What would you do if you kept on being the victim of a crime and police were unable or unwilling to do anything to stop it?

[Aerissa_Jade]

I think we've all been there for the one off's, but I am strictly referring to repeated offenses, over and over.

Don't get me wrong, I support blue and Blue lives matter but where I live is very rural and a police response is often 90 mins or more out.

Due to being rural and a long time to get a response, what do you do in the meantime?

Obviously for life threatening issues you can defend yourself with lethal force.

What if however, it is something such as bunch of teens who trespass, vandalize your property, break down fences that allow the cattle to get out on to the state highway.

Which if they get hit by a car at that point, you as the owner of the animal is responsible for repairs to the car and injuries to the driver.

You've called the police dozens of times but the trespassers are long since gone before they ever get there. You know WHO they are but they claim they have to catch them in the act as you've confronted them trespassing and they tell you to f off.

When questioned by police, they deny ever trespassing and nothing is ever done.

What would you do after spending thousands on repairs from vandalism, potentially tens of thousands from a cow vs. car accident.

When the law fails or is unable to do anything about any kind of situation where we are taught over and over, to let the law handle it but it utter (udderly 🤣) fails, what would you do to put a stop to it?

You can use my example or one of your own if you've been in this kind of situation, I put this out there because it happened to my parents when I was a young teen. Although there have been other situations for me personally too.

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For those using my example, camera's aren't an option. There is no way to put up camera's to cover 400 + acres, still be useful and affordable.

If it is your house, that would work great.

[lightbulb27]

in that case I'd try the easy, which is put up a camera to catch them and then sue the for damages.

If young kids, can you talk to the parents and will they listen. kids are stupid, they don't understand. make sure they know if happens again, there are consequences. Sadly, fear doesn't deter these kids anymore because negative repercussions have been removed from their training... they don't know what that is. they only know getting a trophy.

All that is a waste of time because if they don't have $, they won't pay and it repeats.

So you post a sign that says trespessors will be prosecuted or shot. you practice shooting out there. maybe they get the hint.

The other option is positive reinforcement... if they are good, you give them cookies or something.

This is going to be a huge problem in the future as kids have been poorly trained, there's a new crop of them being trained now 1st grade on up. I'd divide the country now before too much is lost.

[lightbulb27]

can you talk to these people so they understand the issue? are they reasonable, understand the boundary? I've not had this issue so much.

[Aerissa_Jade]

This is not a current situation, it happened to my parents when I was a tween and my uncle, their farms are next to each other.

Talking to the parents didn't work, they didn't care. Deputies talking to the kids and parents only seemed to make it worse.

Best I can tell, was that they simply grew up and got more mature or got bored of doing it.

[Fuentes]

That's when you break out the leather face mask and the chain Shaw and the plastic cooking gown and start chasing them down hahaha that's what I do if it was abuncha teens messing with my property. Also in California this is a stand your ground state I can legally beat the fuck out if someone and won't be charged for it, if it is infact self defense. I don't have to wait to be hit I just have to feel threatened by your distance.

[Agape93]

If it's anything violent, I'm killing the perp and burying them out here. They'll never find what's left of em.

If it's strictly just annoyances, I'll simply knock the crap out of em or record them and show it to their family and employer or school.

If they're costing me money or the lives or health or safety of my animals, I'm going to put the fear of the divine in them. To use the cattle example you gave, I'll likely knock them out and leave them naked in the woods, or leave them tied up in the enclosure with the bull. Be quiet and still, you'll be fine. Fuck around and you're getting gored, then just bury you out here or feed you to some pigs.

[Agape93]

Been in situations where my neighbors relatives kept scouring up my property with their trucks, broke my fence repeatedly, and tried to hit me and my dogs. Sheriff did nothing but talk to them, same with the regular cops. But it came to an abrupt end when I peppered their truck with bullets. No issues since.

[Agape93]

You?

[Aerissa_Jade]

When it happened to my parents it was a whole group of teens being assholes. Everything they did, including my uncle just made things worse.

I think the teens simply grew up, got mature and stopped. Nothing they actually did got it to stop but I was a tween at the time.

[Agape93]

y'all are more patient than I am

[Sixgunsound]

Until government became nanny, and property owners biurgeois enemies of the revolution, you used to be able to beat their ass till they stopped. I think we need to go back to that route.

[msmissydc]

Actually the case for me. They are often unable to do anything because its either outside of their jurisdiction or they are unable to identify the person behind these online threats. (I dont want to talk about the content of the threats but they are a crime)

What I am doing: Having access to a special part of the police where it doesn't cost me much time to report these mails etc. and just waiting and hoping they can identify some and can do something against them.

[TonyMetal___86]

If such things happens in my property, i'll make sure that these kids pee themselves whenever thinking of doing such acts 🤣

I'm a very nice but also very dangerous, people around me knows that i'm not someone whom they can mess with!

I act politely and try to solve things by a having a nice conversation but if someone insists to hurt me in a way or another, than i have to act and when i act, they won't like it, if they call the police than they will be the ones who will be detained and don't worry about the judge because he will be aware of what happened and will rule by the law!

[ShadezMcgee]

I would make sure to have them dead to rights on cameras that would be posted on my house. Maybe some non lethal weapons like beanbags and paintball for when they decide to come back. Invest in a Dutch shepherd, Belgiam Malinois or Rottweiler

[Fuentes]

Big bad rotties lol

[ShadezMcgee]

@Fuentes when they aren't friendly, anyway lol. Belgian Malinois and Dutch Shepherds are the "I will eat you" dog

[peedy]

First off I would never be a victim of a crime, but if you knock you better make sure i don't get back up because if I do the hunter becomes the hunted it will right right now one way or the other
I am not a victim and do not a victim mentality , I fight back

[peedy]

I tell you a little story decades ago when I was 11 or 12 riding the school bus there was this older boy named Rick everyone call him Rick the dick cause he was dumb ( he was in the special class) and mean because he would pick on and bully littler kids, well he would always sit behind me and hit me in the back of the head until one day I had enough and I stood up spun around and hit him with every i had he had a black eye for 3 weeks and he never hit me or anyone else again and when the bus got to my house and I was walking off the bus driving grabbed my arm and said iv been waiting for you to do that than he let go of my arm patted me on the back and said good job kid, I had the biggest smile in my face the rest day just walking on cloud 9
My point is you gotta stand up for yourself

Kenny Roger- The coward of the county

[OfMiceandMen]

I would set up some extra whipper snapper lines and zap the little shits. Can't help it if they go to cross the property boundary and get zapped, it's to safely contain the livestock?🤔🤠

[NamerOfStars]

Set up cameras, record solid footage, and sue them. Civil courts play by different rules.

Killing people isn't justified unless you don't have a better alternative; how much they annoy you is NOT a relevant factor, and encourage the use of deadly force is going to lead to MORE tragic deaths, not less.

[exitseven]

I have a handgun to defend myself but for other things I imagine I would find out where the kids lived and make an opportunity to talk with them one on one and explain that what he was doing was wrong and why.

[RealMarek]

In your example, I would get a couple rottweilers.

[TotallyAlmost]

At some point you have to take the law into your own hands.

[BCRanger10]

Move to a city or state that's not run by far left psychopaths.

[Guardian45]

Install cameras or drones or

Spot!

[Guardian45]

If cameras are NOT an option then drones are an inexpensive option. Spot would be an expensive, but provide much more intelligent intel!

[Usernamestinks]

Protect yourself. Weapon, dog, training, something

[Rangers]

Kill them, bury them, and don't tell anyone

[melanieeeB]

Move away. I would get the hell out.

[Bklynbadboy12]

I'd take matter into my own hands