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Sorry, I ranted off.To summarize, that's just plain stupid.
It isn't limited to sexual objectification.
Can you please elaborate, I'm confused.
Men that see you and treat you as something they own not an autonomous person. Since you aren't a person you aren't entitled to your own opinions and preferences.
Well, I treat women as people. I just don't want to hear their girl problems. lol.
No, girls ask for validation bc they live in a society where women are openly graded on their bodies.
Objectification isn't "evolution", its culture.
@RachelBrigs take one course of evolutionary psychology. The culture myth has been debunked.
Maybe you and I are defining objectification differently.
@RachelBrigs possibly, but I doubt it.
Obviously we all sexually objectify others in our minds. But there's a difference between that and treating someone as nothing more than a sexual object and openly critiquing their bodies, like guys who will sit around in public and rate passing girls out loud and compare them to each other. That shit isn't "evolutionary psychology" that's being a pig
@RachelBrigs I think Thornhill would disagree with you, but, to be honest, I don't consider rude speech to be a big enough problem to worry about. I remember a pair of drunk girls that wanted me to give them a ride from a bar once told me I had a tiny dick for not taking them. They even threatened to claim that tried to rape them, which could have ruined my life. I just told them that they proved giving them a ride was more dangerous for me than not giving them one and I went along my way. I understand I have a thicker skin than most, but you can't go through life if you let the words of the dredges of society hold weight in your mind.
I wasn't complaining exactly now was I? I wasn't trying to say guys were worse than girls either so your little story was extremely irrelevant. It may not be a big deal to you but it is to many women but that's beside the point... the point is that it isn't just "evolution. " it seems like all crass behavior that guys exhibit is excused by nature and evolution. But its one thing to see a girl and think "she has nice boobs but could lose ten pounds... oh and her friend has a nice ass" and a completely different thing to call that chick sugar tits and tell her to drop ten pounds and that she should have an ass like her friends. Yes this happens. That's just being rude.
I'll reiterate cause I'm sure you still won't get it. That's not evolution.
@RachelBrigs NOW I see your problem: like a true feminist, you confuse facts and ideology.Look, did I ever ONCE say that natural impulses are an excuse for bad behavior? Of course not! But if you keep lying that all of the worlds problems are created by society, you will never solve them. Because you are treating symptoms rather than the disease.And if you think we all lived in perfect harmony before civilization, I invite you to return to the wild. See what men do when there is no system of government to keep them civilized. Take a look at Somalia.
I'm not a "feminist. " you're confusing a few words I've said with all the social justice mega feminist shit you've read online time after time. You're thinking "oh here's a girl online complaining about something men do, SHE HAS TO BE AN IGNORANT OVERLY EMOTIONAL FEMINIST!"when in reality that's not true at all, sorry. I'm simply saying that the behavior I'm discussing is rude and is not a result of a deeply ingrained evolutionary trait. It is more culture than anything. That doesn't mean that I think all or most human behavior and tendencies is guided by false cultural ideals rather than human nature. You're making a wild assumption. I'm not "one of those. "And for you to say that I think people behaved better before "civilization"... are you off your meds? You pulled that out of your ass. I don't think that? Not really sure who in the entire world does? Turn off the computer for the week hun. You are clearly too used to arguing with the nut jobs that sit on the screen all day.
You need to learn how to debate and argue with a person based on what THEY are saying specifically instead of arguing with arguments they've never even presented. Rather you're just putting those arguments in their mouths. Which is exactly what those extreme Internet feminists do... guess you've got that in common
I think some men do it and don't realize. It can be something like never respecting her positio s on things if you don't understand or disregarding her as crazy anytime you have a disagreement.