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rebel and object against...
- China Puppet Aka Joe Biden
- Bad Economy
- Inflation
- High Gas Price
- Letting Men Compete In Women Sports
and anything that prevents America to be great again
The Republicans are disgusting and pathetic. I guess the best thing they've done is get rid of Madison Cawthorn in the primaries.
Where is the "all of the above & add more to the list" button? Because it's hard to choose just one.
Provided endless cringe material to ridicule, and landed many of their fervent followers in jail.
For doing what?
Nothing good about this current brand of Republican... literally nothing
There isn't a band of republicans at all. There are lots of different factions and interest groups doing different things among the States. The best ones are pulling away from Washington D. C. and working to practically build a new system of decentralized power. The worse ones are acting like democrats, and the 2nd worse ones are sitting in D. C. taking bribes like Mitch.
@monorprise if you look at it that way, then I would say that I agree there are no "Republicans" based on the fact that those would traditionally be conservatives, and that's not what these are to be sure.
I also agree that the McConnells of the world sit up there obstructing any policy helpful to actual people. The only legislation they are interested in is subsidies for corporations and servicing their donors. Which also happens to describe a goodly amount of Democrats.
What I can tell you sitting here in Texas is that Greg Abbott's policies and those of state leadership are quite destructive to those below a certain income level and also pander to the corporate interest.
The people have precious little voice left in their own governance, state or national level and I honestly find what appears to be a desire on the part of some to move to authoritarian rule and absolutely silence the voices of voters "unlikely to vote for them" more than alarming.
@Ill_made_Knight A conservative is not a liberal, whatever they believe that is conservative has to be based in the history of their country or state. Everything else is just a novel idea, separate from conservative believes.
There are few if any laws passed by congress which would actually help the American people. That list exists no further than forign policy issues and repealing their uniformly Unauthorized war on the rights of all Americans. Thus far Congress has been failing miserably in both areas as illustrated by the wars they are losing, both overseas and on our own border, the currency they are debasing, and the money they are wasting for the goods and services via corrupt mismanagement.
Their domestic war upon the American people to include everything from their oppressive secrete polices raids on their political enemies to preventing us from caring out an almost infinite range of intrastate economic, religious, and cultural activities that would otherwise enhance our lives.
Regarding Texas which I know well, your claims about its State government is rather delusionally out of touch with the comparative life offered by many if not most other states.
The fact that you yourself have choose to live there is further evident of that fact when claim you have "Far better options" to choose form.
Texas is doing very well particularity for its poor and middle class, unlike states like California or New York who are entrapping in poverty with an almost unbridgeable gap and actually forcing them to flee to places like Texas.
@monorprise I was born in Texas some 60 years ago and have lived in multiple other places and another country and returned due to family. One person's idea of what is good and the proper way to approach achieving that can be substantially different... no need in calling anyone delusional. That's more than alittle insulting in my opinion.
We can agree to disagree.
@Ill_made_Knight I too have lived in many states including Texas, for which my ties are hardly any less strong.
I know what the rest of the federation is like and I know why soo many have been moving to Texas a state that is hardly matched in growing prosperity particularly among the 'poor'.
If your family agrees with you perhaps you should investigate why they are still living in Texas a state that you claim is soo undesirable compared to all others.
For most people including my family it is because Texas offers among the best quality of life anywhere in these united States. Reasonable housing, food, and energy costs, and a great relative abundance of well paying jobs.
Lets be honest few people move to Texas because of the weather.
The State government and its steady small government approach is the main reason for this. We know this is true by comparative analyses with other states who differ and share various polices with various similar results.
@monorprise I am with them. They are all on fixed incomes. I have investigated and experienced over the last two years the chamges that Texas has made in it;s laws since I left. If I were a young man with the energy to start anew I MIGHT feel differently, but I assure you that Texas is a cruel and ugly place for people in certain circumstances. Republicans have been building a society that encouraces the elderly to wither and die quickly for YEARS,,,,
Good day
MInd you NONE of us has been what those peole are so fond of referring to as "freeloaders"
We have all worked very hard our entire lives, but are the kind that they want to throw away because they are no longer "profitable"
@Ill_made_Knight You will have to be more spesfic I know many people your age and older in Texas including some who have moved there because of the laws.
I know of nothing cruel, beyond the wreak-less Federal spending induced inflation that has crippled a great many elderly and poor across this country.
@monorprise I do... now let it drop... we are different and I can absolutely guarantee you will not change my views or tell you that I agree with the things those people are doing. As far as I am concerned they are fascists... so let it go. Like I said up above I'm perfectly fine with agreeing to disagree... enough...
@Ill_made_Knight
Why do you call people you've never met with whom you disagree national socialist?
Most of the people i know would quite disagree with that categorization, in fact they rather dislike any kind of big government in general including national socialism.
But you throw around that label as if it had a completely different meaning, one quite like life in much of America and all of it not so long ago.
The best thing they've done this year... not be in power.
Sent miss piggy and almost all the rest of her cohorts packing in the primaries.
They got Roe V Wade repealed. Voted liz cheny out of politics.
They didn't do that this year. That was the court
@monorprise it was the gift that kept on giving.
Pretty sure it was a Democrat who created the 10-year old rape victim.
Whoever posted this, you gave me a VERY pleasant surprise lol
There is nothing they did good since 2020. except being shamed into voting the bill in for veterans health.
More people hate Republicans now. Republicans do not fix real issues just whine on useless cultural wars
Why would more people hate the party unable to do anything to them?
@monorprise For blocking the party that's trying to do things for the people.
@goaded We can debate the constitutionally and value of those federal acts, but Republicans are not in a position to block anything at all in Washington D. C. ...
By contrast where Republicans are in control in various states they done a great many things making those states among the most successful in these united States.
@monorprise "Republicans are not in a position to block anything at all in Washington D. C." That's the funniest thing you've ever written.
@goaded Do not democrats hold a majority in the house and an effective majority in the senate as well as the presidency?
Your not entitled to have republicans and even all democrats to agree your proposals are both constitutional and helpful.
Indeed its rather self-evident by the history of such ideas having been tried before in this country or others around the world that they would in fact do far more harm than good.
But even if they were good for some parts perhaps even those sections represented by a majority and not for others that does not make it good Federal policy when it would be better state policy as to get the benefits where it helps and avoid it where it does not.
The congressional system is designed not NOT pass laws most of the time on most issues so that that such issues can be handled elsewhere. The only place it fails is in not automatically repealing said laws.
@monorprise Is there not a thing called the filibuster? Nothing the Democrats are proposing is unconstitutional, most of it is helpful, and most of the priorities are very popular across the political spectrum. With the voters, at least.
@goaded Almost all domestic spending and law making by the Federal Government is by default unconstitutional. No congressman should ever vote for it no matter how much they agree with the policy. That alone is justification for refusing.
The fact that they don't agree with the merits of the policy as advantageous to their state and constituency is anther justification.
In a congressional system leaders are not elected to "rule" as in a parliamentary system but rather to decide what if any laws are both advantageous and necessary for your constituency.
As for the filibuster that is simply raising the bar regarding how much of the union must be on board with a particular policy being imposed at the federal level.
I remind you with the exception of dealing with select forign objects, and Federal currency policy, you should not need agreement from congress to do anything at all.
Indeed there is a great deal of action being taking place at the State level with a variety of results both good and negative for their states.
@monorprise "Almost all domestic spending and law making by the Federal Government is by default unconstitutional." Of course it isn't.
@goaded Read the 11 page Federal Constitutions, There is almost no enumerated power for any domestic law making and spending.
Just because federal politicians hand picked a few other Federal politicians to rubber stamp their agenda makes it possible not constitutional.
@monorprise So there is an "enumerated power for... domestic law making and spending".
@goaded Depending on how you count them there are about 35 or less enumerated powers in the 11 page Federal constitution.
Theses are the "Few and defined" powers of the federal government the rest of the constitutions and frankly many of theses powers is about defining and maintaining the Government.
Of the the practical enumerated powers of said government they are mostly all about addressing objects of a forign nature.
@monorprise So what? We should ignore the parts that explicitly allow collecting taxes and spending them because they're only a small proportion of the constitution?
@goaded The power to tax is not the power to spend nor is it unbounded power for its own sake but must be qualified by a authorized need such as paying legally incurred dept.
@monorprise So, you agree that the federal government has the constitutional authority to collect taxes. Then you say they have the constitutional authority to pay their debts. How do you think a country gets debts? They don't magically appear from nowhere, do they?
@goaded There are 2 categories of dept, those assumed by congress for Constitutionally authorized proposes and those assumed by congress regardless of the constitutionally authorized reason.
Like many criminals Congress has mixed the money together as to make it difficult to distinwish from where came what dept.
Nonetheless their original spending for the unauthorized proposes remain criminal.
@monorprise Nope. The constitution says they can pass laws authorising them to spend money. Your continuous claims that they can't (and nobody noticed for a couple of hundred years) are ridiculous.
@goaded Congress can pass laws to spend money only on the enumerated powers.
To assume they have any broader spending power to is to make the enumeration of powers they were given pointless.
It is also the the opposite of what was sold to We the people and our States as "A Government of Few and defined" powers of a forign nature.
@monorprise So which things does the federal government spend money on that's unconstitutional, in your never-mind-what-SCOTUS-says opinion?
@goaded The Federal Government currently spends money on a great many unauthorized things such as Public Education and health care, however it would be far easier to enumerated the few items it spends money on which are legitimate as the Federal Constitution already has.
Voting against the porked up veteran bill.
If dems really cared about veterans, they wouldn't pork up the bill in times of high inflation.
They removed one line and added not one cent or word to the bill. Suddenly 29 Republicans had to make up some lies about why they voted against it the second time.
@goaded What line?
Come on, say the whole line here.
"Not a taxable benefit. A contract buy-out for a covered health care professional under subsection (a) shall not be considered a taxable benefit or event for the covered health care professional" That's what you call adding pork, is it?
@goaded Are you sure?
www.congress.gov/.../amendments
www.congress.gov/.../pcs
Really sure?
I'm sure that was the extent of the changes between the 84-11 vote in June and the final 86-11 vote in August. In the mean time, 29 Republicans changed their minds about whether it was a good bill and celebrated blocking it.
This is what finally became law:
www.congress.gov/.../text
Tell me, what got changed between June and August?
@goaded Well, there was a gentleman's argument that they would allow amending the pork off.
Went to the house, deal was broken and went back to the senate, deal is off.
Until, of course, your porkers decided to fold and unpork the bill.
And now, after cutting a shit ton of stuff (have you seen the list of amendments?) and rephrase others, it's going to pedo peter's desk.
You're lying. There was no such "gentleman's agreement", the final modification was a minor technical detail on the June version that got 84 votes in the Senate, and they ended up voting for the bill in the end because it was a good bill that they blocked out of spite. It is now law.
@goaded After a few, have you seen the list?
After a few what? What changed between June, when just 14 Republicans voted against the bill, and July, when 41 did? One line was removed.
(Nothing at all changed in the bill between July and August, when 86 Senators finally voted to pass it, all 11 votes against were Republicans, naturally.)
www.senate.gov/.../vote_117_2_00230.htm 84-14
www.senate.gov/.../vote_117_2_00279.htm 48-47
www.senate.gov/.../vote_117_2_00280.htm 86-11
Sorry, the July vote was this one:
www.senate.gov/.../vote_117_2_00272.htm 55-42
@goaded I already told you. No accounting pork opening for extra 400M discretionary spending, by turning that amount in the bill into mandatory spending.
And they caved on that. Of course there was more stuff changed as well.
No you didn't. And the spending was already mandatory back in June, when the vote was 84-14 and most Republican senators voted for it, and nothing but the line I quoted changed between June and July, when Republicans blocked its passage, and nothing at all changed between July and August's final vote of 86-11.
But carry on pretending that there was any reason associated with the bill for blocking it in July.
@goaded As I said, there was a gentleman's agreement that the pork would be allowed out.
it wasn't, and it was thrown back to the senate.
I said before.
Now it's clean. Bitch more, next time you guys won't resist reason so much when you try pulling a trick like this.
Now, I want you to imagine your worst fear made manifest in 2023, the 15th amendment, that makes all bills voted single issue and short. This bill was only porked through accounting tricks, imagine never being able to force a thousands of pages bill?
You can re-tell the lie as often as you like, it doesn't make it true. The majority of Republicans voted for the bill once, against it once, then for it again, and the only difference between the two versions (made between the first and second of those votes) was the one line I quoted, which was removed.
"Not a taxable benefit. A contract buy-out for a covered health care professional under subsection (a) shall not be considered a taxable benefit or event for the covered health care professional" That's what you call adding pork, is it?
@goaded It's not a lie, now the pork ain't there anymore, end of story.
Lesson is, don't try tricks.
Of course you're lying when you say "now the pork ain't there anymore", the law is exactly the same bill as they voted to block in July. Exactly. The. Same.
@goaded yeah, just a few changes.
What changes? Come on, quote the changes here. There were no changes between those two votes.
@goaded Are those expenditures mandatory now?
Were they mandatory then?
Yes, and yes. Nothing changed between the July and August bills.
@goaded Before those expenditures were mandatory, now they are discretionary.
Why biden hasn't signed it yet?
Are you insane? It's already law, has been for over two weeks, and the expenditures in the bill were always mandatory.
@goaded now it's discretionary.
You "know" that, but you didn't even know it has been law for two weeks? Right. No, it's mandatory. There was no change in the bill between Republicans blocking it and 86 senators passing it once they'd backed down. The spending was always mandatory, even in June, when 84 senators voted for it.
@goaded Oh, so why the complaint despite the GOP failure to keep the country solvent?
Wanna know what happens when the country ain't solvent?
So you've finally given up lying about the bill and want to change the subject?
@goaded Now we've arrived at my point.
What are you bitching about? So they voted it in, and your pedo pete ain't signing it, despite the pork.
You've got to be kidding! I'm bitching about you lying about it all week long, when you don't even know it's been law for two weeks.
@goaded But there was a point to all of that, which is common with all these stories.
Like the mom who gave her daughter to her boyfriend and then went to get an abortion off state in order to avoid investigation, even though that abortion was completely legal.
You got the compromise, you act like you don't, and you end up surprised why the narrative doesn't stick.
Trying to change the subject again? No, the point is you lied in your opinion, and many, many times in this conversation. You not only lied about non-existant "pork", you lied about how the bill was changed, and pretended to be completely ignorant of the fact that it passed into law some time ago, even after I told you. You could have looked it up, but you chose to lie about it again. It's really quite simple: you're lying.
@goaded I'm not trying to change the subject, I just arrived at my point.
"You lied" OP lied first, you came corroborating the lie, and your lovely pedo pete hasn't signed it yet.
Thank the gods I didn't tackled each one of OPs bullshit, or I could have "just deserts" you even more.
OMG, you're still lying about the bill? It's been law since the 10th, more than a week before your initial lie. It didn't change a word between July and August, and one sentence was taken out between June and July, so nobody added anything to it, let alone billions in "pork" since many Republicans amazingly voted with Democrats in the Senate, 84-11 in June, and you're praising them for voting against it in July out of spite.
08/10/2022 Became Public Law No: 117-168.
08/10/2022 Signed by President.
08/09/2022 Presented to President.
www.congress.gov/.../actions
@goaded Sorry, I was under the wrong impression that the three submitted senate amendment were accepted. You know, the ones in July?
What were they, then? You know how their website works: www.congress.gov/.../amendments
@goaded roll call.
I think you spent so much time in your echo chamber it made you deaf.
Nothing yet, the midterms will put an end to Biden’s bullshit.
What bullshit
@blissinanarchy1 aw kiddo. Almost all of Trump’s picks have won their primaries.
Of course. He tells his cult to do something, they do it. He’s a narcissistic ass conman. People with fear of change vote for him, he validates their feelings, they hop on his dick.
@blissinanarchy1 lmao. Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better when you tards lose.
Us retards. It’s funny as fuck, you and your party have a sole disregard for truth. You see truth, you chalk it up to left winged biased media. You’re a party of white supremacists, of selfish assholes. And you see no problem.
@blissinanarchy1 wait, you just sat through 8 months of a president blaming Russia for inflation and you want to talk about truth? Lmao.
And what do you blame it on?
@blissinanarchy1 the only cause of inflation is government printing money.
Money isn’t worth jack shit domestically. We have a finite amount of gold. The currency we use in international trade is actually worth the gold. The money we use in the country is worth “trust.” You “trust” that 20$ can buy you 20$ worth of goods or services. And it can. So, for companies that are raising prices because they’re running low on supplies, why are they making record breaking profits?
@blissinanarchy1 Companies are raising prices because the dollar is worth less. It’s amazing to me that someone who is seemingly an adult doesn’t understand simple economic concepts.
And if the dollar is worth less than the raised prices wouldn’t yield such record breaking profits.
@blissinanarchy1 The number of dollars in profit doesn’t relate to it’s purchasing power. Jesus. I could give you your annual salary in VEF. You’d have over $7 million of them.
just a little reminder...
these are not real news sources, please learn to consume news
Theyve nothing and then blamed Democrats for intransigence. Brilliant.
I like the way they stuck it to those mooching war veterans!
Our meme existance is the best thing. We’re slowing the moral decay of society
By electing a guy who cheats on his first wife with his second wife, second wife with his third wife, and third wife with two porn stars, walks in on beauty pageant changing rooms, has over 20 open sexual misconduct lawsuits, and used to hang with Jeffrey Epstein?
None of that is proven
Ask trump’s ex lawyer about paying off porn stars.
Fake news! You lie!
Yeah, that's SO MUCH worse than the shit Joe's done!!