This is very similar to my thoughts on the subject. I think it may be helpful to think of SMV as using just the easily-read traits, but not considering the deeper levels of compatibility. As such, focusing solely on SMV feels kinda dehumanizing, as it ignores personal depths.
Thank you for the MHO.
It's an attempt to make a nerdy scientific model for attraction between men and women. So if a guy knows his SMV he'll know where he stands in the hierarchy of men as potential partners for women. Basically think rating people on a scale from 1 - 10 and taking that to the Nth degree lol. So you're not just a 6 or an 8 anymore. It's like, you're an 8 in looks, but your financial success might bump you up to a 9, but if your career type is viewed as low status that might bring you back down to an 8. It's kind of humorous, but has some truth behind it.
I see how it can make sense but do you really think that everyone in the world thinks this way? Like I can't be with this person because he's not this number or this rating, etc.
Not at all lol, but I understand the principle and it does carry some weight. While not everyone thinks in terms of "I only date 10's". Most do have a more vague idea in their head of a certain level of quality they are willing to date and a level quality they wouldn't consider. While we wouldn't look at it through the lens of "that's a 6 and I don't date 6's". We still do make that assessment in our minds. We just don't give them numbers.Like if you're determining things you value socially one could ask on a scale of 1 to 10 how important is that to you? And just go down the line with all the major points, then on paper you would have your idea of a theoretical 8, 9, 10 even tho you don't think in those terms. From that model of thinking that's what it would be for you.The average person has a naturalistic assessment as opposed to a scientific rating system assessment. But it's still an assessment, just without the number.
The rating system without the number, I think that's more accurate for me. I know that I couldn't date someone who is/isn't x but could date someone with x criteria.
Thanks for sharing your explanation.
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"One can have high SMV and low DMV - e. g. someone you'd happily hook up with or be friends with benefits"That's exactly what they are implying or trying to define. Hence the sexual part in SMV. Somebody with high SMV can still ahve high DMV, but somebody with high DMV can't necessarily have high SMV like you mentioned.
very trueso take it your hot and you got great personality as well :D
@Moonchild714 well according to the SMV you are washed up ! LOL
manmeat, No I would not say I'm hot, I think I'm average 7 at the most. Do have an amazing personality though. My friends say its my confidence and also what the guys and strangers say there is this Aura around me that they are all just drawn to me. I do know everyone says I'm very approachable to talk to.
coachTanthony, that's why it's all BS made up by people looking for Excuses...
So I am guessing you don't believe it?
SMV is a real thing though.
There’s truth to it. Basically the more attractive you are as a person the more options you have. However the red pill definition of attractive when it comes to both men and women is pretty warped.
MzAsh what’s the “red pill”?
Not every woman is blessed with Good genetics Meaby u are Thats all
@Petju plenty of women in their 40s have more options than you.
@Aphrodite801 yeyeye U mad i see that nie STFU
That’s why your hairline is receding at 25 🤣🖕
@Aphrodite801 U so pretty u dont even show ur face hahaha 🤣🖕
The red pill is a group of average to low value men who market themselves as above average and call themselves “alpha.” They have an attitude against free women who don’t stay home and cook and clean. (Aka anti feminists)
Interesting, yes, men who constantly regard to themselves as “alpha” or “beta” are obviously fools.
"They have an attitude against free women who don’t stay home and cook and clean."Kind of hypocritical considering there are just as much women that have an attitude against men that do not fit the typical archetype of a traditional man. Don't complain about men wanting women to be feminine and adhere to their gender roles if you expect men to be masculine and adhere to their gender roles.
I certainly don’t expect them to. Never wanted a traditional man. She asked me what the red pill is, and I gave her my answer.
"They have an attitude against free women who don’t stay home and cook and clean."I prefer independent ambitious women I am anti-feminism, so are majority of men. In UK is majority everyone, only 26% of people as a whole support feminism. Only 17% of men in America support feminism. Its a political organization today not an egalitarian one. Nothing to be proud of being a feminist :)
^Feminism is supported by millions of people in the Uk and America. Just cause you’re a bitter no good feminist hater doesn’t mean everyone else is.
@Aphrodite801 I am from UK and not bitter ty :) Want to look at bitterness look at feminists clear to see. I actually posted stats above, only 17% of men support feminism in America. Only 26% of people overall support feminism in UK, it also has been as low as 17%. And what exactly is grand achievement of feminism? Toxic masculinity? Masnplaining? Cultural appropriation? Male gaze? I mean really how exactly is feminism elevating the lives of women? Lol :)
Yes you’re obviously bitter. I don’t believe your crap stats, bitter men always lie. Feminists have everything to be proud of, starting with who they are. Feminists are literally everywhere in the world. A hater like you can’t change the fact that feminism is good. It’s also growing now more than ever thankfully.
@Aphrodite801 Trust me calling me bitter because you're upset and BITTER because feminism is on decline isn't going to change anything. Again I am awaiting for you to enlighten us what grand achievement should feminists be proud of today or how they are elevating the lives of their fellow women? :)From what I notice on GAG its mostly girls ranging between age 16-24 that seemed to be strongly attached to feminism. MYTH of gender pay gap is last thing left sustaining feminism, as that myth gets busted it'll be end of feminism.My point here wasn't merely to just bash feminism. But make a statement in reply to @MzAsh, where she stated "They have an attitude against free women who don’t stay home and cook and clean. (Aka anti feminists)"My point was I love independent women, I don't desire traditional partner, same for majority of men. But majority of men do not hate our gender hence don't identify as a feminist. Wanting an independent, ambitious partner is NOT in anyway for us synonymous with supporting feminism :)
^ I’m not reading that. I don’t argue with woman haters. Just sit back, be bitter, and continue watching feminism grow 😁 www.marketwatch.com/.../feminism-is-slowly-taking-over-america-2018-08-14-11884534
You prefer independent and ambitious women then there’s no way you’re anti feminist.
your darn hot what ever age you are :D
@Aphrodite801 A YouGov survey finds that 30% of Americans now identify as feminists, compared to 26% in 201630%, 30% wowww that's just too much :p :D
Feminism is really just the female equivalent of an r/incels circlejerk.At its best, it's a bunch of sexually frustrated women blaming their ineptitude on the evil white man.. At it's worst, its a bunch of vicious bullies that harass, dox and send death threats over a twitter post someone made 10 years ago.
Feminism for me extends to our bodily autonomy. Leave abortion rights alone and don’t touch us without our permission (unless I’m married to you). And we’ll all get along just fine.
Are you married?
Then you're not on the market, and have no idea what your market value is minus a few glances you might get. Try being single at 35 and see how people respond to you. Spoiler: you won't garner anywhere near the attention of even a 29 year old. The wall is real.
Being off the market doesn’t mean the options still don’t present themselves.
@MzAsh these guys are obviously bitter fools. If Meghan Markle can attract straight royalty in her late 30s than why would other women have a problem attracting regular men?
@Aphrodite801 Megan M. knew how to play the game, which most people don't know how to do... at least as well as her (i. e. being in the right place to meet him, knowing how to talk to him, etc etc). If you girls keep taking her, or "timeless" celebrity women (e. g. J-lo) as your model for women over 30 then you're in for a rude awakening when you hit that number, live up your 20's with reckless abandon, and find the kind of guys you want to settle down w/ not interested.
@mattdzz You sound like a bitter fool. Obviously all women under 30 aren’t attractive. For you to say that shows how damn creepy you are. Plenty of women in their 30s have more options than you. Now that’s a fact.
@Aphrodite801 What do I have to be bitter about? You're probably ugly, and have guys tell you how "smart" you are to get you to hookup NSA (before bailing), which is why you think your dumbass little girl opinion has any credibility. Grow tf up, idiot.
Let me just mention that after rejecting my bio father in her 30s my mother finally decided to settle down and marry at 41. She had plenty of men to choose from. She still does. Actually, she’s broken up with my step father, and is now messing with a man 13 years younger than her. They are getting a divorce soon.
@mattdzz lmao are you still mad that I said I only date hot guys? I know I’m attractive. You shouldn’t be calling anyone ugly with that weird shaped face.
@Aphrodite801 Let's see a pic, ugly?
Eh I’m not going to argue with some bitter dude who will be bald in a few years. Just understand that it’s true that many women 30 and over look way better than you. In fact most men would back me up on this. And also have more options than you. Stay bitter.
@Aphrodite801 That's what I though, you're not only an ugly online troll, you've got about five iq points below a chimp :D
@mattdz last words lmao, your hairline is doing backflips.
@Aphrodite801 last words, I'm sure all those guys would say you're a 4/10, just enough to get them to come out after midnite.
I’m about hit 35 and I’m still fertile Myrtle. Can’t wait to be be able to go off birth control but doctors say it will be a while. 20 year olds are still falling in love and trying to replace my man. Granted, many of them don’t know my age and that I’m married but that’s the point. Take care of yourself, lead an interesting life, and you’ll still have options.Besides, most men say they want one thing but in reality they take what they can get. A middle aged decent looking woman still has more options than the average middle aged man.
Interesting you’re such a fool that you don’t even realize you’re going against your own bitter theory about SMV. I’m only 17, so shouldn’t I have all the dating power? Dumbass.
You do know what happens to fertility after 35, right?20 year old guys will fk damn near anything, don't let it get to your head.And, no.
Every guy will fuck damn near anything. Lol
I'd reluctantly agree.
@MzAsh you didn’t answer my question.
It's likely the game is mostly played subconsciously.
While some of it makes sense, especially in the younger ages of boys and girls, but of course, it's pseudoscience". It's all relative to the ages of those looking for love. The value of any human is relative to those in the market.
The theory that as women enter their 30s and 40s they become less wanted by men but as men enter our 30s and 40s we become better looking and dating gets better for us. I agree. My dating and sex life has gotten MUCH better in my 30s while a lot of women I know who are in their 30s and 40s are struggle to find 'good men' and say that they got more attention in their 20s.
I wouldn't worry i love sex with all ages older women are more experienced less immature and still sexy as hell if they look after themselves its the ones that let them selves go that loose out.ye younger girls are fitter and tighter but an older woman thats looked after herself is just as appealing
@ronaldo75 OHH ok thanks for explaining that because I truly did miss the boat on this one.
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YES. You are on clearance though.
Well I can assure, no one is going to want to buy a 48 year old bald man. That’s for sure.
Oh shoot, if we are talking about being able to get sex then yes women 100% lead in that.
@Kas19whats your experience?
I know that... shhhhhh
Hahahahahahahaha Yes it should!
I agree but then my market vakue has always been low. So im probably not the best person to judge
@lilyanonywhy do u say your smv is low?