Do you agree that USA is a third world country?

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like if you keep looking at influencers and movies, what you mostly see is entitled wealthy people. not the "average" person.

if you look at living conditions outside of the very few rich areas, you see a lot of homelessness. people living in their cars, not even able to afford mc donalds.

Do you agree that USA is a third world country?

and a good chunk of the people that aren't technically homeless live in third world like poor living conditions.
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usa now has 300 trillion worth in debt. meanwhile it only has around 270 trillion net worth in assets. it's currently running 30 billion in new debt annually and only has a gdp of 23,3 billions. so it's factually financially a bankrupt failed state at this point.

average American income is 2500$ a month. average rent is 1300$. Average spendings for groceries is 450$. average cost of mobility (car) is 554$ a month. so that's roughly 200 bucks left. subtract cost for clothing which comes down to roughly 150$ a month on average, another like 100 bucks for mobile phone/internet plans, 100$ for heating, 110$ for electric... and that doesn't even include anything they spend on recreation/entertainment or any sort of medical/insurance spendings. so the average American citizen lives at AT LEAST a -260$ deficite a month.

plus usa is starting another war with some nation every other year, which is quite typical for these 3rd world countries lead by mobsters, cult leaders and warlords.

so really. is there an argument against the USA being a 3rd world country at this point?

WhiteBoyChill · Accepted Answer

“if you look at living conditions outside of the very few rich areas, you see a lot of homelessness.”

Not for nothing but you don’t see “a lot of homeless” outside of major cities. Even in the most poor areas, you’d be hard pressed to find a homeless person, unless its in a major city.

”and a good chunk of the people that aren't technically homeless live in third world like poor living conditions.”

And that part is true, but its only true for certain regions of the country. By and large, it is only the “deep South” states like Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas and Louisiana as well as West Virginia and parts of Kentucky that tend to have this problem. As well as obviously certain cities in poor, mostly non-white areas.

But the lack of job opportunities and investment is the main reason for this circumstance.

Also the places I mentioned, do not form a majority of the country, or a majority of the country’s population.

Most Americans live decently well. Even if it is a struggle for many to afford rent and things like that. I’m not saying the US is “easier living” than Europe, but it is by no means comparable to South Africa, or places like Nigeria.

”usa now has 300 trillion worth in debt. meanwhile it only has around 270 trillion”.

Also your figures are way off.

The US is only around like 32 trillion in debt, which still isn’t fantastic, considering its over 150% of GDP, with 75% being considered a healthy level, but there are western countries like Greece and Japan that still have higher debt to GDP ratios. It is of course still possible to avoid economic collapse if we try and make budget cuts and reduce spending, as Republicans would like to do.

As for the whole Average American income thing you put out, that is also off. Not sure where your stats are from but according to the US Bureau of Labor, average median US income is roughly $1000 a week or $4000 a month. Which is still more than in many, if not most European countries. I’m not sure how having a higher average income than the average country itself in the world, equates to being “third world” https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat39.htm

As for why our country starts wars, that is precisely because we are competing for global influence and want other countries to adopt our model. However Trump was the first president in 20 years to NOT START another war. And Biden might very well seeing as how things are with the whole Taiwan situation.

Leapfrog00 · Accepted Answer

I've been to a lot of places, and homelessness is a serious problem. I was homeless last year. These rich assholes make me sick. I volunteered at a homeless shelter, and what most people don't know, a lot of those shelters (Not all of them) have wealthy people run them, and the money the volunteers make goes to the wealthy to use for "Donations", but in reality, they are taking their family on a cruise or buying themselves a new car.

Every 1 out of 4 people in the United States is homeless, and every year the number of homeless people jump up. I started a book on my experiences and did some research, so I can release facts as well.

The really sad part, and I mean really sad part is that most people don't think it's that big of a problem. I encourage anyone that doesn't believe it's that big of a problem to go to any city and talk to the homeless people. They are A LOT more intelligent that people think! And it can happen to anyone.

I used to have a great job, lots of friends, and a girlfriend. One day I was diagnosed with diabetes, hospitalized for weeks because of complications, and that's all it took. No employer is going to keep you on the payroll if you're lying in a hospital bed hooked up to machines, too sick to call in.

The United States though, it's definitely slipping. Over a half a million people in the U. S are homeless. 35% can't even find shelter. A half a million might seem like a small number, but try fitting that many people in a room.

The average single person has to make $21 an hour just to get by. I believe your numbers are correct up there, and people who argue with that have NO clue what shit cost. Not all of us can work 40 an hour week jobs making $50,000 a year. I can't even afford to buy food and I'm a diabetic, always sick, my numbers are always too high or too low, I take insulin 6 times a day, and I'm still expected to work.

Yeah, the U. S is done for sure!

erandal · Accepted Answer

I was fortunate to visit several African countries as part of a work project to provide drinking water and solar power to remote communities. After seeing how people live there I truly understand what is meant by 'third world'. The US, even the poorest of communities, is not it.

It is useful to understand how the term 'thjird world' came about. It arose during the Cold War and it was used to define countries that remained non-aligned with either NATO or the Warsaw Pact. The United States, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Western European nations and their allies represented the "First World", while the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam and their allies represented the "Second World". This terminology provided a way of broadly categorizing the nations of the Earth into three groups based on political divisions. Due to the complex history of evolving meanings and contexts, there is no clear or agreed-upon definition of the Third World. Strictly speaking, "Third World" was a political, rather than an economic, grouping.

Because many Third World countries were economically poor and non-industrialized, it became a stereotype to refer to developing countries as "third world countries".

WilmaReportu · Accepted Answer

I am offended by your assertion that the United States is a third world country. That statement serves to deliberately belittle our nation and its accomplishments, and it is completely unacceptable.

It is my right as a woman to speak up in defense of my nation and all that it has achieved, and I will not stay silent in the face of such an offensive and ignorant statement. I understand the freedom of expression, but by making this statement you have crossed the line and created an environment of hurt and disrespect.

Therefore, I am formally reporting this and will demand action be taken to ensure that such comments are not uttered in future. I am not asking for an apology, but it is essential that your remarks be addressed and that you are held accountable for distorting the truth in such an outrageously incorrect way.

I am confident that our nation's greatness can speak for itself, and I refuse to accept the implication that we are anything other than a world leader. Thankfully, our laws and regulations will protect citizens like myself from such blatant ignorance.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

I don't argue with people who are obvious ideologues.

Avicenna · Answer

It's an interesting question, but the US is not at that point yet simply because poverty in the US is not the same as poverty in countries that are truly third world.

Sure, homelessness is a big problem in the US, but the poor in the US overall have a much better standard of living than poor in third world countries do.

The points you make about rapacious elites are on point, though. US elites have looked longingly at their third world elite counterparts and wanted to have a similar system in the US (which they are busy implementing).

ohsheeT · Answer

Our economy wise yes I also agree that every country is now a third world country economy wise it was meant to be that way it was programmed to be that way it was manipulated to be that way our government has sold us out we the people are the ones that make our country run we the government and our military is still pretty strong but they want to take away our strength the people strength by doing what they have been doing and then they're going to depend on us to fight for them to fight for our country because we are proud Americans and it will be a different type of warfare anyway so they can control us and try to control other countries well let's just see how it plays out

inhua · Answer

most of the USA would be 3rd world country if you strip away the entertainment and liberals new media propaganda. plenty of crime, broken families, homelessness, starving kids plus a huge inequality gap between the wealthy vs poor, the attractive vs the ugly, the famous vs the bottom feeders etc.

NaultD · Answer

No.

We are the single greatest country to ever exist. We are of the people by the the people. With that in mind there is a fuck ton of problems but that is the will of the voting population. Our average citizens can control the entire world. For better or worse.

As much as we love to make people suffer we have as much power to make lifes better. It's 100% of the American people.

monorprise · Answer

You numbers are off, because soo many people don't have their own home, and thus either bumb off someone who makes more money or share the cost of theses things with them.

There are sill places you can rent for 800 or less.

That said many places in the USA are unaffordable, and some are almost 3rd world

WindAtMyBack · Answer

Only an idiot would think it's a third world country. It's about as first world as you can get. Yea, it's going downhill, but it's starting at a very high place and would have a hell of a long way to get to third world status. That ain't gonna happen in the foreseeable future.

exitseven · Answer

It is not there yet but will be within ten years. The demographic with thr biggest rise in homelessness are people over 55. Most companies discontinued defined retirement plans and over the years the returns on investment in the stock market really was not there. Most people were not able to save enough on their own to retire. Older Americans are ending up on the street in record numbers and will only get worse once more people age out of the workforce.

Anonymous · Answer

Yes I agree we are becoming more and more like a Latin American country, where there is mainly a two class society the rich and the poor. The middle class is slowly disappearing. 5% of the population owns 90% of the wealth, the rich and corporations do not pay enough taxes. No universal health care. The goverment constantly deficit spends. Out of control capitalism. Yes we are just like a third world country.

OddBeMe · Answer

In some respects we are. Of course it matters by what metrics you use. Which is why in most graphics by economists the US is still technically #1.

But we imprison more of our citizens than any other “first world” country.
Socio-economic climbing is easier in most other first world countries. Which is what we market ourselves as, isn’t it? France is literally better at the American dream than the US.

lightbulb27 · Answer

Parts of it are going to H and pathetic. We spend too much on military/war, garbage media and food and cultural poisons... and the people suffer. God help us... 3rd world, not so sure about that...

BoopBoopBeep · Answer

Many of our "poor" make more than a fifth of the world. World data dot com has the US as the 7th highest average income. Anybody who thinks they're poor here hasn't traveled much (duh... because they're poor).

AviatorTom · Answer

Not in the normal sense of third world.

Since Africa and Eurasia were settled by humans first, one might be justified in calling the Americas (North, Central and South America) the "third world" that was settled.

John_Doesnt · Answer

No healthcare, over %1 of the population is in prison, over %4 of death row inmates are innocent, children are more likely to die from getting shot. Yes, America is a third world hell hole.

LaFemmeFatale_1 · Answer

What I like about China is that in my former city there are 13 million people living, in a new city 30 million people and I haven’t met a single homeless person yet.

LiamJHayden · Answer

Those numbers are wildly off. Actual debt is about $32.4T, not $300T. Last year's deficit was $1.4T not $30B. And GDP in 2022 was more than $25.4T, not $23.3B, which is the US GDP for about  eight hours .

Likes2drive · Answer

It’s definitely getting there if something isn’t done it will be that, it’s pretty much rich and poor and almost no middle class and soon won’t be any at least where I am

Dargil · Answer

Not yet, but wait 10 years under Socialist/Communist rule.

AngryCarl2 · Answer

Let's see... failing infrastructure, corruption, collapse of law and order, widespread poverty... yep, it all checks out.

Meropatrick · Answer

Without waging a war every now and then it would be soon

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