Should men ever have a say in a woman's reproductive healthcare choices when women have no say in theirs?

Question

Yes, this was inspired by the numerous posts about Roe v Wade today, but this isn't specifically on whether or not you think abortion should be legal or not. This is strictly about whether men should even get a say about what a woman chooses to do with her own body when they are not the ones forced to give up their body's health to carry a child.

Men at one time even had a say on whether women could have their tubes tied, but despite rumors of spousal approval being needed for a vasectomy, it wasn't true the other way around.

And just in case one of you brings this up, no this doesn't count if she has a male primary health care provider.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Men absolutely should not have a say in the reproductive choices of women. Allow me to make two arguments.

First, vaginas and penises are called reproductive organs. That’s what they’re there for. They’re not toys for your entertainment pleasure, nor are they vital to your physical sustenance. Every time you choose to have heterosexual intercourse using your reproductive organs, you do so with the knowledge that pregnancy is a potential outcome. In fact, pregnancy is the primary. purpose of those organs. If we choose to proceed despite the risks, we can and often do mitigate the risks through physical and chemical barriers (i. e., birth control devices). Both the man and the woman accept the risks and choose the barriers. They are choices. Deciding to proceed is also a choice. With the exception of rape, no man makes those choices for the women. At that point a mutual decision is made; the risk is taken. If pregnancy results, it is an outcome that the woman knew was possible and accepted as a risk. Pregnancy includes carrying a child in your body until birth. Again, a known risk. No man forced the woman to make the choice. However, if you propose that a woman has a choice after the pregnancy has occurred, then you are suggesting termination of the pregnancy (the risk) after the risk was accepted. It’s also the willful termination of a human life. Morally, that’s not a choice. That standard is true for a woman or a man.

As an analogy, think about boarding an airplane. Each time you take a flight there is some risk the airplane will crash. It’s rare but it happens. You make a choice to board and fly anyway. You could argue that you should have a parachute in case the plane begins to unexpectedly hurdle toward the ground. Only in rare cases does a pilot/passenger have legal access to a parachute however. So when the door of the plane is closed before takeoff, you’ve made a decision to take a risk. It can’t be undone or reconsidered just because something goes awry.

As a second argument, perhaps neither women nor men should have make decisions about their reproductive healthcare. Perhaps all healthcare decisions should be left to the government. For example, the government could force individuals to take vaccines. Some of those vaccines could sterilize certain populations that would be considered less desirable. Health care could be similarly rationed via government health care systems so that certain groups could be favored over the weak or elderly or unborn. A reward/penalty system could be devised to encourage or discourage certain sexual behavior or practices, including family size. If you’ve read this far and found this to be abhorrent, you understand the sarcasm.

Thanks for asking this question. And thanks for cleverly trying to hide the moral issues. Rights aren’t rights when they are wrong.

atiquahbby · Accepted Answer

I voted no for two reasons. I believe that women have the rights to their own body but under the condition that the fetus does not have cognitive brain activity. From a scientific perspective, if the fetus has cognition, it falls under the argument of whether or not it is moral and it should not be up for debate for a change of mind.
Secondly, if the fetus is not of that stage yet, then it is the woman's body and her right to choose what she wants in her womb.

So the question is two foldered. Why do men think that they have to be part of it?

If it is for scientific reason that the fetus is viable outside the womb, then it should not be up for debate anyway. So if men just want to be part of it because they feel they are missing out, then it is simply just a means of asserting authority on someone else's body.

If men want kids, they have other options. Forcing one person to sacrifice their body for many months to have a child against their will shouldn't even be an option or part of a discussion anymore.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

To some degree yes, in the same way society has a say on what we all do to our bodies. It is federal law to wear a seatbelt on the road. It is also a law to not drink or be under the influence of any drugs when operating an automobile. It is illegal to do various drugs. Its a matter of opinion on weather it's only "her body" that is affected in things like abortion. I would say actions are not free from consequences and abortion should be illegal. Its not for the reasons of control or punishment this should be the case. It is simply because you are taking the life of a baby. You are killing your own flesh and blood. Imho if you do such a thing you're no better then the people locked up in death row. You're the same kind of evil and such evil people should not have the ability to freely roam civilized society.

I believe that both the woman who got the abortion and the man who got her pregnant should be punished harshly so there is no dispute that this is some attempt to control women. By allowing women the right to sleep with who they want to sleep with, when they want to sleep with them we have given them free will to choose. What they do after that is all on them. As far as I'm concerned the baby has it's own body and while it might be seen as an inconvenience to some very despicable females the fact remains they already made their choice. The argument often is "they'll get the abortion anyways and could die in a backroom botched abortion" to which I say; "A life for a life, if she's willing to kill her own flesh and blood then why should I view her life as having any value at all, the life of a baby killer no less"?

I dont view abortion as bodily autonomy I view it as an attempt to have freedom of consequences. No human being on this earth should ever have freedom of consequences. I believe swift justice should be executed upon all who do ill in this world. I would treat a woman who aborted a fetus for the sake of convenience as no different then any other violent criminal. The excuse is "women are often pressured by men". To which I remind people that we are supposed to be assuming men and women are equal. She's an adult who consented, period. Yes the guy is a jackass for pressuring her but she always had the ability to say NO. To try to make up any other excuse would be an admission she and/or women are not the equals of men because they need to be handled with kid gloves for their decisions. Only way I could see any argument for an abortion is rape or a life threatening emergency. Statistics say that roughly 98% of abortions are done as a result of casual sex. Therefore 98% of women who get abortions are no good, dirty scum that deserve severe jail time, 10 years or more. Same goes for the men if they willingly participated in the murder of their own kids.

StrongMale · Accepted Answer

Yes, of course.. unless the woman was impregnated by a martian.

Far too often it is completely ignored that pregnancy doesn’t happen without a man. Yes, I know, it’s a shocker, but it’s the inconvenient truth. No male = no sperm to fertilize the female egg. And because the potential human would not be possible without him, and is as much a part of him as it is of her, he should obviously and certainly have some input. Now, I personally don’t give a damn about nibby nosing into what private choices women in general make about their bodies. Their body, their business. But if an individual woman happens to have become pregnant through her chosen sexual interaction with me, then it’s not just about her body anymore, it’s about a potential human being with a body of its own, and it’s about me too, as that potential human being would be my offspring as well as hers.

So now that we have straightened that out, I want to say that, as the woman is the one whose body bears the incredible strain of 9 months of pregnancy, she should always have the final say in matters relating to that. But the idea that men have no involvement in “reproductive healthcare choices” (aka ‘pregnancy’) - and thus no say in the matter - makes absolutely no sense.

Snsl153 · Answer

"This is strictly about whether men should even get a say about what a woman chooses to do with her own body when they are not the ones forced to give up their body's health to carry a child."
The problem with this whole issue as I see it, is the adversarial nature of it. I don't think it's as simple as whether or not a man should "get a say" about what a woman should do with her own body.
The answer to the question of whether or not people, whether male or female, should be allowed to influence what others do with their bodies is not so clear-cut, because:
a) What if the person in question is a minor, under 18? Do parents get to have a say in whether or not their daughter should, or should not, have a child?
b) What if the person in question is mentally handicapped?
c) Regarding the abortion issue, at what point is a "foetus" seen as being a child? At what stage of development?
d) What about the rights of the father? Yes, you know, the other person in this equation, the one who is often totally ignored, and who is just as responsible for the appearance of the child as the mother.
e) What about the, extremely biased, media coverage of this topic? We only ever hear stories about how, "Having an abortion was the greatest thing ever! It was just a clump of cells that I got rid of, like cutting my nails. No big deal". Well, what about all those women who ended up regretting the decision? We never hear their side.
And finally, what about the child/baby/foetus/whatever-you-want-to-call-him/her? Isn't human life intrinsically valuable? What crime did the child commit that warrants his/her execution?
I'll probably get a lot of criticism for this, but I don't care. What's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong. Abortion is wrong, that's all there is to it.

Sixgunsound · Answer

If the question is about owning your own body, when women who are the gatekeepers to sex and can thus refuse pregnancy altogether, but after choosing to do activities that can lead to pregnancy have refused their exclusive access to almost every birth control option, have chosen not to use plan B, I do not feel bad for people who choose to be in this position.

Before we can even have that conversation, however, we need to be intellectually honest about who owns their body and who does not. Sexual assault has always been a crime, and means of abortion have predated written language, and have been recovered in very early examples of writing both in fiction and in medicine. Conscription, or the requirement for men to be abducted under duress to die in wealthy people’s international pissing contests, is as old as time. This fundamental lack of ownership over men’s lives or health or time is not applicable to women, so who REALLY doesn’t own their body and is subject to harsher external controls?

ObscuredBeyond · Answer

Killing babies is controlling women's lives. Especially unborn women! But also, the spiritual slavery of bondage to sexual sin. And furthermore, trafficked women are often forced or coerced into it, at behest of pimps. Not criminalizing baby butcher furthermore gives traffickers an easy way to bribe a surgeon to cover up innumerable crimes against mothers. And parents who would force their daughters to abort, can now be exposed as the abusers they are.

Killing children isn't the answer. It's making the innocent party answer with its life for the transgressions of prior generations. That practice needs to be erased. Period.

If that means making casual sex shameful again, so be it. This will force a lot of men, as well as women, to start cleaning up their act.

May the next thing to be reversed be LBJ's"Great Society" legislation. Its legacy has been nothing but destructive and demoralizing.

And if entertainers want to keep pushing the envelope of degeneracy, put them on notice. The charade is over. America is becoming America again. We will not remain sheep for the slaughter. We will not be China's guinea pigs any longer! And may Pooh suffer an agony for his crimes for which there is no word!

Anonymous · Answer

If women don’t want children they shouldn't be sexually active with a man. If there were no doctors around, who thee “hell” is gonna terminate the abortion? NOBODY!

Im all for abortion. But a grown-adult-woman should be responsible enough to not become pregnant if she isn’t ready or financially ready. She should take full responsibility for her actions. There are condoms available everywhere, there is plenty of amazing sex toys available. There are birth control devices that can be implanted.

There should be no reason for an abortion to take place at all if you are smart enough and grown enough.
Rape is a different story. Incest is a different story. And being homeless is a different story. In that case yes. Terminate it. Sterilize the homeless. Lock up those who practice incest.

BUT IN THIS DAY AND AGE.. A SMART GROWN WOMAN WHOS GOT HER HEAD SCREWED IN RIGHT, WOULDN’T BE IN NEED OF PRACTICING ANY ABORTION.

(I’m 24, poor, going to school, living with mom and dad, and if I want to have fun and get frisky, I’ll use any of my 20 sex toys, or I’ll use condoms with my sex-friend)(I’ve never had to partake in no abortion)

Anonymous · Answer

I agree with you. Men shouldn't have a say.
Personally I think nature has made females in a way that their ability to bear children, and also their most important yet overlooked and undervalued characteristic, MOTHERHOOD, is very unfair to them.
For starters, both males and females have sex. Males enjoy it, get an orgasm, and go off to enjoy the rest of their day. But the female gets pregnant, risks her health and life through pregnancy and childbirth, and if she survives, she is then chained to her offspring and forced to battle the world to feed and protect those children. The male is free to help or not help, and even harm those very children. He is free to stay or go. (Lots of guys are MIA and leave the poor mother of their children at the mercy of costly frustrating torturesome legal procedures and they do get away with it).
At least in the animal kingdom, females aren't restricted by the dictations of society. But in the human realm, ever since religion, women have been treated far worse than today's caged chickens that are imprisoned for their eggs.

Before religion, women's situation was mostly equal to a free female animal. After religion, all control was handed over to men. Women were forced to marry, expected to obey and have sex (which I think is the definition of rape), prevented from using birth control, forced to raise those children AND cook and clean and serve, and were even beaten in the process. Women were also forced to remain virgins until marriage and to remain faithful and were severely punished if they failed to do so. While men were free to do as they wished.

I ask this of the guys here that are so quick to hate and blame and condemn women, how would YOU feel if anyone did any of those things to YOU? Think of it from a woman's perspective. Empathize.

Sorn40 · Answer

I'm torn here. I don't want to tell a woman she should have a baby she doesn't want (if it is at a very low level of development). I don't, but I also think some ugly stereotypes exist to a degree about men (not caring about the child they might have). If the pregnancy was the result of a rape and the woman doesn't want this kid, they should not be forced at all to have it if they don't want it. Somehow, I feel most women would not go through with a pregnancy that came as the result from a man who forced themselves on them (even though the child born from a union isn't to blame from it).

With that said, there is this sense that the male here has no say at all involved? So I think at least a conversation should take place between the man and the woman involved here first before an abortion takes place (since once that decision is made) it's done forever.

I also think that some men and women who have sex at a certain point in their life, once making a decision to abort might have regrets later on doing so in life.

If a woman could die from having a baby, they should not be forced to have a baby that she doesn't want and could have a good percentage in killing her.

VanillaSalt · Answer

First off… The Supreme Court has women on it and their elected to make such decisions…

Second. I supported safe, legal, rare but that was taken far far beyond rare. There’s actually people bragging about having their 8th abortion… When you went to school the privilege of chewing gum or eating snacks was taken because some idiot stuck their gum to the bottom of the desk or their mess attracted ants…What privileges have you lost on a job because someone else screwed it up?

Ide love to continue supporting safe, legal, and rare but women have proven they can’t be trusted to make such decisions… although I’ll consider a compromise… outlaw sex outside marriage. Then both men and women are held to the same standard.

I also wanna be clear. Where have all the men gone? When I say this wouldn’t be an issue if women weren’t opening their legs to the wrong/every guy. The response I keep getting is if men didn’t simp, if men would be better men, if guys didn’t try and screw everything with 2+ legs… Women want men to be leaders and this is men leading.

Femphile_xoxo · Answer

Men shouldn't have a say in women's reproductive choices. It's her body, not his. Men aren't the ones carrying the child, and putting their bodies at risk during and after pregnancy. There's the argument about "well but if he's the father", while it might be disappointing for the man's partner to get an abortion, it's her choice and he's not at all harmed. All the man contributes to pregnancy is sperm, not his wellbeing.

It's also popular enough to argue that "she should never have gotten pregnant" but who's saying she wanted to get pregnant. Many women get abortions due to social and economic reasons, meaning they most likely didn't want to get pregnant in the first place. Whether it be unsafe sex, a condom ripping, birth control not working, or the whole slur of ways to get pregnant.

SimpleGuy95 · Answer

Why isn´t their a button for the option it depends? Because I wouldn´t say that men should generally have a say in that because it obviously not their body plus most relationships don´t go very long so that would be too much responsibility given to a person she doesn´t spend time with for a very long time.
I rather say yes in some cases but rather in terms of him giving his opinion or giving a statement but not in terms of a veto rather as a second opinion if you know what I mean.
It´s rather meant as him saying his view in some specified cases. I would mostly reduce that on the question of procreation because most guys don´t know much about a woman´s body anyway so I wouldn´t say that they should decide something for her.

FriendlyDrugDealer · Answer

I’ve talked on this topic multiple times and my response is best summarized by a comedian.

“ if you have a penis, you need to shut the fuck up on this one. No one has the right to tell a woman what she has to do with her body. A woman doesn’t have to discuss her body with anyone besides her physician of her choosing. With that being said, if you can kill this baby, I can at least abandon him. If I’m wrong then perhaps we are all wrong.”

Still-alive · Answer

I always say that no the father doesn't get a say... however it is highly highly recommended that the mother has a serious discussion with the father about this. the father must let her ultimately decide what to do but he should be informed and they can discuss pro's and cons about keeping the child or not.

Of course all this flies out the window if the father turns out to be abusive or is a rapist of course.

Kaytiee · Answer

Swaying off the direct question a bit here, but if the man knew the woman didn't want a baby, but still persuaded/guilt-tripped the woman into not having to use a condom, and then the woman ends up pregnant, then the man should have NO choice, as he knew she didn't want a child and now she is simply taking actions to enforce that, unlike you refusing to wear a condom.

But no, a man shouldn't have the final choice in what a woman does with her body, he's not the one having to carry it for 9 months. Could the father have valuable input? Yes, but a man having the final decision will never happen in the western world.

ZackBan · Answer

As long as men are being made to pay for the woman's decision they should natrually have a say.
You want men not have say whatsoever?
Push to have involuntary child support abolished.

Because this isn't just about a person's body it's about a person's life. A woman decides to keep a baby and a man is stuck holding a very expensive bill for 18 years often eliminating his chances at building a decent life for himself.

So instead of talking about moralites let's talk about a solution that benefits everyone (except maybe the swindlers who try to trap athletes by having their kids, those can take their little scam and go to hell)

WonderBell99 · Answer

I'm pro-choice, but the father (as long as he isn't a deadbeat/abusive) should DEFINITELY have a say on what happens to the child. It takes two to tango. The father's feelings should be taken into consideration.

The woman should sit down and have a conversation with the father and make a decision that would be best for themselves and the baby. If both are adults, they should act like it. On the other hand, if the woman does not want to raise the baby, she could either give the full custody to the father/put it up for adoption.

If she does not want to carry the baby up to term, and is sure that she wants to terminate the pregnancy, they should come to a compromise. I, personally, think if a woman does not want to carry a baby, she should not be forced.

If the mother's in a bad place mentally or is not ready to carry a child, it will take a toll on her mental health which will be detrimental to the baby's development.

ManOnFire · Answer

If a woman can tell a man she won't sleep with him unless he wears a condom - which is having a say in a healthcare decision for her benefit and not his, why can't a man in a relationship with a woman have a say on whether she should abort or not?

I am still puzzled with this whole pro-life/pro-choice debate with genders because women want to have a right to do something that they would demonize men for if men wanted the women to have an abortion. A man becomes a selfish asshole if he wanted a woman to have an abortion, but a woman is not a selfish asshole for wanting to do it because she doesn't want her future ruined.

SolitarySolace · Answer

1. Abortion isn't a form of Healthcare
2. Men should have a say regarding the decision because it is also HIS CHILD TOO. This is why I keep saying women are selfish. Because once they're pregnant all they think about is themselves. As if they got themselves pregnant and didn't willingly give her body away to a man in the act of consenting to having Sexual intercourse with him. I honestly don't care if an abortion is had or not. I only care that both the woman AND THE MAN both agree to it because if one agrees and one doesn't there should be a court hearing or something like with divorces. Instead, the women can completely disregard the man's opinions on the matter as if his opinions mean jack shit. This is why I'm never having kids. Apart from the fact that I'm voluntarily celibate and find jamming my piss shooter into a woman's lifeless flaps to be absolutely disgusting. 🤮

Kaamraj · Answer

I will vote no if men have a say in whether the child is born or not. Meaning whether they are going to end up having to pay child support for a child that they might not want necessarily or not be prepared for. I agree that one should you protection always but that goes both ways and there is a slight chance of its failure. Secondly, do female politicians have a say in the selective service of men, or matters of the armed forces which is almost exclusively a male domain? - What about labor and risk intensive job sectors? If those conditions are met than I agree that men and women should not have a political say in matters that affect the other exclusively.

Sarahnah · Answer

No, the final say should be up to the woman. He's not carrying the fetus, he won't be the one giving birth, and it's not his body that the abortion is being operated on.

However, I think men should have the right to sign away the obligation to financially support the child at least two weeks before abortion is illegal in their state of residence. Say if in his state abortion was illegal after 15 weeks, then the man has until the end of week 13 to refuse child support. 2 weeks is enough for the woman to decide if she wants to keep the pregnancy or not after she is notified that she won't be receiving financial support from her partner.

Apple1996 · Answer

Nah all these men bitching about how abortion is murder can get fucked. They have no idea how difficult it is being pregnant, giving birth, and having to care for a child. And it's just impossible for them to understand those things so they really need to keep their months shut when it comes to abortions and women's health.

sunflower00 · Answer

Absolutely not, it’s the woman’s body so it is her decision. Of course, on topics like abortion, the woman should listen to her partner and take their opinions into account, but she should always have the final say - who would want another person to legally be allowed to have a say in what happens to your body? Men - how would you like it if women got to decide if you got a vasectomy or not because they are your partner and they don’t want kids?

SilentlyWatching · Answer

I'm sick to death of seeing men saying this that and the other about a woman's body, her choices etc and how inaccurate and stupid some of their opinions on certain matters are.

What also frustrates me is that this would never even be a question if the roles were reversed, and infact if certain things were said in regards to taking away choice or forcing men into doing something to their bodies there would be an uproar and many people would say "how ridiculous!".

Absolutley cannot believe we are going backwards in some ways. The world is going to absolute shit.

So in conclusion, no men shouldn't have a say, if you're in a relationship with somebody, communication and joint respect on others opinions etc should be obvious. You can decide together and decide as a partnership, making choices as a couple etc etc.

cth96190 · Answer

While I am utterly opposed to the murder of babies in the womb, I can see an argument that abortion has an upside, in that it is almost exclusively Democrats and other leftards who are murdering their babies.
That will result in a longer-term demographic shift toward conservatism in future generations, because tens of millions of future Democrat voters were murdered in the womb.
So, from an unspeakable evil, will come a greater good.
Perhaps the founder of Planned Parenthood, had that in mind.

Dargil · Answer

Should men ever have a say in a woman's reproductive healthcare choices when women have no say in theirs?
*A husband should in every respect.
*Infanticide is not "reproductive healthcare". Don't bore me with "a fetus is not human".
*Wives have a say in men's "reproductive healthcare choices."

You know that rationalizing abortion is rationalizing irresponsibility.
Keep your knees together and there won't be a problem.
The time to choose is before you screws.

Chiarac2003 · Answer

I think he should be able to voice his opinion. In most situations of course. I’ve had a few guys take off the condom during and I nvr knew. My current boyfriend doesn’t like them so he wanted me to go on the pill.

DaisyM23 · Answer

I mean obviously if it's a parent (in the case of parental approval for children but even then, that's a bit iffy) and I guess if you're in a relationship and it'd impact the guy then yes? But for the whole part, the ultimate and final decision should be for the woman

CrazyGirl2 · Answer

Wow Ez, talk about a leading question 😘 “This is strictly about whether men should even get a say about what a woman chooses to do with her own body when they are not the ones forced to give up their body's health to carry a child.”
Under most circumstances, obviously not! But if a couple are married, and he wants children, to NOT include him in the discussion… I dont know, it just seems underhanded to me! But I do see your point, and I basically agree.

lightbulb27 · Answer

It if she’s conscious and sane. Ithink they have a right to express their wishes to her but the woman has dominion over herself.

If there’s a life inside her then it’s still her domain over that life.

This why it’s important to protect the woman’s emotions and that of the relationship. That thinking alone would solve most of the social ills.

CallmeTheKnight · Answer

In my opinion, it depends on the topic. Although pregnancy and abortion takes place with the woman's womb, a man is required to get her pregnant.
There are men who sympathize with women on this issue and there are those who are unaware. However, to debate whether men should be involved only sabotage the unity women seek on other issues. To push us men out of something only divides and will cause people to fend for themselves on matters they're not prepared for.

So many arguments on this issue and not a single common sense and reasonable has been formed. People have to drop this my way or the highway attitude and seek unity on these matters.

Anonymous · Answer

For as long as women are the ones carrying the baby it's their body their choice.
Let's be real, as much as the term displeases people, it's a parasite. Sure it's human and we love them, still a parasite-host relationship as far as biology goes. We should prioritize the rights of the host. Not of the body that can't live on his own.

BillyBalls · Answer

How about Women in general grow the fuck up?

The Femi-Nazis scream that only a woman should be in control of her own body.

Well that is 100% correct.

So why the fuck don't women do the adult thing and take control of their reproductive systems and not get pregnant if they don't want a kid... Are women incapable of doing that?

Also, as to child support. If you want men to stay out of your uterus stay the fuck out of men's wallets. If you can't afford a kid don't get pregnant.

Anonymous · Answer

You get to decide what you do to yourself and with voluntary others. But the line is crossed when you act against anther person.

Like it or not sexual intercourse is how babies are made. When you choose to have sex you assumed that risk of a dependency for not less than 9 months. That dependency did not get to choose you, and you don't have the right to kill him or her because they are inconvenient.

Nor can you simply be allowed to unilaterally dehumanize anther person to justify their killing. Theses choices MUST be made by a legal process to protect the rights of both mother and child.

Oigit · Answer

If a woman wants men to not have any say in their reproductive rights, they need to do the same for men. Meaning women can't have any say in men getting vasectomies or using the male birth control pills that are making their way onto the market. We know that isn't going to happen because some men will make demands of women and some women will make demands of men. Also politics and religion will also be dragged into the conversation as well. Only further complicating the issue.

Bluemax · Answer

By "have a say" what exactly do you mean? Do you mean fathers somehow being able to override a mother's decision to have an abortion? Do you mean never be allowed to vote (in the case of legislators), veto (in the case of a president), or rule on (in the case of judges) if they are male?

Why are you personally against having an abortion yourself?

Guy13 · Answer

It’s murder of a beating heart with a full genetic code. Where is your sense of Morality? Murder, in your own body no less. Your “right” is not greater than Life. If someone stabbed your dad, mom, brother and/or dog to death, like they do to babies, THEN you would want Justice for your family or dog stabbing.
—It’s sickening that we even have to have conversation over something as elementary as this.

Novacane · Answer

I think they shouldn’t since it’s a woman’s body and she is usually the one that will be dealing with the child then they should have the final say. BUT also note that if you choose to leave men out and tell them they have no opinion or their opinion doesn’t matter don’t be surprised when men are not out there fighting with you for that right.

shaysh87 · Answer

Men shouldn't have a say because in vast majority of all cases, its the SINGLE MOTHER who has to raise the kid on her own all alone. Vast majority of single mothers dont even get child support. Why should a man who doesn't even need to be a single dad to his own child, Have any say in a womans choice on whether or not she has to raise a kid on her own?

Men have never taken responsibility for offspring. Vast majority of single parents are women.

mollyyyy37474 · Answer

I think any human should, since it’s the way of life and that egg will become a human just like you *shocker*. Also those who have been raped should adopt & the government should give the resources such as therapy, job opportunities, & more to both the child in the future and mother.

exitseven · Answer

I am not really 100% sure about this. If the guy happens to be the biological father he should have some standing in making the decision. How much standing is up for grabs and above my pay grade.

Juan_Sheet · Answer

Husbands or partners should definitely get a say, however male dominated societies should not. My wife would have a say in mine if it was decided its time for a vasectomy.

What really disgusts me is if a woman is raped and then is told she has to keep the baby through absolutely no fault of her own as some US states are planning.

whiskeyontherocks · Answer

No! Never in the eyes of the law.
I’m at odds that men and women that engage in sex have no obligation to one another’s opinions. advocates for men have brought up some very challenging questions regarding this debate.

If you had sex with him I would hope his opinion would Matter to you enough to include him in the decision process. Ultimately it would be up to the women however.

RSav4013 · Answer

I am not going to tell someone what to do with their body and I'd expect the same.

HighValue · Answer

It is not "her" body. It is the child's body.
If she can't handle the consequences of her actions, she should lose the ability to choose her actions.
Charge them with murder and imprison them.

Multiple abortions proves that she can't handle consequences and should be forced to have a procedure to not be able to have more kids.

Luggit · Answer

How I see it.. If not married, a man already had his rights to say no to sex. If he doesn't say no to sex and impregnates her, it then becomes her right.  But if married joined as one, she loses half her rights. Now she'll have to battle this out with him.

SkyCastle90 · Answer

Obvious answer is no; no one should control anyone. However, if the guy is a husband or long term boyfriend, then yeah he should be apart of the abortion discussion at least or made aware that their child is getting aborted for reasons X, Y, and Z so he can be there as emotional support.

Anonymous · Answer

It's disingenuous to suggest fathers should have no say in the decisions regarding their children AND they should have no say in decisions about whether they should be legally and financially responsible as a father to the child in question. There is an underlying assumption among women in general, and feminists in particular, that the implications of a pregnancy to a mother should always trump the implications to a father "because it's her body", and yet a simple financial analysis of the costs of raising a child to adulthood, both in terms of money spent and opportunity cost of time required, FAR outweigh the cost of the services of a surrogate. I have a very difficult time caring about women's legal right to an abortion when women as a whole do not give a fuck about the interests of men in the matter.

Mdub62 · Answer

I hate this line of questioning, because it implies that women have every right to have a say in other women's reproductive rights. It's either an individual right or it isn't. And if it is an individual right, nobody should be able to regulate anyone else's body. That having been said, in an academicsense, of course a man's opinion should of course matter less than a woman's. I wouldn't tell a woman how to feel on something I can't feel. Thats only logical. Guys, imagine you were uncircumcised (which isn't as contraversial as abortion, but there are people who have strong feelings about it) and you didn't want to get circumcised,, and a woman was yelling and cursing at you and shaming you for it. What would you're response be? Would take a woman's opinion seriously on circumcision? Keep that in mind when discussing abortion with women.

Lionman95 · Answer

I´d go for no because it´s not their body. I think guys rather should do anything in their ability to be seen as a valid source of advice so she might ask him for advice but that doesn´t mean that there should be anykind of rule that it should always be like that.

Seinna · Answer

Both men and women have a choice - when they chose to have sex. The primary function of sex is to procreate, not have fun. That's just a pleasant side effect. One exception is when the woman is raped or the pregnancy is a threat to her health or life, in which case the decision should be all hers.

fonduegirl · Answer

I don't think anyone should have a say in what a woman wants to do with her body. If she's your spouse or girlfriend, you should have discussed the matters beforehand. If she's against childfree, and you were hoping she'd change her mind, that's really a shame. Because you can't force your decision on someone. If you think a baby is more important than a relationship, you can either adopt or look for a different partner!

jshm2 · Answer

Yes. It's called democracy i. e. rule by the majority.  As back then, men were the sole voters and it's only 50 odd years ago that women were given the vote. Therefore it's only natural that the laws are going to seem lopsided towards one gender or the other. These sort of things take decades to correct.

Jamie05rhs · Answer

I don't want to control any woman's body in any way whatsoever. I just don't want unborn babies to be killed. Yes, there are legitimate medical reasons to have an abortion, and those should still be allowed, of course. But there's no excuse to take a life just because you don't want to have the responsibility of raising a child.

sirderpsalot123 · Answer

The father (as long as he isn't abusive) should absolutely have a say on what happens to the child he helped create. That doesn't mean that he gets to make the final decision, it just means that his feelings on the matter should be taken into consideration. The woman should have a serious conversation with the he should be remained informed every step of the way. And yes, this should be a requirement.

Intothevoid666 · Answer

Men cannot have sex without consenting to having kids just saying so it’s kinda entitled when women demand they should have that. Women have been perfectly fine going on for decades forcing men to pay for kids they didn’t want even bankrupting them and sending them to jail but now we’re talking about women not having that right either and suddenly all hell breaks loose. I’m not against abortion but the entitlement that most women have around the topic really gets to me.

Kristog · Answer

This is a difficult one, in most things I'd say NO as it's the options body, so if they want tubes tied then it's up to them... BUT abortion is then different as it should be BOTH parties... But in a relationship I think talking is healthy and needed in all things even for men... I had the snip years ago but only after a full discussion with my then wife...

aialex · Answer

In a serious relationship, perhaps.  In a one-night-stand, I think they should sit down and make their decision clear. If he doesn't want to pay child support, she should have abortion.

John_Doesnt · Answer

Nope, just like women shouldn't be allowed to tell us to put the seat down.

TheBigGuy9 · Answer

Just a few weeks ago you could t define what a woman was. Where were you for women’s rights when mr. Thomas was swimming against women? Should men have a say? How bout this. I identify as a woman with a Uterus. Now I can make the decision. See how convenient all of that was for me to do? Do you even know why Abortion was started?  And it’s not like their aren’t preventative measures you can take to avoid pregnancy.

Razp_Sorbet · Answer

To some degree yes a discussion should be had but ultimately it's the women's body so it is her decision.

Neilbud · Answer

A girl on here once said that when it comes to dating a child will always come first before the boyfriend, and I agree.  So based on that... A good man will worry less about his finances and more about his kid ( assuming the money actually goes to the kid). A good weman will worry less about her body and more about her kid as well.  I see no reason to overcomplicate it beyond that.

RationalMale · Answer

Because of child support men absolutely have a say in women's choice to carry children or abort. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too--either men are responsible and have some authority, or no responsibility and no authority.  If we abolish child support laws and abolish all restrictions on abortion at the same time, that is fair.  However you don't get to say the child is so important that one parent can be imprisoned if they don't support the child--yet the child is so worthless the mother can abort it on a whim like having a mole removed.

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