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If you want the bare truth, here it is:
Men do care about the social status of a woman. At least quality men do.
But how we rate your social status is very, very different from how you rate ours.
It doesn't matter to us how much you earn. It doesn't matter to us how "high end" your job is.
Social status to us is pretty much your percieved sexual status. Now hear me out.
This is literally how we rank women, not in terms of attractiveness, but in terms of how likely we would be to commit.
If you have had many sexual partners, and a lot of people know it, your social status goes down a lot.
If you have had many sexual partners, and only the partners, friends or a few people know, your social status goes down, but not as much as above.
If you haven't have had many sexual partners, but for some reason, people think you did, your social status goes down.
Now , for the following scenarios, just keep in mind the more people know these things, the lower your social status gets.
If you ever given sex for money, your social status goes down.
If you are a practising prostitute, your social status is almost non existent.
If you have slutty girlfriends, your social status goes down.
If you have a big number of male friends, your social status slightly goes down.
If you are a party girl, and like to drink, your social status goes down.
If you have had many boyfriends, your social status slightly goes down.
If you have ever cheated/been unloyal, your social status goes down.
If you keep posting boob/ass shots on social media, your social status goes down.
If you ever participated in a 3some, gangbang, had a ons, had an open relationship or a fwb/fb situation, your social status goes down to various degrees.
Every couple years after the age of 35(argued 40, by some friends of mine) your social status slightly decreses by a bit.
So, the basic thing to take from this is that as a woman, you start out with top level social status, but your actions lower it.(the opposite of a male's where he has to obtain it)
The more slutty and less trustwirthy those actions seem, the lower it gets.
Also note that "social status" in this situation has absolutely nothing to do with attractiveness. They are unrelated. You can still be of very low social status and be incredibly attractive.
The key of social status here is commitment.
In other words, if you are of lower status (but attractive) , men still want to have intercourse with you , but they dont want to commit.
If you have high social status and are attractive, men will still want to fuck you, but they will also offer commitment.
And just in case you are wondering, an unattractive woman with a high social status is a lot more likely to recieve committment than an attractive woman of lower social status.
Thats just how it is.
This is why dads (and moms) are very protective of their daughters and dont want them to have sex.
Also why brothers are instinctually protective of sisters.
We dont want the women in our family to have a low social status.
Anyway, hope you understand , and i hope you dont get upset over it. Good day😊
Truth af
@yourmad101338 thanks, i hope ot wasn't the original poster who downvoted me. I was hoping that she would get the point. But this post is definitely gonna offend some women.
Men don't really tend to care that much about a woman's status or her job, if anything for us, apart from personality of course it's mainly looks that get the attention of men. How many rich guys go for younger hot women vs older women with careers? Many older career women complain that they can't find good men and that many of the men their age go for younger women. Well that's because men and women look for different things in a partner instinctively. Women look for a man who can provide and protect her and her children (status, power, money, height, athleticism), men look for a woman who can have healthy children (youth, good skin and hair, healthy weight). Those are the things that attract a guy.
If anything it's feminism that teaches women that they're not worth anything without a big salary and a career like a man, and they degrade the role of Motherhood. But ultimately the things we find attractive in a partner are all about finding the best partner to create the strongest offspring. Feminists aren't known for being realistic when it comes to biology though are they?
This doesn't answer your question but I'd like to address a point you made- every single person should realize how significant and relevant their professions are. If we were all doctors and lawyers who would provide us with food and shelter? We need to have all these different professions that greatly contribute to society- I have the utmost respect for sanitation workers without whom our communities would literally be trashy. I have the utmost respect for bakers because sometimes a nice loaf of bread or a beautiful cake is what it takes to turn someone's day into a happy one.
I hope you and everyone out there will have more pride for your professions.
-nurse
Because of the feminist movement, people should have already opened their eyes and started accepting the different classes of society (intersectional feminism). So feminism shouldn’t have anything to do with certain men wanting powerful women.
Actually in a lot of cases it seems like the man prefers it when his girl is making less than him/has less status because his fragile hypermasculine ego wouldn’t be able to handle it if she was better than him.
But luckily there are men out there who just don’t give a fuck and are happy as long as you’re happy, whether that’s as a CEO or a baker.
I have yet to meet someone who doesn't approve of me wanting to be a psychologist, i even went into a nursing home and a lot of them asked for my future plans, i assumed that somehow they would be sexist because feminism taught me old people are all conservative and want me to be making sandwiches or something and i was hesitant but i told them my plans and they were all overjoyed saying they wished their grandchildren were that determined. And I've dated men, none of which scoffed at my plans. My own dad even told me I should become a doctor or a lawyer when i was looking into careers, and he's a trump supporter.
@Gianna17 that's great! And I wonder what kind of feminists you've been listening to who have told you that all old people are conservative/sexist... I mean, women today wouldn't be where we are if it weren't for these exact people fighting for our rights years and years ago. It's a big part of feminist history so I truly wonder what kind of backwards feminist has told you that. I'm glad that you've also had a supportive family and that the men you've dated have valued your choices :)
@Gianna17 oh, and I can see how my first sentence might be a bit misleading, I never meant that the feminist movement has singlehandedly achieved this, it was just a clumsy way of me saying that feminism (intersectional feminism specifically) has tried to get rid of, for instance, classism or judgment towards people of different classes/socioeconomic backgrounds.
Obviously most don't want to date a bum who lives off of them but if they really liked you i doubt they would care if you were not a lawyer or something. Just keep doing your own thing and work towards being as independent as possible and guys will respect that.
No most men don't. Most men are lookinf for a woman to settle down with that will be able to have and care for his children. Men typically want to be the bread winners and provide care for their families. They could care less if the woman has a minimum wage job
Obviously since women get pregnant and have to take care of children they need a guy who can support a family. Unless the woman wants no children than she probably would care less
You take care of the children by going out and working. Not everyone believes in the feminist bullshit where the man will stay home
You obviously can't read, must be your feminist white knight syndrome affecting you. If women want children most want to be provided for. However like I stated before if she doesn't and wants to work she won't care what her man makes. You want to fight for women's rights yet don't even let a woman express the way she thinks. Go back to your pussy riot snowflakw
Says the triggered feminazi. Did I say big bank account? No. IF they want kids they want a provider. So someone who can feed those children. Doesn't mean you need to be a millionaire. Some women don't want kids so again they don't care. It's what you want out of a relationship
Minimum wage jobs and children produce poverty that's a proven track record and irresponsible to bring children into this world when you can't afford them
Minimum wage and big bank account are 2 spectrums of a broad scale. I can see why no women would want to have children with you they would spawn idiots
And you can even construct a sentence wow. Women who don't want kids work. I'm sorry you aren't smart enough to understand how biology and relationships work. Hopefully you do as the feminists want you to and get that penis of yours snipped so you can no longer grow the cancer that is femanazis
Oh I bet you fuck all those tranny and gender neutral societal rejects. You are the only one screaming for some absurd equality on this thread. Typical male white knight feminist
Oh so not only are you some dickless feminist you are a racist as well. And I'm not black nice try. Next you will tell me you are for equality and should be able to give birth as well. Typical male feminist fights shit they don't even understand
And yet not once did I say anything about a white male. Proves you are an imbecile
White knight is not equivalent to the white race dumbass. Google search is your friend at this point. You just proved to the entire GAG community how dumb you are. Congrats.
You mad bro? Google search make you look stupid?
You must be really mad at those google results. All white knights are male. Stupid.
Says the dickless wonder who just got owned
Nice English snowflake
@sarawelsh122 - lol I wouldn't even bother replying to the child.
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Some do, but not nearly as much as women I find. Unless the guy is extremely successful and finds success as a primary attractive quality, most men are happy with a girl they find attractive who isn't a slouch in life at least.
Instead of going after a particular gender, I'd say, there is a group of people in both, who prefer digging into social status before selecting a partner and there is a group in both, who do not.
Yet, I feel the question you asked is not the real question, you want answered. Deep down, the question is, regarding you, what should be of more value to your partner. Is it what people think of you? Or is it what your partner will think of you?
There is a twist here. People do not make their choices independently, which is often they are led to believe. It's always driven by social views , from a little to a great extent. Apparently, you may think, that those who dig into social status are the ones who bother about social opinion. But those who you may feel do not bother about social opinion, since social status is not important to them, they do as well. The only difference is, they bank upon their strengths and courage to make the choice. But the twist is, Strength and courage of any one, be it a man or a woman have a certain level of vulnerability. How vulnerable it is, is what decides how much the social status matter to them.
And make no mistake, sometimes, the social status, you are referring to, starts from people at your own home. Your own family or parents.
And you can fight what the neighbours, staying ten block away, think about you and your partner, as a couple, for rest of life. But what about those who are near and around you? You won't be able to fight them off to prove them wrong all your life.
Unless, yes there is an unless... one starts accepting a reality and start doing things to support their partner. So that they grow more strong and confident , which they banked upon, while making a choice to ignore the so called 'social opinion on social status'.
I don't care about the social status, I would be more turn off by your lack of ambition but it's me.
I don't think that a lot of guys search women with ambitions, but a lot of women search that.
If you want to attract the good guys work on yourself, it means improve yourself in any area, physical, emotional, spiritual career etc...
By emotional I mean solve your fucking issues, stop telling that its impossible, you can't, you don't want.
If you don't, you are not going to realize your dream, your life is going to suck and you are going to die with regrets.
Improve yourself and build a legacy.
It's hard to be poor and hard to be rich, choose your hard!
When you feel fucking depress because your life suck or that you can't pay stuff to your child it's hard.
When you feel fucking depress because you've no sale since weeks it's hard
Choose your hard.
Your issue is more with your self esteem, work on it.
Download the pstec app and watch that video to learn how to unfuck yourself
I don't think that most men care very much about their partner's job. Whether you are a nice person, whether he enjoys being with you, etc. are far more important.
From your question, it seems that you think doctors, lawyers, teachers, and executives would make better partners. That might not be true for a lot of guys. For someone that likes to spend a lot of time with their partner, those might actually be undesirable jobs because they usually require a lot of time (which leaves less time to be with their partner) and often a lot of stress (which might make them harder to relax and have fun with). Also a lot of guys might feel uncomfortable with a woman that has a much more prestigious job than they do and for someone like that those professions might be undesirable.
Here's something to think about in your own job. A lot of guys like to eat and would look at your baking skills as a plus. (Have you ever heard the phrase "the way to a man's heart is through his stomach"?) I was once in a relationship with someone that was a good cook and great baker and I enjoyed all the tasty stuff she made. That's not why I loved her, but I definitely appreciated it.
I think you should be proud of the abilities you have and not feel like you are somehow below women with other abilities. If you are a nice person, there are plenty of guys around who will love you for who you are. And any that select a women because of her status are probably not guys you want to be with anyway because their focus is on the wrong thing.
I know feminism is trying to peddle that idea but no, guys don't really care about your education or status.
It's about meeting an acceptably level of looks (which is mostly about face and silhouette more than anything, it doesn't mean being 'dolled up,' there's little need for that) to get the ball rolling and then having compatible character.
So for me this would mean you don't need to be educated but you would be like-minded or wise and complimentary to me.
You don't need a career, most people don't have careers, they have jobs so don't worry about that. You don't even need a job. Just as long as you have a willingness not to drain me financially that's fine.
So that's it, the things I want:
1. Be physically attractive, it's not super hard to be attractive to guys as a girl and it's easier to get interested in girls that approach, so just get out there.
2. Your intent is to not be a parasite and ideally have a willingness not to benefit from any wealth I have. However, if you're between jobs or pregnant with my child of course I'm going to support you -- with the exception being with we just met and you're between jobs then I'm going to be hesitant to give that support right away. Also the jobs shouldn't be sex work.
3. Be like-minded or at least compatible in character. You certainly don't need an education, your education itself doesn't mean anything to me. It's honestly quite annoying when girls feel the need to drop the factoid that they have degrees *in a manner that expects me to care.* I don't so don't wave it in my face as if it's supposed to matter to me.
No, please don't think about this shit. There is no better makeup then self confidence. If you have the courage to say in front of 20 people that you are not that rich, if you have the courage to stand for what you think is right, if you have a courage to be alive, if you have the courage to say someone that you love him even if he is rich you are the richest person. Never feel like you are poor. You have the guts to change yourself and create your future at any moment of life. Your future self is begging you to not think this shit. This is all shit. Money is just a mediam to buy or sell something. It doesn't fucking decide who you are. IT DOESN'T FUCKING DECIDE WHO YOU ARE.
I hope it will help you and if you have any doubt you can reply.. I will come soon.
Contrary to popular belief, feminism really isn't a factor in dating life. I know this because I have boldly expressed feminist opinions, and still managed relationships and catch on admirers (note that I am taken, yet still admirers).
In gender studies, men are more about appearance than financial security. Women are more about financial security. It could be a man does have a preference for a woman to make her own money. But I also have friends he prefer their wives don't work.
Guys can have a different preference just like girls. You just have to keep searching.
You're mixing two different things.
You are not your job. Being strong, independent or powerful is not tied to your job (it helps, but it's not tied to it).
The thing "associating with those of lower (or upper for that matter) status, in general, is not about your job but about your behavior.
Now, if all of this comes from you wanting someone with a good job, well that's kinda shitty of you, on the other hand if you only want somebody that likes you for who you are and that you like for who they are, don't worry about your job but try to improve who you are...
Lastly, if you feel like you deserve more, go for it, you can do it
I don't think men do that honestly.
He will love you for what u are and be happy to see you follow your passion
And the whole feminist movement was started by women... men never really demanded women to make millions.
So if u do that's great for u if u don't... I don't think men will criticize u.
Yes the person who is successful is admired but not by a specific gender.
Success is admired. Doesn't mean it's the only aspect men would consider before marrying a woman.
Stay patient and marry the person who loves u for what u are :)
You should always aim for a person who is similar to you. Because with difference in income/status come different views on the same thing. Him: "Lets go to Spain to a 4* hotel for a week!" You: "It's expensive, better spend money on X" him: "It's fine, don't worry". It's just an example. So if you want to go over this, you need to compensate it with something, like being a very good fit for him, so that others will say "yes, she might work in bakery, but they are such a good fit for each other that any person will be willing to have that kind of a partner" (just an example). Generally marriages are more stable the more similar people are, just because there is less room for disagreement
It depends, mostly dont care about your profession as of what you are doing now,
BUT almost all educated guys would like to spend time with someone who is on comparable education level (like if you went to university to study philosophy, the guy who did MBA and working as executive will still date you).
I am well educated, have decent job and potential. I care less how much she makes, or what she is doing, for some reasons, it makes it even more attractive for me, if she is not doing very high end job as I like to be bread earner. For me, most important will be your inner personality, can I have good intellectual conversation with you, how much you make or what you are doing now, would care less.
Some guys care. Some don’t... but I have known women who did not bother to have a career and when their marriage ended they were in a lot of trouble. It gets harder to get a job or build a career the older you get. Unless you are marrying a really rich guy, you would be wise to give yourself more options. Cause money gets more important the older you get too. You’re not going to want an empty bank account later in life. Or to have to stay with a guy who treats you poorly just for his money.
Also, competition for the desirable guys gets harder the older you get. Life sucks in some ways.
If a man cares more about your social status then your heart, then I wouldn't even bother. Secondly if men are rich and pompous and arrogant then they're not looking for a woman of power or a woman of business, they're looking for a Barbie doll to hang on their arm. Third, people usually hang out with and socialize and meet others from their social groups. You would be hard-pressed to find a person of honesty, respect, polite, caring, loving, giving sharing and thoughtfulness in such a group who value appearances more so than values. You never know where your true love will come from so I wouldn't worry about what others think or judge oh, I would just do you stay positive and your beauty inside will be noticed.
Men for the most part will not focus on your financial status as long as you excel in the qualities that make you high status. Contrary to feminist belief, men do not want strong, independent, powerful women. Men are programmed to protect and they want to protect. If you really want to attract a good man, you should capitalize on your feminine traits around the men you like. Of course I'm not saying you can't be a strong, independent, women just that these traits will probably push more men away than they bring in.
Tbh... i want a woman who is just down to earth and real... idc about her job... her money.. or her status... and please don't use the feminist card.. honestly people just want people they like and are attracted too.. men are looking for the right time to aproach... I will share a video I have seen that's very true.. U should really pay attention to it. But atlesst me... I do want a girl who's willing to work and not just say I want to stay at home with the kids... and u support us.. like this isn't 1950... cost of everything is harder.. So that's definitely something I look for
For me no. Would I feel less towards her or be ashamed of her if she were a cashier at a Dollar Value store verses having a high positions with some successful company? That wouldn't matter to me at all. Only that she were a sweet person, was very feminine, fun, pleasant to be around, we shared values and I was attracted to her.
There are careers that would be deal breakers. Strippers, anyone whose ever does or was a sex worker or cam model. Careers that put too much strain on a relationship to wear she was gone all the time and work always got in the way of us being together or if she had to travel a lot for work. All of those situations would most likely be deal breakers but I don't think "social status" would be the reason.
Not if she's cool. Helps if she's pretty and also cool, but cool is more than enough on it's own, they'll find all the beautiful in you if you're just down AF and rad. Besides, pastries are dope. The only people who care about social status are fucking retarded, and if they value security and money over love then they'll never really have love, so forget about those people immediately, they're lost causes. A nice pastry chef lady is WAY MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY 100 LAWYERS. What do they really do, besides argue for money in a corrupt legal system that's just designed to resist change? They're overpaid beurocrats who are basically doing shakespeare in a vestigial colliseum of bullshit. I've
Seen a lotta people eat pastries, and they were fuckin happy. I've never seen anyone happy in a courtroom. Leave all that status guilt behind, love. It was never meant to belong to you, we dont need it. We need pastries. :)
Unlike women men don't seek high status and money. Because we traditionally provide the resources to the relationship. Men care if women are:
- Nice
- Respectful to them and others
- Well taken care of (you don't have to be a supermodel or even good looking just fit)
- Honesty & like to communicate (yes men like this too)
- And most importantly not a Hoe
The only reason you care because most likely you aren't looking for a high status man.
No not at all. Men don't mind that thing at at all. Well I don't. And if I am gonna love a girl, I don't check how much they make or etc. Just think about it. Imagine a boy asking a girl "do you have a decent job? " And if the answer is yes, "I LOVE YOU" and if isn't.. "I don't love you"? Seems kinda creepy. Right?
So I don't care if she makes a decent salary or not. If she loves what she do,(be it baking or arts or anything) I don't have any objection. She is making her own living and I am gonna keep her close even if she loses the job and we will look for he next step together.
I was actually thinking about this today. I don't care exactly what it is that a woman does, how much money she makes, or the social status associated with her career, as long as she is doing something she is passionate about or aspiring to be better/make those around her better. (E. g. She is driven by what she does, or it gives her a sense of purpose) not just going through the motions & hating her job for the next 30 years, and not willing to make a change.
After all, money doesn't define success anyways.
Depends on the guy. Some people are shallow but do you really wanna be with those kinds of people anyways? I've been with women on both ends of the spectrum, and can honestly say some of the wealthier women I've been with are actually less happy then the ones making a moderate income. There generally more insecure as well.. My ideology is take up a job which makes you happy regardless of the money you'll make doing it. That's the true key to happiness... Anyone who has to make a huge issue out of wealth and social standing is clearly overcompensating for something...
I think its slowly becoming more important but men generally don't care. If a girl is pretty men are going to want to date her regardless of her social status. Although having a higher social status for any gender is more desirable because it can make them look impressive in terms of skills
If he really likes you, he will love you for who you are. I was just a customer service rep when i met my husband. We got married and I was just a teacher assistant. We saved every penny we could and invested as much as possible in stocks and mutual funds, and because of that i am able to be a stay at home mom!!
I quickly went through most of the answers here and felt that a lot of people that responded were talking hypotheticals and have not answered your question honestly.
Your observation is actually quite spot on! Men are just as conscious of their counterparts as women are. They too look for women that have a social standing that's greater than theirs and/or at least equal to their own.
It also makes sense why this is so and I personally feel it is to prevent the amount of compromise there will be in the said relationship.
There's two things you can do to avoid being a victim of this dilemma. Either lower the expectations you might have from a prospective SO and/or raise your own standards.
Best of luck with everything!
In my opinion it is al about how you handle it. If you think it is a deadend job and aren't happy with it, then yea I wouldn't really like that. But if you love your job and strive to be the best at it, try to give it your own twist, in other words you own it, the I would love that. It's all about living life with passion, so in other words attitude.
I don't really care. For me compatibility, shared values, comparable sex drives and attitudes about sex, relationship goals, personality, etc. are far more important. As long as you are independent and aren't looking for a guy to rescue you, then you are fine.
Honestly, who cares? a job is a job at the end of the day. Long as you can pay your bills and treat yourself to lovely things from time to time, or cares what your job is? someone has to do the "Shit" jobs like... cleaning loos, emptying street bins because no one else will. If a man doesn't like you for your job then he's not worth being with.
It doesn't matter.
As long as they are happy with what they do and who they are is more important than other things, like their job or social status.
If I'm with someone, I'm with them for who they are, and not what they do for a living and anything else like that.
Depends on what they believe in and/ or their personality. My family doesn’t earn a lot of money like in the past. However, I still own nice things (designer brands like Louis Vuitton, Goyard, Chanel, etc) I also have a good education. However, I live in a small house. My boyfriend is beyond rich, he doesn’t judge me at all. He is really respectful. Therefore, it depends on the person. But there is nothing wrong working at a bakery
It depends on their beliefs and where they come from. If you work in the bakery, then what is the problem? It's not like you work in the sex industry. Then that would raise red flags. It's best to start as friends and get to know each other. Don't just jump up to anybody who finds you attractive. Because they are only coming you because you're a pretty face. That's it.
No, its finally getting better. It is very hard being a man as well with all the tons of extreme pressure to quote-unquote man up and take it like a man and blah blah blah blah blah Macho bull. Trust me I'm a guy who can roll around with those guys and tell you what they don't like it because I stand up to them and challenge their mentality and brainwashing. I understand the purpose of it. But we do not need that anymore. What is the measure of a man is basically the question you're asking time old question. Good news is if we don't evolve and adapt we die so people with closed minds and Hearts by ignorance will fade away as long as we keep pushing forward with love and like understanding and love.
But women also need to remember next time to call a man out or put him down they're setting themselves up to fail because they're countering and making it harder as well
The world thinks like that may be , but why do you care...
There are some people who will look for the human within you and not the job that you are doing...
And honestly there is nothing embarrassing about it... infact you are doing great... at least you are independent and lead your life... may be aim higher for the future but don't underestimate your present...
There are good people out there as well😊
Best of luck
Personally I don't care really. My first LTR was with a girl who was from a dirt poor family and didn't even have a job (we were young at the time, she did end up getting a cashier job ) She ended up being a dud but the fact she was "lower class" didn't factor into anything really. I will say, a determined hardworking woman is attractive regardless of where she is in her path of success.
If you make enough to take care of yourself and leave a modest savings then you are golden.
Men don't really care much about a woman's status or financial security. As long as she can take care of herself then she is good enough.
That being said. Men put more weight on the woman's looks than her income. They also put more on loyalty and hard-working mentality.
I care, but It's not all about your actual job or how much money you make, it's more to do with your upbringing and what you've been exposed to throughout life.
Do you feel comfortable in corporate worlds that those people reside in? Would you feel at home mingling and conversing at gala dinners?
You seem to be mixing career and salary with social standing.
Career and salary of a woman are nice to have as they add to his own income.
Social status is more about viewpoint, aspiration and outlook on the world, perhaps connections and friends. This is potentially more important.
I'll put it this way, you have a better chance of snagging a guy with a higher social status than you, compared to a guy with low social status trying to get a woman with higher social status.
Your looks are super important as a woman. Then it comes down to how kind and sweet you are. You can trade these qualities for a guy who is smarter and makes more money than you, but isn't very good looking, for example.
@gguy767
I'm not here to sugarcoat things. That's what anonymous websites are for :)
If you have something constructive to add you're welcome to.
@gguy767
My post was meant to help the OP. If this bothers you, then you don't have to do it. Problem solved.
@gguy767
I'm helping HER, not whoever she will (hypothetically) end up dating. Which I am not obligated to do anyway.
And newsflash everyone is shallow and fake when it comes time to choose their partners. Men included. So toughen up.
@gguy767
You can keep thinking you know better than a 29 year old. Ok I'm done with this now.
This for MHO. You are spot on.
@bbb10 women naturally want the best possible mate just like men though both have different standards for what we want in a partner. No reason to be mad about that.
@bbb10 I've never had too pay but then maybe i use the right bait
@bbb10
We can go around insulting each other. So if women are hypergamous prostitutes then men are thirsty johns. Or we can just accept that this is the way things are and move on with our lives.
O sorry for us being sexually attracted to the opposite genders body and actually being heterosexual. Men are johns because they have to be, who would want to pay if they could get it for free, it's women that make this so. What you describe for women is objectivley way worse. The thing about men isn't even negative.
@bbb10
Yes we know you hate women. It's ok, you're not going to change anything.
The question to me becomes what do YOU want and why? Whom? What do you have to offer in terms of character, drive, intelligence or what are you willing to do to make your marketability even stronger? If you feel inadequate what are you willing to do to change that. If you do not feel inadequate why broach the subject? I wish you well and hope my points give you food for thought.
when I met my boyfriend, I was working in a small market making prepared foods and stocking shelves, I had on a dirty apron, no makeup and hair in a net. he didn't seem to care one bit.
Men look for a pretty and nice girl.
They don't care about social status as much as women do
Very true
To a minor extent. Like I don't need her to be the same class as me or higher, but if she grew up in some backwater village with no education and then moved to the city before meeting me then that's a no.
I like women who are grounded. If she is independent, has a good career but is immodest, self-important and mean-spirited, I would want nothing to do with her. I'd take a kind, baker who made me feel special every time instead.
. PERSONALLY, I would prefer a woman who is confident, intelligent, and EDUCATED, not necessarily of the same class standing. The main thing is to hold the same beliefs that I do, intelligence and education can help that, but often educated women want to pursue a career rather than having children, which would be a conflict of interest for me. A woman with a good job would be nice, because then I wouldn't have to worry about how she's going to fare if something happened to me
I care. Personally I only date women who have at least a bachelor's degree. That being said, most guys don't care and will happily date (maybe not so much get married nowadays) girls of different socio-economic status.
That's interesting. You are one of the few people on here that cares about education. Whereas rest of the public education-shames others/undermines importance of education
Doctoral candidate? Wow 😮 that's great!
I have been called shallow on GaG for wanting someone who's educated. Especially when I'm doing Masters.
I think it's a Western thing because education is respected very much in our culture
@Schrodingerscat its not shallow. Shallow is refusing to date a man thats 5'9" because of a 5'10" cutoff. Or refusing to date a guy because he had dandruff ( easily fixable). I'd argue that education level is one of the most important indicators of long term compatibility personally
To be honest, I do. I’m well educated and it’s important to me that she’s too... studying is not a hobby for me, but I have an MBA degree and I’m always studying so I have some advantages over my competitors... I’m working hard so I can provide me what I want and my family a comfortable life... so it’s important that we have the same mindset.
I agree with this man.
Actually, the feminist movement is causing men ro move away from independent women. To answer your question though, men dont care as much because men are able to heighten a woman's social status. You usually dont hear of women bring up the mans social status because society will lose respect for men like that.
I don't care much. Although I would definitely like one being a doctor, lawyer or professor. But you know, if I find a lovely lady with a happy mind and humble heart, I wouldn't care about her social status.
She would be more precious to me than any statuses in the world. She would be greater to me than the President. She would be my world.
Nope, I'm an AML analyst for a bank, so I guess I'm somewhere in the middle, but I honestly don't care what girls do for a living, as long as they either enjoy what they do or have goals to move on. I don't like when people are unhappy yet complacent.
In India its exist. But I think total differently , if I like the person I would date or marry regardless of their social status. But family is the hindrance since for them social status matter , but if I were in your country I would def date or marry you
Depends on the man but I can say no as I find such a woman interesting since I like food and wish to start making some myself. Me and her spending out free time making food every now and then would be fun
I don't care. Personally, if I end up falling in love with someone who's not wealthy, then I'll lovingly help her out.
Now if the roles were reversed, though I'm sure some women would do the same, most women would want a wealthy guy (even if she's wealthy herself).
That's only one reason why I'm deciding to stay single (as I always have been single) and a virgin. I'm not about to gamble with "love".
I don't believe true love exists, for me at least. 💔💔💔🙂
Social status should not matter when it comes to who you fall for
If you focus on a persons age weight height social status and even their job then you are missing out on getting to know the real person
First of all profession does not make someone a better or worse person. U are candid and that's ur strength. This feeling of urs may be due to lack of men in ur life. The right person will not think about ur profession and will just come at the right time. Be proud of urself and soon u will get ur love.
I think some men might care but i would assume most would just want to be happy with a girl they fell for. If they have a problem with your social "status" then they aren't worth it.
Most men care about if a girl is attractive in some way. It’s usually a bonus if she’s naturally got a personality, common interests, sense of humor and so on. It varies on the guy, but I don’t know any guy that will date a girl he deems unattractive. We’re far more seemingly vein, picky (even if some definitely shouldn’t be), and simplistic compared to women, however, many are the same as us and often more arrogant. It varies but that is the norm.
Generally speaking social status doesn't matter to men. In my case however I would prefer a woman that is independent and successful (*Note with successful I don't mean the misconception of success, I mean being happy)
The job someone hasn't had no correlation to how successful a relationship is. People are naive if they favour based on social status (same with looks). The things that determine longevity of a relationship is chemistry, simulate values, and selflessness. Personality is what people should really focus on!
Men want independent and strong willed women. Doesn't matter so much about class as the nature of work of the woman. A bakery chef is a great job in my view because of the honest livelihood. On the other hand, i wouldn't want to date a rich, snobby girl or a crack dealer. You know what I mean?
Men paradoxically care and don't care.
They care in the sense of bragging how great their girl is.
They don't care because ultimately what does it matter with how they feel for you.
Maybe if the men you are talking about are Doctors, lawyers, teachers, executives etc. (Not sure teachers have a high social standing anymore). Men are pretty forgiving on this front but we are requiring more and more of women.
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