sport you might as well de-gender it.
Fuck no! That's retarded. Don't let the "woke" destroy us.
Men dressing up and calling themselves girls should not be allowed to compete in any competitive sporting event against women, end of.
Men shouldn't be playing sports with women on a competitive level.
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