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My boyfriend doesn't want to watch the birth? (Page 3)
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You have never thought of that a lot of men get issues with that female's pussy after seeing that or get problems on a sexual level that he never wants you sexual or goes near your pussy?
Aaand there are girls who say fathers shouldn't have the rights to enter the delivery room. Why would it be a big deal if he chose not to?
as i want him there for support and to see out little girl enter the world plus girl only say that cuz stress can harm the baby but not in my case as i want him there
So you don't respect his decision. Now you realize it's a big deal if a guy makes their own decision. You ignoring the fact that he's still paying for the child support and hospital bills?
Why are you assuming she has that belief of "fathers shouldn't have the rights to enter the delivery room" when she hasn't even said anything to assume that? She wants the father of her child there and she just wants the person she loves romantically next to her to support her. It's not a lot to ask and personally I don't get why he wouldn't want to support her in a moment like that. It's something you experience maybe never or only a few times in a lifetime depending on the person.
@AaronKrieger that is 100% it
I am not assuming she is but i'm just telling the truth that there are a lot of girls like that. Why are you assuming that i'm assuming she is? I'm talking about respecting decisions. Why not?
That wasn't me assuming you are but going off of what you said, since you clearly said "Now you realize it's a big deal if a guy makes their own decision." This shows that you're assuming she holds that belief when she never brought that topic up, but you did out of nowhere. For example, there are a lot of guys that are conservatives but I'm not going to assume every guy I meet is one, since there a lot of guys that aren't. Also, not all decisions are to be respected since it depends on that decision itself whether it's bad or not.
You know i can also say the same that it shows that you're assuming that i am assuming because for that reason? That is a shallow thing to say i am assuming things. And i never even said every girls i meet said fathers don't have the rights to be in the delivery room. Can't you see how being recreational you are? And why would it be a bad thing if the father won't be there? This is one of those double standards though. It's ok for the girl to decide if the father don't have the rights to be there with her but he if he decides it's not ok? I'm saying it should be neutral for both. And of course you forgot who's going to be paying for it at the end.
Also yes it is a big deal for her which is true and i just have to point that out because why not? Maybe someday you'll realize that since you're only 15. So i also assume that he's going to be selfish for not being there for her because you said not all decisions are going to be respected. Oh dear.. That's what guys are always called for not doing things their girlfriends want them to do and you probably wonder why there are girls out there who are spoiled who treats their boyfriends like trashes while victimizing themselves. It's because of defenders who don't think widely that encourages them. So it's really easy for you to say until you the double standard and talking about.
Should fathers have the right to be in the delivery room? ↗ And look what we have here. We have a lot girls here say that only if she allows him to but he shouldn't be if she don't want. Of course again you forgot who's paying for it at the end, paying for the child support, going to lose 1/3 of his money, the kid and be in prison they broke up. I'm not saying that she would intend to do that but that is just the risk I'm telling you and you're still saying that fathers shouldn't be respected when they make decisions. White knight detected. Well i'm not surprised because a lot of teens my age were white knights.
Now how is it shallow for me to say you're assuming things when you did attack her randomly, since you assumed she had certain beliefs about a topic she never mentioned? She simply said how it's bothering her that the father of her own child and her romantic partner won't be there for her in a experience of a life time like that when she should be supported by a person that has that significant of a role in her life. You said to her "So you don't respect his decision. Now you realize it's a big deal if a guy makes their own decision." and "Aaand there are girls who say fathers shouldn't have the rights to enter the delivery room." This shows you assumed she held this belief otherwise you wouldn't have felt the need to say this to someone that never brought that topic up. That isn't me being recreational nor is it even close to the meaning of the word "recreational." Also, the situation isn't a double standard. I don't get how
it's unfair for someone to have to support their significant other during a moment like that. Yes, he likely wants to not be there because it makes him uncomfortable, but really that is him being selfish if he doesn't want to support his mother of his child giving birth and needing all the support she needs when going off of the information that's provided she hasn't done anything bad to him. Thus him being there doesn't harm him in any way.
Also, for that link you put out of the ninteen people that answers only four people weren't clear on their opinion exactly, so I won't be counting them in it. For example, someone said "My SO, assisted when our daughters were born." and never said her exact opinion in the responses to her comment. So, this leaves fifteen people in total. I counted which people agreed or disagreed on whether a father should have a right to be in the delivery room or not. Out of that fifteen people only five disagreed with fathers having a right, so I don't know what you mean by "We have a lot girls here." Also, if in the end there isn't a garauntee that the father will pay because if the child lives with the father whether he's still with the mother or not
then the father doesn't have to pay for child support. If he had before, but the child moves in then he has to go to court for it to stop. Plus, you said "going to lose 1/3 of his money" which is right and wrong. He is going to lose it but to pay for a birth they both agreed to have and decided as a group. During this as well the mother does pay for it as well unless she was
unemployed the entire time even before the pregnancy then that's the father's fault for dating someone that's unemployed. Finally, I didn't say earlier "fathers shouldn't be respected when they make decisions" but rather instead I said "Also, not all decisions are to be respected since it depends on that decision itself whether it's bad or not." I was using this in a
general sense and I did say it depended on the decision, since making decisions is the same thing as your actions. Hopefully, you agree that not all actions by people in general should be respected; it can be, but it doesn't have to be respected by anyone. This is because not all decisions people make are good, so this doesn't make me a white knight as you called me. A boyfriend doesn't have to constantly hold his girlfriend's hand or always agree with her, but he should support her in situations
@AaronKrieger Ohh now this is an attack? You can start chilling first before considering this as an "attack" And ofcourse it's wrong to address something these days because of people like you. Want more points of what I said? "Now how is it shallow for me to say you're assuming things when you did attack her" because you started assuming that I attacked her? "Also, the situation isn't a double standard" Like that's how it works. I already proved to you my point of women giving those double standards. How ever you can still see girls saying that "it depends on the mother if she wants him to be in the delivery room" And what you said about "Also, for that link you put out of the ninteen people that answers only four people weren't clear on their opinion exactly, so I won't be counting them in it." And that "1/3" of money I'm talking about, I'm referring to guys in general who got married not her boyfriend as the law says so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOP793671p0 and the divorce rate is pretty high. So before you assume anything, when did I say "all" in my statement? You're just explaining to me about things you think I don't know as if I'm assuming "all" girls like that also assuming I'm attacking her for just addressing something because my whole point is it shouldn't be a big deal if he don't wanna enter the room just like how some girls say it's not a big deal if he's not suppose to be in the delivery room. Did I even insult her or anything? No? Good luck looking for any personal insults there before you claim that I did.
@AaronKrieger And I agree long ago that not all action are meant to be respected but that? There are more things he's gonna be facing soon without any choice. In that case that should be against the law then if he's not in the room just like it's against the law for not paying for child support (Because this a real example decision that shouldn't be tolerated).
And what about those people who call him selfish for that? Yes you're on their side however I have a different opinion. Not the type of person who echoes anyone's opinion to get attention. And I don't have this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect in me like what majority of people have. (I still kinda do) but I try to treat people equally. Well I feel bad for her because of her boyfriend not being there for her but I feel bad for her boyfriend getting so many hates here from people like you and he still has to pay for the bills and support later because I don't forget men's rights are human rights as well.
Anyways this is what I was meant to say www.urbandictionary.com/define.php
But if you're really really what i justify that it's ok for girls to force her boyfriend to be in the room then fine. That should also mean guys have the rights to enter the room even if his wife don't like him to be there. Let us see how many girls would like that.
A better way I could've described was you being aggressive rather than you attacking her. I'll admit that was a mistake on my part, but nevertheless you were being aggressive right away towards her even when she never gave her opinion about the topic, but only going off of the fact she wants her boyfriend to be on the delivery room. The video you sent I watched and the stuff it said in the video has no sources so some of the percentages they gave aren't correct until proven otherwise, but I do agree in some situations there are double standards when it comes to men. Women generally are favored by the system whether we're talking about a mother keeping the child in court or more likely to believed she was abused even if it was the exact opposite with the boyfriend being the victim. Another is that some father's pay an unnecessary amount in child support. So I do agree that in the relationship between men and women that there are some double standards. Anyway, why I call him selfish is because even if he is paying a lot of money why does that mean he can't emotionally support his girlfriend? It doesn't harm him and going off of the information available she hasn't been a bad girlfriend. If she was I could understand him not going. That's my issue with him going off of the information available, but I'd willing to hear his side if I knew him before picking a side or giving an opinion, but I don't know him. Also, I don't support a woman forcing a guy to be into the delivery room or the mother forcing him out.
And i'm aggressive and calling him selfish isn't aggressive? See where your going? Also yes the video i have sent has no source given but the ratings. The video itself is a source but before you say nobody's gonna be with me, check is a view count and the likes and dislikes ratio. And i'm not depending on that alone. Youtube is a site where common people can reach and make forums about it not some site people barely even reach without any ratings. You say you don't support a girl forcing a guy to be in the delivery room but you still call them selfish for not being there for him. Action speaks louder than words and again decisions. If you're going to say again that decisions are not always meant to be respected then a girl's decision isn't always meant to be respected as well. you know what here's what i have to say if selfish is what do you have to call him. I could say the same thing about her but you know i just chose not to because i know how i would sound. I would sound like a misogynist just like how you sound like a white night for calling i'm selfish for that.
*Him selfish for that
You were being aggressive towards her, since you assumed she held a certain belief while she is anonymous and said nothing about that topic where as I called him selfish for doing something selfish. He won't support her because it makes him uncomfortable. Anybody whether a girl or guy should support their friends and family even if it makes them uncomfortable. That's why you calling me a "white knight" makes no sense when I've already explained it before as well along with the expections I've already stated previously. Also, the video itself isn't a creditable source. The like/dislike ratio is based on who agreed or disagreed with the video which is all built on someone's opinion rather than being built on facts. Plus the amount of views it has doesn't decide whether it's an actual source or not.
Oh dear "Aaand there are girls who say fathers shouldn't have the rights to enter the delivery room. Why would it be a big deal if he chose not to?" and where was I assuming in the first place? Was I really pointing directly at her when I said "fathers shouldn't have the rights to be in the delivery room" when i am talking about there are girls who are saying that. That's one of those victim cards you're pulling. And about that white Knight thing. I meant you sound like when i'm not saying you are one. And yes that is for assuming i am assuming things. You know being offended doesn't really prove anything specially if you're being recreationally offended. Yes the likes and dislike ratio are based on who agreed or disagreed which a lot of people agreed no matter if it's an opinion or a fact but the fact there is that many people agreed in that opinion making it a general opinion but if you really want to see a real source, go look for the suicide rate of men which is 3 times higher than women's and that is a factor i showed you. Any source is opinionated for your information it is a matter of how many people agrees with it or not.
By the way i was just doing exactly what you did. If you're going to assume that i am being aggressive towards her than i actually you're calling him selfish for that. And what if i told you, assuming things is being aggressive with you're doing in the first place.
So if you're really in denial of the video I sent because it's "opinionated" you say, it's just like any other sources FYI. So what's the difference if that video was in a written form or not? That doesn't really change the idea of the video and here's another reason why people are usually in denial of men. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect <-- now I gave something in a written form which you ordered. Along with this statistics en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States
And what the vid said it's a global phenomenon
en.wikipedia.org/.../Gender_differences_in_suicide
What about the custody? It is in the child support law. The risk of getting in prison because it is against the law if the father couldn't pay for the child support properly as if looking for a good job is easy.
www.moneycrashers.com/.../
And not to mention how high the divorce rate is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_demography
All that and still whine about the father not being in the delivery room. He has the rights to make a decision. Why such hate? And you're saying you're not aggressive? Facts don't care about your feelings.
"Anybody whether a girl or guy should support their friends and family even if it makes them uncomfortable." And you said not all decisions aren't always respected. In that case not every time someone should support someone. And I can already hear "then he don't care about her" yeah right. That straw man fallacy.
I'm not assuming but I'm saying that just in case you might think or say that.
Just ask him to be in the room and focus on you not what the doctor is doing he doesn’t need to look... I don’t see the issue.
but i have said all that but he won't listen to me
I think that’s messed up. You laid down to procreate he needs to man up. He has options instead of just not going. Good luck I’d be flipping out.
i am mad at him but i also dont want to reject his feeling on the matter to as i want us to be a team and make choices togther for our pregnancy and baby u know
Yes I understand but some things as a team shouldn’t have to be spoken upon. You suck it up. That’s just me though
but i see birth as a team effort you know i do know im doing the one pushing but he should be doing the supporting as we are both bring our baby girl into the world not just me if you know what i mean
Yes that’s what I mean! I’m on your side
thank you but how do i get him to see that as he is a great partnar and loving boyfriend who i plan to marry in the future and have more kids with he has been to all our app's and scans plus he even rubs my back when it hurts the birth is the only problem
That's a toughy. Movies show a baby coming out clean as a whistle. Real births are very messy. If you do get him to watch he might freak the hell out. Or feint.
lol true moive births are so unrealistic sometimes lol
If he doesn’t want to watch and cut the cord at least he can sit and face the wall while holding your hand
Why force him?
He dont want to see, its not like he will run away...
He shall be immediately near you after those things end
The father needs to be there period. He helped create the baby now he must watch from below.
Leave him alone. What purpose will it serve to have him there?
oh i dont know support me why i give birth to our baby
You'll have plenty of support, and he'll just be in the way. He'll be there for you the next day, and the next day, and forever, so I'd just let it go.
l would like to watch my girl giving birth to our children
Tell him to stop being a pussy and watch it lol
BRUH THIS
I think it's OK for a man to be against it. We have 2 kids and my husband didn't watch either birth.
oh why
dose he not regret not being there
You need to respect his wishes to not be in the room. That´s really his decision to make, not yours.
Not even 25 and planned a girl. Great way to trap a guy
we planned her togther
Where are you from by the way?
the uk
I'd be there but I ain't looking at that.
Do you want him to be put off that area?
Tell him how much it means to you and how important it is for him as well.
I don't get that. Everyone would understand that you need support.
He can just stand next to you. He probably thinks he's getting front row seats
My own dad didn’t watch me get born! Ain’t that some shit!
It is actually a relatively new concept. Fathers have only been allowed to watch the last few decades.
Some people can't handle gore
but i need him with me
Well than just have him by your upper half and a chair or bucket ready
yeah but he won't listen to me at all
Some are just stuborn
Thats gonna be a hard one. But im sure you'll convince him