You can always expect from a woman to be a hypocrite because they try to avoid logic and accountability as much as they can since it's always about their "feelings"😂
That's funny because it usually the men I see doing this...
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Yeah right... I knew a woman somewhere would say that, that's you!! Good job blaming the other instead of accountability, I tell you what that accountability is kryptonite to women everywhere
Wow you are emotional today, calm down its okay. I'm not blaming anyone, I am just pointing out what I have personally witnessed, just like you are doing...… wait isn't there a word for not being okay with someone doing the same thing you do... oh right, hypocrisy.
Let me just clarify a few things for you, I know exactly what the majority of men want, I am also aware of what most women want, and that certainly isn't someone with your attitude, its horrible. You sound like a whiny child throwing a tantrum, because he can't get what he wants.
Yep you’re correct. Money and sex are completely different. However, if combined they bring a happy compromise that both sexes can enjoy.😏. Tell me I’m wrong!
@Smashingdoozy what he's trying to say is that the "hypocrisy" as he puts it, is that women will go online or to their friends and cry that there aren't any "good men" out there or say things like "nobody wants me" when in reality, there would be tonnes of guys pining over them in their DMs and whatnot, but they aren't the guys that they want. The guys they want are either already taken or have some major red flags going on for them and they think they can change them
@BullShark mm never experienced that. Guys with red flags tend to have manipulative personalities. Which they are really good at hiding at first. Once you get comfortable that's when the red flags start popping up, but by that point you're struck by lust and puppy love so you often don't immediately notice how bad it actually is.
Having a wide range of people to choose from isn't necessarily a good thing. There are SO many boring people out there who have 0. communication skills, I imagine these are the same people who complain about not being able to get a girlfriend. Messages i frequently get from guys on dating apps are closed ended, they don't ask questions, they don't talk about things that can develop into other topics, it's like talking to a robot.
@BullShark then it's women's fault, there aren't many men out there that the avg woman wants but THERE'S WOMEN TURNING 18 DAILY!!! PLENTY OF SEXY WOMEN, THEY ARE JUST TOO GODDAMN PICKY
@stanhope5 it is, honestly. It's honestly the media that's partly to blame for this too. Guys who are 6 feet tall, drive supercars and make six figures a month are usually always glorified than the everage Joe making a couple hundreds every week at Starbucks and who drives a used 90s Civic. Looks matter as well.
I've known a couple of girls actually who tell me (jokingly or otherwise) that they get DMs all the time from random guys who follow them as if it's some big achievement or something and then follow it up by saying how none of them even look close to what their ex looks or just make fun of their looks in general, even if the said guys are actually good people and genuinely like them, unlike their exes who screwed them over and then cheated on them with their best friends
@Smashingdoozy yeah and in some cases, that's considered the new normal, so much so that it's turned to a trope at this point how all girls fall for the bad boys and the psychos because they're cute and they think they can "fix them" but in reality, he's just draining them and damaging her personality even further. That isn't to say that all girls are like this, but yeah, by the time they realize and their friends are also telling them that the guy's a bad bet, they're already hopelessly in love with them.
Also yes, the zero communication skills part also holds true. It's like they'll ask you what's up, tell you what they're doing currently and then it all goes downhill from there, but when you look at it from a different angle, you gotta remember that most guys don't get taught these things and for majority of us, we just wing it. For some of us like myself, it just comes naturally to me and I try to keep the conversation flowing as it usually would, but when you feel like you're running out of topics to talk to, you could just make an excuse and talk later.
@BullShark those same dudes are the men messaging "hey cutie" "omg you're so sexy" that is unattractive. You're all so quick to judge women for having preferences then go and make shitty comments about women who don't meet yours.
@Smashingdoozy woah hey I'm not judging anyone or meaning to come off as personal, and if it came off as that, I apologize. It's perfectly healthy and normal to have preferences so don't get me wrong there.
All I said was that a lot of women would know some decent guys, be friends with them, know they're a good deal, but still won't go for them because they're usually busy pining after the bad one, thinking they'll change them, and I've seen it happen too often too much.
The creepsters you're talking about are the creepy strangers you'd find online and to them, I'd say don't even acknowledge them with a response or just downright block 'em.
@BullShark I'm not saying you personally. But you also agreed with me that women don't actually know that a dude is "bad" because he is generally manipulative. Women who are looking to change are man are not only rare they're not worth pining over either, manipulation and egotistical personality at it's finest.
I'm Just saying like I am a person who gets messages from random guys on social media. I don't brag about it because I hate It. They're not nice guys. They're literally only messaging because they think I'm attractive. They like how I look and hardly any of them are interested in getting to know me. Believe me I have tried to entertain them but it's always just wanting to get some illicit pictures or a hook up out of me.
Would also like to mention we are the women of the generation that was taught from an incredibly young age that if a boy is being mean to you it means they like you. That teaching has incredibly long term damage and and is a hard thing to shake. We were never taught the warning signs because we were told to embrace them as good things, we were told that getting butterflies is good, gold that getting picked on by someone you like is ok.
@Smashingdoozy I understand that completely and it's definitely a real paradox. Gotta say, I figured as much because I'm from the same generation as well where we were taught that "if a girl smiles at you she likes you" or "you need to be good to all women no matter what" and that just breaks you even further so when you come across some actually terrible people, they use you, manipulate you and then leave you to rot.
As for the messages thing, I can relate to that as well, heck, one of them was from someone from G@G a couple days ago. As always, the conversation grew stale, they told me they found me attractive and to that they wanted to see what I actually looked like, and when I said I'm not interested in dating anyone at the moment they told me to fuck off and that I'm a prick. Hilarious, really
Dude, want a point for starters? A man isn't a failure until he blames someone else. I used to be a whiny nice guy incel bitch like you. Fact is, i was just a singular minded horny guy looking for cunt. And women can see through that nice guy shit. I realized, blaming others didn't get me anywhere. I had to find contentment with myself, build confidence in me. And when I wasn't so focused on the end goal, relationships with women came naturally and the later problem became which of the many to choose from. So get a grip on yourself...
My 4 ex girlfriend's were like that. All the girls I just wanted to become friends with and see where things go eye like that. The girl who falsely accused me was definitely like that. I don't know any women my generation who aren't like that.
Exactly! Why shame women? Shame human nature and get over with it. I'm sick with all these posters insulting their opposite sex. Everyone calls women 'bitches' here but after one month here I assure that men complain about women more than we do to them.
Behind every pissed off incel is some “bitch” that insulted his manhood. People are just shit. These people will die alone. Many will die alone. Enough said.
@rania05 who’s opinion do you think society cares more about men or women? I can help you with that answer. A woman’s cry for help has traditionally been met with guys lined up to help while mens has been not only ignored but we’re look down on as weak and failures. It takes women moving and speaking out to make change. These days your obviously in a better position politically as a woman. People are even hired right now just for being a woman.
And pressing a few women isn’t gonna make any change… there’s always gonna be simps out there to make them feel good. If we want the shitty women to change we gotta press them all. Women should control women since it’s unacceptable for men to do it. Men have always been the bystanders that came to help at a crisis. It’s been men controlling violence when it’s seen against women. But women don’t police their own anymore so let’s press them all for real change.
@ElvenMr Same advice to women bitching about guys who treat them like shit; red flags are there for a reason. If a woman is giving you a hard time, LEAVE! You have a choice. There are billions of people in the world, thousands in your area. Why get mad at women as a whole when you can simply just find a new bitch with a better personality.
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I have noticed rage from women when confronted with objective reality
This hypocrisy is allowed among female peers
I don't know and idc. I am happy and not frivolous and plan to stay with one for life so this isn’t an issue for me.
Look up "hypocracy" in the dictionary.
There's more than an 80% chance that you'll find a woman's picture there.
Without reading any comments
The women are deflecting and making a question that has nothing to do with men about men and shaming any male who criticizes a woman
The men are agreeing or trolling
Men pick women expecting them not ccx to change, they do.
Women pick men expecting them to change, they don't.
With guys you get what you paid for, that's it. You aren't going fo nurture something that wasn't there in the first place.
I can guarantee if you're a decent dude, with a good sense of humor, self awareness and self confidence, you won't have any problems...
Many women are brats I understand your pain 😅
maybe some women still believe in fairy tales and have unrealistic expectations while being able to be fully independent
Yea, these girls break so many hearts lol
Yes it's real. But you can't tell a woman anything so don't try. Just let them figure it out on there own. Some won't but most will... eventually.
You can always expect from a woman to be a hypocrite because they try to avoid logic and accountability as much as they can since it's always about their "feelings"😂
Best to ignore those bitches
But they're everywhere
Then get good at ignoring em just manipulate them that’s what I do.
Your mother must be so proud of you..
Yes, it is obviously a generalization statement (there are plenty of hypocritical men too) but as a gender they are more on average than men.
Hypocrisy is for women what water is for the fish. They can't live without it.
That's funny because it usually the men I see doing this...
Yeah right... I knew a woman somewhere would say that, that's you!! Good job blaming the other instead of accountability, I tell you what that accountability is kryptonite to women everywhere
Wow you are emotional today, calm down its okay. I'm not blaming anyone, I am just pointing out what I have personally witnessed, just like you are doing...… wait isn't there a word for not being okay with someone doing the same thing you do... oh right, hypocrisy.
Let me just clarify a few things for you, I know exactly what the majority of men want, I am also aware of what most women want, and that certainly isn't someone with your attitude, its horrible. You sound like a whiny child throwing a tantrum, because he can't get what he wants.
Yep you’re correct. Money and sex are completely different. However, if combined they bring a happy compromise that both sexes can enjoy.😏. Tell me I’m wrong!
@Whitewullff a lot of men would disagree with that
What? What? and what? This makes no sense. Like literally grammatically makes no sense.
While I nearly suffered a stroke trying to read this, the meaning can actually peered from it. The validity is debatable, but try again.
@FireFox001 I literally can't make sense of it
@Smashingdoozy what he's trying to say is that the "hypocrisy" as he puts it, is that women will go online or to their friends and cry that there aren't any "good men" out there or say things like "nobody wants me" when in reality, there would be tonnes of guys pining over them in their DMs and whatnot, but they aren't the guys that they want. The guys they want are either already taken or have some major red flags going on for them and they think they can change them
@BullShark mm never experienced that. Guys with red flags tend to have manipulative personalities. Which they are really good at hiding at first. Once you get comfortable that's when the red flags start popping up, but by that point you're struck by lust and puppy love so you often don't immediately notice how bad it actually is.
Having a wide range of people to choose from isn't necessarily a good thing. There are SO many boring people out there who have 0. communication skills, I imagine these are the same people who complain about not being able to get a girlfriend. Messages i frequently get from guys on dating apps are closed ended, they don't ask questions, they don't talk about things that can develop into other topics, it's like talking to a robot.
Thanks for explaining, I didn't have the time. But yes, basically I agree with BullShark on what OP meant.
The talking to a robot thing happens, when someone is not that interested in even talking to you. It happens with men and women too.
@BullShark then it's women's fault, there aren't many men out there that the avg woman wants but THERE'S WOMEN TURNING 18 DAILY!!! PLENTY OF SEXY WOMEN, THEY ARE JUST TOO GODDAMN PICKY
@stanhope5 it is, honestly. It's honestly the media that's partly to blame for this too. Guys who are 6 feet tall, drive supercars and make six figures a month are usually always glorified than the everage Joe making a couple hundreds every week at Starbucks and who drives a used 90s Civic. Looks matter as well.
I've known a couple of girls actually who tell me (jokingly or otherwise) that they get DMs all the time from random guys who follow them as if it's some big achievement or something and then follow it up by saying how none of them even look close to what their ex looks or just make fun of their looks in general, even if the said guys are actually good people and genuinely like them, unlike their exes who screwed them over and then cheated on them with their best friends
@Smashingdoozy yeah and in some cases, that's considered the new normal, so much so that it's turned to a trope at this point how all girls fall for the bad boys and the psychos because they're cute and they think they can "fix them" but in reality, he's just draining them and damaging her personality even further. That isn't to say that all girls are like this, but yeah, by the time they realize and their friends are also telling them that the guy's a bad bet, they're already hopelessly in love with them.
Also yes, the zero communication skills part also holds true. It's like they'll ask you what's up, tell you what they're doing currently and then it all goes downhill from there, but when you look at it from a different angle, you gotta remember that most guys don't get taught these things and for majority of us, we just wing it. For some of us like myself, it just comes naturally to me and I try to keep the conversation flowing as it usually would, but when you feel like you're running out of topics to talk to, you could just make an excuse and talk later.
@BullShark those same dudes are the men messaging "hey cutie" "omg you're so sexy" that is unattractive. You're all so quick to judge women for having preferences then go and make shitty comments about women who don't meet yours.
@BullShark women don't get taught these things either. It's just common sense of a conversation...
@Smashingdoozy woah hey I'm not judging anyone or meaning to come off as personal, and if it came off as that, I apologize. It's perfectly healthy and normal to have preferences so don't get me wrong there.
All I said was that a lot of women would know some decent guys, be friends with them, know they're a good deal, but still won't go for them because they're usually busy pining after the bad one, thinking they'll change them, and I've seen it happen too often too much.
The creepsters you're talking about are the creepy strangers you'd find online and to them, I'd say don't even acknowledge them with a response or just downright block 'em.
@BullShark I'm not saying you personally. But you also agreed with me that women don't actually know that a dude is "bad" because he is generally manipulative. Women who are looking to change are man are not only rare they're not worth pining over either, manipulation and egotistical personality at it's finest.
I'm Just saying like I am a person who gets messages from random guys on social media. I don't brag about it because I hate It. They're not nice guys. They're literally only messaging because they think I'm attractive. They like how I look and hardly any of them are interested in getting to know me. Believe me I have tried to entertain them but it's always just wanting to get some illicit pictures or a hook up out of me.
Would also like to mention we are the women of the generation that was taught from an incredibly young age that if a boy is being mean to you it means they like you. That teaching has incredibly long term damage and and is a hard thing to shake. We were never taught the warning signs because we were told to embrace them as good things, we were told that getting butterflies is good, gold that getting picked on by someone you like is ok.
@Smashingdoozy I understand that completely and it's definitely a real paradox. Gotta say, I figured as much because I'm from the same generation as well where we were taught that "if a girl smiles at you she likes you" or "you need to be good to all women no matter what" and that just breaks you even further so when you come across some actually terrible people, they use you, manipulate you and then leave you to rot.
As for the messages thing, I can relate to that as well, heck, one of them was from someone from G@G a couple days ago. As always, the conversation grew stale, they told me they found me attractive and to that they wanted to see what I actually looked like, and when I said I'm not interested in dating anyone at the moment they told me to fuck off and that I'm a prick. Hilarious, really
Look men here goes the typical shame tactic women use, don't engage
Dude, want a point for starters? A man isn't a failure until he blames someone else. I used to be a whiny nice guy incel bitch like you. Fact is, i was just a singular minded horny guy looking for cunt. And women can see through that nice guy shit. I realized, blaming others didn't get me anywhere. I had to find contentment with myself, build confidence in me. And when I wasn't so focused on the end goal, relationships with women came naturally and the later problem became which of the many to choose from. So get a grip on yourself...
@mobiusforniner Dude I will fuck you up! Your a incel punk ass bitch
talk about the girls you've met... not everyone is like that, as not all men are the same.
If we're here talking about exceptions we're going be here all day, YOUR SEEKING A WAY TO ESCAPE ACCOUNTABILITY LIKE EVERY WOMAN ON THIS PLANET
bruh you are generalising. Get over it. Not everyone is like that.
My 4 ex girlfriend's were like that. All the girls I just wanted to become friends with and see where things go eye like that. The girl who falsely accused me was definitely like that. I don't know any women my generation who aren't like that.
@SolitarySolace talk about bad luck 😬 I'm sorry
Men can't either. Most men want a woman who's a 9 or 10 and most end up with a 6 or 7 in most cases.
I hate 9s and 10s… their usually crazy and I dislike overly hot people. Give me a 6 any day and Ide prefer it.
You've dated 9 or 10s?
I wouldn’t. I’m not attracted to them.
Women suck. Men suck. The end.
Nope just women
gay men suck. And, women, well
Do you need a Midol?
Hahah I am pretty sure that he does, Obviously its that time of the month for him
@Subarugirl that or he needs to point on the doll where he was hurt. But I definitely think he is PMSing.
he's just pissy because no woman will put up with someone like him and that hurts his fragile little ego.
@Subarugirl awh! Poor little boy!
Careful, he might figure out that he's projecting and that would destroy what's left of that tiny ego.
@Subarugirl oh, right! Thanks for the reminder. 🤭
Or worse yet, he's giving off some major Scott Beierle vibes...
@Subarugirl oh dear. Let’s just hope he is a harmless incel.
Let’s hope
@Subarugirl but he certainly thinks all of his problems are our fault.
Hilarious how he says “just women” and in another comment talks about women not taking accountability.
@MzAsh its ok, he’s just PMSing.
Some girls and guys are hypocrites. Look at the guys on here complaining
Found a simp y'all
Why am I not surprised the mgtow labels me. Not even feeling pity for you anymore
And you shame like a woman 😆😆😆
Your a part of the problem
It’s you’re and there isn’t a problem. Hypocrites will always exist in humanity. Too often people are scared of being honest
How does a woman shame?
Exactly! Why shame women? Shame human nature and get over with it. I'm sick with all these posters insulting their opposite sex. Everyone calls women 'bitches' here but after one month here I assure that men complain about women more than we do to them.
Behind every pissed off incel is some “bitch” that insulted his manhood. People are just shit. These people will die alone. Many will die alone. Enough said.
Then take revenge on that 'chick' and stop pointing fingers on women!
@rania05 who’s opinion do you think society cares more about men or women? I can help you with that answer. A woman’s cry for help has traditionally been met with guys lined up to help while mens has been not only ignored but we’re look down on as weak and failures. It takes women moving and speaking out to make change. These days your obviously in a better position politically as a woman. People are even hired right now just for being a woman.
And pressing a few women isn’t gonna make any change… there’s always gonna be simps out there to make them feel good. If we want the shitty women to change we gotta press them all. Women should control women since it’s unacceptable for men to do it. Men have always been the bystanders that came to help at a crisis. It’s been men controlling violence when it’s seen against women. But women don’t police their own anymore so let’s press them all for real change.
Then don't go after those type of women.
That's like saying to a girl to stop picking Chad over literally anyone else. Yet she still does it, then complains how he did her wrong a year later.
It's not as easy to just don't chase after these type of women.
And kinda irrelevant to this question too.
@ElvenMr
Same advice to women bitching about guys who treat them like shit; red flags are there for a reason. If a woman is giving you a hard time, LEAVE! You have a choice. There are billions of people in the world, thousands in your area. Why get mad at women as a whole when you can simply just find a new bitch with a better personality.
I think some people have a hard time just moving on like that, because they had a hard time finding someone they like in the first place.