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If a girl doesn't want to give you her number and finds less confrontational ways to avoid it then you should just take a hint instead of being an entitled creep about it.
YES, THANK YOU!
Exactly!!
@normalice "If a girl doesn't want to give you her number and finds less confrontational ways to avoid it..." - Basically you are saying if a girl wants to be dishonest about giving her number because she is cowardly, that is a perfectly "less confrontational" okay way to go about it. And if the guy doesn't like it or it disappoints him because she was dishonest then he should be okay with that too. Got it.
Rejection doesn't upset men. It's the dishonesty in it that does.
Again, of you don't want to take the hint and make it about some arbitrary social standard for when it is appropriate to tell a polite lie, I suppose I can't stop you. And I don't know if you are just trolling or actually are this rapey in real life, but if so you should know you are at high risk of getting your ass beat to death. I don't make the rules but people generally are intolerant of those who are too self absorbed to be missed. It'll be assumed that even your mother would be quietly relieved after she IDs your body.
@normalice You cannot possibly be this dense, dude. You're asking guys to be okay with a woman using some form of dishonesty about giving her number, but you would probably think a guy is a total piece of shit if he did to women what women do, nor would you think any woman should accept it as taking the hint.
No guy is being any kind of entitled creep because he was offended by it. When two people talk and one asks the other for their number or some form of communication, it isn't wrong. But it is when the other person is actually being the dishonest creep about it. Wanting to a communicate with the other person and go on a date isn't a sin. Being shifty and two-faced is.
There is a long distance between not taking a hint well and not taking no for an answer but they are on the same road.
Women operate on how they FEEL. If she feels you're creepy, you really want her to tell you that? you're blaming a woman for the way YOU make her feel and you're saying that makes HER dishonest? Lololol
That's interesting. I have always offered my number to them. I never ask a girl for her number at all. I just figured it was less threatening that way. I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable or put them on the spot.
"If a girl ever does give you a number, always call it right in front of her to make sure it’s really hers. Put her on the spot so you know right then and there whether she’s bullshitting or being legit."
See, I don't agree with that. I think it's too aggressive.
"Simply showing that you’re aware of what’s happening in the situation is enough to lightly frighten the girl"
But I don't want to frighten anyone -- either lightly or otherwise. I'm not that kind of guy.
That’s a pretty cool thing to do actually especially if you are approaching someone you don’t know that’s how I met my first boyfriend, he gave me his number and left it up to me to call him.
@whirled_up_girl Thanks! ☺️
That's awesome! 😍
"If a girl ever does give you a number, always call it right in front of her to make sure it’s really hers. Put her on the spot so you know right then and there whether she’s bullshitting or being legit."
WTF lmfao. You sound like a psychopath. Who does that?
@Zenit93 i actually like man on fire but I have to agree with you on that one. Never call her number right away to “just confirm”
However there is a way around this. While you are putting in her number you can dial it right in front of her real quick (make sure she sees you do it) and just say “now you got my number.” That’s how people usually exchange numbers anyway.
After that do not text or call her again for at least 5 days. Make her wonder what happened.
@globetrotter22 Yeah, that's what I meant by calling it right away.
You got to be smooth on how you do it. As you put her number in dial it in front of her and let it ring a few moments with a smile on your face (while listening for her phone ring and/or noticing it light up or vibrate if she’s got it right on her).
Truth is though you can usually tell from a woman’s body language if she’s bullshitting or not. If she looks anxious or keeps looking away it’s a bad sign.
@globetrotter22 That's exactly how I do it, yeah.
Women are like this women are like that. What's this nonsense? They aren't a special species. You don't have to give them a special place or upper hand or place them on a pedestal. They are just the female counter part of men. That's it.
If you know how to treat them equally, you are already winning. Doesn't matter if a bunch of cheap minded girls are intimidated by this. A good quality woman won't mind being treated equal and respectful.
Dear men, have some self respect.
This screams "im going to make her like me" desperation vibes. Just give her a business card and keep it moving.
I've gotten the whole "you're going to give me a fake" and its an automatic turn off. Desoerate to be liked.
"I've gotten the whole "you're going to give me a fake" and its an automatic turn off." - Very good that they did. It would turn them off too if you did.
I mean people who do that are cowards anyways and aren't worth being with. People who give fake numbers or can't just use their words... and say NO but in a nice way.
This does more damage leading someone on.
Good I didn't know about the fourth one. We learn something new everyday. Thanks man
I dnt ask for your no.
I ask you out... and we set a rendezvous
Asking for no’s is hectic, and tiresome.
Men should stop approaching women. Look at how many are asking you to stop doing so... maybe it's about time you listened. Listen to Subarugirl, there are many like her who don't want you to approach them.
Don't put her on the spot. You really wanna start a relationship like that if she's being legit? By showing her you don't trust her? Just accept she's not into you if it's bs
She neednt text me If she doesn't want to bit in this case she should not give me a wrong number or así Fit my number If she has no interest. That Is being dishonest.
As I explained to others on this Take, acceptance and just letting it go teaches women that they can keep treating guys like this, because they already know most guys are either not going to have the courage to confront them, or they will let it go because we tell them they should.
In my opinion a man should definitely let a woman know that she's a bullshitter, and let her know that she tried to insult his intelligence and take him for a fool. I've confronted women about it before myself and I will admit that it is very satisfying to see them trying to come up with some bullshit excuse even though you know you caught her in a lie.
@standardguy Exactly. All the selective readers on this Take are failing to understand this.
If a guy asked for my number, I gave it to him, and then he tested me immidietly; I would say never mind on the spot. I’m not into a petty bitch with trust issues
@tiajoka No, it's being smart and not letting himself be setting up to be made a fool of. Everyone I know always calls my number right on the spot when we trade numbers. It's just confirmation, nor does it bother me or make me think they have trust issues.
@tiajoka You have no choice, unfortunately as a man you need to protect your time as well and people are dishonest. I would rather confirm right then and there plus if she is someone your going to invest your time in uou need to display instantly that you're not putting up w/ B. S.
I have a easy number and someone keeps giving my number out and it is FUCKING ANNOYING.
Seriously stop being a coward and just use your words to people who do this shit.
Maybe you should consider getting a pet until you have grown up enough to be able to handle rejection?
😂Go pet your own big and hairy self. I'm doing just fine.
Just curious…what would guys do if they see these red flags? Demand another fake number from the girl not interested in them?
Dude. Were you really reading the whole Take? My advice is that if you catch the girl in a lie you should let her know it. If you can't and she's already gone, you obviously can't do anything about it anyway but move on.
Thats my q. What happens after you let her know she lied? Demand her real number like a psycho?
*facepalm* If that happens, you now know she's not even worth trying to date. If you some girl gave you a fake number and you found it out, would YOU even still want to date her?
So why bother telling her?
Because you want her to know that you are not the fool she took you for. As I explained to others, part of the problem is that guys won't take women to task for the shit they do. Instead they go ranting about MGTOW and Red Pill and all that garbage instead of dealing with the women directly. If guys would do it, women would start changing and realize that they can't pull that shit with them anymore. But they aren't changing because guys are either too scared or because they keep being told to just let it go. Women know the guys are going to go with the latter, so they figure they can keep doing the stuff they do.
When I confront women for their bullshit, it surprises them. One reason I think is because they don't expect it, and some of them believe it or not, have learned to respect me for it. And that's what you want: respect.
Or they focus on it way too much…
If turning a blind eye has worked for you, keep doing it.
How about understanding why chicks feel the need to give you wrong numbers? Because if they said no straight out like you want, more than likely they’ll be targeted by incel bitches.
So let's try to break this down for you. If you know a woman, you guys talk regularly, you are acquaintances, whether it's on your job, school, neighborhood, etc. and you finally decide you want to ask for her number in the hopes you two might go out some time, and she gives you one which you later find out is fake, who is wrong? You are or she is?
Furthermore, everything with you two and all the little convos and run-ins you guys had together were fine, and she never even tried to avoid you, so why would she do something like give you fake number?
And also, this Take is NOT ALL ABOUT A FAKE NUMBER. I think everyone keeps zeroing in on that one because they think it's the only argument they can give out to deflate the message. And it's not working.
Now. What are your answers to those questions?
Just lol at you even carrying. Even if you spot any of this shit, it is quite obvious she does not want things to go any further romantically. So just cut your loses and move on.
Smart phones have ruined dating and courtship.
I definitely think that's true.
Throe in social media too!
@noohair they are one of many factors. But feminism is the original sin.
My cousin never gave guys her number because she couldn't enter a public place without multiple guys flirting with her.
I dislike talking on the phone so never take numbers anyway
Smart move ask for their business card or email address because it's harder to fake
Call it right away? Foreal? Is that what a confident person does? Seems like an insecure thing to do
Everybody does that. Or at least all the people I've swapped numbers with do? Some women have even done it to me. It's just confirmation to see if you get a connection.
bro life is overrated.
I'm ready to be dead now.
@ManOnFire Why bother asking her for their phone number in the age of social media?
I can't believe people still run around asking for phone numbers
What should they be getting instead
@malwins A fucking wife if thats what they want. If they want sex they should hold a sign up "free sex here."