One of the big stories in the UK yesterday is of a mental patient on a day trip to a zoo who picked up a random 3 year old and threw him to the crocodiles. It didn't end well.
But who is to blame? The mental patient, his handler, or the child's parents for not watching their kid?
I blame the doctors who allowed him to be in public.
It made news on X yesterday. X seems great for sharing local news fast. People are wondering if it was an immigrant as the government won’t release a name or description. The British government has lost all credibility and this is a symptom of it even if it turns out it is a local with mental illness. If the government were consistently truthful, they wouldn't have to take away VPNs, Free Speech and anonymity from people.
As I understand it, it is a family run business. Now they will need to raise the barriers and other nonsense.
@Iron_Man The child was attacked by at least one crocodile. He was in critical condition but may be doing better now based on one report. Just horrible.
Nowadays it’s a different ball game. If someone gets shot guns take the blame.
So in this case you have to blame it on the crocodile & if you want you can blame it on the zoo because the enclosure housing the crocodile wasn’t high enough.
The mental patient walks away & goes back to the bus to eat crayons & licks the windows.
The blame is actually on whatever is politically expedient... Knife crime up 300%? Time to ban guns anyway. In this case, was the retard a minority? The parents minorities? Gotta consult the
Injured. Poor crocks didn't get their happy meal. Everyone is a little bit responsible. Even doctors of this mental patient who let them out on humanity and zoo that doesn't isolate such animals enough from the public. However the child has to pay the price for incompetency of everyone, depending on injuries. On the other hand, my way of thinking applies only for homogenous white societies, UK isn't one and skin color of victim and perpetrator is significant to figure out who is to blame.
Responsibility is not an indivisible monolith. The parents should have better supervised a three year old child, but the handler should not have allowed the patient to touch the child. And the mental patient obviously bears responsibility, unless he is so ill that he truly doesn't know that what he did was wrong - and if he's that crazy, he shouldn't have been taken out in public.
The , mental patient is responsible. Having said that, I'm sure the boy's parents are upset with themselves about not watching him more closely.
The hero in the story is the wife of the zoo's owner, who jumped into the enclosure to try to save the boy. Last I hears, he is in critical condition in hospital. I pray he survives.
On a global scale, mental illnesses aren't random unless biological, it's societally fabricated by all of us because we are society, so it's everyone's problem to handle the causes of these illnesses in a better way.
On a local scale, this demonstrates the zoo's failing at safety measures.
The nurses in question are already traumatized and, if not, they should quit the job asap.
There's no way we can protect 100% of people against anyone unhinged, hospitalised or not.
There's no ethically justifiable reason to lock mental patients in more than they already are.
There's no way specialized nurses can be 100% aware of everything 24/7.
There really is a way to inject more cash in hospitals to get more nurses
Our MAGA filth would say it was the kid's fault. He should have armed himself if he was gonna go stare at dangerous animals. A good kid with a gun could have blown that mental patient to hell. Why isn't everyone in the UK doing concealed carry. It would be a lot safer if 50 marginally trained people opened fire in a public zoo.
That's some serious projection you have going on. Conservatives believe that the person who took the action is responsible for the consequences of their actions, unless that person is a young child or mentally incompetent, in which case the responsibility falls to the parents or guardian. You'll find that we are quite consistent on that point.
I can't say if the person in this case is legally mentally incompetent, but no conservative is or would blame the child, and I'm sure you know that perfectly well.
The blame ultimately lands on the mental patient because he or she was the one who threw the child in the gator pit. I also partially blame the mental institution for having this schizo out in public knowing full well they'll do something like this.
Why is a mentally ill person allowed to roam freely? He should have been restrained to a bed like someone with rabies. The people responsible for looking after him should be punished, and if the mentally ill man is guilty, he should be fed to the crocodiles
You can be appropriately watching your child/children as a parent and still be a victim of the unpredictable actions of a random mentally unbalanced unhinged person. I also saw this person was released on bail, with an attempted murder charge! At the very least, how did a judge not order this person to be held pending a complete and thorough psychological evaluation prior to being released? Utterly ridiculous. Involuntary mental institutions need to be brought back.
In the UK but also in Australia Finland France Germany Israel Italy Ireland Japan Netherlands Russia New Zealand Singapore South Africa Switzerland United States
@Maybe_Maybe_not Involuntary mental institutions started to close down in the United States in the early 1970s, and were all basically closed down by the early 1990s. I'm sure that there are a few here and there, so I know the number isn't zero facilities, but they don't exist in the numbers that they used to, and they don't hold dangerous unhinged patients as long as in the past. So the practice might be somewhat "alive", but it's definitely not "common" any more. It needs to be common again.
It's definitely alive and common since the context is primarily UK, and by extension developed countries.
Narrowing to USA's are beyond the scope here but I'm curious about what happened there historically.
Also, for something more recent: In July 2025, President Donald Trump issued Executive Order 14321, "Ending Crime and Disorder on America's Streets," seeking to expand involuntary civil commitment for unhoused individuals with serious mental illness or substance use disorders by directing federal agencies to encourage states to reverse court precedents limiting commitment, shift grant funding, and prioritize moving people from streets into institutional treatment, moving away from housing-first policies.
@Maybe_Maybe_not I know people try to make a living and/or enjoy making a hobby out of hating Trump, but as I pointed out earlier, involuntary mental institutions starting closing in the early 1970s. A bit more history and detail: Geraldo Rivera exposed the rampant and systemic abuse going on in them at that time. Instead of correcting the problem, the entire government's response was to close them down and not meaningfully revisit the issue. So that ongoing policy is ELEVEN administrations, numerous versions of both parts of Congress (House and Senate), and BOTH parties deep and counting (Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, Trump).
All right, I suppose closing them fits the agenda of absolutely everyone in charge lol, it responds to the traditional supreme need for individual freedom in USA, it clears out the prospect of abuse and it relieves tax payers from one weight...
But I know psychosis enough to predict how catastrophic it is to let all these people, in need of hospitals, wandering in the streets. That's so much high intensity untreated sufferings...
If he's a patient he shouldn't be at the zoo. So who's to blame! Certainly not the parents unless they are responsible for mental patients. Maybe it's the kids fault, huh? Seeing how the UK runs things perhaps it's my fault. Or yours. Makes as much sense as other shit I hear from that retarded country.
The child's owners should have watched their kid. The looney's handlers should have paid better attention to him, and their bosses shouldn't have let them take him to the zoo. If he wants to see weird shit most people never see, the he could have stayed at the funny farm.
the man is obviously to blame. being mentally ill doesn't free you of accountability. he probably could have done it even when the parents were watching.
Of course. That’s how leftists think. Blame everyone and everything except the people directly responsible for crime. Do everything possible to keep them in constant contact with the general public so they can do as much damage as possible. Keep voting blue!
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