Why are people so adamant when it comes to not wearing masks?

[Anonymous]

This is a response to the question by @888theGreat :
"Why are wearing masks still an issue?"

Honestly, why do people fail to do adequate research nowadays?

Masks are not 100% effective, yes, but are meant to be used in conjunction with safe distancing and good hygiene. They still slow the spread of the virus and reduce the risk of transmission, especially to vulnerable groups.

Seriously. Some people in the U. S. A. are either just plain brainless, ignorant, inconsiderate, or have an IQ of 30.

(SOME, i never said ALL)

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Wow. People really are more brainless than I thought.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

I keep wearing my mask indoors.

I got COVID Omicron already, but I still have a persistent cough about a month later. I figure I'm not spreading COVID but it's still more sanitary to wear a mask.

It's funny to me when white people (it's only ever white people who do this, too, never got this from a person of colour) try to convince me to take it off.

Had this one Karen tell me "you know that's only 47% effective" or some bullshit number, told me I should "YouTube it" (he was maybe an old Gen X but probably a Boomer), and looked dumbfounded when I just nodded at him without saying anything else.

Like, even if it *is* only 47% effective, that's 47% MORE effective than not wearing a mask.

It was the dumbest argument.

Plus I don't have to worry about what expression I have. And I don't show my face to cameras. And there's still an ongoing pandemic of COVID, and I don't want to catch a worse variant.

Being practical about personal safety in an ongoing pandemic is just... I don't know... The minimum of being smart.

If I'm outdoors or with my "cohort", I'll take it off. I'll take it off while sitting at a restaurant and eating. But it's easy to increase the safety of myself and those around me by wearing a mask.

Again, kinda a no brainer. But being considerate with minimal effort is kinda my jam.

[Anonymous]

People consider their personal freedom more important than the health of others. In other words - selfish morons.

[rtj1211]

Seriously, YOU are pretty brainless.

There is almost zero benefit to masks, a highly effective concentrator of vectors of illness emerging from your mouth.

Wearing masks is for those who hate communication with other human beings, since an enormous amount of communication is non-verbal, much of which comes from facial expressions, which cannot be observed on the mask wearers.

There is nothing less edifying than hearing self-righteous ignorami trashing those who bother to be skeptical, bother to educate themselves and bother to start from the assumption that the Government, the Deep State, is not there to protect us, it is there to screw us over.

You no doubt believe uncritically in vaccines, despite the globally conclusive evidence that spending 1% of that wasted on vaccines treating the Covid19 sick with off-patent, low cost, safe drugs like Ivermectin, budesonide, hydroxychloroquine, Vitamin D etc etc, would have obviated the need for lockdowns, have caused fewer to die and would not have trashed Western economies in their entirety.

If you would educate yourself to realise that this is the biggest heist in humankind, you might be starting the journey out of childhood into adulthood.

[Asker]

Seems like a pretty U. S.- minded view. I think most people who are not US citizens will disagree.

[MCheetah]

@rtj1211
AMEN, brother!

[MCheetah]

@xJeremyx
I live in South Korea, where masks are still technically mandated in indoor places, and most people still do not care and are just glad they can see each other's faces again. The same applies to Japan and The Philippines, as well.

So get f*cked with your strawman arguments, junior. You had nothing to counter his arguments with, and everyone can plainly see it.

[Asker]

If i decided to counter his argument, I would end up writing a research paper.

No thanks.

Goodnight.

[MCheetah]

@xJeremyx
Nah, you're just lazy and full of sh*t. Don't try to bullsh*t a bullsh*tter, junior. You asked the question; so you had to be prepared to counter-argue. It would only take a couple of paragraphs to do so if you had anything worthwhile to say. This is some pathetic excuse-making if I ever saw it.

[Asker]

Im not going to counter argue because there is no point. Nobody is gonna listen and you are going to insist you are correct anyway. So, to each their own, good day. End of topic.

[MCheetah]

COVID has now been downgraded to be no more dangerous than the flu. So masks are pretty pointless considering they have had vaccines since November 2020 (not that they're fully safe or anything). Besides, it was never about the masks, anyway. It was about control. How TF do some brainless, ignorant sheep think a $2 mask from Walgreens is going to stop a pandemic from spreading. They are about as effective as washing your hands an extra three seconds, and do not need to be enforced by government law.

And no, I don't even agree with many of the points 888theGreat, nor am I a Republican. I can just smell bullsh*t when it's in the room. When you have limited information, combined with conflicting information and a conflict of interest (Fauci being exposed as the lying scumbag he always was), then no f*cking sh*t people are going to be hesitant and not just bow and obey.

But yeah, some people would rather not sacrifice freedom for some BS illusion of "safety" and THEY'RE the "idiots." And not, you know, the sheep who do what they're told from Big Pharma and corrupt politicians getting paid from all this BS. MAKES SENSE TO ME! 🤡

And it's ironic that you seem to be a military medic, yet also have no backbone or spine, it would seem. "Just obey the liars making money off of sickness or ur an idiot!" That's seriously the point you're making here and expect us to take you seriously with it.

[Asker]

Its pretty much because i had a military medical background as a medic previously, that I can understand the importance of masks. Why do you think they are work in operating theatres if they are that pointless?

[MCheetah]

Go back and read it again. I didn't say they were 100% pointless. I said they don't help enough that the government should be mandating them onto people. People that work in the medical field are going to take every single precaution because they are constantly exposed to potential threats and airborne illnesses to their bodies. The average person doesn't need such conditions, especially since the TYPES of masks they are telling people to wear, do nothing, anyway.

Anything that aren't N95 respirators or higher (you know, what actual medical professionals wear?) offer maybe a 0.5 to 1% max increase in protection, if even that. So it's even EXTRA stupid to force people to wear masks that are *almost* useless. If they were going to mandate them solely for safety, they'd tell people to wear N95's not a cheap piece of cloth that couldn't even protect you from catching a cold. And if you're any kind of medical professional, then you already all of this.

But like I said, they're not about "safety," anyway. They're about control.

[MCheetah]

Also, I want to iterate: They claim the masks are to avoid physical contact from fingers to mouth. As in, if you've got COVID on your hands, you don't touch your mouth with the mask. I already know they're not to prevent airborne infection (although some people still believe that). However, they also allow people to take the masks off in restaurants, defeating the entire purpose.

COVID can also spread from your hands through your eyes as well, so why don't they tell people to wear goggles or glasses at all times, as well, if it's meant for safety and protection? Just seems like a lot of half-assed measures that don't do anything, to me. ... Because they ARE half-assed measures that don't do anything.

"Wear a mask, but not the ones that will actually help you."
"Wear a mask to prevent infection, but you can take them off in restaurants and we'll keep restaurants open in 2020 and 2021, defeating the purpose."
"We, as politicians, will force you to wear a mask, but then have parties not wearing them."

... And people seriously wonder why so many Americans question our idiotic authority figures while others follow their every order like sheep.

[Asker]

there's a reason why where I live, it is encouraged to use surgical masks, and it is widespread knowledge to not touch your face until you shower.

They are somewhat (not 100%) effective at preventing airborne droplets from entering your respiratory system, but are good for *slowing transmission by infected people.

But yes, screw the politicians, they are being kinda useless, that I can agree with.

[FunkyMonkee]

Because the don't do anything! Why is that so hard to understand? What's keeping the germ from getting in you eyes or going through your skin?

If people ACTUALLY give such a major shit about wearing them, why is that anywhere they INSIST you wear one, most of the people that DO never cover their nose, or it keeps falling down past their mouth or they just use it as a chin strap and nobody says shit about it?

On top of everything else, why can't any of you just go get one of the damn cures?

[Asker]

Nobody says shit about it because they dont want to risk confrontation if they chide other people on the streets. Plus, there are plenty of advisories on how to properly wear a mask. Some people are just too lazy to care.

[Asker]

The virus transmits through respirstory droplets. Do those come from your eyes? No. They come from the nose and mouth. Which is why we wear masks to prevent us spreading the virus to other people.

Viruses are not penetrable through skin either. They can reside ON the skin, but not pass through it. If it could pass through, we would be in deep, deep shit. Even worse than it already is.

[FunkyMonkee]

The most recent situation: 2 weeks ago, I'm in the ER waiting room at the hospital for nearly 3 hours. You can't get in without a mask. There ARE hospital employees and security cops walking around every few minutes! Half the people there aren't wearing their asks the right way but none of the fuzz or staff say shit about it which, I'm PRETTY SURE is part of their job!

[Asker]

well, thats unfortunate, and that is admittedly a problem. Should have highlighted it to management in a complaint. But then again they are too "busy" to listen.

Why were you in the ER though? I hope you are ok.

[FunkyMonkee]

Yeah and, and, if you have it, those droplets get caught on the inside of the mask and the next time you exhale or say something, you force them through the mask infecting other people, anyway! Sweden never locked down and they had no problems with this shit for almost 2 years, now!
If someone else HAS covid and breathes in your general direction, mask or not, it's going to get into YOUR eyes!! Get it?
Worse than it already is? How many people have it, now? A dozen? 2 dozen? It's practically OVER AND DONE WITH!! The world is TIRED of COVID THEATRE!! Not only did Fauci create it, he blew it WAY THE FUCK out of proportion!! And the sheep believed everything he said! If it weren't for his bullshit, there wouldn't BE any covid anymore!! We'd have been done with it half a year after he started it, just like they did in Sweden!

[Asker]

The masks are meant to retain those droplets. Thats why its recommended to wash reusable ones daily and dispose surgical/N95 masks after use.

[USLegionary]

We still doing that?

The whole point of masks is not to protect yourself but to protect other people. So your not breathing on them. If it's just you wearing a mask and nobody else is your mask is practically worthless.

I guess people are selfish and ignorant.

[Staximus]

If I'm sick, I'm going to stay home and not get others sick. If I'm not sick, I'm going outside, to work, etc. without a stupid mask on because I don't want that damned thing on my face and because I'm not a coward. That's my choice. Most masks people wear are cheap shitty masks that don't really protect them or others, and it's just to make themselves and others feel good. I don't give a shit how other people feel about me not wearing a mask. You're brainless and ignorant if you think anything short of a biological warfare respirator is going to stop a virus from spreading. Unless you are buying the whole country a biological warfare respirator, maybe you should keep your ignorant opinions to yourself so you don't look so stupid.

[Asker]

It doesn't 100% prevent the virus, how many times do I have to say this? It slows the rate and decreases the probability of transmission.

[Staximus]

You're not going to stop a virus no matter how hard you try. You're just flailing. Might as well go out and shovel sand against the tide, buddy.

[Asker]

Its not shovelling sand against the tide. Its more like implementing breakwaters to prevent shoreline receding.

[Staximus]

Well the breakwater for the port of Los Angeles has caused the shoreline to recede here, so that's not a good example

[BlueScorpio]

Because people are still catching it wearing a mask or not. I caught it twice and wear mask at work everyday. Plus after 2 years of wearing a mask, you get sick of slowly suffocating yourself for 8 hours or more. Half the time I feel Iike in hyperventilating because of it. I hope this doesn't become a permanent thing and that people will just wear one when they are really sick.

[BlueScorpio]

Plus you really think a tissue paper mask was really going to stop covid? Cause if that was the case it would have stopped spreading a long time ago.

[Asker]

It doesn't stop it... it slows it. How many times do I have to repeat that lol

[BlueScorpio]

Apparently ots not slowing it enough if we're still catching it and it's still spreading. We need heavy duty masks.

[Asker]

I believe 4-ply surgicals or N95s will do, with proper mask fitting. People underestimate the importance of a good fit.

None of those flipping cheapo off-brand masks, i kinda hate those.

[Lynn7dsd]

lol because they are either

a) liberal and bound by their politics

b) of older age

c) around people of older age like elderly parents that live with them or sick people

d) have a disorder like autoimmune?

e) aren't vaccinated or didn't get the booster

f) are around people who are unvaccinated

g) are paranoid and ridiculous

[Lynn7dsd]

Oh sorry; I thought you meant why people still wear masks. People refuse to wear masks for a variety of reasons:
a) they listened to Trump's rhetoric of putting down masks
b) they hate fauci and the democrats... as many of them overreacted with lockdowns and forced mask mandates for 2 years
c) they feel they are young and healthy
d) they are against regulations
e) they dont believe covid is a big deal because they either didn't get it yet or didn't have it as bad

[Asker]

LOL

now everyone is gonna think you are outta your mind

[Asker]

if they dont read the sequel, that is XDD

[exitseven]

democrats made it a thing. All the conflicting rules and the blatant lies and misinformation made the public suspicious of everything. Americans are used to living in a free country and forcing people to take a drug they do not want to take or wear a mask when the people that make these decisions do not wear them was not the way to gain the trust of the public.

[Asker]

y'all have too much freedom. Honestly. Too much freedom does not help

[exitseven]

no, in America we have to live free.

[Asker]

freedom is essential, yes, nobody can argue with that. But there has to be limits exercised on the population to ensure cohesiveness (coming from someone living in a country outside the US), unity and equality for all.

But then again, the US govt is rather ineffective.

[exitseven]

I agree, the government is totally incompetent.

[NaultD]

No object permanence. The same way you play peek a boo with a baby and they are surprised everytime you hide your face. With these adults the thing is everything they see is reality. While everything outsid their point of view at any given moment is a made up simulation.

These people are on the same level as flat earthers.

[TroyDT]

Probably because of the sense of tyranny that now comes with it. A POTUS or governor might have latitude in a unknown emergency, but now we know what we have. We also have local officials making rules that even the CDC or the state says are unwarranted. In California there are guidelines, yet the non-medical doctor in charge of Los Angeles County's Health decided that her word is law, despite the doctors who are running the local hospitals publicly stating that it is unnecessary.

[jshm2]

People are more selfish and stupid than they let on, is all.

It's issues like masks and public health that reveal these idiots for the chromosome short that they are.

[Kingofkings1992]

Actually what’s selfish and stupid is expecting someone to wear a mask or take a vaccine against their own will. People like you make me sick. You are seriously fucked in the head.

[TacticalLizard]

Agreed people really are Stupid All a person needs is to Wait not Have a conversation with them Just wait and they Will make themselves look stupid

[Anonymous]

Last I checked, we have had an entire season of baseball, along with other sports, we had full capacity stadiums last year for football, hockey, basketball with no major outbreaks that were PROMISED by Lord Fauci. It's simple, if you're compromised, wear a mask or stay out of crowds. It's not spread at a noticeable high rate among the healthy.

[Lyndsielee666]

It’s most people tbh. 😂😂 ima keep wearing mine and so are my kids because I care about other people

[HighValue]

Places with higher covid vaccination rates and stricter mask mandates had more infections and deaths.

Masks vs covid are as effective as a chain link fence blocking a sandstorm.

[Asker]

Are you sure about that? Give stats please.

[HighValue]

Also, from the people I have known IRL, the vaccinated ones that wore masks much more are the ones that got sick. I only know one person IRL that was unvaccinated and got sick and it only lasted 3 days for him. 2 of the people I know that were vaccinated have permanent bad side effects and 1 person died from the Pfizer shot in 10 days.

[HighValue]

Compare CA and Florida or Idaho. They had to start transporting in untested illegal immigrants to Florida to start increasing their numbers to make CA not look so bad by comparison.

[Asker]

How about, give percentages, numbers. And compare between countries, not states.

[Apulu_Imback]

Exactly, people are like that is case of wearing mask and taking vaccines. I see few people over here bragging how intelligent they are to avoid mask. Just say that it's uncomfortable to wear instead of making up an controversy.

[Kingofkings1992]

Buddy, you have it ass backwards. You are the stupid one. That little piece of cloth over your face does absolutely nothing but make it more difficult for you to breathe. By all means, continue to wear them and make yourself look like like an idiot.

[Randalama]

There is no demonstrable threat and it is questionable whether there ever was. You are surprised that people won't follow the rules. I'm surprised that they followed them in the first place. Something went seriously wrong in the translation.

[Asker]

Well, thats what happens when you give everyone unlimited freedom, they always cause an uproar when they are made to do something

[Randalama]

What is to be done? I propose a star chamber and social credit passport that governs our behavior. Who sets the standard? Why me, of course! Let me see your papers Jeremy.

[Asker]

You have a point, it has progressed till its literally uncontrollable.

[Randalama]

Yup, it's become a political issue and it turns us against each other. All I ever wanted was a vaccine that works, I'm not anti-science. I'll even vote for Joe and Justin if they can come up with the sweet vaxx. Gonna require a receipt for that shoddy Moderna and Pzizer though.

[Asker]

To be fair, the current vaccines may have been meant as a safeguard against contracting the virus, but it ended up just making the disease less severe in most cases. I myself have received 3 pfizer shots, and it did help me when I was down with COVID. Also, given how little time they had to develop the vaccines and that research is still ongoing, at least they bothered trying.

[Randalama]

All good points you make and I still believe the medicine that was offered us was the best available at the time. I just wish they would have explained it honestly. I"m no rocket scientist but I can understand the purpose of a mRNA symptom blocker. Just be honest in the argument is all I ask.

[DryGermanGuy]

These people have politicized this topic so rabidly to the point that they rather go down with it, Captain Ahab style. Psychologically similar to 2020 election fraud believers or 9/11 truthers. 🤔🙄

[BarryLiverstone]

Because I grew up in a free society that had the flu and cold and countless other risks. However there is value seeing someone’s facial expressions when having a conversation and wearing a mask takes away from that social experience.

[BeMuse]

They're just smarter than you. Nice projection about your low IQ though.