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Guns in the hands of responsible who know how to handle them are not dangerous. In Israel nearly everyone is carrying a gun, all trained by the military. Not scary or dangerous at all. Guns in the hands of people who think they can shoot from watching movies and buying ammo at WalMart, now that is terrifying. Guns don’t kill. Irresponsible people kill.
We need to take away their guns. Too many losers like nikolas cruz and the numbers are only increasing. Once we ban guns the schools will be safer like in Finland.
Yes there needs to be safety measures for people with issues, as Cruz had. Will it stop all murders? No but stats wise we have 30,000 gun deaths a year. All of Europe has less than 500.
Cruz was mentally stable and was able to work a job handle and aim a gun. He was pretending to hear voices in his interview. There is difference between mentally ill and being crazy. A crazy person does not care who they hurt. A mentally ill person takes has issues and are working trying to work through them. Most mentally ill people are harmless. So we need to remove guns.
I did see that interrogation on Jim Can’t Swim. That cop was genius. Obvious dad too. Didn’t take crap.
bernie madoff did not even cry when his son ended his life and he did not even care about it either. bernie madoff is a crazy person who knows what he was doing was wrong horrible. Same with Cruz. They are both crazy there is underling mental illness.
Mental illness is when someone is struggling with life and wants to get better. I do not view Cruz as mentally ill because he knew exactly what he was doing same as madoff. Madoff destorys peoples lives and for what? His son died because of his dumb choices. And madoff does not care madoff poked fun of one of his clients who ended their life.
To me knowing what you are doing is wrong and still doing it is a crazy person.
I have a mobile safe space tucked under my arm.
Not according stats. But I have no issue with people having guns. I just want to make it harder. You guys should want that too. Instead of banning all guns- which neither of us want.
Very much according to stats. I've shot more people than have shot me. That's statistically demonstrated.
I think guns are hard enough to get on paper. Whether or not we adhere to that is a different story. "Rape laws keep women safe." I mean... yeah... moreso than not having them, but too many people missed that memo and still do it. Or at least try.
I think gun crimes should come with higher sentencing and I think gang related crimes should go back to 3 strikes. That'd clear up most of the gun crimes. I honestly don't care about school shootings. Despite what the media would lead us to believe the likelihood of being in one is too small for my give a shiz meter to jiggle. I'm far more likely to be caught in the middle of a driveby. Statistically speaking, and because I have actually been in a driveby and not a school shooting. I also think we need to go back to where we could call a crazy a crazy and involuntarily commit people that have no business being around a pointy stick, much less a firearm.
Nationwide there were 51 school shootings and 140 killed or injured in 2022. Chicago topped 600 homicides and 2,600 shootings in 2022. You let your kids go to the Jazz Museum in downtown KC? They're more likely to get shot looking for parking there. Our courts are a joke, our prosecutors are inept and the U. S. prison system as a whole is better than a lot of places I've stayed at by choice.
Thousands of guns in my family tree and not one has illegally killed anyone, but we've got junior high schoolers talking about how hard they are cause they smoked somebody wearing the wrong colors. Sorry, the guy going through the 10 second FBI check at the gunshow just isn't my biggest worry when it comes to gun violence in the U. S.
Well said Beep!
We actually can and do involuntarily commit people, but more often than not there is no place to put them because there is no money for this mostly.
@msc545 well, yes, but if there's no money there's no problem right? We'll just pretend like it doesn't exist, don't fund it and see what happens. Or we'll inefficiently fund it so it costs three times as much and does half as much good. That's government for ya
Yup. We have a PET team that has hours 9-5 M-F with an hour off for lunch. They do not answer the phone most days.
Guess what hours most psychiatric emergencies occur?
Thanks for your perspective, Boop.
I don't have the same experiences as you do, but I'm agreement with you.
@msc545 See that's why people don't like crazy people. They are just inconsiderate. If you're going to have a psychotic break/schizo episode, the least you could do is have it in banking hours. Jeez.
Exactly. It's very inconsiderate to have psychiatric issues when people that can help you are on their break or have already gone home from work. You would think people could wait to the next day.
@msc545 Or in these municipalities where they have "specially trained intervention people" which is like... as social worker who saw an extra power point presentation... I know because they tried to make my mom one (the difference was literally one day of training with a power point slide)... and there's like 4 in the county, so you gotta spend an hour trying to find one, then they have to drive there, another hour, then they have to get body armor and get briefed on what's what and get started, another hour... make sure you have your crisis in slow motion or give a call a few hours BEFORE you have one so people can get spun up properly
I am going to post this in a lot of places because it is being censored and fuck the mods for not doing anything about it.
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Also, that person has had little or no training in which case they are incompetent, OR they have had literally years of training in which case they are too expensive.
Also, they need to have lunch before they deploy to whatever problem there is.
@msc545 Yep go government. My mom was like "what drugs are you on thinking I'm going to do this as a single mother"... and there wasn't even additional pay involved... just... something to put on your resume I guess. Or tombstone. The lady who replaced her was gangraped in a stash house.
If someone is trained, they know enough to never take a job like this. I have straight-up turned down stuff like this several times because I know better, fortunately.
I'm glad your mom knew better too!
@msc545 Yeah my mom's never been one to take the advice of dumb. THe other lady was nice, but she was one of those "always do what the boss says and don't question it" types of people... pity where that got her...
That is very sad. The people that encouraged her should be sued, and also be ashamed.
I think guns make things more dangerous on average. The problem is how to get rid of them with so many in circulation.
Anywhere from 3-40,000,000 Americans ignored the ATF’s rule on Pistol Braces and became felons on June 1st. Even if laws are passed, I don’t see the enforcement going well.
^^^^^
Politicians aren't killed with guns because they have armed security.
If doctors where killed as often as babies being aborted, all state would outlaw abortion that is being used as birth control. Since there are so many ways ro stop getting pregnant. Should only have e reason to have an abortion.
If more people legally carried guns, bad people would be stopped. Mass gun killing is a mental issue. And safe zones don't work. Owning a gun is a God given right, and a constitutional one. Even the Bible. Let the one whom has no sword sell his cloak and buy one Luke 22. Evil will be done by evil people, and good people can stop them
Good image. Great line. I would think so but like Joel here, gunnuts sincerely think they make you safer. And politicians love the money from gun companies.
@OddBeMe so why else does your smooth brain believe that politicians and celebrities have armed security? Why does your bank have armed security?
@gorydetails and if a gunfight ensues…would these security guys be more safe or the criminals in more danger? No. Statistics have gun trained cops hitting targets at less than 30% during gun fights.
Look at all those fckin armed men…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y5wLFeYB24
you had to reach all the way back 42 years... good job.
@gorydetails thanks. Are you saying crime dropped because of guns? That’s a bold claim. And clearly false. But proceed.
What is the % of gun ownership vs. guns used in crime?
@gorydetails don’t know but probably small ratio. Still kills 30,000 people a year.
You should maybe not be ignorant if you're advocating a position.
It's how they keep the population down and insurance costs high.
We’re killing the wrong people. Educated inspired kids
Why don't we outlaw cars, alcohol, swimming pools, and cigarettes first.
See, you are not really about saving lives, you are about imposing an agenda.
You really think there is such a thing as safe spaces? You do realize safety is an illusion, right?
In dumbass absolutist terms? No. But like Europe, we can cut our gun death rate from 30k a year down to hundreds like them.
That's never going to happen in America.
First off, our culture and some families still rely on firearms to hunt for food.
Second of all, the second amendment was made for a really good reason.
Third off, there are three guns for every person. You want to try and confiscate that without a war? Good fucking luck.
Those dumbasses in Europe also make up for that with knives and acid attacks.
How many die in knife attacks compared to gun attacks?
All of Europe is dangerous as a whole still. You can get kidnapped and so on, so focusing only on knives isn't the way.
And it's the gangs in the USA, obviously.
Dodge. And no where is as dangerous as the US.
Again, that's because of gangsters. Crack down HARD on them.
I am going to post this in a lot of places because it is being censored and fuck the mods for not doing anything about it.
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Violence is part of American DNA much the same as the UK
Banning guns will slow down the deaths sure but not stop them just turn to knives and cars or terrorism such as explosives and sarin gas
That’s stupid. Not possible. We have more guns here than people. And very easy access.
What banning guns is impossible, rare to hear a liberal admit that
Banning guns all together. What did banning alcohol do in the 1930s?
Fathered NASCAR, built Las Vegas and bought the Kennedys to the plate
So it stopped the flow of liquor int9t he US?
Not at all, increased probably 100fold
So 100% prohibition doesn’t work but 50/50 is pretty good.
You're not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, are you? You think that guy went and bought that gun at the gun store? Right.
Low-cost 3D printing makes guns easily accessible regardless of legal restrictions.
Without guns, how do you expect to stop totalitarian government?
You know its coming
No, I just purchased firearms a year ago and after I learned to shoot I feel a lot safer in my home.
Sounds like a "safe space" for criminals to target people whom they know are not armed.
Allright, restrict gun access to the type of peopld SJWs claims need them to defend themself.
I don’t know what this rambling means. Sjws are more afraid of a partner abusing them and killing them.
What it means is that there are some people sjws claims need guns to protect themself. You want to restrict guns, fine by me, restrict them for those people sjws claims need them.
Yea restrict them for fcks who would do harm. Agreed!
Chose B, but I am more neutral. But I shouldn't have my rights and freedoms curtailed just because someone did something vile. I did nothing wrong
Give a gun to every sane adult person. Hope ðe people would þink twice before firing ðe weapon!
Schools are a gun free zone.
I'm crazy for my freedom.
What about all those "gun free zones?" LMFAO!