Is the war on drugs what killed support for Republicans among black people? If so, why did it not have the same effect among support for Democrats?

[WhiteBoyChill]

First I’d just like to say that Donald Trump is literally the only Republican in recent history that I actually support.

Bush was corrupt. Started pointless wars. Ballooned the national debt. All in the interest of mega corporations and not the American citizen.

Reagan was also a neocon and globalist. He sold our soul to China. He was a big believer in free trade. He was all tough guy talk on the Soviet Union, but he didn’t actually contribute to their collapse or do basically anything useful. The Soviet Union collapsed merely because they mutually assured their own destruction through their own failed policies.

Also Nixon was a crook obviously. With the whole WaterGate scandal.

So who does that leave? Donald Trump being the only good Republican/politician in recent history?

Eisenhower might’ve been ok, though I’m not informed enough to make a call conclusively.

As I mentioned in my other post though, Trump actually did things for black people. Criminal justice reform, pardoning people with unreasonable sentences, opportunity zones, record low poverty and unemployment, etc.

But getting back to my earlier point though, I do suspect the War on Drugs is what must have killed support from black people among Republicans.

But then again, that also doesn’t explain how Democrats still retained their support among black people.

Since Democrats themselves did play a role in the War on Drugs as well.

Bill Clinton signed the 94 Crime Bill, Biden played a key role in sponsoring the legislation and drafting it up.

Not to mention the War on Drugs was almost predominantly carried out by local Police Departments and city councils, not federal DEA agents.

Meaning that Democrats were still just as guilty, if not more, of mass incarcerating at their directive.

[Jersey2]

Bush, W, wanted to be a war president… disgusting ego got many people killed. But the CIA shares in that since they brought forward some complete BS from a conman about weapons of mass destruction. That conman only wanted money and faked information that was used to start a series of attacks and a major war.

Bush, H, is responsible for China. He was the ambassador there before being president and started us out on a bad footing. Reagan had nothing to do with China and was better than Trump even as Reagan won his second term with 49 states so he had the people behind him.

Black people, black men in particular, are starting to see what works, conservative ideas. At least 1 in 10 voted Republican and to me thats a lot as 1 in 10 you pass on the street sees things much as I do. Hispanics are bigger supporters and that is very helpful as well.

People will have to make a choice if they want a strong economy or not. Vote Trump you do and the other guy if you want more of whats happening today. I will vote DeSantis but he will lose and then I will vote Trump again.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Why vote for Desanctimonius at all though if he’s a complete backstabber? Its an act of disloyalty seeing as Trump literally got the man his job in Florida

[Jersey2]

I like him. I like Trump too. Some independents won’t vote for Trump and that could cost the election.

[WhiteBoyChill]

I guarantee you. A lot more independents wouldn’t vote for Biden though.

Have you seen Biden’s support among Independents?

[WhiteBoyChill]

My point being, do not buy into the electability narrative. Numerous polls have shown Trump does indeed have sufficient backing

[exitseven]

@WhiteBoyChill democrats are pushing the narrative that they want Trump to run because he cannot possible beat Biden. They are doing everything they can to keep him for running. I bet that he is indicted at least 6 times before they are through. Why would they do that if they were not scared that Trump will be re elected. ? And Trump already has said he will hire a REAL special prosecutor to investigate the Bidens.

[Jersey2]

@exitseven I think the Independent voters can see through this now as well. Its a political hit job.

[exitseven]

LBJ started the war on poverty and began the formation of a permanent welfare class. Paying people to stay home and have illegitimate children made millions dependent on the government and democrats promised more welfare and useless social programs.
In reality they are keeping black people stuck in communities with sub standard schools and by now that there are DAs that do not prosecute drug or theft crimes the communities have become war zones.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Exactly. Their failed policies are literally hurting black people

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[Anonymous]

The war on drugs might’ve been part of it but it’s the entire package. Also, GOP opposition to affirmative action. Opposition to civil rights in general. Voter ID laws that disproportionately affect minorities. Gerrymandering that purposely dilutes the minority vote. Racist rhetoric that goes unchallenged within the party. Many black voters have conservative views but how do you vote for a party with obvious racist motives, even if they throw you the occasional bone?

[WhiteBoyChill]

How is the party platform itself racist? Also didn’t the Dems oppose Civil Rights while Republicans overwhelmingly supported it?

[Opinion Owner]

That was somewhat true if you go back to the pre-civil rights era. For the past 50-60 years, it’s been the democrats who have championed civil rights and equality, affirmative action, expansion of voting rights, income equality, etc. The GOP time and time again opposes anything that benefits minorities. If you don’t understand the racist motives behind their actions today, I can’t really help you. It’s there for anyone who cares to look.

[WhiteBoyChill]

So in other words, black people don’t support Republicans simply because we don’t court them or pander to them.

And yeah, I have no idea where you’re coming from either. BLM especially hasn’t helped black people. And neither does telling them to victimize themselves, and neither does preaching the narrative of oppressors vs the oppressed help either

[BoopBoopBeep]

"Voter ID laws disproportionately affect minorities" is inherently a racist statement. Turns out minorities know how to get ID cards. Turns out the ones that don't have one, don't care to have one, wouldn't be voting anyway, and if they wanted to, they could get one. Go ask 50 of them if they have ID. Assuming you can brave being "over there." I've lived across the street from one of the toughest projects in the south and I can assure you that people have ID cards, black or white or anything else, no matter how poor they are, or they just flat out don't care to have one, do nothing in society, and shouldn't be voting. Can't get a job OR government assistance without an ID card, so literally what are you doing all day? It's only white people that think that. Black folk aren't walking around going "where does I gets me an ID card massah?" Stop treating non-whites like some sort of halfway retarded subspecies and there'd be a lot more support for your positions amongst those same non-whites you want to "save."

[Opinion Owner]

Justify your racism all you want boys. People see right through it.

[WhiteBoyChill]

What racism do I have?

[BoopBoopBeep]

No, you telling me that nobody in my house can get an ID is racist.

[chrissykerdock]

American history in a nutshell well now we have real problems... we have a dictatorship and doesn't look like they're going to relent... america had it's problems fixed but they went right back to the corruption because that's what the rich want.

[RainbowMarinade]

So what you’re saying is, you didn’t support any politicians before you were born? Well okay 👍

[WhiteBoyChill]

Yes, but also I don’t think any of them were any good either. Trump is like the only decent politician in modern history

[RainbowMarinade]

“Trump is like the only decent politician in modern history.”
So much about the man and his history has to be ignored if you want to believe this statement is true.

[WhiteBoyChill]

He did good things for the American people. I could care less about his manners or personal life

[RainbowMarinade]

I agree about the personal life thing. Stormy, for example, is an issue between him and his wife.
However, his history tells a story of a man who has trampled other people for the almighty dollar. He has used his riches to steamroll people who didn’t have the ability to fight back.
How can you put your trust in someone who has proven time and again that he puts his own best interest above all others. I bet you believe he’s a victim of a weaponized government, because you have been told “the only decent politician in modern history.” However, given how self-serving he has always been, none of the accusations against really seem out of the realm of possibilities.
But you have to look at the whole picture in order to see any of that.

[WhiteBoyChill]

His presidency was anything but self-serving though. He was relentlessly attacked day in and day out, yet he still delivered for people.

[SmokinAces2000]

I don’t see republicans getting the majority black vote anytime in the next few decades because they are blatantly racist and oppose anything that benefits black people.

[WhiteBoyChill]

How are they blatantly racist and opposing anything that benefits black people?

[WhiteBoyChill]

Isn’t it Democrats who oppose school choice, while Republicans overwhelmingly support it?

Do you even realize the extent to which education is important to personal development? It is probably among the most important factors in a person’s life to determining their success.

[WhiteBoyChill]

And who exactly is it that has been consistently depriving black communities and schools of funding for decades?

[Anonymous]

Welfare. The way the welfare system works is that they take a chunk in tax with one hand and give little back with the other.

[Taffy1234]

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