Top Feminist/Feminism Questions of The Week

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Feminism — the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities.

Feminist — a person who supports feminism.

Do men hate feminist?

Asked by @TheNewJanie in Guy's Behavior

“I'm for equality but I don't identify as a feminist and don't want to associate with the feminist movement as such. Soooo many people try to quote the dictionary definition and argue that me and anyone else who says they agree with the definition of feminism should be on their team, which just makes it worse.
I can't ignore the greater context of the feminist movement.”

Opinion by @AllThatSweetJazz

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Why is feminism still a thing in the modern age?

Asked by Anonymous in Other

“Well, it depends about what kind of feminism you're talking about. If they're these crazy feminists who make all women seem like godesses and men like shitheads, then obviously they suck and don't deserve any attention. However, if they're just genuine people that want equality for both genders (which doesn't exist for BOTH genders at the moment) then it's perfectly normal.

The amount of women that get raped in the USA and the extreme standards for men is ridiculous now, that's why feminism still needs to be a thing until things like this aren't an issue.”

Opinion by @marvelmuke

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What's so wrong about being a Feminist?

Asked by @xastranger in Social Relationships

“There's nothing WRONG about being a Feminist. There is nothing wrong about being confident, having a high paid career etc etc. Men don't hate feminists for that reason. It's because there are varying degrees of Feminism, and it seems there are a lot of Radical Feminists with Extremist views. I'm sure 99% of guys would agree with 'gender equality', but I'm also sure 99% of guys wouldn't stand for 'lifting up the female gender by putting down the male gender' - which a lot of Feminists come across as.

I personally would never date a feminist. I've got plenty of confidence and my salary is probably higher than 99.9% of the population, so not I'm intimidated by a woman's success or confidence or whatever Feminists claim it to be. My current girlfriend is highly educated, high paying career and very intelligent lady, but not a feminist. That's the kind of girl I want.”

Opinion by @doireallyneedone

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Girls, if you are a feminist do you want Hillary to win?

Asked by Anonymous in Other

“I believe in empowering woman to achieve their dreams but I am not against men being happy and feeling appreciated in their relationships with woman.

I like Hillary conceptually but I don't think she is healthy enough to survive the presidency because she has had 2 surgeries on her internal organs and is a lot older than Obama. She also failed the bar when she graduated from law school so even your average lawyer is smarter than her.”

Opinion by @523206720

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Why are so many guys scared of gender equality?

Asked by @Jxpxtxr in Other

“I promote equality between the genders. I wish we could all get past the gender wars of who is in control, who is behind on rights, who is treated unfairly and where. To me there is a difference between feminism and egalitarianism. Don't get me wrong feminism has brought women up from history's unfair treatment and done it in an amazing and effective way. But feminism (at least where I am or I've seen it) has mainly been focused on "catching women up to men". That's been the message which was needed because women were treated very poorly in the past. But today that message acts as if men are still ahead or being a guy is totally laid-back or just doesn't have any problems itself.

I'm not saying feminism has just been totally selfish but rather that it doesn't see the problems men go through as clearly as women's problems or it doesn't see them much at all. I'm all for equality and that may be what feminism is based on but today it doesn't seem to be able to effectively help or try to help men as much as women. Maybe we need more guys in the movement or maybe I'm totally wrong and just been seeing guys get the short end of the stick lately.”

Opinion by @The_Technomancer

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Are you a feminist?

Asked by Anonymous in Other

“Feminism is wanting equality. That's it. Why do over half of the people on here NOT want equality?

And I am shocked that so many women said no! So you want to go back to when women could not vote and had to stay home in the kitchen and serve their husbands all day?”

Opinion by @CarolinaGuti

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So if your not a feminist, how do you see women and their place in society with men?

Asked by @love2run13 in Social Relationships

“I'm against feminism. Ideally it should be equality between men and women, but that's not what modern feminism is about. Sure, equality between men and women is my ideal goal, but this will not be achieved through feminism, it cause more problems then it fixes.”

Opinion by @Drast

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Why do so many men seem to hate feminism?

Asked by Anonymous in Guy's Behavior

“Usually, they don't understand what it's actually about. Believing in the worth and value of women doesn't mean devaluing men. Women have been taught for centuries that they are only valued for their bodies (to look at or to bear children) whereas men have always been valued for more than that.”

Opinion by @9mfeo

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Feminism myTakes:

• Gender Equality is For Everyone by @HyperOrphic


• Three Badass Females Who Define My Vision of Feminism for the Future by @pavlove


• Feminism is not a dirty word. @Fantasygrl96

[Minxxie]

My boyfriend was always into feminism and it was important to him that I held the same views. People call him a "pussy" or tell him he's not a real man simply because he believes in equality but that's the way he was raised. What I find funny though is that every person who has insulted us on how we choose to live our lives has ended up with a toxic conflicting relationship while we are still going strong. "Traditional" values and roles can be really restricting and illogical. He's better at cooking so he usually cooks, I know more about fixing our cars so I do that! If we followed our traditional roles we'd have broken down cars and crappy food! I'm not expected to cook and clean and wait on him hand and foot, and he's not expected to buy me whatever I want and pay for every date! We like to spoil each other and I enjoy buying things for him and supporting myself. Equally paying my share of our upcoming vacation equally, paying my share of the rent and groceries. Plus doing chores together gets them done faster and we are busy students! I think that being secure in the fact we both view each other as equal helps us work together and live together successfully. We never yell and scream and fight with each other like many other couples who are in a weird "traditional" power struggle all the time. It must be exhausting! The only time I've ever seen him super mad is when his former friend was making violent sexist jokes and would not shut up so my boyfriend stormed out od the bar and ranted for an hour haha I'm my experience equality is easier and more harmonious than traditional roles.

[Song4TheBroken]

Yasssss! I love you.

[Jonwhilkins]

Praise.

[DaniaMQ]

YOU GUYS R THE BEST COUPLE EVER :D

[Minxxie]

yaaaay thank you!

[RajeshTheJeshter]

"What I find funny though is that every person who has insulted us on how we choose to live our lives has ended up with a toxic conflicting relationship while we are still going strong." Dude, you're nineteen...

[Minxxie]

My age has nothing to do with it, I am still old enough to know what works and what doesn't. It's not like we are little kids who meet up at the mall every weekend and call it dating. We live together and have to live in close quarters, manage our money like adults, and make it all work while going to university full time and working. We don't have the time to be fighting about stupid shit and not getting everything done as efficiently as possible so we can get on with school work. And I wasn't just talking about people our age I know who have insulted us on believing in equality and finding traditional roles irrational, I was talking about middle aged couples as well. My own dad laughs about how my boyfriend and I are feminists yet he's the one screaming on the phone to his girlfriend every night and my boyfriend and I have never had a fight our 4 years together! My dad has been in and out of toxic relationships for years and the whole time my boyfriend and I have been happy together!

[R3d_Anonymous]

@RajeshTheJeshter You know another thing that needs to stop? Ageism.

[R3d_Anonymous]

Opinion owner, that is fucking awesome.

[Minxxie]

yeah ageism is ridiculous, age has nothing to do with it! I know I have a healthier relationship than my dad and his girlfriend, even my grandparents!

[oracle12c]

That's nice, and yet nothing you said have anything to do with feminism.

Feminism is the political ideology, advocating legislative change providing women with positive discrimination - affirmative action.

You and your boyfriends personal life has no relevance for feminism.

[Minxxie]

It's not all about politics actually it also has to do with personal views and how you treat others, it's not only about legislation that's a narrow view of the entire picture.

[oracle12c]

You are speaking of feminism as a moral, and not like it's a political movement. However, when I and others say feminism we are talking about the political movement. Anything you just said, can be said without the word feminism even be mentioned.
What you are describing is common sense and carrying for one another, I don't see any feminism in that.

[OlderAndWiser]

Men don't hate the idea of women having equal rights, but there are three facets of feminism that men do hate:

1. I believe in equal pay for equal work, so don't get in my face and tell me that all men are gender-bigoted slobs!

2. Most women want equal advantages for themselves, but not for men. If you truly believe in absolutely equal rights, then a man who has gotten a woman pregnant should be able to veto her choice to have an abortion.

3. Having equal rights does not mean that we should act as if there are no differences between the genders. There are (thank God!) and those differences are not just physical differences. E. g., most women are better suited to being nurturing for small children and most men tend to be less over-protective when children need to get ready to face the world.

[checkyesjulietx]

men have absolute bodily autonomy. how are men and women equal if a man could veto an abortion and force a woman to go through with childbirth? not to mentionn the physical scarring pregnancy and child birth can cause. abortion rights are one of the most basic forms of equality

[OlderAndWiser]

A man should not be able to force a woman to undergo childbirth if it is a danger to her health. Otherwise, your view of "force" ignores the fact that the woman voluntarily had unprotected sex despite having the unfettered right to use birth control. She became pregnant by choice. So. . . she gets to kill my child and I have no right to object? Because her right to be free of scarring is more important than the baby's right to live or the father's right to protect the life of his child? The only person who would think that is fair is a woman, and there are many women who would agree with my position.

No sale! If you don't want to endure the consequences of certain conduct, then don't engage in that conduct. That's rather simple.

[Zeanobia]

@checkyesjulietx For the same reasons a woman gets to decide whether they get pill or not. I want women to be entitled to get abortion if I'm the father.

I'm not complaining when you take the pill especially if you're not ready to have children or got raped.

If I'm not ready or can't afford to pay child support, the woman should be obligated to get abortion or never use the term pro-choice at all.

[sixstring]

Men have absolute bodily autonomy? Ehm, no. Have you ever heard of this little thing called neo-natal circumcision.

[Mekkalyn]

I agree with you completely!
Especially about point 2&3. I'm flabbergasted men have 0 rights when it comes to that. Ridiculous. And in court... well lets not even get into that. Also men and women ARE different! We have different parts, different wiring... we are different but should have equal rights. But lets not be obnoxious and claim that we are 100% the same, because we just aren't.

Feminists do not fight for equality. They fight for WOMEN's equality. that is the problem. They want the same rights as a man, but ignore the fact that they have advantages over men in different areas. A person who really wants equal rights is an egalitarian, not a feminist. The meaning of the word feminist tells you that they are only in it for females. It is a genderized word. It is not for equality, it is for superiority. If it was not, what grounds would this movement have to be split from egalitarians?

[Mekkalyn]

& don't misunderstand me, I was simply adding on to what you said, not combating it! I agree with you. I just want to make that clear because some people have gotten confused in the past when I add on and they think I'm automatically disagreeing :P

[OlderAndWiser]

@checkyesjulietx I am sure that you are convinced you are right. I understand your point, so please try to understand my viewpoint. From a male perspective, if a guy gets a girl pregnant,

1. she can not tell him about the pregnancy, have the baby, and deny dad the privileges of fatherhood;

2. she can not tell him about the pregnancy, lie and say she doesn't know who the father is, and place the child for adoption. Dad never knows he has a child who is alive on this planet.

3. She can have an abortion without his consent and he must suffer knowing that his child has been murdered because a pregnancy would have been inconvenient for the mother and, my gawd, how could she wear a bikini after she gave birth to a baby?

4. She can have the baby, identify him as the father, he can pay child support, and he can have visitation rights.

The baby is her baby and it is his baby, but who makes the decision on which of those options gets selected. Find equality if this if you can.

[Rawrzz]

Egalitarianism = real equality
Modern feminism = I'm a woman, so I'm more special than you are. I'm proud to be a woman, and I am weaker than you men, so you should give me as many handicaps and advantages as possible.

Note the emphasis on "equality" *FOR* feminists, AKA females.

At bare minimum, men aren't considered at all within the confines of the very definition of the word of feminism. At most, it's a callous resentment of those brutal, animalistic men. In order to maintain the premise of feminism, one must accept that female oppression existed for millennia. Is there no greater argument for female inferiority? In a history splattered with the burning remains of fallen dictatorships and overthrown overlords and the crumbling ruins of tyrannies and slaves fighting against their owners, women were the *only* ones who never rose up against their oppressors? At least, not until a virtual eyeblink ago, and even then, there wasn't too much of a fight for rights, as men accepted comparatively quickly contrasted to other oppressed peoples.

Luckily, since I'm not a feminist, I don't believe that women are inferior. I believe that women knew they had a good thing going: protection and provision. Of course, some men were assholes, as some still are. Some beat their women, but in feminism, we're often taught that was most likely the norm.

And yes. Men were valued more. But the rights they had, they fucking earned through sweat and blood and dismemberment. Would your female ancestors have preferred to work in the sweltering heat, plowing the fields? Or forced into bloody armed combat, simply because you were male? Or doing any of the other sacrificial jobs that men did like working in a mine, like my grandfather did for my grandmother to have food to eat and a place to sleep? Men did have more rights, but women were *always*, and have *always* been valued more. As a female, you have *INNATE* value in society, currently, as well. As a male, I have to *PROVE* that I am worth something to society. If a woman is hurt or injured, it's a travesty. If a man is hurt or injured, it's hilarious or doesn't matter. In general. Think about it.

Drop feminism, and go with egalitarianism. The very word feminism, itself, defies the notion of true equality.

[omgwtfbbqhax]

Look at all these ignorant feminists who disliked this well written post

Another reason why i lose zero respect for female for following such bullshit movement

[Rawrzz]

I followed the movement myself, for my whole life. You can't fault them. It sounds good, and it really seems like common sense. "Well, yeah, of course women should be equal. If you disagree, then you're against women." That's what they think, and that's what we're taught. It takes an open mind and being confronted with a cogent argument while still maintaining the value of both women and men.

Of course, where females are concerned, I'm sure some just want to maintain the status quo. After all, why would anyone want to lose value?

In other words, try to be nice to them. Everyone deserves respect. That's the point. But, at the same time, I understand how you feel. It's aggravating and depressing when you feel as though you're absolutely right, and other people are wrong.

[RationalLioness]

you're inanely generalizing. Just because you are a feminist DOES NOT mean that you must only advocate for womens rights. You are the one who is ignorant.

[Rawrzz]

Do you advocate male rights?

[Rawrzz]

And, regardless, can you address this claim? 'In order to maintain the premise of feminism, one must accept that female oppression existed for millennia. Is there no greater argument for female inferiority? In a history splattered with the burning remains of fallen dictatorships and overthrown overlords and the crumbling ruins of tyrannies and slaves fighting against their owners, women were the *only* ones who never rose up against their oppressors?'

[sixstring]

I'm against third wave, first world feminism for a simple reason : It's wrong about almost everything. It blindly perpetuates debunked arguments over and over again, while utterly refusing to accept proven facts that don't fit their dogmatic views.

-Women do not get paid less for doing the same job. While it is true that women earn less on average, it is entirely due to different choices men and women make. Childless, unmarried women earn more than men. Women under 30 earn more than men under 30 in many places.
Sources :
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../wage-gap_b_2073804.html
www.payscale.com/.../do-men-or-women-choose-majors-to-maximize-income
social.dol.gov/blog/myth-busting-the-pay-gap/

-Their approach to intimate partner violence is absolutely disgusting. Their own research has found that women are more likely to be abusive, and they have kept those numbers suppressed since the mid seventies.
Women are more than twice as likely to be the sole abuser in a heterosexual relationship. IPV is (percentage wise) more common in lesbian relationships than it is in heterosexual relationships. The majority of domestic violence is committed by women. The feminist notion of this being some patriarchal norm is absolutely unfounded.
Sources : (Apparently you're only allowed to post 10 links, I hope I can place them in a reply)

-The myth of rape culture that has instigated extreme paranoia and witch hunts on American college campuses. Women are less likely to be raped in college than anywhere else. Even if you take the feminist claim to heart that only 1/10 rapes goes unreported, we're still talking about less than 1%. Not anywhere close the 1/4-1/5 nonsense they constantly come up with.
And they're trying to use those numbers to turn rape into "guitly into proven innocent", something that is already happening on college campuses.
Sources :
www.usnews.com/.../statistics-dont-back-up-claims-about-rape-culture
time.com/.../
www.courtinnovation.org/.../...ecutive_Summary.pdf
aspiringeconomist.com/.../

-Sexual assault on men is in fact almost as common as sexual assault on women. The reason why the rape numbers are so wide apart, is because of the sexist definition. It is defined as (attempted) forceful penetration. Forceful envelopment (as in a woman forcing her vagina around a man's penis) is not legally defined as rape. The 12-month prevalence (which is a far more reliable number than a lifetime prevalence, as male victims are constantly told that they weren't assaulted, that they wanted it, to the point that after decades they actually believe it themselves.) of men encountering forceful envelopment is less than 1% less common than (attempted) forceful penetration of women.
Sources :
www.cdc.gov/.../...svs_overview_insert_final-a.pdf
www.fbi.gov/.../rape

-Women are held in a higher regard than men in our society.
en.wikipedia.org/.../%E2%80%9CWomen_are_wonderful%E2%80%9D_effect

More sources to follow.

[sixstring]

menaregood.com/.../
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...ssive-partners-men.html
www.emeraldinsight.com/.../17596591211244166
www.mintpressnews.com/.../
www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/.../...cs-29707051.html
www.theatlantic.com/.../
www.pandys.org/.../lesbiandomesticviolence.html

[sixstring]

www.prweb.com/.../prweb10741752.htm?PID=4003003
www.researchgate.net/.../226871004_The_two_facets_of_female_violence_The_public_and_the_domestic_domains
https://time.com/2921491/hope-solo-women-violence/
https://web.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnUwxxijr3g

[sixstring]

On "discrimnation" in hiring in STEM-fields.
www.pnas.org/.../1418878112.abstract

And a more general link talking about feminism.
masculistfeminist.hubpages.com/.../Why-So-Many-People-Are-Against-Feminism

[sixstring]

And that's not even mentioning the extreme hypocrisy amongst feminism. A perfect example is gender quotas. They're all for putting women in fancy, top jobs. But how about gender quotas for shit jobs that men almost exclusively take? How about gender quotas in garbage disposal? Truck drivers? Street cleaners? Hell, even gender quotas for male teachers. Nope, they don't give a fuck because those are shitty jobs, let men keep doing those.

[PhiOmega]

Cool

[RationalLioness]

I hope you know that a lot of what you said is BS.

[sixstring]

@RationalLioness Name something. It's all factual.

[sixstring]

@RationalLioness Except for maybe the 2:1 ratio of abuse as it's only for a specific age group.

[JohnBelluci]

I love how these tools flatter themselves by changing terms to their advantage...

"Guys find strong and independent women INTIMIDATING" ---> No we find them REPULSIVE.

"Guys are SCARED of gender equality" --> It's not SCARY it's RETARDED. It makes no sense. We're as equal and comparable as an apple and an orange.
Equality of opportunities is common sense. Of course it's good.

How many people talking out about the pay gap actually went to the official bureau of statistics of their country, and did the necessary research to verify if there is indeed, a logically unexplainable significant gap?
Anybody who did the job by breaking the data down would have realised the pay gap can ALWAYS be explained with rational reasons...
There is pretty much no room left for discrimination.

It's like, do your homework before opening your mouth and spread your bullshit self righteousness on others.

As for rape and battered wives stats... omg that's even more ridiculous when you see HOW they get their numbers. No wonder Feminists are the laughing stock of science. Their "Academic Litterature" is a mockery of genuine intellect.
They never test their theory and draw conclusions (like in... real science), they manipulate the test in order to arrive to the conclusion they have already decided SHOULD BE true.

"How many men rape women you say? 4% ? ... Nah that's not enough. Change the questionnaires and pump these numbers up, we need a good 20-30% to make a decent mediatic impact. Let's go..."

[PlantsAreHumansToo]

THAT definition of feminism is one that I can get on board with. Unfortunately, people often define feminism differently, as a movement for women's rights (or something to that effect). I advocate for women's rights, and men's rights, and whoever's rights need particular avocation in any area, but I find that the kind of feminist people most often complain about (and a great number of particularly outspoken feminists) never advocate for men's rights. I don't like calling them "rights" either, because really, all Western countries have legal equality for men and women (for the most part). In reality, they only advocate for women's rights because if they advocated for men's rights (to them) they would be supporting the "patriarchy"- something that none of them can demonstrate exist.

So... sorry I'm a bit upset. It would just help to know that people who supposedly advocate for men's rights actually advocated for men's rights, and those who do are not labeled supporters of an antiquated nonexistent social hierarchy.

[Mekkalyn]

It is a movement for women's rights.
If it were truly about equal rights, it would be called egalitarians.
Don't be mistaken, the number one agenda of a feminist is women's rights.
The name says it all. Feminists -- fem/me -- female, feminine. and -ism means "a belief, attitude, style, etc., that is referred to by a word that ends in the suffix" So, in other words, it is a belief or attitude that feminists are not equal to men. It has nothing to do with actual equality, no matter how someone wants to spin it, the name says it all.

[Anonymous]

In 21st century everyone wants to make a big discussion about something that's been in the modern age and a little bit of now. Does it matter? Do we have to protest? And make a huge chaotic mess about something that's another's decision. Just like women want to add women on the money because they feel as if we had more women who should be added because of they're good work. NONSENSE ! Keep everything as it is , debate about it? On your watch. It really doesn't matter , let's discuss about what's going on in the world with war , instead of things that is irrelevant to be honest. For instance , if a guy posts a picture of him on social media shirtless and a women does the same , she is looked at differently no matter the beliefs of anyone. There are moral men out there who will not accept that , I agree. A women should shield her body as a beautiful canvas and no matter what , there is a yes and no for each sex. It's not about going against , it's just some people are not going to sit down an wonder about women and men having equal rights. It's a waste of time...

[Opinion Owner]

This post is just mainly for girls who just wants to blab and debate about nonsense. Take an Advil and it will take the pain awaaaaaay.

[Opinion Owner]

I guy should be toughened up and a girl should act whatever the way she feels like acting. Whooooo cares , seriously a discussion about how people should act. In my everyday living , if I see a guy complaining and moaning like a chick I will say : "Man up , stop acting like a girl "
Or "you talk more than a girl , you're into so much drama than a girl had ever been ".

That's how irrelevant everything sounds and just constant complains.. if everyone was the same in this world? Where would we be? And what would we know? .
Equal rights for race , but this right here is just... No reason to be talked about , because those who want to be right will argue and it's never gonna end. Go on about your life with what you believe and done.

[Opinion Owner]

A* ...

[Azara]

there's a direct correlation between violence against women and inc ease in war, actually.

[Opinion Owner]

@Azara ask me do I care? 😒

[vishna]

SO many GaG men hate feminism. You try to tell them 100 times that you identify as a feminist and don't want men in chains. But still these hard headed zealots still call you a feminazi bent on suppressing men.

The especially dense men like to call you fat, ugly, and lacking of male attention.

Oh brother...

Thank you to all the men out there who not only support feminists women but also understand that not every woman is the same.

Ex) The members of the Westboro Baptist church identify as Christian, yet they are widely denounced within their faith and OBVIOUSLY do not represent all Christians. Crazy woman who desire gender inequality and identify as Feminists are widely denounced within the feminist group and do NOT represent all Feminists.

[Jxpxtxr]

WORD 🙏🏻

[Robbey]

Unfortunately, the only thing far too many people know about feminism is that they're against it. Apparently, for a lot of them, because Rush Limbaugh said it was bad (the whole 'feminazi' crowd).

[sixstring]

Here's the difference? Good Christians actually denounce the WPC. They actively engage them and try to shut them down. Good feminists don't denounce the extremists. At most, they provide the "No true Scotsman fallacy" and dismiss them as if they are harmless.
The problem is that those extremists have hijacked feminism and they are the ones leading the charge right now. Modern feminist ideology is all a result of extremists coming up with a whole bunch of flawed statistics and even outright lies during the seventies and eighties, that got repeated blindly, and are now accepted as facts.

I'm against feminism the same way I am against Christianity. I don't have anything against individual Christians, but I hate the Catholic church. The same way that I don't hate individual feminists, but I hate the feminist movement. They are using real issues that both genders face for their own financial gain. They are full of shit, and by calling yourself a feminist, you are empowering THEM, not women

[vishna]

I am denouncing the crazy women right now. Denounce denounce denounce. Just like it's not the job of every Muslim person to apologize for terrorists, it's not my job to go out and apologize for crazy women masquerading as a feminists. Yet, here I am publicly saying not only do I not agree with the twisted ideas of those women, but also that I find it disgusting. Those who shout the loudest are heard, in this case it's the women causing issues, not the ones traveling to different countries educating and empowering women or the women exposing bias in Hollywood. And please, if I volunteer my time and energy to empower women and girls and call myself a feminist then that's exactly what I'm doing.

[oracle12c]

", it's not my job to go out and apologize for crazy women masquerading as a feminists"

nope it's not, but then accept the word feminism have a far different meaning in the minds of a lot of people (men in particular) than the wiki definition of feminism.

I hate the political movement called feminism, advocating for discriminatory laws. I do not however hate every women who wants equality, since I agree with them on that issue. Any woman however who defines herself as a feminist, will however be assumed to be in agreement with the political movement and hence hated by me and many others.

So, disassociate yourself with the political movement and called yourself an egalitarian instead or simply say you are for gender equality then you won't hurt anyone or cause any resentments.

But to say you are a national socialist who don't agree with holocaust, and then expect people to simply say, oh it's all-right then, is stupidity.

[Mark01]

I'm a guy, but I got to admit, most of us are idiots.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Oh look another crazy feminist:P bwhahaha

[vishna]

I'm out of my mind for identifying with this word. You'd think I'd said I enjoyed eating babies.

@OrdinaryGentleman

[OrdinaryGentleman]

@vishna You should probably stop eating babies... i don't think they like it:P

[thatkaruguy]

Feminists love to throw the text book definition of it in your face, and they also love to say they aren't like the radio feminists. The problem with this is neither normal feminists or radio gems fight for men's rights which is why they don't fight for equality. Rad fems tear down men make laws against them and try to manipulate them. Normal feminists just sit there and watch they do nothing to stop them.

[madpete1111]

Feminism teaches that you don't need a man, that you should not judge your self worth based on a man, and that you should not have to care for a man, but then you wonder why you can't find a good man. You say there are no more good men left. Well no shiz, you scared em all off!

[PT1911]

Chivalry is dead and feminism killed it

[madpete1111]

Word

[Falling4UTC]

You see, I believe what feminists stand for but I don't agree with the name. The name "feminist" and "feminism" sounds like females over males. I wish they would change the same to "equalism" because that is what it means: to create equal ground for both genders. I stand for equality.

[Nuqood]

That would mean actually considering the male perspective and allowing debate with gender issues, something feminists don't endorse or allow.

Feminism is special privileges for women, nothing more and nothing less. All the bullying tactics, shame tactics, smear tactics, and lies prove this (Example: the myth of the wage gap, despite being proven false, is still perpetuated by lazy feminists in attempt to prove gender discrimination in the First World).

[Falling4UTC]

There are feminazis who want to dominate the male race, and then there are feminists who don't know what they stand for. All I want is equality. I want equalism. I know there are many people who agree with me, which is awesome 😃

[AllThatSweetJazz]

Equalism is literally another name for Egalitarianism, that's what people are using now and that's what you'll want to look into.

[Falling4UTC]

Thank you! I will look it up :)

[Azara]

understanding that people have different needs and interests is not the same thing as saying one is better than the other. if you're just going to magically say everyone is the same how do you deal with the fact womEn have babies and are for a certain period of time compromised in a way men are not? egalitarianism doesn't take away the need for a woman movement and women movement doesn't get in the way of egalitarianism. anymore than fighting fascism would.

[Falling4UTC]

Sorry, but I don't understand specifically what you are trying to say. Could you clarify? @Asker 😊

[bloodmountain1990]

I'm all for women's rights but I think feminazis are giving real feminists a bad name and I'm talking about the ones who are essentially man haters, they basically act like girls can do whatever they want without any consequences and if a guy complains en they're a misogynistic asshole. These same feminazis also hold guys to their gender roles too and if a guy doesn't live up to his gender role then he's pathetic. I think these people are a poor representation of feminism.

They also only focus on their issues and disregard men's issues.

[Azara]

feminism is about worminess issues. thats why they focus on women issues. man hating is not feminism so it is illogical to call it bad feminism. its not feminism last all.

[bloodmountain1990]

I agree with you but the ones who are man haters, some do claim to hide behind feminism which is totally different.

[Watermelonoma]

"Feminism — the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities."

implies that if you don't identify with the feminist movement, that you think women should be shackled back to the kitchen. I believe in equal rights for women, but i don't self identify as a feminist because I do not agree with some of the status quo talking points professed by non feminazis... such as this belief that the 75cents to every male dollar wage gap in the USA is due to the patriarchy/sexism in the workplace, and not due to choices women make with the amount of hours they spend working, the kinds of jobs they usually pursue, along with the levels of education. This is the problem with framing feminism the way that you do here, and the reason why i don't identify with the movement. There's no room for a nuanced point of view

[Maverickj]

Feminism is not about gender equality, and hasn't been for a long time. You can pull up the dictionary definition all you want, but unless you can name me a few things feminism has actually done for men, your point is completely invalid.

Feminism only cares about women's issues. Ergo, feminism is not about equality.

[GlamFelix]

Wow. I'm honestly disgusted by a lot of men, and it's just kind of sad. Because a woman wants to be paid the same for doing the same job as a man, because a woman has a 1 in 4 chance of being raped in her lifetime, ohhhh

that means that any woman who fights to change that, there are men who try to claim they are ugly, or whiny? Yeah, another reason we need feminism.

[Riggers]

''1 in 4 chance of being raped''. In India or some shit sure?
In western nations? i call fucking bulshit.
And women don't get paid the same as men, because they do different jobs. Again, stop taking your facts from shitty third world nations and applying them to western ones.

[GirlsLie]

That's exactly how I feel, there's still so many pressures on women and men both from society but if a woman speaks out about or calls herself a feminist, the men on this site think we're all man haters. When actually I want things to change for men also and speak against things for both genders.

I just can't wrap my head around any man who has a woman in his life that he loves, who doesn't think she has the right to not have stereotypes put on her for being a female or the right to ask for change for society's views on women and the same goes for men. It's just such a popular thing to hate now and it makes me sad to see women stop associating themselves with feminism and not speaking out just because of the hateful comments from people on this site.

Feminism is still very much needed in other countries as well, not all of us hate men and want more rights then men, I personally love men and I wish things changed for them as well, this unnecessary hate for each other is ridiculous.

[GlamFelix]

actually Riggers--I'll show you where I got this statistic, right here: (i cannot post links yet, look at the rccmsc website, in resources--'get the facts'.

sorr, you're right in a way, it's actually only 1 in 6. That's still far too much.

The job thing? Well, actually, some industries are so male dominated that it's harder for a woman to get a job in that industry than it is for a man of the same age and skill level. And the men STILL get more money. I'm not ignorant and I never spew facts without doing research on them.

[Nuqood]

#GlamFelix You can read white supremacist propaganda about many different religions and ethnic groups, but their facts don't prove the truth. There is barely a gender wage gap, and that minor gap is not due to patriarchy and unfair treatment.

The 1 in 6 number is absolute shit since the study conducted classified cat calls as sexual assault/rape and lumped accusations with real incidences of rape. Something like 200,000 prisoners are raped every year (I know, by men; It isn't a fucking contest, are you really going to trivialize rape victims?) and considering the majority of inmates are male, what does that tell you? More people in jail are raped and sexually assaulted than civilians, and we treat them as if we're looking from pride rock at the elephant graveyard.

[Ozanne]

You were close with your statistic - it's 1 in 4 *girls* risk being molested before they are adults. Still, it's a staggering statistic that people don't seem to want to fix.

[GlamFelix]

ah, thank you Ozanne. It's hard to know where to look for exact statistics, but yes. I'm frankly appalled by how stubborn so many people are in denying there's a problem. <3

[FakeName123]

Can you people maybe just stop talking about things you have no clue about? Because you are both incorrect.
Here is the actual study: www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/221153.pdf

First of all its 1 in 4 girls being sexuall harassed, not raped. Secondly - this study is full of fallacies and idiocy. An clumsily attempted kiss is by their definition already sexual harassment, the questions of the questionnaire were loaded and the researchers decided themselves if something was sexual harassment/rape or not even if the "vicitms" said otherwise. Just a few example of why this study is utterly garbage.

[Maverickj]

You think men don't get raped? And if women *actually* got paid less, then companies would only hire women. Women DO NOT get paid less, stop perpetuating this myth.

[GlamFelix]

I KNOW men get raped. Do you know the statistics of how many rape victims are female? How many are underage women? I'm not making things up.

[fuuuark]

Well done gag on believing in the proclaimed feminist version of the wage gap, do 2 minutes of research and find out that equal pay for equal work is literally a legal statute in almost every country. The wage gap is calculated on a gross number for sector not the same position, it isn't a discriminatory problem. If they could hire a women to do the same job as a man but pay her less, they would just hire women and save money.

[Azara]

I read this on a discussion forum on line, and i think its a good point :

"It is sometimes relevant and sometimes crucial to also discuss other diversity activism in feminist discussions. But refusing to take a feminist discussion seriously unless it somehow proves it is going to solve all the world's problems in one go is the definition of derailing. If you are genuinely interested in and involved in diversity activism, discuss it: set up a new thread, discussion, panel, etc, so as not to pull an existing discussion off course. But if you aren't, don't fling "yeah, well, what about [this other terrible inequality]?" out there for the sake of it. Just because someone is talking about geek feminism doesn't mean that she doesn't know or care about other diversity problems. A possible litmus test for derailing as opposed to a genuine intersectionality discussion is "am I moving this discussion in a direction which makes me more comfortable?"

[Anonymous]

I wonder why this opinion was left out lol:

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a9246-the-goodness-of-feminism-good-feminism-role-models

"I'm so tired of feminism, since when did equally mean "feminism"?

Men are just as much attacked by double standards and expectations. I bash feminism because I want EVERYONE to be equal and I don't mean "how can I make things more convenient for women?" I mean it literally.

Women, enough already. The feminist movement is over, if you don't step down we end up in matriarchy which is just as bed as patriarchy.

Join the humanist movement and start looking at both sides."

[Anonymous]

and men who are taller get paid more and get promotions quicker. look this movement keeps coming to a hualt bacause at the end of the day everyone fears the females alterior motives. and a lot of times their not honest. again these movements only benifit women and with the power that they have they have shown that they lack grace and true equality. an example: women only bring home a spouse that is better than them. not equal to. this is proof that they do not pratice equality in their lives. nor do they desire to in their private lives.
when it is true equality I could have a 6'4" muscle bond wife make all the money and I stay home and clean and NO ONE questions are love or relationship.

[RationalLioness]

*sigh* Idiot.

[Opinion Owner]

@RationalLioness not a valid answer

[RationalLioness]

Yeah. I know. Thats why i called you an idiot. Asinine generalizations based off of nothing.

[Opinion Owner]

@RationalLioness you lack what it takes to comprehend what i said but its ok i know you dont and you only care about one side of the issue.

[Yc2K15]

Feminism is for insecure women who live in small box's. The fight is not to be equal but to be better than men. The debate could go on forever. I would never consider myself higher than a woman simply because she created me. Maybe women should focus on raising their children right instead of blaming them when they grow up

[Jxpxtxr]

I agree with you but to my question so many guys answered they hate feminism because "Men are just better." and to me that the exact reason why we still need it..

[Yc2K15]

We say we are better because we don't believe we are worse. That is my point exactly. Women should respond with comments like "haha yeah nice try", or "piss of asshole, girl power". Why would we believe or accept we are inferior, then ask if we can be equal? the problem I think that needs to be faced is harassment, only issue is too many peoe cry wolf... @Jxpxtxr

[Theguyoverthere]

This is feminism in action.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0

[ScottSummers]

wow they are disgusting

[PiuBelloAmante]

when did feminism become such a big deal again? i dont remember hearing anything about it like 2 years ago...

now its feminist this, feminist that
feminism, feminism, i am sick of it

i hate feminists just because i hate how much i hear about 'crazy feminists'
or how about i am a feminist yadda yadda nonsense

idgaf who you are just respect me and i will give it back, nough said

[Yc2K15]

Since women were actually started to be treated better. This is basically what women use their power to do, to create more gossip, bickering and drama. Girls love it. Also Feminism is a safe haven for girls who fucked up and refuse to take blame for their cations. I don't know 1 single job title in 2015 where 2 people, 1 man and 1 woman, do the exact same job and the woman gets paid less. Its bullshit! But I can tell you this. I could name plenty of jobs men can't have because they are men, and plenty of jobs that women get just because they attractive. Women just refuse to believe the reality and chose to live in an era which ended in the 80's.
The only women I feel for are the religious types that are controlled by their religion to be slaves to men. That shit needs to stop!