Would you call it child abuse to have your child quote Hitler in a school board meeting?

[Still-alive]

I would think so... kind of an odd choice to quote him of all people at a school to push your anti-mask agenda wouldn't you say? It's clearly rehearsed and you can see later in the video when the father speaks that he's the one who had her do this. Your thoughts?

just skip to 3:50 where she says "To quote the famous politician Adolf Hitler, 'When diplomacy ends, war begins.'"

Yes that is a form of child abuse

No that isn't child abuse

I'm not sure

A total of 49 votes were cast: 18 girls and 31 guys. See detailed results

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Anti maskers/vaxxers always like to make BS comparisons like calling a vaccine passport a yellow badge but if you listen to the way they talk about those who are vulnerable, they have embraced the us versus them mentality. They've already fallen into the us versus them mentality and see those who are susceptible as untermensch. They think that the liberty of the vulnerable to leave their house without effectively having to play a round of Russian roulette is less important than their "freedom" to go outside without wearing a mask. For +1 year now they've been saying if the vulnerable are afraid (with 1/6th of the population having a 1/7 chance of dying of covid if you want a sense of scale). Well now if they're afraid to get vaccinated, the anti vaxxers can "just stay home".

[BrosephBrostar]

I dislike it when any child gets involved in the parents politics. It's like a vegan cat or a trans child, we all know who's calling the shots. I don't think the content behind it makes it any worse. It's obvious to me, at least, that using an objectively true statement and highlighting that it's Hitler who said it is a tactic of highlighting what is said, it's obviously not an endorsement of everything Hitler has done, or even an endorsement of that particular statement. It's merely highlighting a truth.

tl;dr Yes, but not because "muh Hitler"

[Still-alive]

no specifying hitler of all people is a common white nationalist tactic. like why him? why not anyone else? and why have your kid quote him? all that is very sus.

[BrosephBrostar]

So, when Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose were able to get tons of academic journals to publish Mein Kampf word for word substituting only "Jews" for "men", is that suddenly an endorsement for everything that the man has done, or is it only an endorsement of those specific quotes?

So, I'm going to ask you, is that sentence untrue? If not, why?

[Still-alive]

So you’re saying what this child is doing is NOT and endorsement of Hitler? Cause it surrre sounds like it.

Hitler should never be quoted in any context other than to warn people. Otherwise just quote people who aren't mass murdering dictators.

[BrosephBrostar]

That didn't answer the question. You're dodging.

[Still-alive]

Cause your questions are bogus bd got nothing to do with my topic

[BrosephBrostar]

Ah, I see. This isn't a discussion, it's soap-boxing. Carry on then.

[Still-alive]

carry on believing fathers who use their kids to push an agenda quoting hitler isn't abuse...

i guarantee we will see more of this in the future by the way. more white supremacy working its way into normal everyday life and the right wing being totally ok with it.

[purplepoppy]

She's not a child she's a teen and I suspect she knows exactly who she's quoting. I'll guarantee she has read her father's copy of mein kanpf from cover to cover more than once.

[Still-alive]

Nah I doubt it

[purplepoppy]

Most on the far right have either read Hitler's works or have been influenced either directly or indirectly by those who have.

[Still-alive]

Most kids dont or if they do they aren't so articulate like the girl is here. Nah im pretty sure her nazi dad put her up to it

[Gwenhwyfar]

Yes! That troubles me. I occasionally quote Stalin (“There are two kinds of untruths: lies and statistics”) but I’m an adult who can make up her own mind.

[Gwenhwyfar]

Thanks 😊

[Kaneki05]

Quoting hitler ain't a big deal tbh the lines that were said here, Like when "Diplomacy ends, war begins". Is actually just a true statement.

Of course i don't agree with what there saying. But the actual quotes themselves were smart ones because hitler wasn't a dumb guy.

Child abuse? well let's be honest what Anti-mask don't abuse there child to the same way of thinking rather than letting them make up there own mind.

[Still-alive]

I would never quote hitler unless i want to warn people of something.

[Kaneki05]

You see people will say it's Un Pc or something to quote hitler.
But in reality it don't matter who you quote longs if your quote isn't bad within it's self.

And some smart evil people have said some really good quotes.

[Still-alive]

Usually people that quote him have an agenda. The dad here clearly does

[Snakeyes7]

I don't know what she said but I'd say it depends on the quote. I'd imagine some people might use his quotes to get a good idea of how to not let something like what he did happen again.

Didn't he say something about telling a lie enough times and people will eventually believe it?

[Still-alive]

Yes. And if you watch the video towards the end where he soeaks you can clearly see he has put her up to do this

[exitseven]

It is not child abuse but more and more school districts have been teaching critical race theory and other liberal agendas. Parents need to be made aware of this kind of brainwashing of our kids and vote out any school board members that go along with it.

[goaded]

I think she's very brave to stand up there, it's not her fault she's been brainwashed. (I notice everyone was wearing a mask.) I wondered whether she knew who she was quoting, until the end.

Why the father thinks a democratically elected school board taking advice from the CDC is anything like a competing nation state, or that he can go to war with them, God only knows.

[OddBeMe]

Not sure. I like that the girl in the video felt confident enough to speak her mind- even if wrong. But Hitler is go-to fodder for anyone wanting attention. I doubt they’re Hitler lovers. They’re covidiots teaching their children to be covidiots. That may be the real abuse.

Also there’s no medical justification for not wearing masks. That’s total bullshit.

[420Rachel]

This is ridiculous. I hate wearing a mask as much as the next guy but these people are taking it to a whole new level. O_o Like do you want your kid to catch Covid?

[EssenceOfLight]

Knowledge is the key. Knowing a quote of national socialists isn't something someone should shame for. It's different with using it. However there are tons of quotes of Rosa Luxembourg, Marx and Engels which are politically correct but don't differ that much of those of Adolf of Goebbels.

[Still-alive]

Incorrect

[EssenceOfLight]

You have the freedom to have your own opinion. However you could take a minute effort and explain what is "incorrect". As alternative we start to answer our questions with single adjectives.

[RolandCuthbert]

What else can you say?

These dudes think that a mask mandate by a school, business, or institution is taking away their rights.

As this point, they are off the reservation.

[Cherry234]

Yeah that's definitely child abuse. Those anti-mask and anti-vax people... smh. Are they anti everything? lol

[Shamiah02]

I don't get involved in these crazy white people's life.

[DaveToo]

It's not child abuse. It's a fascist parent teaching their child to use a dictator's musings to justify his and her refusal to wear a fucking mask.

[loves2learn]

Not child abuse but really poor parenting choices.

[Still-alive]

I disagree i think its clear child abuse to have a child do this

[loves2learn]

Racism starts at the dinner table. But to my knowledge he did not hit her or molest her. I believe it is sad and wrong. But not child abuse.

[Still-alive]

Agree to disagree

[loves2learn]

Okie dokie :)

[beefy40]

no, it sounds like anyone could have made up that quote.

[Still-alive]

But she specifically calls out hitler just before saying it…

[Rachelspiks]

Still-alive - Actually, no, she doesn't. Hitler isn't mentioned by her. Did we watch the same clip?

[Still-alive]

@Rachelspiks lol she literally does @3:50 i even quoted her saying it in the description.

Clearly we didn't or you would have seen that part…

[Rachelspiks]

I'll listen to it again. 3:50

[Rachelspiks]

Ah yes, she does. How did I miss that? I must be going deaf (or something).

[siseñor]

someone get that kid a new family, i swear these anti-everything people b trolling

[karaspara]

Controversial choice but not child abuse

[Still-alive]

Why isn't this child abuse?

[karaspara]

Why is it?

[Still-alive]

because its forcing your child to quote a hateful dictator to suit your agenda. sounds abusive to me. especially when the kid grows up and figures that out it might do some mental damage we aren't aware of

[karaspara]

Only because it's Hitler though you have no idea what the child thinks

[Still-alive]

i have an idea based on what the father was saying right after her.

[karaspara]

The only person i've ever met that read mein kampf was a black Zimbabwean and he agreed with it

[Still-alive]

fantastic... anecdotes don't mean much in the long run however...

[karaspara]

No I don't agree with it but it's not child abuse just because you disagree with it

[Still-alive]

its child abuse because the father is having her push is agenda. he's using her. you don't see that?

[karaspara]

I don't see that no you have no idea what she feels and if she is questioning it all good

[Still-alive]

welp this is going in circles. you can clearly see he has influenced her based on how he's talking later in the video...

but i guess you just can't see that

[karaspara]

Of course he has influenced herv what's your point? If he had influenced her to agree with you would that be child abuse? Get out and behave yourself

[Still-alive]

thats using her to fit his agenda... thats child abuse lol.

its like telling a child to go out and spread a pro-cigarette message. they know kids can be used to garner sympathy from people. its a clear tactic by a white nationalist dad pushing an agenda.

its child abuse.

[Jayplays900]

Forced to? Then yes

If not, then no. But still concerning.

[t-8900]

Well that was uncomfortable to watch 😅

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Yes, It is a sign of child abuse

[ChiPaPa]

Yikes! That poor child.

[Jerre]

More stupidity than abuse.

[dustybiker]

Wow… just.. wow.