When I'm clearly more masculine then some men are sadly. I could lead by example for those fragile fellas out there.😎I thought the gun collection would be Too Much.
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All the real men say it's fine... Weird probably because they are confident about being a man and could careless what I say...
Who would have thought this outcome 😂
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And not only am I sexist I'm The Sexyist actually.. So what else is going on? 😏
Why do I not have the right to comment about a guys masculinity?
I mean you know I love you mate, but we do disagree when it comes to labels lol. I really don't believe in them as simply I'm 1 person in a world of 7.5 billion people so I'm not sure that I'm a good enough sample centre to use my experience to give labels to people I've never met. And I'll offer an example of this (and one that shows maybe a difference between the UK and the US), so it's been hinted that gun ownership is masculine, well bringing a weapon to a fight in the UK is considered cowardly (whether that be a knife or a gun, so technically if we're dealing with sterotypes you can't be masculine and think it's ok to use guns in a dispute) and with regards to fishing I remember my schoolmates that went fishing (I never went and I kinda think I'd love the solitude/the English countryside and being at peace with the world... but I never went), and they were not what you would class as the epitome of Masculinity they were the guys that couldn't get in the football team so went fishing instead. So that's why labels are flawed, if geography can beat them, then they have little relevance in a world which is growing smaller and smaller.
I don't agree with you. It's sexist. If a guy can't comment on your femininity, you can't comment on a guy's masculinity either. If you mock someone, people will also have ten times to say about you. There is a Urdu proverb, when you point at someone, you have four fingers pointing back at you. And Spiderman said, with great power comes great responsibility. You have to stay humble even if you are physically stronger instead of bullying others. This is very unexpected from you. Sorry to say. I was expecting you to be a kind lady and mature since you are in your 30s, 10 years older than me.
You can do what ever you want, no one is stopping you nor should. Doesn't mean that its going to be a meaningful comment on your part. I mean your trying to talk about male masculinity and insulting men for not being this way or that, which would be fine but you can't take criticism back (I mean its rather hypocritical that your complaining that men are not masculine enough when you openly admit your not feminine enough). I don't think many people will care beyond the hypocrisy aspect. As for masculinity, you don't really understand it (fishing isn't masculine (I hate fishing personally, never catch anything (wouldn't mind spear fishing would probably be a lot more entertainging then waiting around for hours doing nothing), neither is owning guns (I mean I have knives, does that make me masculine? How does one quantify that anyway?) and only agree with men who are willing to blow smoke up your ass (i. e. white knights, men who are not really all that masculine).
But hey, if you want men who put your pussy on a pedestal instead of masculine men who am I to judge.
By who? When? Also that is rather meaningless, I mean this woman does porn: Also that wouldn't mean anything because if the only feminine thing about you is your looks (supposedly), then your not particularly feminine. Who cares if a guy has a masculine face, if he secretly wants to be a pretty pretty princess then he isn't masculine. If your arguing that your feminine because of your looks (again, debatable (not trying to be an asshole, but your the one who brought this up)) but every other aspect is not feminine, your not feminine.
So what do you do that is feminine? Are you submissive and obediant to your man? Do you cook and clean? Can you be nurturing? Or are you just kind of a bitch all the time (not an insult, legitimate question, on here you come off egotistical and kind of bitchy honestly which is not what I would associate with feminine)? Are you soft (phsyically as well as behavioraly)? Or do you try to be a, to use the colloquel terminology, a "bad bitch"(stupidest term ever in my opinion but this is what many women try to aim for)? Again, their is more to being feminine then having a vagina, so do you have any of those traits?
Yeah. Thats my point, "paid for my looks" doesn't mean a whole lot. Also looks don't really mean shit when it comes to femininity either. I mean their are plenty of guys that look masculine but act like a bitch, so agian, looks don't really matter all that much, at least as far as this is concerned.
I don’t really know what you’re talking about, but for sometime situations like this I think about how appropriate would be if situations were reversed. For this situation, how appropriate/inappropriate would it be for me to comment on the girls femininity? Would it be OK for me to tell you that you’re not feminine enough? Or, I guess because I don’t know that particular situation maybe you know the guy you were talking to a little more than you and I know each other, so again if someone knew you more intimately would that be an appropriate thing for them to say to you? If not, then there’s your answer. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Yes would be totally fine if you were more feminine then me I'd listen. Gay guy taught me how to do make up actually and he was more feminine then me so made sense to listen to him
Sounds like you’re pretty open minded about getting comments about your sexuality or femininity or whatever you call it. Some people aren’t as open minded as you and they get a bit sensitive about what they feel is perhaps criticism rather than just a comment in an honest way.
Well, I guess you can do whatever you wish in a relationship. I mean, the guy who is with you is with you. If you know what I mean. You and he have to figure out what is best for your relationship.
As for what is masculine or what makes a man a man. . . well, that is a guy thing.
It would be like if I decided I should have a say into what accounts for being feminine. Or what feminine issues should be.
I shouldn't and moreover. . . I can't. I have no insight into what it means or what it takes to be a woman.
Well if you could sew, do killer hair and make-up, and walk in heels like a boss I'd totally listen but I'm pretty sure your not that guy. I have taken advice from gay men about feminine things. They were more feminine than me why wouldn't I?
But most gay men. . . well. . . at least what I can understand. Aren't into being masculine. I mean, that's the point. little NasX. . . well, bless his heart is running around with pink cowboy costumes.
I don't hate him. But this is not masculine.
I think we need to be clear about what is meant when we talk about feminine and masculine traits. I would say you are independent. You have a strong will and character.
But there is no way I would say you are not feminine or ladylike.
But who is the judge of femininity? Or masculinity? A bunch of guys didn't come together to define what is feminine in a given society. Women decided that. And sure a gay guy can come in and aspire to embody those traits.
The point is who sets those standards.
And I think a big issue in American society is that men do not want to take responsibility for defining what is masculine. They simply whine about being victims.
Masculinity or femininity isn't our shouldn't be defined by your job or your hobbies, rather by your qualities, personality, the way you carry yourself.. Since when is fishing a masculine thing... I grew up with 4 sisters and we went fishing all the time... Fishing, guns, video games, etc... None of that should be what makes a man a man or a woman a woman... In my opinion anyways 🤷🏼♀️
When has fishing and hunting not been? Men provide by fishing and hunting. Plus we are rarities and you probably know that most females wouldn't touch a fish let alone guy it
I know lots of females that fish... Hunting maybe more a man thing, but just hunting alone don't make a man masculine and just not hunting don't make a man not masculine... My hubby didn't hunt or fish, does that mean he wasn't masculine or less of a man 🤔 trust me, he was ALL MASCULINE man, one of the strongest men, scratch that... person I've ever known and not just for his physical strength but for the way he carried himself throughout his life and his illness
Because someone doesn't hunt, they lack balls 🤔 So my husband didn't have balls 🤔 I assure you he did 🤣 A man who lived 13 years knowing he was dying, but still was an awesome father, a good husband and still went out of his way to help others... THAT TAKES BALLS OF STEEL... I think we disagree on what makes a man a man and a woman a woman, to me it's your quality of character, your emotional strength-not just physical, the way you carry and conduct yourself in life and with situations as well as people... Again, I'm not real big on labels or stereotypes
Per your update: You like guys that like to hunt and fish... That's your preferences in a man... That's what you define as masculine... And that's fine, you have a right to define that for yourself and the prospective partners you'd date... My husband was a guitar player, a drummer... That didn't make him more or less a masculine man, just a man that was more into his music and his band and his family than fishing or hunting... We all have a right to how we define things, but that don't mean because you or I would see someone as not masculine, they aren't... Without knowing a person, you don't know their characteristics, their real strengths or weaknesses and all humans, male and female have both strengths and weaknesses including myself... Does it make me less strong because I also have weaknesses, no I'd say makes me more so that I can admit it and work past it... Same for anyone, male or female... Just way I see it...
That's a good point and I agree. I'd much rather recognize a man by how he carries himself rather than interests. Qualities like honesty and being a man of his word I think are a better measure of his manliness. That's not to say women can't be those things but we're talking about men here.
I do believe you have the right to say anything you want, that's freedom of speech. Though, you don't have freedom from consequence. Because someone's always going to get butthurt/triggered/whatever...
Karl Abraham differentiated two types of adult women in whom penis envy remained intense as the wish-fulfilling and the vindictive types: The former were dominated by fantasies of having or becoming a penis—as with the singing/dancing/performing women who felt that in their acts they magically incorporated the [parental] phallus. The latter sought revenge on the male through humiliation or deprivation (whether by removing the man from the penis or the penis from the man).
As long as you have tits and a juicy pussy, you're feminine, whether or not you hunt, fish, don't put up with shit, are good at self defense or arm wrestling. Only a weak man would be threatened by those things. Hell, a good man would be happy to have a companion who could keep up with him. The idea of manliness has deteriorated over the past 50 years in our society.
Ok one you aren't a man, two having a entire row of fishing rods isn't manly or anything, its just a hobby that a lot of people enjoy. 3rd why do you care about whose manly or not. Avoid the ones you don't like and move on to the ones you do. Like how a lot of females say a man shouldn't make comments about how a women chooses to dress or act or whatever, then women shouldn't do that to me. Its called double standard.
I mean, everyone has a right to make comments. But it doesn't mean one must make comments.
Some dudes get super salty if a woman has any sort of superior skill or ability. Those dudes' masculinity is super fragile - just as fragile as their ego.
Honest men with strong masculinity know their own masculinity isn't threatened by a woman having a gun collection or knowing how to fish.
I don't know anyone who would deny your right to do so. However, saying "you shouldn't" isn't at all the same as saying "you have no right."
That being said I support your right to comment on masculinity. Nor do I think you shouldn't comment on it.
One thing if I may. What is *up* with you and testosterone? It's a thing with you! It's bizarre! 🤔 You talk more about testosterone than my endocrinologist! 😄
I say go for it be honest snd say what's on ur mind and what you want say it's not going to hurt me ,, its how you feel and that's good by me I don't mind hearing what people think or feel more times than not I learn something ,, and if someone can't talk it the your probably right. Lol
Firstly, you have no gain from telling someone they're not masculine. Secondly, masculinity is subjective, meaning something you find masculine others may not. Many men don't pride themselves in being masculine, i for instance don't care if i'm masculine or not. And secondly you seem like you want to be seen as more masculine than the men which is probably a sign of insecurity, that you wanna be seen as someone that is strong and can protect themselves.
Not everyone cares about that stuff, a lot of men are into other things, plus just because you have that stuff doesn't make you masculine, and even if it does why would you want to be, if we're going off of stereotypes like you are then you should be the exact opposite, or is it just double standards?
A gun collection sounds like the opposite of being manly, sounds like compensation. Or paranoia. How are fishing rods proof of masculinity? You seem to have a very shallow and inaccurate understanding masculinity.
Why are you making troubles owly birdee? 🤔 It seems your brawling with everyone, they do not know that owly birdee is a nice girl with a tender heart, cause she only shows her rough side but i do know your other side 😊
I don't hunt but if i did, i'll only hunt owly birdee to bring her to my cave ☻
You totally do have that Right! But I think it's also being able to respect others that have a different view rather than forcing your views on other people. I think there are a number of users on this site that agree with that view too
Nah you can comment on it.. Now if you're actively insulting him for his masculinity thats a different matter. It would be the same as if a guy did it to a woman. In any case some guys are just fragile.
Why do even all men have to be very masculine? Don't get me wrong, I see myself as 100% masculine. But if another man for example has hobbies that are not typically masculine, why do you have to comment on that? Live and let live.
@WowwGirl Just because you don't want to have sex with a person doesn't mean you have to make fun of them. Right? Why do you want to insult these men? It seems like you have a lot of hatred against them. I don’t get why.
I think because women can comment on men in any way shape or form and its acceptable, but when a man says anything about a woman, or femininity its frowned upon.
It means I could provide food like a real man so therefore I have masculinity not to mention all the other things I can do that they would probably cry over
You don't get it. That's the point. Men don't want women to lead. We want to be the leaders. So you're not going to attract anyone's affection by "leading by example."
Yes it is. So what? It's hardly a comment, never mind a comment on someones masculinity.
Maybe if you coupled it with something like "I've got more tools in my toolbox, more guns in my armoury and more rods than you could throw in a weekend away." That's a comment. And it's a comparison to the victims masculinity.
On it's own, your pic doesn't belittle anyone. It might trigger a man-let to say something disparaging like "I bet those are your husbands rods" or some shit. But I'm sure you can dispose of those asswipes. Good luck and nice collection.
Why do you consider you don't have the right?, I have many feminine traits and hopefully in tune with them, most of my friends are female, if I do "manly" stuff I've had "I didn't know you were like that", it's weird,
Apathy is not a sign of confidence, passion is. Passionate people are brave enough to make their voice heard while apathetic people stand on the sidelines and shrug.
Confident men like George Carlin were very fond of laughing at their opposition as well.
maybe they just can't take it... but maybe you can be slightly harsh... but they gotta remember this is the internet... Q - Q we're harsh out here... NO ONE IS SAFE
I just recently started going ji-jitsu a month ago now. It's hard and there is a lot to learn. So what do you train in currently? Judo and Ji-jitsu that's it? Or you also do Kempo Karate?
You are probably the type of women who wants a "masculine man" but if he has a beard and muscles you reject him because he is "too big" and looks like a "gorilla".
No but I think is sexy af when women have tattoos of things like that. Guns, classic cars or a life size tattoo of a monster Largemouth with stats included.
Ah, some fragile guys got butt hurt? Say it isn’t so. A girl that likes shooting, fishing, building and generally getting her hands dirty is the girl that deserves a marriage proposal! So hot!
Combat sports , having self respect and pride, standing up for yourself and others, not being scared, and not giving a shit what others say. Especially some little darling like me
We all have guns so not many robberies here. I'd shoot at one personally that's just me I'm old fashion. We only call cops if kids are involved the rest we handle ourselves.
I do combat sports, shoot guns, fish, work on cars, ride dirt bikes, and speak up to whomever I have skill sets most men don't but should. That's how my testosterone is probably higher too
Girls can do all those things and still be feminine i think , i mean there are women in the army who fight on the front line they don't become less feminine because of that. I think biologically a girl will generally have less testosterone than a boy.
@TomGarand I'm not but if he can do something feminine better then me I'll listen. A gay man taught me to do make-up. At the time he was better at it so I listened.
Hmm. Well, I got a few questions of my own. While I'm by no means a Mitch or a Soy Boy, I'm no Chad either. I wanna know what you have to say about my own questions.
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