Why is male effort disappearing? Seriously—what’s going on?

[Hello4242]

Is it just me, or have guys completely stopped showing interest? I used to get attention without even trying—and now, even when I do put myself out there, it’s crickets. It’s not even about ego—it’s about connection. I’m not asking to be chased or worshipped, but… effort? Presence? Something?

[MrOracle]

Don't take any of what I say personally unless it sounds like you (I obviously have no idea if it does), but to generalize, the combination of dating apps and women's unbridled hypergamy (unbridled because women have careers now, so they have decided - or more often have been taught - to completely disregard men and men's contributions to the world, showing next to no respect for men generally).

What tends to happen now is that virtually all women chase the top 5% of men almost exclusively, and ignore the other 95%. And even the women who will date the top of the 95% (because they can't get attention from the 5%) have insane expectations and insist that the man is practically perfect in every way, and will disrespect him or cheat on him for any perceived slight, because she knows he's not a top 5% guy and doesn't respect him.

The top 5% guys are chased by all women, and have endless options, and so they only use women for casual sex, and mostly they get it, because the women all believe that he will choose HER over every other woman - but he's not choosing ANY of them, except for a night. A man like that can have more red flags than a Chinese parade and she will ignore them, and then blame ALL men for how he treats her.

Meanwhile, average guys are entirely ignored, and if they dare to even approach a woman, he's called creepy and sometimes even screamed at because she doesn't find him attractive (because only 5%ers are acceptable). Average guys have been told so often to leave women alone that they are doing just that - actively avoiding them and staying at home or hanging out with other guys - usually not in public.

So, you aren't wrong. Men are avoiding you - and all other women. They don't go out, they don't pursue, and in fact they avoid.

Maybe you have never done those things yourself, but your friends have for sure. And most single women have.

So, it's now women who have to actively pursue and initiate. I'm sorry if you didn't contribute to that being the case personally, but it's where things are today. You need to know what you are dealing with from someone who will tell you the truth.

[RavVid]

I tend to hang out with older guys because they have more life experience and I can learn from them.

A lot of those guys are transparently pleased that their son's think girls are too much trouble despite liking their bodies and would be encouraging that realistic view.

One high flying guy decided to divorce his wife (and sort of his daughters by extension) because none of them appreciated the effort and cost to him in providing them a very pleasant life. He just got tired of the attitude. I've seen him with a few different women since but he isn't buying.

Another older friend came out and said he was fed up with women yesterday. The female chair of a committee he is on changed her mind on a course of action that had been decided. When he objected that the course of action was needed and ready to go, the female chair attacked him for being misogynistic!

He is very pleased to be retiring from teaching very soon. Not because of the students but because of the female staff. He has had enough of the women.

I was in a tool shop and a woman came with her girlfriend in tow. She wanted to know why 18V batteries (meaning tools) were more expensive than {meaning tools with} 12V batteries. The woman at the counter had no idea of course.

I had a brief impulse to give key points. Because she had an opinionated persona I resisted and thought let her figure it out. Probably wouldn't have gone down well if a man gave her info.

I think we are all a bit over women, like my retiring friend. I particularly resent girls thinking we know as little as they do.

[Anonymous]

We've given up because no matter what we do we're either not good enough for some reason looks, finances etc etc. Then the ones of us that are good enough have to spend a shit ton of money to keep the relationship going and the lead is all placed on us. Further dating apps have fucked our society up as has social media and most men now belive that approaching woman in person is seen as creepy so we don't disturb you.

Also, lot of guys are often scared to flirt because they're worried about getting in trouble for sexual harassment even if what they said was just a compliment followed by asking someone on a date. Like there are guys that are getting called into HR for saying something like "You have very pretty eyes."

Then woman often have ridiculously high and unrealistic standards so men that don't think they meet them just give up like me. Then you have guys who get fucked in divorces acting as cautionary tales and a lot of men just say no to the idea of marriage and refuse to even consider it since a third of the time it ends in divorce and 70% of divorces are on the womans end of the relationship.

When guys factor all of this in most of them just say "fuck it" and swipe right on tinder matching with girls who get ran through and are then shocked why nobody wants to date or marry them. This is true of both genders and for good reason. It doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman 5 or more partners in bed is a red flag unless you're a very unlucky widow. This rule is for men and woman. If you sleep with 5 or more people you clearly didn't love all or even any of them and loveless sex is unethical. Further the chances of them cheating are high because they see sex as recreation and not an act of love.

So, yea, men gave up and checked out. The game is rigged against us; we're the ones expected to carry the weight of everything and be a provider in a supposedly "equal" society. We're expected to be tough and not be vulnerable and most men that let themselves be vulnerable end up regretting it.

Most of us are just sick of it and have had enough. We've realized that for most of us no amount of effort will be enough so we just stopped.

[Luv2BRealExotic13]

Because why are they telling me my eyes are pretty on a job? That’s weird. Especially from a man I’ve shown absolutely no reciprocal interest in. I had a job once surrounded by creepy old dudes that even if they were my age they knew I’d still never give them a passing glance outside of the workplace. Women only get agitated at a lot of men’s lack and comprehension of social ques, audacity. I don’t like to do the rating bs or whatever. Most of the time when a man is assessing himself compared to a woman he has eyes on and observing he knows based on body language if she’s willing to give him a shot. If we’re short in our response it’s because men need to know it’s blatantly clear if we don’t find him attractive. Then if other men see other men behaving badly they don’t correct each other, which is crazy. Each and everyday I see why women are choosing the bear. There’s nothing unethical about sex without love. Some level of care, respect and responsibility but love is a bit much.

[Opinion Owner]

@Luv2BRealExotic13 Sometimes men misread things you woman are fucking confusing so think of it from our perspective? We think we're getting signals so we say something like that trying to flirt then we end up in HR for sexual harassment when we thought we were just flirting back because he miss understood. I've ben confused by woman multiple times because you guys are so weird and every guy I've talked to has at least one or two stories of misunderstanding when someone is flirting. Then woman complain "Why doesn't anyone hit on me in public" I see threads of this here all the time and the answer is we're keeping our mouths shut out of fear so we don't lose our job or worse for taking a shot we might be misreading.

Also in my experience woman are almost never clear when they reject you politely and just in general are fucking confusing as a rule. 6 people seem to agree with me. Woman seem o think they're simple and "It's not that hard to figure it out" You're flat out wrong, most guess genuinely pull their hair out trying to read your signals.
The pretty eyes thing is also just an example not specific it was just meant to be a tame complement I mean ffs you can even say that platonically! My sister has eyes that I would say are objectively pretty (Except for in cameras they always turn her eyes red) That's what I mean when I gave that example.

[DishLady]

• Part of it is COVID. Many have lost the ability to engage "normally".
• Part of it is apps. Folks think they have infinite options so they don't commit to one. The glam prospect of something better being out there gets to some people and makes them cocky.
• Part of it is cranky women. A guy has no idea whether you're the sort to bite his head off or the type to accept him, goofy traits and all, so they don't invest as much time or effort.
• Part of it may be you. There may be a temperament/"vibe" you're putting out there that makes you appear less approachable than you think you are. You also have to be consistent. No one will pay attention of you only "put yourself out there" occasionally. I'm not saying to become man-crazy, however maintaining a level of passive optimism in daily interactions with guys tends to work better than shutting guys off and then sporadically trying to put yourself out there.

[MrChinaski]

Part of it is that men have been told not to approach women increasingly vociferously not to approach women. If you think about the bar scene in Top Gun that would never be filmed today. We have lost that loving feeling.

Part of it is smart phones. People just aren't as interested in other people as they used to be. Too busy checking their 'social' feeds.

And to be completely honest, at 31 the average woman has already lost 20-25% of their dating capital compared to when it peaked at about 23 years old. It is going to plummet faster from here. By the time you are late 30s, you have pretty much lost the entire market of men that want children.

Sorry. The truth hurts sometimes.

[MrChinaski]

I know nothing about you and maybe you keep yourself immaculately. But guys that want kids probably want to bed down and be confident in the long-term viability of a relationship before making an 18 plus year commitment to coparent children. That's probably 3-4 years in the relationship plus another 9 months of pregnancy. So if you are over 35 then it probably is never going to happen.

You can still live a perfectly fine and successful life, but bearing children probably won't be a part of it.

[katiesmuff]

It is society, social media, and the fact that at one time marriage was considered the point where you have completed the last step to a full and happy life, but as the world has changed, women have more influence in the workplace, politics etc which has made it not as desirable to be hitched by many both men and women. It's not you Hello4242 it is the world that has changed.

[Static_In_The_Attic]

Girls let’s face it guys are looking for booty calls & nowadays girls are only looking for foodie calls. As for male effort of course it’s disappearing because unless panties start dropping again it’s not worth the effort. In addition from what I see girls are letting themselves go & a lot of them are choosing fries before guys & it shows.

[Anonymous]

Well, for one you're older hun. Sorry, but that's just reality. But so are they. Youth is more attractive, it just is! But as guys age they're more likely to have seen every game a woman plays. And sorry again, but your gender plays A LOT of them. As men grow older it isn't about him just trying to get a little boom-chika-wah-wah.😆 it's about him being happy and content. And a lot of what women do and say is the antithesis of that.

Now everything I listed has ALWAYS been the case. But also now (probably in the last 30 years, so given your age you've probably never experienced otherwise) women have pushed hard for equality. And over the past 30 years women are living life FREE OF MEN and thier "subjugation". Ask any woman today and they'll tell you they're a boss b*tch that doesn't need a man. Anything they need of a man they can hire him for. And frankly, why would a guy want to entertain a gender as a whole that deafeningly now tells him with great hostility she can do just fine without him. Guys are just walking away and letting her control the tempo, the where, when and even IF. It's POINTLESS for us to try. It's an exercise in futility for us to try. It has always been said that women would never endure the rejection men had to to get a date. But the rejection is exponentially larger now. Rejection is ONLY acceptable when there is possibility of success. And most of your gender has made success for a man impossible. Most men know that even when he wins he still loses. Because the women will hide everything potentially negative about them. Because God forbid a man is allowed to judge anything about her. So even if you meet a woman, talk to her ask her out, get to know her, it might be months before you find out everything she told you was all a lie. After a few times of this it gets harder and harder to want to do it again. This goes back to my point. As we men get older we just want peace and happiness. And at the end of the day you either want to be that or you don't. And if you don't. You should probably just be that boss b*tch somewhere else.👍

Hope this helps.

[Finchie40]

Sadly social media and Feminism played a big part on impacting makes’ and females’ mindsets , to think negatively instead of positivity , when it comes to the opposite sex. Sadly it’s harder for a lot of people to trust and respect one another these days because of all the negative things we read about or hear about on a steady basis about each sex. Most men do not want to get into committed relationships because they are scared of having their heart broken if the girl decides’ to be selfish and only thinks of herself , especially if she is setting her standards way to high , only expecting perfection , basically her way or no way , This can occur from both sexes. Once someone has their heart broken by someone they thought loved them the same way , their heart is damaged and for them to really trust the opposite sex again , is going to take them a lot longer to fully trust. Sadly Selfishness , which everyone of us has inside of ourselves is one of the biggest relationship killers , if you can’t remove selfishness for your partner , or for someone you are interested in, don’t expect them to do the same for you. For a relationship to form , both people have to choose each other over everyone else in this world or that relationship will more than likely fall apart. Sadly most people point fingers before pointing fingers at themselves first , and that’s sadly going to add a lot of fire into the relationship. So if you really like someone and interested in someone , you are best to be as honest as possible , because without honesty , you aren’t going to find someone that trusts you 100 percent.

[Shiprex]

Men are tired.
Tired of being expected to be the providers (with no acknowledgement)
Tired of being rejected
Tired of being thought of a predators, creeps or threats just for being when in reality we're probably gonna step in if a criminal is abusing someone or an animal and put ourselves at risk (getting less and less like that though)
Tired of being held back in education and it's OUR fault (not that women aren't running education for girls and that pedagogy is based around learning styles most suited to girls.
Tired of being reminded girls develop and grow up faster than them while girls when they're "adult" are still deemed incapable of making informed decisions when THEY chase older men (see 3rd point above)
Tired of the risk of being denied their reproductive rights to choose when they can become fathers because a woman "doesn't feel it's the right time" or "feels it" when he doesn't.

No men don't see the benefit of committing today because women don't need them and don't show they want them enough. Video games, dogs, hobbies are safe bets for contentment and a degree of happiness and the need to have kids is not something most men are all that up about unless they've been brought up in religious households.

[Shiprex]

and @Hello4242 it's not you it's society

[blackeagle007]

Damn right. And when a woman needs help carrying something, I just keep walking. That’s what happens when we get called creeps

[236color]

Every time a guy is called "creepy" for making an approach, he a 3 guys he tells about it are that much more likely not to try. Same for each guy you're not attracted to that you belittle instead of just saying "no thank you". Women have told us very clearly not to approach you at work, at the gym, at a bar, on the street. So tell me, where ARE they supposed to approach you. I'm sorry if you want men to make an effort, some of them are not going to be attractive to you. You don't have to go out with them, but don't sneer at them. Do that and the attractive one's won't approach you either.

[RavVid]

Well you lot told us to stop trying to chat you up or you would call the cops and put up a video on Tiktok!

Relationships have become very unrewarding is the short answer. And the precursor interaction loses value consequently.

Most of the non-peace in my life has come from relationships and I am a bit over that. A relationship should enhance my life but seems like there is always fuss and bother.

If all goes well there is a 50% chance you will be divorced at 8 years on and at least lose 50% of your assets. That is a unacceptably dud deal. In my country, legal changes effectively have me married at 2 years into a cohabiting relationship. Even if it was a FB association with no obligation, it is risky now.

So I should terminate at the first anniversary dinner to be safe :)

Short term affair style relationships are all that is safe now.

[Communicationisking]

I speak for myself here but the moment I stopped chasing and just had fun and was just genuine I met and made proper connections with way more people than I ever would have if I was chasing tail I also had 10x the hookups. I think that (remembering I'm speaking for myself) what vibe you put out is what you get in return ie. When I'm out (when I was single and I guess still now) I just want to have a good time and have fun, meet people and connect with people that are on my wavelength.

Sounds like you totally need a hug and you will find that person... the effort, presence and something comes after making the connection... hope that makes sense. It has payed off for me and I have an awesome circle of friends that all are beautiful people.

[SteveSmith1985]

I don't know if male effort is disappearing. Can you please explain what you mean by "put yourself out there?" Do you mean... nobody messages you on a dating app? Or do you mean you'll approach guys or take the initiative, and aren't finding they respond positively? Or what do you mean exactly.

If its about connection, and not wanting to be chased, then isn't it possible that the connection just wasn't there in the particular cases you're talking about?

It's hard to not take this as you wanting to be chased. I am really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, since you explicitly assure the reader that this is not the case.

But can you please give some more details about what makes you say this?

I can assure you that male effort is not disappearing. That's just not a phenomenon. There is something else responsible for your feeling this way. Not that there has been a shift in male effort overall.

[Anonymous]

Women spent decades telling men not to bother them.

Men listened.

We get ridiculed for approaching women. We get called creeps.

Talking to a woman nowadays is like willingly stepping in a bear trap.

Even when we do actually date you, you treat us like ATMs.

You treat us as disposable.

Women only care about what they can take from men, and offer nothing in return.

You're just not worth it, anymore.

[Hello4242]

Just as there’s negative rhetoric about men, there’s equal amounts about woman out there. We’re both jaded about each other. I find it really sad that we can’t find common ground.

[blackeagle007]

You should call out women for discouraging men to approach. Stop with the creep calling. And it’s beyond our control to have looks like Channing Tatum does. We know women only go for guys like that

[genericname85]

well just think about female opinions and behaviors towards men. particularly in the media. i think if you remember what has been going on in the past few decandes, that really answers your quesiton.

but in any case even if that doesn't make sense, you can still answer your quesiton simply by explaining that people in general don't put effort into things that aren't worth it. that's really all there is to it. in their struggle for emancipation women have forgotten that they want men and in order for them to get men, they need to cater to what men want. if they don't do that, they won't get men. easy as that.

[Anonymous]

I will say this, when the pressure is on men as a whole that “unwanted flirting is harassment” less men will approach especially with the whole social media negative blastings and such.

Though most definitely, it is probably the increase usage of dating apps to find a partner or ‘hookup’ apps. Men aren’t “putting in the effort” because dating apps / hookup apps are out there perhaps.

I’m sure you are a nice, kind, warm, and wonderful person to get to know so I wish you more success in the dating game on your end since you deserve a shot. They are missing out, you do you and let them do them I guess. I never liked dating apps

P. S. In a relationship myself.

[michalpl00]

BECAUSE OF FEMINISM! I don’t want a woman who is sleeping around, shaking ass, disrespectful, have guys friends, promiscuous, have guys texting her.


I want respect. I will not be treated like an option. I am a choice! I will not be disrespected and then called controlling and insecure. I am a good man and deserve a woman with common sense. Girls are just so masculine that it turns me off. Like they get tattoos, sleep around, travel, focus on money instead of family. Promiscuous behavior is an instant turn off. men want to be gentleman. And want a submissive woman who will be the heart of the house. There is not innocent good woman anymore. we want puresness. Not a girl who has been passed around. Good men exist, i follow the way of christ. But there is no love, only lust. Just like the bible says

[blackeagle007]

It’s funny not too many females respond here. They all act like they are fucking victims. Fuck that shit

[michalpl00]

They take zero accountability for their actions and quite honestly it is funny because men are legit done. Like we don’t want these type of women who are overbearing and feminist. I think shaming should come back because these women are whoring around thinking men will find it attractive. Women these days are just disgusting. Unfortunately it’s like 90% of them before I was dating. I thought this was 5% but it turns out the world is degenerate. This is sad, but I don’t want these type of women in my life because I’m a man of good morals.

[Kayla45]

Guys tend to be labeled as creeps far too often and I believe it's effectively killed their motivation to try to get with a random girl, I see more guys dating girls they've known for years rather than someone he just met. More often than not from an outside perspective it seems like they are just tired of being labeled as something they are not.

[Anonymous]

This is pathetically accurate.
I had 3 friends text me in the last two days about how messed up their dates were, because the guys were all just out on sex and had zero intention of putting in any effort other than "you can come to my house".
The current scene is a joke.

[Summeroflove]

There could be many reasons maybe something about you is chasing men away. Maybe a lot of men are just taken or interested in other women. I mean you need to show interest as well relationships are a two way street those who just wait usually get passed by. Maybe they get attention by people they don’t care for.

[Truthatanycost]

I've noticed hundreds of YouTube videos where women say the same thing, many TikTok ones as well. There was a time when I used to approach women but those days are long over. I haven't even given it a thought until I saw your post.

I am more interested in the Kingdom of God (Seek first the Kingdom) and my business. If I ever decided to be with a woman, it would be through the Kingdom of God but since I prefer being single, that is unlikely.

[BonzoInBitburg]

A couple years ago I was in an airport and my flight was delayed. A couple guys in their 30s were hitting on the bartender and then I placed my order. The bartender was her mid 20s and after I placed my order I got a phone number from her voluntarily. I didn't ask for it. The effort isn't disappearing. The effort was the but the younger generation is completely clueless as to why a woman would give out her number.

[slatyb]

A lot of the guys your age are taken, particularly the guys who made an effort. Have you tried online? Sure, most of the men there are a waste of time, but not all. I started dating online after my divorce, and most of the women were not for me, but a few were, and I married one of them.

[NicholasRedone]

I've also hit 31 and personally I'm quite as smiley upbeat as thought a weight has been lifted because "dating wise, I'm basically retired, happily single and fine with the fact" + so I just enjoy not looking at women with lustful eyes ❤️‍🔥 👀 I hope this assists.

[NicholasRedone]

@hello4242 plus it's not like women put effort into it post Covid to get my attention 👁️ even directly ; by my late 20s so, shrug 😔😅 their losses

[glennos89]

Woman seem to have forgotten that what man really look for in a woman to build a family with. Men dont want fake woman, men like their woman to be natural but woman think that fake boobs, fake eyelashes, fake butt, Botox injections are making them look better.

Men are being teached on how to threat woman but woman aren't being teached how to threat their men. That's has become a big problem at the moment. Men are sick of getting treated like shit

[Sugar100]

I’m 27 and can’t get. A first boyfriend. I go out and everyone has a partner except for me. It feels no one shows interest in me at all too. Like no one cares Im alone. Everyone aleady lives with a boyfriend has babies and not me. My family is already settled down older except for me.

[SolitarySolace]

Effort fades when reward turns into ridicule. Too many guys have been mocked, ghosted, or told they’re ‘doing too much’ just for showing interest. Eventually, they stop trying—not because they’re lazy, but because they’re tired of losing every time they care.
- Eva ❤️

[retarb]

Bro my friend almost got banned from a gym because some thot accused him of buttstare when he was deadlifting because she was squatting directly in front of him. We aren't showing less interest, we now have more threat assessment to do thanks to the loud dumb idiots.

[Babebytheshore85]

It's you. You can't blame the fact that men just aren't interested and not attracted to you on all men. That's a personal problem you are making into a huge generalization in order to cope with your rejection.

[Shy_Steve]

Because the majority of the time when us Guys put ourselves out there there is still at least a 75 to 80% chance that we will get rejected so a lot of us Guys are sick of it and we do not see the point in the risk in getting rejected again.

Would you go sky diving if you new your parachute had just a 75% chance of opening or working?

[Rosexøxø]

Would I put my name in a raffle bowl with a 75% chance of being picked? Yes. The consequence of your example and the consequence of not moving forward with a date is not even the same. One ends your life. The other doesn’t. 🤷‍♀️

[Shy_Steve]

@Rosexøxø But that’s the thing. Rejection for a guy isn’t like a raffle where the worst outcome is nothing happens. It’s more like repeatedly applying for a job where you're not even acknowledged, laughed at, or told you're not good enough in front of others. After enough of that, most people stop applying. It’s not fear of death. It’s exhaustion from being treated like you're disposable.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

It’s not disappearing, it was never there to begin with. Men had wives practically handed to them on silver platters for generations, they never learned how to put in real effort because they never had to until now.

[Leon1]

Women’s families even had to pay dowries to get a guy to agree to settle down.

[ThatCanucker]

I have seen a lot of chatter where men have been told by women to leave them alone and not approach them. Seen men getting into trouble for attempting to talk to women. Having videos taken of them and put online to embarrass them or even the police called in some cases. So it seems like many men are being extremely cautious about this now to the point where they are not likely to approach women and might be using apps more to find dates which isn't better but safer for them overall.

[constantine15]

I stopped making the effort years ago. I’m tired of getting my heart broken and I’m no longer interested in a relationship.

It doesn’t help that I have a 99% rejection rate… while my good buddy gets women throwing themselves at him everyday when he doesn’t even try… must be nice to be good looking.

[Apple1996]

Oh how I'd wish that happen. I get men approaching me at the worst times even tho im married with kids. I had a man trying to ask me if I was single in the OR waiting room while my son was having surgery last week 😒

[MzAsh]

Some of us have never had an issue with receiving effort from men. There are things you gotta know that many ladies don’t.

[NordicInScandinavia]

They are?

where to I sign up to that? I'd love no attention by anyone else than my partner but yeh. Thought with age it would go away, but I was so foolish to lose weight, so it didn't.

[jshm2]

LOL, seems you've fallen out of fashion, or put the weight on.

You were too lazy when you had it, and now are struggling, as you don't know what you've lost.

[Nikki1989]

Society has become increasingly more lazy. People would rather stare at the phone than actually socialize.

[Miristheiss]

Porn.

Everything is done online now.

Women are less feminine.

Women are really promiscuous now. The numbers of women involved in porn now is crazy.

[MannMitAntworten]

It is disappearing in equal proportion to women’s effort. In other words, both sides are screwing over one another. I don’t see it getting better any time soon. Especially when both sides seem more or less resentful of their opposite sex.

[tzdc21]

The Me too movement, the frequent shaming and a lack of reciprocation are to blame for all of that. And im not trying to be bitter or hateful in any way, shape or form. Im just being direct

[strateguy632]

If we showed interest we got called creepy, "staring is assault" women say, so we fled.

[spartan55]

Damn right. We finally wised up and grew tired of women giving zero effort in return, so here we are.

[jahaims]

Poor cultural and societal values. A lot of females want the perks of being a male and female without any downsides and that isn't worth dealing with. Guys can hook up without commitment and not worry about baggage.

[blackeagle007]

Well you ladies have ridiculous expectations with guys. Not all of us want to be bread winners. We all don’t make 70k a year. Money is just so important with you all. And how good looking a guy is.

[Anonymous]

Why give effort to someone who's been passed around, used and discarded, now when she turns 30 is willing to settle for a nice guy. Fuck that. I want the hot 22 year old, not the cum dumpster 32 year old.

[Alex-Snow]

Sorry that is happening to u. I can only speak for myself and my guy friends in that the effort has not disappeared. But we all are in the 18 to 24ish range and horny 24/7

[LiamJHayden]

I always approach if I am interested and single at the time, but yes, a lot of guys have stopped trying.

[ProbablyClueless]

We're used to put in lots of effort. The shit never got appreciated in the slightest.

[WonderingManII]

The way women have behaved around me, has made me stop trying.

[Tiger288]

Cuz we listen and u always called us creepy no matter what if we being nice or give u a compliment

[PaleDale]

Hasn't stopped for me, but I do worry about getting hurt / being vulnerable. But everyone has to do that to connect I think

[In_Trance]

It's probably because you find yourself paying attention to the same type of guy that you have all along which is not the right type of guy for you

[Grlbears]

Women are useless. By biology since women are weaker and the weaker stands in the way of the stronger (men)

[BobbyLee789]

It hurts too much, I make effort and then I get hurt

[Deserter3]

You women don't want to pull your weight, just reject every guy and expect them to jump through hoops, it's your fault

[Anonymous]

Metoo statutes say men shouldn't approach women so they are respectfully just following the law

[Anonymous]

Men got tired of women complaining about getting male attention.

[Renegade_Sailor]

You're over playing your hand.

[Anonymous]

It's probably your age.

[Pohjolan]

Maybe you haven't aged well?

[Hello4242]

Hahah

[Anonymous]

Women killed it.

[grega239]

Effort for woman? Are you serious?

[Sluttt]

Women are independent these days.

[Gaylordslav]

you're old n ugly now.

[strateguy632]

Just 31 age, not old.

[Gaylordslav]

@strateguy632 Old enough, and uglier than her prime