Do you believe that if someone is not a feminist it must mean they think men should have more rights and opportunities than women?

[CriticalCatDad123]

“To say you’re not a feminist means that you think men should have more rights and opportunities than Women.” - Taylor Swift

Yes

No

[Simslover92]

No of course not. Ugh this is why I hate Taylor Swift and her comment just fueled my hate even more for her.

[Simslover92]

She needs to just keep doing what she does and that's sing.

[CriticalCatDad123]

Her singing is part of the problem. Music brings fans and fans go to concerts and all those fans are being told to vote democrat so that they’ll enact more benefits rights and privileges for bad women to benefit from while men have to cope and deal and live for said women 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Simslover92]

Yeah that's true which is just unfortunate for people who are trying to be against the movement she's going for.

[LaurenM1997]

I believe it’s only fair they only both have rights

[LaurenM1997]

And opportunities I forgot to add that

[Effably]

Textbook? Feminism is about promoting equality.

Reality? It has been misused too much as a political media platform in the past and most people are tired of the gender war rethoric it practiced.

So I will make the counterpoint that if you genuinely care about equality you will not use the moniker of feminism but simply say equality, or egalitarian. That way your intent won't be lost in some decade old hate war propaganda and nearly every single person will agree. It comes down to what matters more: Equality or calling it feminism?

[Summeroflove]

No… Most feminists want more rights then men. I believe in equal rights bur feminists are so entitled. Especially when they go into workplaces demanding the same pay as people who been there for decades. Taylor Swift is such a idiot and Disingenuous it’s not even funny.

She is a professional victim. That’s all she is. She makes billions of dollars and cries about how sexist thinfs are.

[madgoat]

It hopefully means that you are capable of defining your own values and don't need a 'personality' to determine them for you.

[mandyfire98]

Feminism is a collection of socio-political movements and ideologies that aim to establish the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes.

So if you are against that goal then...

Now you can be against some of the more radical forms that have spun off but the actual definition of feminism.

I don't see how you could not be on board with unless you want women to not be viewed and treated as equals.

[CriticalCatDad123]

“Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage.” - Sheila Cronin, leader of feminist organization 🤨

[BarryLiverstone]

Mandy clearly said some forms are radical. So why reply with a radical quote?

[mandyfire98]

I did say radical feminism was a thing. I also said the core definition of feminism is equality of the sexes. I did list that I believe. So to say that feminism by definition is wrong then you are against the equality of the genders.

So @BarryLiverstone is correct

[mandyfire98]

Sheila Cronin was a leader of one group that claims feminism. She's also not the president of that group either. Christian Nunes is.

So yeah some members have more radical views on feminism. Most do not. That's why they're radical because they go against the grain. Do you believe equality isn't important? If the feminist movement goes away then what should pop up In it's place to fight for equal opportunities and treatment amongst the genders? Or should women just shit their mouths and just take what they're allowed and deal with it? 🤔

[mandyfire98]

*shut

[CriticalCatDad123]

I’d rather be against the equality of the genders than for something that pretends to be for something it’s clearly not.

[mandyfire98]

Lol. Ok got it. All feminism is bad and shouldn't exist at all. Women should just be secondary to men. Just don't even point out any inequality at all. Just stop talking about it. Just let it be.

Ok understood. I mean to be fair you're not the only guy that thinks that way. Thag thinks it's all just evil and bad and people shouldn't even follow any of it at all. It's gotta have some type of name. If it doesn't have a name at all then there's nothing to follow and it doesn't get attention. The solution isn't just, be silent about it. It deserves attention. There is inequality of the genders it's a fact no matter how many manosphere redpill incel types claim it's all a lie and women actually have more than men. It's gaslighting at the end of the day. So tell us what this new movement should be called that focuses on inequality between men and women? We are all ears.

Just stop talking about it isn't a solution either. One way or another everything will be equal. We'll all be on the same level. You're not gonna silence it. There won't ever be a western Taliban.

So why don't you present us all with the solution. Since you hate the word feminism. Now remember you still have to focus on the problem at hand. So none of that "all lives matter thing" there still needs to be focus on women's inequality in society. So I'm eager for this new philosophy. But every group no matter the intention will have radicals. Like the men's rights movement has incels and redpill guys who make men look horrible too. So every group suffers from radical voices.

[CriticalCatDad123]

Egalitarian movement?

Things won’t be equal. Women are already equal to men and they just want more and more. To then there is no end point.

[BarryLiverstone]

Women have less rights than men, they are not equal

[mandyfire98]

You're full of shit. To state that women aren't still treated differently than men in places like the workforce or in society as a whole. You need to talk to more women lol. We are not treated the same.

Out of one side of your mouth you say things will never be equal then you say oh but women are treated equally, women just want all the power.

Which is it? Your argument is falling apart rapidly.

You might need to go watch some more andrew tate videos and come back with more silly redpill "facts"

By the way I've seen some of your other questions and replies and it really does seem like you have an odd resentment and obsession with women who aren't the type to worship men and just stay at home and know their place.

You seem to really not like this whole equality idea at all. The evidence is all over GAG. My advice, get off the internet and touch grass for a bit. Constantly getting online and looking up anti-women videos and redpill stuff is really turning you hateful. Calm down and breathe and go watch something funny. Learn a new hobby. The evil feminist isn't outside your door coming to get you or ruin your life. I promise.

[CriticalCatDad123]

Alright, well, if you two want to believe and follow such a corrupt movement, that’s your choice. Personally I’d rather not subscribe to something so corrupt. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[CriticalCatDad123]

@Simslover92

[mandyfire98]

Yeah we'll be corrupt believing in equality. What a horrid rancid corrupt belief. 👍

[Simslover92]

@mandyfire98 he's right though. Feminism has become destructive and a huge issue. Just the fact that Taylor Swift can make such a statement and no one bats an eyelash at it is telling in and of itself. Nearly one in four Gen Z men say they have experienced discrimination or were subject to mistreatment simply because they were men, a rate far greater than older men. For young men, social isolation and feelings of alienation are increasingly common experiences that rarely receive constructive discussion. When people have conversations about feminism, they rarely touch on toxic feminism, mostly because most people do not view it as a problem. We often talk about toxic masculinity but rarely is toxic femininity talked about and what Taylor Swift said was toxic af. I would so be for feminism if it wasn't for the fact that so many men especially young men are not heard in society today. They're issues are being overshadowed by women's issues.

[normalice]

To not at least wish things change is to wish things stay as they are, yes.

[BarryLiverstone]

Yep and women still have less rights than men in 2024… so we need to be better

[HelpfulWoman]

i mean, anybody who actually wants equality for the genders (on applicable things) is technically a feminist.

[mandyfire98]

Check out his other questions and replies. He just wants to hear "women bad" too many redpills swallowed I'm afraid.

[HelpfulWoman]

@mandyfire98 dude has trump for his banner. it tells me all i need to know XD

[mandyfire98]

Not just trump but a banner that basically worships the man. Who worships politicians? That's a little crazy in my book.

[Dargil]

What's wrong with equal rights?

[strateguy632]

i don't

[BarryLiverstone]

Yes that’s logical