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I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve. Girls' taste isn't going to change whether they're shallow or not. The way that the sexes are divided can only be changed by women becoming less slutty and men more cocky.
As these posts are usually based on personal experience, here's mine: during history class, you see pictures of all sorts of not so attractive male figures, but with remarkable ranks. Well. Although they were generally ugly, old men, I thought they were attractive. Because they overpowered me through their rank. I think that is what women want. Men. Not guys or boys, but men with status. Put the average guy in an armor and he becomes 10 times hotter. "But we can't go back to medieval times!"
No, but we can train women to know their place, and men to guide them lovingly. Peace out.
I don't know. It seems to me that most men put a lot of value on appearance, whereas a lot of women tend to care more about things like nice shoes, new cars, a big house, lots of money, etc. Men are more shallow when it comes to aesthetics. Women are more shallow in a materialistic kind of way. It's because their maternal instinct drives them to seek a mate who can provide for her and her offspring.
Girls are a lot more shallow then they used to be. As the saying goes "the nice guy finishes last". I blame it one TV Magazines and social media. Some areas are worse then others. My general area is one of the worse. I am the shy type but have a great personality when you get to know me better. The girls have one 10 minute convo with me then I never hear from them again. I will admit I am not the best looking guy. They say women decide whether they will give a guy a chance or not in the first 5 seconds.
I'm just gonna be that guy and defend the gals here. I think YOU have to stop being a dick about girls being shallow. Guys are just as shallow. Not more shallow, not less shallow. WE are human. We ARE shallow. Deal with it. There's nobody to blame.
We want better looking offspring and security4 our unborn children. and a strong male cd provide tht. as a women we need a protector so altho we cd like a nice guy he shdnt b a wimp. its jst millions of years in our DNA so dnt hate. rather do wteva u can 2 improve urself jst do you and watch women flock2u
What are women doing to better themselves? This is the point that is being made is that it is entirely one sided, if men follow their natural instincts they are shamed, if women do just about anything they are praised or defended. The inconsistency is the problem.
Also the fact that men are bombarded with crap from women telling them to be the nice guy and that women like nice guys when clearly that is not entirely true is also a sorce of frustration for many men.
Good, i'm glad to hear you admit that it's all about looks! As far as improving yourself... sweetheart, you can't improve yourself if you're ugly!!
And as you admitted (you typical shallow wh0re) it's all about having handsome kids... which you only get from a handsome man.. not an ugly guy like me who "improved" himself.
By the way, like a typical woman, you have the literacy of a 5 year old. hahaha
What a fucked up agenda, dont hate but people, it seems we have a woman whos actaully telling the truth and i respect that, it may be a heartless and self centred reason buts she's saying what woman can't admit to themselves, there labled over the decades as the emotional ones so can't admit to the defeat that men have come even more so now, but why? you're all so caught up with how others percieve you and if that means you're with a "tall/muscular/large ;)/chiseled" man, it makes you look better to other woman, it created jealously amoungst you and then you all turn into desperate rabid dogs. Its never about the guy its all about yourselfs... we have a hand for a dick you have a hand for a clit, wherea the dildo coming from, you're all wild animals now. You all crave off of unrealistic fantasies... cough 50 shades of grey etc. Like how fucking ignorant can you be, you all chae false fantasies, in this case Christian grey. Statistics people. Use them.
You know what? I blame the media for the creation of shallowness. We weren't born with high standards... it was until we began to watch movies like Cinderella, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, the Little Mermaid, and superhero shows like Superman and Batman.
Guys would most of the time always pick the better looking women even if she had a bad personality. Women, would rather go for one with manners and a good heart when it comes down to the choice. We are very selective, but not in a superficial way
I'm gonna have to beg to differ on men always picking better looking girls regardless of personality. Example: I met two girls at a bar one night, and one of them was very rude but very physically attractive. The other one was more shy and not as attractive as the rude one, physically, but clearly she was a kind-hearted soul. I got both of their numbers. I never contacted the rude one. I did contact the nice one.
I think men's preference physically does play an important factor, but it is less important than you think. I think most men will not date girls who do not meet up to a certain amount of their physical standards, but they will date any girl who is at or above these physical standards and from that point will judge on personality. Like (sorry to use the rating system but it works here) say you have two girls, one, is an 7 looks-wise, the other a 9, but the 9 is a bitch. If I only date 6's and up, I'll definitely pick the 7. There is a certain point where looks don't matter.
Congratulations sweetheart, you have officially posted the most retarted comment on this thread. If you really think any woman would be attracted to manners or a good heart, you have watched far, far to many of those incredibly stupid romantic comedies and have a severely skewed perception of reality.
Please go back to watching your soaps and wating bon bons.
Bs... I know from personal experience that this isn't true.
I lived with my best friend for three years, and in that time saw many many girls come and go. But wouldn't give me the time of day, just because he was better looking than I am. And he was a complete dick who didn't care about them, and they knew it and liked it. They just went for him because he was handsome.
This is inaccurate i'm sorry. I'm going to go back to this saying if you give a man a cake he will eat it meaning fr that girl that is more attractive is mean or whatever i agree he probably going to hit it a few times and eventually quit it and eventually be with that girl who has been there for him and nice to him even if she is less attractive. No guy wants a girl that don't know how to act right. Whereas for a girl that guy is treating her bad no problem she gon continue to be with him then when he screws her over she gonna sit and complain sayinc that all men are dogs when you got that nice guy that has been nothing but good to her from day 1 that she still is ignoring. Honestly got to get it together, looks are yes indeed nice to look at but at the end of the day it should not define love. Love has no features
Yeah a lot of women are shallow. The question you should be asking is, "Why are you chasing shallow women?" Why would anyone, with good sense and is looking for a decent lover be so indiscriminate In terms of personal depth, to give any thought or attention at all to all of the shallow and miserable women out there. There are plenty of good ones out there. You just need to get past what's on the surface and learn what to look for in a person
There is power in the word "Bitch" if we like to admit it or not There is power in the word "Bastard" if we like to admit it or not. No woman wants a guy that will take her pet puppy outside and bash it to death but thats exactly what they throw themselves at and No man wants a woman who drips down her leg another mans cum but thats exactly what men throw themselves at... its a messed up world.
I do not reject guys out of hand. For me to say no to hanging out or a single date, has to be a good reason. I believe in fair chances.
Maybe you should talk to some of the women who never get asked out, aren't considered pretty by prevailing beauty standards, etc. You might have something in common. E. g. humanity.
Shallowness and pickiness are contradictory. Someone who is very selective is more likely to look at the complete person, and someone who isn't selective will settle just for looks (because it is just for short term )
Because they can be. They don't want ugly or unattractive guys. It's just how it is. We have to aim low.
Girls are picky because of biology. Its that simple.
men rape and pillage women because of biology
and have as many children as they can regardless of how women feel
@Wolfbringer22 I can see why it says single on your profile
am I wrong? or did you want an excuse because last time I checked men aren't really allowed to have any but girls wanna say equality.
oh sorry that right girls want to do the same things as men but with none of the responsibility
I'll keep that in mind
This doesn't account for the increaing trend of pickyness. They are becomng more pickythen before which means it is not biological its social. In surveys done when showed pictures of men they stated that 80% where below average. For men it was a perfect bell curve. people tend to be attracted to people of similar quality, 5 to 5, 8 to 8, and so on. The fact that women where finding so many men as unattractive would suggest women valuing themselves far above their actual value. Most likely due to the fact that our society has become so gynocentric that women are told in that they are important and special essentially just for existing while also being told that men regardless of what they do are not so important, this would also explain the high divorce rate 80 percent of which is filed by women, most of which are no fault (be for no fault divorce, the rate was at 9% instead of today's 50%), 12% are filed by men whose wives where unfaithul. This seems more like a social issue.
@hellionthesage I could agree with that. I think biological both genders are picky but over time both sexes have gotten picky (more so women) because guys let it happen.
I think it's also partly as there are more men than women even with your longer life expectancy.
en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio
Though to me it doesn't explain why on the okcupid survey, 80% of men are below average looking according to women. While most men's views on women's looks represent a near perfect bell curve maybe that's just online dating but even so it seems like a very big difference.
How can we have equality when men on average are physically just superior on average i could guess over 70% along with IQ dont take it as a hate comment take it as statistical evidence. Just kidding Stephanie hawking.. and Charlotte darwin... oh wait...
Numbers people. Numbers. Stop confusing opinions with facts
You say "men let woman get more picky' ... what... im sorry what hshahahahhaahhahahahaha, you claim equal rights yet you can't make a a decision without being influenced by a guy. What is wrong with you lot
@hellionthesage its obviously a social issue, THANK THE FEMINSTS, all you woman have literally suggested is that you have no regard for mens emotions and see them as only for physical properties yet you guys claim to be more emotional, wow.
@David10 It is primarily a social issue yes. Feminism is not helping as well. However its also because men refuse to restrain themselves. If women wish to function this way and are able to do so it is only because they have options ie men are willing to put up with more to get sex/relationship then women. If men restrain themselves as a group then women will be forced to reprioritize their "standards" to one that would be more favorable towards men. The one more invested has the least power, currently men due to biology are more invested, they want sex/relationship more then women which means women dictate the price of that.
@David10 you're retarded. I've never advocated for gender equality.
i think we all are to an extent, but they have to be more picky since they carry a baby for 9 months, even though we have the pill now that doesn't change thousands of years of evolution!
Actually women care more about height then they do about a mans face
this is because women started taking advise from other women about men.
Ok there prob just ducking with us and there playing hard to get SOME not ALL
Why are guys so shallow and picky in girls?
They aren't. They usually go for any girl with little worry about how they appear.
Guys can be just as shallow as any girl. Saying otherwise is a blatant lie.
So predictable. Not a surprise you'd immediately point fingers back at men. Yeah we do it too but compared to women we're practically amateurs when it comes to being shallow and picky, not to mention women aren't demonized as much. Also, EVERYONE was shallow and picky back in high school and early years of college. After that we're suppose to have matured, yet there are still people well in their 30's, 40's and 50's who still have the same kind of mentality.
Its not men who look at anorexic models or write the articles in magazines to tell women how they should look. Its not men telling people that "real" women have curves. It is however, women that feel perfectly justified in not dating a guy who is short, who doesn't "take care" (have muscle) of himself, who is a deadbeat (no money), or "lacks" confidence (not an alpha male/asshole). If you go online and look for porn you will notice that their are guys who find flat cheasted girls attractive, busty girls, chubby or out right fat, skinny, short, tall, blonde, brunette, redhead, tattooed or not tattooed. Punk or tomboyish, slutty or demure men are much more excepting then women because by natue we have to try a hell of a lot harder to get into a relationship then women since where the "pursuer" as it were. This means we deal with a lot more rejection than women and tend to keep what we have because we put so much damn effort into getting it (relationship).
Honestly, a lot of this was to much to read. To many times we can find people getting all emotional and angry over what somewhat says on the Internet, forgetting that it's just their opinion/it's only 100% true in their world.
With that being said, I'm one who doesn't fit into any category. I'm black but I could care less for basketball, rap, thuggin', or whatever else society stereotypeso young black men as. In fact, in high school I went from popular to a nobody just because I didn't rap and I couldn't play football (nor did I care for it), so I grew up being told that I'm a white man trapped in a black man's body. To me, that shallow, as well as people judging the character of a person based off of their skin color, sexual orientation, religion, etc. But that's just me. (Also, I know that has nothing really to do with the OP question, but it will make sense by the end of this I swear.)
So the reason I came across this site was because my insecurities had me questioning my worth and value for a bit due to my luck on online dating sites. I prefer to meet women in person, but due to being somewhat socially awkward, not very charismatic, and the simple fact that with smartphones and technology everyone's in their own little world, I can't. So I'm left with trying my luck out online.
Well, part of me knows the reason why I feel women are shallow (or some women I should say) and I think it all plays apart in our general makeup. On average, I'm willing to bet that women get approached by men for whatever reason X amount of times more than vis versa. And to me, that's where the frustration lies in both sides. Women want a good guy, but they have to become picky and borderline shallow to shuffle out all of the obvious bad ones, and unfortunately good guys who aren't charismatic, or they're awkward, get thrown into that mix too. On the guys side, they aren't approached...
At all, or very rarely, so it appears that women just aren't giving them the time of day. Also, women get annoyed of men constantly hitting on them (in my opinion) and so she becomes picky with the men that she meets. Unfortunately, this can have a bad effect and response because bad guys generally can play the field really well and deceive women, while good guys tend to come off as weird and awkward... unfortunately. As for guys though, since we're not approached as much as women are, it means a lot more to us when a girl speaks to us because we then feel that someone is actually giving us a chance. So whether she's 4'9 or 6'2 or 98lbs or 240lbs, we tend to take it all in because... let's be real, we want love too.
The main problem I see between the two is communication. Women being picky, and for good reason, end up getting trapped up in relationships that appeared to be different in the beginning while guys... well you know, nice guys finish last. (There's a reason for that) ...
And because of the communication flaw between both genders (again in my opinion) that's why guys are seen as sexist, bigoted Jerks and women come off as shallow, picky bitches. I honestly think both sides would/could be happy if they started going for those who are not inside their box. I mean, when you look at couples who've been together for decades, the person that makes them happy are usually those who did not fit into their initial box, but they were exactly that their box needed all along. And I think that applies to both men and women.
Now, as for me, again in myour opinion, I find dating to be hard... for me... for several reasons. One, I'm not charismatic, two I don't fit into the American black stereotype, three (HAHA) I mostly don't fit into the American Mans' stereotype either... I'm just me. So when I meet someone, not only am I faced with the reality of why men are rejected by women, but I also experience the race thing, which is not cool. And I could go further into it...
But I won't because I also feel that I sometimes think and talk to much! But I just wanted to add that because I feel that to a degree, everyone is shallow, whether it's to their selves or to others and the only real way to happiness is to just stop trying to fit something into their box and just be okay with that individual being to good and special to be just another collectors item.
Haha Funny coming from a guy.