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Girls who get CONTINUALLY used by player-like guys...are simply stupid imo.
As harsh as this sounds...this is what guys genuinely think, including me. If I hear of a girl like this, I simply think she's making bad decisions, rather than this "being a victim" nonsense that I hear females say about the same girl in question.
If a guy is genuinely nice & gets no dating success, imo that's more out of his control.
Why?
Because I truly feel that women control the dating game. Nobody gets to the na-na without her consent.
A girl that rejects genuine nice guys, but continually falls for (yes, I did say "falls for") guys that are good-looking and charming yet have obvious traits from the past 5 guys that sexually used her...
...that's an idiot.
I don't date idiots. Genuine guys also shouldn't try to date a hot idiots (which happens more than these guys would say).
So in a nutshell...guys get more empathy because they're not chosen by the females.
The girl, in the final verdict GETS TO CHOOSE...& if she CONTINUALLY chooses the wrong type of guy due to superficial good-looks & charm...then she's an idiot bitch not worth my time.
P.S. I also must put this disclaimer...if a girl gets used one or maybe twice, that is simply a "mistake". I'm referring to girls who, in the final verdict, CHOOSE hot & charming jackasses & want empathy. Pardon me for my harsh tone throughout this response, but this type of sh*t REALLY pisses me the f*ck off.
P.S.S. To the QA...these females should p*ss you the f*ck off, too, cauz they make your gender look bad.
Those aren't equivalent at all. The female equivalent to the nice guy would be for her to ask out (not wait for him to make a move, actually ask him out) a guy that says he's not interested in a relationship, only to have him turn around and ask out a hotter, slutty girl.
The obvious reason for what you're talking about is that guys here have more empathy for each other than they do for girls. The majority of the guys that frequently visit here are the "friend zone" guys, so we know what it's like. Most of us don't know what it's like to get played, though.
As for girls that get played, I sometimes have sympathy for them, but not usually. For one, most girls who get played don't get played just once- they'll continue going for the exact same type of guy for years, and repeatedly get played because of it. For two, it's pretty common that these girls will rant and rave about how all guys are assholes/jerks, but repeatedly reject actual good guys in favor of better looking and charming ones. For three, many of them do stupid stuff that leads to them getting used, like putting out on the second meeting. For four, trying to be "the one" that changes the player is extremely common (and foolish)- just take one look at some of the questions on this site and it's obvious.
Guys have loyalty to other guys. They don't give a f*** about girls unless it's their mom/sister/close friend/etc other than that they don't care about you because they empathize with other men. Guys don't have empathy for women because for the most part they don't see us as people. the only exceptions are relatives, old women and close friends. If you are not 1 of the 3 then you are either an ugly chick or a girl they want to f***, not an actual person to them. They feel bad for guys who can't get p**** because they emphasize with them because they feel that all guys should get p**** and will actually think badly of girls who reject them and call them "bitches". A girl who is used by a player doesn't get sympathy because (a) most guys will think she's stupid for not going for a guy like him instead and (b) guys are always happy to see another guy get laid and (c) women are not people to them.
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I'm sorry I can't give empathy to someone who has ignored or been to oblivious to recognize the advances of a so called "player". A nice guy Is generally a very loving kind generous person; operates his life on the values that his mother has taught him: holding the door open, buying meals for a girl, lend a helping hand whenever possible. Sadly in our society girls like yourself would probably ignore this guy. Its not your fault of course. Guys who are ass holes are more confident, strong, sexual beings. confidence and strength are traits valued in life they take people far and more like leaders. No doubt they also attracts women. Men who are sexual beings also attract women for if you are a sexual being asking many women for sex you are bound to get lucky with one for women also want sex and can get their fixings with your so called "players" vs. The nice Rube of a girl who has been used by a player has been too dumb to not withdraw from blatant sexual advances. Sorry honey girls CAN say no, thus no empathy for some whiny bitch who 'f***ed' up. Be nice to the nice guy for he is having trouble with the opposite gender. Furthermore you have continually told other responses for him to simply change his attitude. who the f*** do you think you are? A major phycological change how simple. pssh quite whining bitch
Agree with the guys. Women who constantly get played are making bad decisions.
A nice guy is one that approaches women genuinely. He is himself and he likes you. He may be nervous depending on how much he is attracted to you. This is the man who gets constantly rejected.
In a lot of cases he eventually he builds animosity towards women. He begins to get what I call "***k it" in his system. He begins to not want to be the nice guy. He can't stand how women always go for assholes, stupidly so, the ass can even already be known for being a player, they think they can change him and their in love.
Now our guy just doesn't care anymore, why try? What happens next? He lands a girl. Funny how that works.
He winds up trying and fails. Why? Because women always want more, just like how men cheat are never satisfied with what they have. Not all but.. yeah
He realizes that when he holds back his desire to be the girls prince charming/drone/etc. He gets way better results. His whole attitude changes towards women. He is now playing you as well.
(Here's two comments letting me know you make bad decisions)
Comment 1:
"he's being nice to ingratiate himself with her. if he didn't like her, he wouldn't be so nice. so... that's not being himself, that's courting her. think about it. after a few months of a relationship, he stops trying that hard. so a lot of the "nice" is fake."
Did he stop trying or did you expect more than what he was offering?
Comment2:
"haha. against his will? if something's not working for him, he should change his behavior."
You don't want a nice guy. You want to be played. Its as simple as that.
I have empathy for everyone. And that is not just a line.
We're all the same inside soul-wise - we just communicate differently.
Who cares about 'getting some' or 'hooking up'? The people focusing on the purely physical acts of pleasure miss out on the deep soul connections necessary to live life and not just survive.
I don't feel bad for 'nice guys that can't get any' because they can be patient enough to wait for that soul connection.
Sometimes the world doesn't make sense at times, but it always does in the end.
well so many guys always hear girls say my boyfriend is a jerk on and on, so they attempt to be generally good people. then get rejected for whatever reason by those same said girls. he gets rejected flat out and feels destroyed inside.
the girl taken by the player I truly think is different, here is some guy pressuring her for sex after 1 date etc. if your not ready you think they would know better. yet this girl gives this guy who is acting like a huge jerk another chance in fact he is probablly one of the guys the nice guy is oging to have to hear about.
Well I would guess that nice guys don't have empathy for women who were used by players, is because they probably already mentioned to the girl that the guy she was going after was a player, and he will use you, and yet you still went for him.
It's just kind of like if someone says hey don't touch the stove it's very hot and will burn your hand, and well if you went and touched it, what do you really want a person to say besides I told you so.
> Just seems like the male version of the girl taken by a player.
But it isn't. A male version of the girl being taken by a player would be some guy coming here crying that the girl he had been dating turned out to be a slut and was only in it for the sex. Do you think many people would empathize with that guy? Of course not, he'd be told stuff like "Well at least the sex was good, right?" and "Next time be more careful who you date", and then he would be expected to get over it and move on.
It only takes getting screwed over once, or twice at most to learn your lesson. Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting different results.
"Nice guys" on the other hand aren't allowing themselves to be victimized - as the girls you speak of are - but instead generally are put in the friend zone because many women look for overly confident, somewhat insensitive, etc guys - who just so happen to fit the bill of many users!
Maybe said girls should give the nice guys a try. Just a thought.
So yeah, no. They're kind of the opposite. No double standard there.
because it's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all, and only a small handful of guys, or just more guys struggle than girls do
The guys you meet have short "sticks" - time ti hit the bars again.
are they nice girls? you said "girls" you never said "nice" girls
Because the proverbial "nice guy" who can't get a date is in that situation against his will, whereas woman who "gets used" willingly sets herself up for it.
at least you get dates easily, better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all
Stop bitching, I have no empathy for you.
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