Who said that we hate breastfeeding, personally i do not and if had a wife, i'll make sure to buy her all the healthy food and make her happy so she be able to produce lots of milk for our baby...
The thing is that a woman shouldn't be breastfeeding in public and if she have to than she must cover herself in a way no one can see her boobs because a woman's boobs are private parts and only your husband can see them and it's not for everyone to see, that's all...
If you have to breastfeed your baby, you don't have to show your boob for everyone...
Even if i saw a woman breastfeeding her baby in public and something from her boob was visible, i'll stare away because i'm a respectful man and shouldn't be looking at a woman's private parts especially that she's married and have a man...
nobody enjoys seeing that kind of pornography in public especially if there are underage kids around. if i were a mother , i would never ever breast feed in public. I would pump milk in a bottle for my baby at home, so that I wouldn't have to do something as socially unacceptable as pulling out my breast in public. Its out of respect for other members of society.
I was on a train where this woman pulled out her breast to breastfeed and honestly 75-80% people were glaring at her. Its really not an excuse to be unprepared and not take proper precautions. No excuses.
What the actual fuck? IT IS NOT PORNOGRAPHY! I am feeding my children from my mammary glands as they were designed to do. How did you get so removed from this?
why do you think women invest so much into wearing bras to hide nipples? why do you think its illegal to walk out into the streets naked? if its super hot in the summer, why don't you see people taking off all their clothes and walking nude?
because its not socially acceptable to appear that way in public. nobody wants to see your privates areas. there is a reason why they are called "private parts". They're supposed to be PRIVATE.
Why do you think women wear swim suits on beaches? to cover up private parts.
its to respect other people in society. nobody wants to see that shit.
It is very healthy for children to see mammary being used for their intended purpose. Decreases the stigma. It’s not like my breasts are flopping all over the place. The baby’s head covers it and the law protects my right to feed my kid.
Sure you’re not gonna get arrested for being rude and indecent. But prepare for people to glare or look down on you. Disturbing others and possibly violating little children just To feed your own child. How selfish.
It’s about time you stop making dumb excuses and admit that you simply don’t respect other members of society
If I had a baby, I would rather spend 2 hours a day pumping milk into a bottle so I wouldn’t have to breast feed in public.
And even if I did have to breastfeed I would run to a remote corner where there is no people with my back turned to make sure nobody sees me breastfeeding.
There are so many precautions and steps you can take to breastfeed respectfully instead of breast feeding rudely.
Some moms out there just simply don’t care about anyone else but themselves and their baby. It’s so inconsiderate
@aliali8 my dear you have evaded my question. Are my pics “rude breastfeeding?” Are they “pornography?” Because I find them rather beautiful and cherish them.
@aliali8 lecturing me on being respectful would be pointless. You already disrespected me by stating that feeding my baby was akin to pornography. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s not me who decides what is sexually explicit content and what isn't. It’s society. There are certain social etiquette rules that everyone follows in order to be respectful.
Same thing as placing your shopping carts back in it’s proper place after you use it at the market. Same thing as saying please and thank you. Same thing as not taking off all your clothes in public in the summer heat. Same thing as holding the door for the person following you. Same thing as making sure your armpits don’t stink up the entire workplace.
It’s up to you to show society whether you are considerate or not.
Being immature and playing victim won’t make you look any better
@aliali8 you don’t see breastfeeding in playboy you do see it at playgrounds and play places and restaurants because it is natural and, in fact, not considered by anyone but you pornography.
You continue to evade my question. Are my breastfeeding series photos pornography or are they a mother lovingly feeding her child?
Furthermore, if it were pornography these would not be allowed on G@G in the first place due to the rules and certainly not in the Health & Fitness category. But would ya look at that, there they are.
Oh, I know why, because it isn’t pornography it is me lovingly providing the best food for my baby from my body. The end.
The act of breastfeeding is not pornography. But the fact you are revealing sexual parts of yourself to others in public , especially young children, is already breaking social etiquette and rules.
If it’s ok for you to expose yourself to breast feed , why can’t everyone else in public strip naked when it’s 90 degrees Hot outside?
Why don’t you just admit you’re rude and inconsiderate instead of arguing and pretending that you are not?
And I honestly feel sorry for any child being raised by parents who have no respect for social etiquette or consideration for others in Society.
People judge you according to how you portray yourself.
I can very well also feed my child the best breast milk on earth while obeying social etiquette and respecting others. The only difference between you and me is you just won’t take the proper precautions
@aliali8 I don’t and shouldn’t have to because it is perfectly socially acceptable for mammals to feed their young from their mammary glands. You sound absurd. 😂😂😂😂
@aliali8 oh I always say please and thank you I am very kind and polite. I also politely feed my child when and where he is hungry because it is socially acceptable and protected under the law. If it was considered indecent exposure I would be arrested. Instead the law protects me. 😇
I doubt you say please and thank you all the time nor are you kind. You’re probably one of those people who never think about holding the door for the person behind you. Or the type who would close the elevator Door and bring yourself up to your floor while there are people still running for the elevator.
I doubt you would Even care if someone at the market called you rude.
It’s your actions that prove if you are rude or not , not words
Lmao! Wow. Me thinks someone doth protest too much. Would appear you are projecting on to me @aliali8 because you literally described the opposite of you. It’s really sad us kind people have to deal with judgy hypocrites like you. Tisk tisk.
You literally have the same attitude as a 16 yr old throwing a tantrum after her parents have grounded her for doing something wrong. I don’t see anything mature or respectful about you at all
It takes a certain amount of “inconsiderateness” And “selfishness” to not care about Other people feeling uncomfortable or frowning upon what you’re doing. Normal people care about how others feel and what social etiquette is or how other people view them. I know it would bother me if someone called me rude. But for you, you’re like a sociopath. You dont feel remorse for anything.
I have no doubt that you would steal food once you run out of money to feed your baby.
@aliali8 that is where you are confused my dear. Normal people care that the baby is being fed and cared for. It in fact be would be inconsiderate, selfish and sociopathic to not feed my child. Furthermore I don’t think it registered to you how difficult it was to breastfeed my baby. I am not going to give up any chances to breastfeed him after how hard we worked to get him on my breast. Nope. So inconsiderate, selfish, judgmental, better than the law citizens like you can just mind your own beeswax and look away if your don’t like it. There are these convenient covers on your eyes called eyelids. Feel free to use them. You are welcome and goodnight.
I can still feed my baby while taking proper precautions. I can pump milk , or breast feed in a remote corner with my back turned so that nobody can see. I’d rather spend 2 hours a day pumping milk than to Indecently expose my sexual private parts to little children
Not only your child matters , other little children matter too. I wouldn’t understand why I still have to explain this to you
I don’t see how you would still feel comfortable with that many people glaring at you as you breastfeed. And how are you comfortable exposing such intimate parts of yourself to the public?
Why do you think women Spend so much money on bras to cover up their Breasts under their shirts?
And it all boils down to a lack of consciousness and extreme lack of care. I’d say you fall Somewhere along the spectrum Of sociopathy. When someone tells you that you are rude , it doesn’t bother you. when a lot of people glare at you , it doesn’t bother you. When you violate little children, you don’t care
@aliali8 if mammary glands are considered a “sexually explicit body part” why does the law support us breastfeeding in public? 🤔
“All fifty states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands have laws that specifically allow women to breastfeed in any public or private location. Thirty-one states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands exempt breastfeeding from public indecency laws.”
If mammary glands were not sexually explicit then why do women have to be naked in playboy magazines? Why do women have to wear swimsuit bras to cover breasts up in public?
The law doesn’t mean anything. They just legalized abortion. Is killing innocent unborn babies morally correct?
@aliali8 people like you set our society back. People like you make women scared to feed their babies from their mammary glands because you think a baby slipping off a nipple for a second is the same as a playboy centerfold. And somehow you cannot comprehend how ridiculous that sounds. Lol
Ohhh I plan on having MANY children in a few years from now, but I have no plans on breast feeding in public. Sure it’s a convenient way for moms to be super lazy and never have to touch a breast pump ever in their lives.
Sure it’s easier to be rude to others instead to pump milk or drive to a remote location to breastfeed.
Most new born moms do not breastfeed in public. They know better. It’s only the sociopaths who don’t care about anyone or anything but themselves don’t care about social etiquette.
You’re not the only one having babies. But you are the only one who is rude.
Many people feel uncomfortable being naked in front of strangers or even their own family members. Open the shower Curtain while someone takes a shower , I will garuantee that they will scream, cover themselves up and throw you out of the bathroom.
But for some Strange people , being naked doesn’t cause any embarrassment. They’re proud to expose themselves.
Breastfeeding Respectfully is not Hard. If you’re in A public place , just find a wall corner and turn your back towards everyone there while you breastfeed. Nobody cares if you are breast feeding. People have nothing against breastfeeding. But People Will Really appreciate More if you just turned around while you do it instead of completely exposing yourself.
I don’t see how hard it is just to do small precautions
“ Do me a favor. Find me in a few years and let me know how well that worked out for ya”
Haha under no circumstances will I ever embarrass myself in front of strangers to breastfeed my child , if I know my baby had feeding problems , Then I won’t bring it out of the house As much.
Id rather pump milk every two hours a day in order to feed my child than to do something as embarrassing and socially awkward as that.
@aliali8 so I need to turn my back from the people I am enjoying a meal with simply because I am nourishing my child from my mammary glands? I am supposed to hide it from 7 year old in my own home? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
Not everyone is comfortable being naked in public hun. Just because you don’t mind being a nudist , it doesn’t mean other people are comfortable doing that or even seeing that
I don’t see how little precautions such as turning around would be so bothersome to you. Just comes to show how little other people mean to you.
You’re acting as if me asking you to turn around To breastfeed is like asking you to kill your baby.
It’s really not that big of a deal. It’s just a matter of being polite to others. Same way you don’t fart or burp in front of other people. Same way you always wear deodorant to work so you don’t stink up the entire place. It’s very basic etiquette.
@aliali8 I most certainly am not lol. But breastfeeding is not pornography, nudism, rude or any of the other superlatives you seem to be pulling out of your ass. 😂
And you better believe I have underage kids around a breast feeding woman, you better believe that I would take off with them in the other direction as fast as possible. You’re not gonna get a kind word from me either. There’s nothing as inappropriate as showing sexually explicit content to kids.
@aliali8 it is not sexually explicit. 😂 So, you evaded my question. Shall I hide from my 7 year old son in my own home while I provide nourishment to his brother?
It’s not up to you to decide what sexually explicit content. I don’t want my kids seeing that kind of stuff when they are clearly underage. You do Watever you want with your kids, show them porn or playboy. I don’t care. But I don’t want my kids exposed to that kind of stuff
The law won’t arrest you for burping or farting in public. The law won’t arrest you for being rude to other people in public. The law won’t arrest you for not wearing stinking up the entire workplace because you refused to wear deodorant. Nobody is gonna arrest you for never ever saying please or thank you. Neither is anyone gonna arrest you for intentionally holding the door open for the person behind you.
But guess what? It still makes you look bad in front of others regardless if you get arrested or not.
You expect me to believe that you won’t get aroused by seeing a breast pop out? Playboy magazine is full of women that are stripped naked. Why don’t you ahead and show that to your 8 yr old son?
Kids should be watching cartoons and reading books and movies that are rated PG-13. No movie will be rated PG-13 with a naked woman in it.
OMG! The typos in this thread bring me back to this vid. Lemme just say @aliali8 I hope to all that is holy you never conceive a child and become “pregnart.”
lol but guys have their nipples out all the time and dont even tell me women dont get turned on by them. I can't tell you the number of women that talked about sucking and biting mine XD
what people say and what i've seen. Totally different realities. If she's attracted to him she might be into it. I like women but boobs are not the first thing i am drawn too. I totally check out a woman's eyes and hair before anything else and YES i can get aroused on that. Basically destigmatize it and normalize it like it was meant to be. Your ancestors did it for hundreds of thousands of years and it was normal. Now in the last hundred or so everybody wants to act like they are so virtuous and civilized. These same people are often the ones least virtuous lol.
mens nipples are not sexualized by society. And I'm sure there are weirdos who can get sexually aroused by the weirdest shit on earth. There are people who get sexually aroused by pain or feet. But I wouldn't say its encompasses the overwhelming majority of the population.
It's sexualized because we decided one day it was an issue. There's really no good reason for it. And besides you act like your own child has never seen you tits
No. Clearly you have no idea how to turn on a man and no having an erection is not the same as being turned on.
But even if i were, that would not alter the fact that the intention of breast feeding is the nourishment of a child, it is not to arouse, therefore it is not pornography.
This is an unassailable objective fact. What you think does not matter, what i might think about it doesn't matter either, it doesn't alter the fact because it is a fact all on its own, completely independent of what anyone might think about it.
So please, get a fucking clue, join the reality you are attempting to participate in.
you very well know that a breast is deemed as a sexual body part by society. So don't come on here and tell me that its PG-13 for kids to see something like that. I don't give a flying fuck what the context is, if you're gonna expose a sexually explicit body part in front of my child, its gonna be immoral. Nothing you say will ever convince me that showing play boy magazine filled with naked women in front of an 8 yr old kid is morally correct.
And NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU WON'T GET AROUSED BY BREASTFEEDING. Men are visually stimulated. It doesn't take much for a man to get an erection.
why don't you quit the lies? do you really think I'm a naive 14 yr old who will believe any kind of lie that you're spew out?
I think you should go on a freak show where you strip off all your clothes and live as a permanent nudist lady. It would be such an attraction for pervs
@aliali8 There are no doubt many reasons why you are struggling with this but chief amoung them is that you dont care about context and you are required to.
It is because of your refusal to acknowledge context that you are incapable of grasping this situation.
A breast in a playboy magazine and breast feeding a child are not synonymous.
I have already explained to you what pornography means in reality, you own private definitions are not relevant when you are outside of your own mind.
@aliali8 I’m actually quite modest when I feed my babies. I believe you evaded my question. Are the 3 pics of me nourishing my children pornography in your eyes? 🤔
Overwhelming majority of new moms do not breastfeed in public. Its uncommon to see a woman breastfeeding in public. Because most women know better than to do that. Sure, some crazies are comfortable revealing their breast in front of the entire world. But its not the majority.
@aliali8 @guffrus never said he shows porn to his children. In fact he made the very sane point that breastfeeding and pornography are completely different due to context.
@aliali8, my dear it is not OK to put words in other peoples mouths. It is clear to me that you are in fact the most ignorant person on G@G congrats, as that is really hard to do. Because you have proven such ignorance, insulted my parenting and dug your heels in when proven wrong, I am now certain I don’t ever want to interact with you again. Therefore I am blocking you. Bye Felicia.
@aliali8 The reason you are attacking me is because you are incapble of arguing your point, which is understandable really because your arguments have been destroyed and all that is left is your hatred.
You called me a liar back along though, lets talk about that. I would be very pleased if you cared even a little bit about truth but that isn't what is important to you.
Its pretty obvious listening to you speak that you are quite heavily invested into religious dogma.
There is no evidence to support the claim that there are any Gods and everything that we do know strongly suggests that there isn't.
You deliberately misuse words and twist their meaning to suit your intolerant and abusive agendas.
Seems to me that you are the servant of darkness here.
I am perfectly comfortable with my solid and defensible moral foundation built from a basis of equality and freedom and I wish you could experience it too.
Your belief system betrays and shames you and puts you inconflict with others as you impotently try to unjustly impose your will on them.
how do you do something as immoral as exposing innocent children to sexually explicit content? yet make excuses on how its ok to do such a thing under the guise of "different context".
Do you have a conscience at all? or is it only your child that matters while other kids don't matter at all to you?
you're better off admitting that exposing a sexually explicit body part in front of underage kids is wrong rather than to argue with me that kids should be exposed to naked topless exposed women. At least this way , you can prove that you have some sort of morals or a conscience.
when the simple act of turning around to breastfeed your child is as hard you jumping off a cliff, you know you're inconsiderate. how hard is it to simply turn around? am i asking you for million dollars? am i asking you to jump off a cliff? am i asking you to kill your baby? what is the huge fuss?
I've never understood the objection, except for the few mothers who have absolutely zero decorum. This is the most natural and normal thing, so the fact that some people are so offended tells us how screwed up some people's thinking really is.
Like most Mom's you wanted only the BEST for you baby, you tried like hell and is all anyone can do... You did not fail, you did the right things... BRAVO... sometimes some women have more problems than others... God Bless
People need to pull their heads out of their own arse. Its a boob or nipple everyone has one. Mothers should not be ashamed about their bodies or feeding their child.
My second child was 6 weeks early and I fed her my milk with a syringe for the first two weeks until she finally got to latch on. My oldest took to the breast right away. All of my friends, mom, dad, sis and husband have seen me nurse and have NEVER said it was rude. I am totally for a woman breastfeeding whether they try to hide it or not. I am not ashamed to flop a boob out and let her go at it. She does it 5 times a day at the moment.
I don't think 99% of people hate on this issue at all. Where the issue stems from is the small fraction of people who'll whip their breast out in public without making any effort to conceal themselves.
Just because breast feeding is a completely natural thing doesn't mean it can't be done politely.
Miss agape your right it's a tit but it's also a private part and shouldn't be visible to everyone... You can't show your private parts to everyone just because you want to breastfeed your baby...
You can do it if you have to but making sure that your covered, sometimes if the husband is present he will make sure to cover his wife so she breastfeeds her baby...
It's not like that, just saying it's only a tit, it's only a butt, it's only a pus*y, there are morals, values and disciplines in this life...
All fifty states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands have laws that specifically allow women to breastfeed in any public or private location. Thirty-one states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands exempt breastfeeding from public indecency laws.
It's only 1 photo and i actually didn't focus on it, i don't care about what the rules or laws says, my future wife won't be allowed to do such a thing in public at all...
If someday the law allowed people to walk naked in public, than would it be something good? NOPE it sure isen't...
The society is corrupted and these people who are making these new laws are a bunch of trash and that's why the world is becoming like that today!
It's not something to be proud off showing boobs in public under the name of breastfeeding because these are private parts and they will always be, people shouldn't wait for a bunch of laws to tell them what they can and can't do!
We must set our own boundaries and red lines...
Anyways your free to do whatever you want but i'm against these laws and i have my own views and ideology...
@TonyMetal___86 actually it is 3. Feel free to check out the other 2 mytakes in the series. With all due respect the way you described what you would “not let your future wife” do in terms of nourishing your child sounds very controlling.
It is sad our society as sexualized mammary glands to the point it makes it difficult for mothers to feed their children.
I do not intend to attack you in any way and I know you mean well as I said on another post this morning.
Miss loves2learn i'm a cave man from the stone ages and i'm happy about it 😄
Not letting my future wife doing this ain't actuslly controlling, it's doing the right thing and the man is the head of the house that's my believe but i'll love my wife the way i love myself and will take care of her, feed her and be always there for her, i'll treat her the way i treat myself if not better..
I think you do know that my future wife will be a housewife cause i'll never marry a girk who doesn't adores becoming a housewife 😊
I surely will never attack you because we might differ on this subject but your still an awesome mother with a white innocent heart, i just want you to be safe and happy and you deserve all the good things coming to you, i hope that when your babies grow older, they must realize that they have a precious priceless mother whom they should love forever and never abondon her...
Personally i'll never stop my future wife from feeding our baby but i'll try as much as possible to be in a private place but if i was forced for some reason and found no way than i'll surely let her breastfeed our baby in public but i'll make sure to cover them and let no one see a thing, as a man i should provide the safety environment for breastfeeding in a way that no one can see my wife's boobs but at the same time she will be able breastfeed our baby 😌
After she finishes she will get a lovely kiss from me and the baby will get a kiss because they both are a part of me and their happiness is my happiness...
We still talk about it @Andres77 and I still tear up. He doubles down on his stance that it “was not necessary” and that it made things harder for him when he cared for our son 3 days per week for 2 hours while I finished my workday.
Apparently our son asking when mama would be home so he could nurse was not ok. 😔😔😔
Was posting this about breastfeeding any help? Did you feel you received enough support to be able to say to yourself " fuck what they think. I was right!"?
It's not about the breastfeeding but it's about the boobs. That's like one of those victim cards pulled like bringing up race, gender, ethnicity or etc. when you're told something not to do. The point is it has nothing to do with that just like nothing to do with breast feeding but people are more like telling you to take precautions because your boobs are exposed. It's not because you're breast feeding. This is exactly why everyone put clothes on. You don't see girls normally walking around with their boobs outside their shirt collar because they are sexual organs and it turn on guys. Even if guys don't do anything, they get the urge but of course you'd just call them creeps for something natural for them. Here's a fact, women gets aroused when they breast feed but no one would consider them freaks for that even if it's natural. So yes it's only natural if guys gets aroused by it as well if you're fine with breast feeding in public, you don't have to complain if anyone looks at it.
Maybe if you interpret things a little better, it wouldn't feel that way. Why would people be against breastfeeding alone when that's a necessary when it comes to raising a new life? I don't know why you just refuse to think "maybe it's because my boobs are exposed" which is a no brainer.
It's not even required to always be at home when you nurse your baby. That's why covers exists for like 10$? (But we all know most of the time, it's the husband gonna be paying for it for extras) How oppressed and it's not like you're carrying tons of dumbbell plates with you. I get those excuses saying "it's not safe for the baby or the baby is uncomfortable" BS even if it's proven safe and babies always have the capability to adjust when really those who complains about it are just don't like the responsibility of taking precaution or just lazy. That's one thing you should consider before having a baby.
feminists love to find excuses for exposing their bodies. Everything should be abouit their own bodies. Even when it comes to abortion they make it a body issue when it is not a body issue. They get abortion becasue they want to end the baby's life.
I know. I don't care. I said they revolve everything around their bodies. They don't care about feeding the baby as much as they care about being free to expose their boobs.
@Милашка Exactly. The hate isn't directed at the act of breastfeeding. On its own, breastfeeding is beautiful, natural, and necessary for baby development. The hate is only directed at these women who are constantly trying to find excuses to expose themselves. Young girls are fighting to expose themselves in school by trying to allow booty shorts and crop tops etc on school property. Adult women are constantly defending their indecency in public.
Except for those who doesn't really care and just do it anyways in public without any cover. But if you don't really expose yourself and cover yourself while doing it then you don't get the hate
So it seems like you're still ignoring how that is actually just an excuse when just don't like to. I may not be a mom but i was once a breast fed child under a cover but did i care? I couldn't remember anything anyways. You just ignored what i said about the fact that baby is always have the capability to adjust. So what if your baby doesn't want to sleep and keep crying unless you're rocking the baby? Will you keep rocking the baby overnight and not getting a sleep yourself? Really it's common sense and i didn't remember how many times i cried as a baby, I didn't remember when i started shutting up. It's either you train your baby to get used to it or you just hide. That is your responsibility
Also have you even considered even if you are in private, you use the cover anyways to train that baby? You have no excuse doing that if you have the time breastfeeding your child. And again this isn't about it's because you are covering him because he is eating or something but again it above your boobs. don't you get it? What if i say you are not covering him while he is eating but you are just covering your boobs? How is it so hard to just comprehend it like that? Also, you're not a guy so you won't get it. You don't get how a guy would feel if they see your tits. A lot of times guys may be able to control it but it's not easy and to take precaution is to actually hide it from actually guys who don't or just cannot control. So don't tell me you're also gonna leave your car open and then only to complain if a thief gets in and steal something.
Another situation would be would you leave your purse on a table because it annoying to take it with you when you go to the restroom? Because it's always not your fault right? Sure anyone has control over it but you don't know how it feels to be a starving person seeing a purse with a wallet full of cash left unguarded.
Your argument is absurd. Plus he pulled the blanket off because he was hot. @Apple1996 can you believe what this guy is saying? Apparently we should “train” our babies by covering with a blanket at home.
@loves2learn What's the problem with that idea? Humans are adaptable. We adapt to changes all the time. My sister used to put the breastfeeding blanket over my niece at home when my niece was a baby in order for her to get used to it. Eventually the blanket wasn't a problem anymore and was used whenever she was out.
@Милашка you should go back to your delusional world. All mothers want to do is feed their kid. They are not like some slots out there that flash their tits at everyone. Give me a break
@Aiko_E_Lara Whoa.. did your rambling diatribe just accuse those who breastfeed as welcoming potential rape? You are unbelievable. How about less talking and more listening. @loved2learn ignore this person. Great write-up. You’re a damn fine mother.
@dustybiker and why do you keep saying it is about the breastfeeding when i was clearly saying it isn't about the breastfeeding? Oh yes that is another way to miss constru what i said to give yourself an excuse to give a straw man argument and ofcourse despite your argument being a fallacy, of course @love2learn would really like to appeal to that because i see she is just looking for a confirmation bias at this point. You're not giving any counterarguments and what i said still stands
@dustybiker oh by the way did i say that it is not ok to breastfeed in public? I'm saying you cannot show your boobs in public. Not you can't breastfeeding in public. There is a big difference You're not even reading anything and there you are already saying i am wrong and you're right and that's it.
Ignoring anything doesn't really makes the logic way. It's ironic when someone who @loves2learn just seek for validations
Not seeking validations @Aiko_E_Lara you are just plain wrong.
There is a reason a breastfeeding mother cannot be charged with indecent exposure. BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL IF THE NIPPLE IS EXPOSED WHILE BREASTFEEDING.
I personally was quite stealthy and am not aware of any times when my nipple was exposed in public. I was also painfully modest for most of my life. I did not want to expose myself, I JUST WANTED TO FEED MY BABIES.
Another strawman argument right there. DID I SAY YOU CAN'T FEED YOUR BABY? This is what i mean when people deliberately misconstrue what anyone else say to give themselves excuses to be offended. No one here is trying to advocate that women should be charged for breast feeding in public but i'm here giving you a proper reason why you get the backlash when you do breastfeed in public. You're calling me "plain wrong" yet you're not even giving any counter arguments to the rest of what i said.
You're still missing the point. While i'm not even saying it should be illegal, I'm still saying it is your responsibility to take precaution. Like the examples i gave, sure it's legal to leave your purse somewhere but it's illegal to steel. Not all the time the laws have to be responsible for your actions.
You sure get some absolute idiots arguing against common sense. There must be a sale on stupid pills somewhere and they found it. Amazed at your calm with all this absurdity.
@loves2learn Another irony i love to point out. People supports guns so much because not all the time the law helps you so you need a self defense. But when it comes to breastfeeding, you won't bother. I guess you'd rather own a 200$ gun but this thing is just too much Or you can't even just bother using a small handkerchief to censor your boobs. Haiya...
@Aiko_E_Lara your argument is circular and you continue to miss the point. I owner those worthless pieces of fabric. My younger child was too hot/uncomfortable under them to use them.
Oh I just realized something, nice try trying to get Apple1996 involved in this argument when we already did settle for this kind of argument. Also if you're really talking about people who just hates breastfeeding by itself like what Apple1996 is talking about here, then yes there's something wrong with those people. However, there always is nothing wrong for anyone who asks you to cover up unless they're being jerks.
And if you're educated yourself, how come you're so ignorant with those facts i mentioned? So I don't really think he's referring to me. Anyways, i know just simply calling someone a moron without giving any real argument just makes anyone sound more stupid that who they're calling.
I brought @Apple1996 in because she had a baby who ran hot and wouldn’t tolerate the blanket either. You, @Aiko_E_Lara are not a mother and never have nor will breastfeed a child so you really cannot claim to have any stance on the matter. I hope when/if you have kids you come to your senses.
sure if it's hot and uncomfortable, look for a smaller with a lighter fabric and it doesn't have to be completely non see through. I've been looking at how soft those fabrics are so you can easily fold it to let air come in. Like what @Wraith_Cemetery said, humans are adaptable specially if they're babies. And if you don't have the patients to train your baby to breastfeed under a cover, then good luck dealing with a spoiled brat.
Also you skipped the part where i said even a small handkerchief can do. So yeah you're all given the option to breast feed in public but i'm not surprised with the backlashes you get if you don't even cover up. That's the trade off. It's either you not care or cover up. It's up to you. Because really those facts doesn't really care about feelings and still stands whether you like it or not.
And ofcourse, talking about circular argument when ironically, you're like "you're wrong because you're an idiot" So what's your point repeating the same fallacy if you don't want me to keep repeating what i said?
Ok that's good you're beginning to understand my point of actually covering it. Also that statement tho "If you don’t like it, don’t look." It's not that men don't like it. It's that men likes it but only have been controlling themselves. If one is like "screw it i'll just grop it i don't care", then that's partly your fault. Look i know girls can be gropped even if they're not nursing. But you're increasing the chance when you show it.
Where did I say she deserves to be raped? Another straw man argument i see? Because i said it's partly your fault? Geez why do women always jump to that conclusion? Look, if I get stolen because i left my pocket open, I'd blame myself partly but i doesn't mean i deserved to be pick pocketed. Use that mistake as a lesson. But i see you don't like to learn right?
I am saying both arguments suck. And no, I won’t make my baby uncomfortable because some perv might grope me and no I did not ask to be groped by feeding my baby. That is absurd. Just no.
Then it's up you. Don't complain if you get groped. I'm just saying. After all, what i'm doing is just giving you the perspective of people telling you to cover it.
I can and will complain if I get groped. Feeding my kid is not asking to be groped. So fucking what if mammary glands are exposed doing the thing they were literally designed for? Howwwww have we as a society gotten so far away from nature that we worry more about mammary gland exposure than the comfort of feeding infants?
Sure you can because it's a right. But you don't expect anyone to stop the gropper right way. Just like exposing my wallet, i didn't ask for them to steel it. "Howwwww have we as a society gotten so far away from nature that we worry more about mammary gland exposure than the comfort of feeding infants?" Yeah you wanna talk about how natural it is to breast feed yet you failed to realized that women had always been hiding just like other mammals when they do. If we're that far from nature, then we wouldn't really be biological creatures by now who have no hormones to feel aroused anymore. If you're far from nature, you wouldn't be breastfeeding. But how come that's still the case? It's because we're still humans.
The 3 breast feeding picture you gave maybe inappropriate if it's in a random post nothing to do with breastfeeding. I personally don't care about your picture but of all the people seeing it, i doubt there's exactly none of them jerking of to it in secret.
I can just say mammals do hide their young because it leaves them vulnerable. And if you don't see jerking off about your tits is a problem then good for you. I guess it shouldn't also be a problem if anyone stares at your boobs. I mean yeah you can complain about that but you're also gonna have to expect anyone saying "why don't you cover"?
@Red_Arrow yeah she seems really calm while name calling and stuff and not even giving any real counter arguments. Maybe you would be raging because i you know logic always get in people's nerves
While breasts may have evolved to be secondary sexual characteristics in humans we shouldn't let that blind us to the fact that their primary purpose is to feed their young.
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Who said that we hate breastfeeding, personally i do not and if had a wife, i'll make sure to buy her all the healthy food and make her happy so she be able to produce lots of milk for our baby...
The thing is that a woman shouldn't be breastfeeding in public and if she have to than she must cover herself in a way no one can see her boobs because a woman's boobs are private parts and only your husband can see them and it's not for everyone to see, that's all...
If you have to breastfeed your baby, you don't have to show your boob for everyone...
Even if i saw a woman breastfeeding her baby in public and something from her boob was visible, i'll stare away because i'm a respectful man and shouldn't be looking at a woman's private parts especially that she's married and have a man...
nobody enjoys seeing that kind of pornography in public especially if there are underage kids around. if i were a mother , i would never ever breast feed in public. I would pump milk in a bottle for my baby at home, so that I wouldn't have to do something as socially unacceptable as pulling out my breast in public. Its out of respect for other members of society.
I was on a train where this woman pulled out her breast to breastfeed and honestly 75-80% people were glaring at her. Its really not an excuse to be unprepared and not take proper precautions. No excuses.
What the actual fuck? IT IS NOT PORNOGRAPHY! I am feeding my children from my mammary glands as they were designed to do. How did you get so removed from this?
Why do you think its illegal for children to watch porn, if its ok to see a raw open breast in public?
why do you think women invest so much into wearing bras to hide nipples? why do you think its illegal to walk out into the streets naked? if its super hot in the summer, why don't you see people taking off all their clothes and walking nude?
because its not socially acceptable to appear that way in public. nobody wants to see your privates areas. there is a reason why they are called "private parts". They're supposed to be PRIVATE.
Why do you think women wear swim suits on beaches? to cover up private parts.
its to respect other people in society. nobody wants to see that shit.
i don't want my 8 yr old son seeing a raw bare breast in public either. its just not PG-13
@aliali8 So, breasts are not suitable for children?
It is very healthy for children to see mammary being used for their intended purpose. Decreases the stigma. It’s not like my breasts are flopping all over the place. The baby’s head covers it and the law protects my right to feed my kid.
@loves2learn
Sure you’re not gonna get arrested for being rude and indecent. But prepare for people to glare or look down on you. Disturbing others and possibly violating little children just To feed your own child. How selfish.
It’s about time you stop making dumb excuses and admit that you simply don’t respect other members of society
@aliali8 literally all of that is false. But thanks anyway. Good day. 😊
@Guffrus
Would you think it’s ok for a 8 yr old to watch pornography or read a playboy magazine?
@aliali8 Neither of those things is remotely close to breastfeeding a child. 😂
I mean look at my 3 pics in this series (which have not been removed) and try to tell me that is pornography. Utter poppycock.
If I had a baby, I would rather spend 2 hours a day pumping milk into a bottle so I wouldn’t have to breast feed in public.
And even if I did have to breastfeed I would run to a remote corner where there is no people with my back turned to make sure nobody sees me breastfeeding.
There are so many precautions and steps you can take to breastfeed respectfully instead of breast feeding rudely.
Some moms out there just simply don’t care about anyone else but themselves and their baby. It’s so inconsiderate
@aliali8 my dear you have evaded my question. Are my pics “rude breastfeeding?” Are they “pornography?” Because I find them rather beautiful and cherish them.
@loves2learn
Hun it’s not only you that matters in this world. It’s not only about how you feel , it’s also About how other people feel.
Being respectful And considerate can not be taught. Either You have it or you don’t. I’m not gonna sit there and lecture you on how to be respectful.
@aliali8 lecturing me on being respectful would be pointless. You already disrespected me by stating that feeding my baby was akin to pornography. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@loves2learn
It’s not me who decides what is sexually explicit content and what isn't. It’s society. There are certain social etiquette rules that everyone follows in order to be respectful.
Same thing as placing your shopping carts back in it’s proper place after you use it at the market. Same thing as saying please and thank you. Same thing as not taking off all your clothes in public in the summer heat. Same thing as holding the door for the person following you. Same thing as making sure your armpits don’t stink up the entire workplace.
It’s up to you to show society whether you are considerate or not.
Being immature and playing victim won’t make you look any better
@loves2learn
I don’t need my kids being exposed to something that you see in porn or a playboy magazine.
@aliali8 you don’t see breastfeeding in playboy you do see it at playgrounds and play places and restaurants because it is natural and, in fact, not considered by anyone but you pornography.
You continue to evade my question. Are my breastfeeding series photos pornography or are they a mother lovingly feeding her child?
Furthermore, if it were pornography these would not be allowed on G@G in the first place due to the rules and certainly not in the Health & Fitness category. But would ya look at that, there they are.
Oh, I know why, because it isn’t pornography it is me lovingly providing the best food for my baby from my body. The end.
@loves2learn
The act of breastfeeding is not pornography. But the fact you are revealing sexual parts of yourself to others in public , especially young children, is already breaking social etiquette and rules.
If it’s ok for you to expose yourself to breast feed , why can’t everyone else in public strip naked when it’s 90 degrees Hot outside?
Why don’t you just admit you’re rude and inconsiderate instead of arguing and pretending that you are not?
Lmao. I will not admit or apologize for using my mammary glands for their God-given purpose. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@loves2learn
And I honestly feel sorry for any child being raised by parents who have no respect for social etiquette or consideration for others in Society.
People judge you according to how you portray yourself.
I can very well also feed my child the best breast milk on earth while obeying social etiquette and respecting others. The only difference between you and me is you just won’t take the proper precautions
@aliali8 I don’t and shouldn’t have to because it is perfectly socially acceptable for mammals to feed their young from their mammary glands. You sound absurd. 😂😂😂😂
@loves2learn
It’s not up to you to determine what social etiquette is in our society.
Just because you don’t like to say please and thank you to others , it doesn’t mean that nobody else in Society should say please and thank you
Just because you like to take off all your clothes in 90 degree summer heat , it doesn’t mean society would accept it as their new norm either
The world doesn’t revolve around you. You’re not the only one that matters in the world
@aliali8 oh I always say please and thank you I am very kind and polite. I also politely feed my child when and where he is hungry because it is socially acceptable and protected under the law. If it was considered indecent exposure I would be arrested. Instead the law protects me. 😇
@loves2learn
I doubt you say please and thank you all the time nor are you kind. You’re probably one of those people who never think about holding the door for the person behind you. Or the type who would close the elevator Door and bring yourself up to your floor while there are people still running for the elevator.
I doubt you would Even care if someone at the market called you rude.
It’s your actions that prove if you are rude or not , not words
@loves2learn
From reading your writing , I just see a woman with the maturity of a defiant teenage girl.
Lmao! Wow. Me thinks someone doth protest too much. Would appear you are projecting on to me @aliali8 because you literally described the opposite of you. It’s really sad us kind people have to deal with judgy hypocrites like you. Tisk tisk.
@loves2learn
You literally have the same attitude as a 16 yr old throwing a tantrum after her parents have grounded her for doing something wrong. I don’t see anything mature or respectful about you at all
Ohhhh, another lovely projection. Thank for that @aliali8. 🥰
You took the words right out of my mouth. Ms. @aliali8. Described yourself perfectly.
@loves2learn
It takes a certain amount of “inconsiderateness” And “selfishness” to not care about Other people feeling uncomfortable or frowning upon what you’re doing. Normal people care about how others feel and what social etiquette is or how other people view them. I know it would bother me if someone called me rude. But for you, you’re like a sociopath. You dont feel remorse for anything.
I have no doubt that you would steal food once you run out of money to feed your baby.
@aliali8 that is where you are confused my dear. Normal people care that the baby is being fed and cared for. It in fact be would be inconsiderate, selfish and sociopathic to not feed my child. Furthermore I don’t think it registered to you how difficult it was to breastfeed my baby. I am not going to give up any chances to breastfeed him after how hard we worked to get him on my breast. Nope. So inconsiderate, selfish, judgmental, better than the law citizens like you can just mind your own beeswax and look away if your don’t like it. There are these convenient covers on your eyes called eyelids. Feel free to use them. You are welcome and goodnight.
@loves2learn
I can still feed my baby while taking proper precautions. I can pump milk , or breast feed in a remote corner with my back turned so that nobody can see. I’d rather spend 2 hours a day pumping milk than to Indecently expose my sexual private parts to little children
Not only your child matters , other little children matter too. I wouldn’t understand why I still have to explain this to you
@loves2learn
Why don’t you admit it? You’re rude and you don’t care because you’re a selfish sociopath.
@loves2learn
I don’t see how you would still feel comfortable with that many people glaring at you as you breastfeed. And how are you comfortable exposing such intimate parts of yourself to the public?
Why do you think women Spend so much money on bras to cover up their Breasts under their shirts?
And it all boils down to a lack of consciousness and extreme lack of care. I’d say you fall Somewhere along the spectrum Of sociopathy. When someone tells you that you are rude , it doesn’t bother you. when a lot of people glare at you , it doesn’t bother you. When you violate little children, you don’t care
You’re definitely not a normal human being
@aliali8 Quote: Would you think it’s ok for a 8 yr old to watch pornography or read a playboy magazine?
I am not going to allow you to lead me down that road. It isn't relevant, that is not what we are talking about.
Please stay on topic and if you are not able or not willing to do so then have the decency to concede your point.
@Guffrus
This never went off topic. A breast is deemed a sexually explicit private body part by our society. Nothing you ever say will change this fact.
I don’t believe in exposing children to sexually explicit content , is that so wrong?
@aliali8 if mammary glands are considered a “sexually explicit body part” why does the law support us breastfeeding in public? 🤔
“All fifty states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands have laws that specifically allow women to breastfeed in any public or private location. Thirty-one states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands exempt breastfeeding from public indecency laws.”
@loves2learn
If mammary glands were not sexually explicit then why do women have to be naked in playboy magazines? Why do women have to wear swimsuit bras to cover breasts up in public?
The law doesn’t mean anything. They just legalized abortion. Is killing innocent unborn babies morally correct?
@aliali8 people like you set our society back. People like you make women scared to feed their babies from their mammary glands because you think a baby slipping off a nipple for a second is the same as a playboy centerfold. And somehow you cannot comprehend how ridiculous that sounds. Lol
@loves2learn
Ohhh I plan on having MANY children in a few years from now, but I have no plans on breast feeding in public. Sure it’s a convenient way for moms to be super lazy and never have to touch a breast pump ever in their lives.
Sure it’s easier to be rude to others instead to pump milk or drive to a remote location to breastfeed.
Most new born moms do not breastfeed in public. They know better. It’s only the sociopaths who don’t care about anyone or anything but themselves don’t care about social etiquette.
You’re not the only one having babies. But you are the only one who is rude.
Do me a favor. Find me in a few years and let me know how well that worked out for ya @aliali8. 😇
@loves2learn
Many people feel uncomfortable being naked in front of strangers or even their own family members. Open the shower Curtain while someone takes a shower , I will garuantee that they will scream, cover themselves up and throw you out of the bathroom.
But for some Strange people , being naked doesn’t cause any embarrassment. They’re proud to expose themselves.
Breastfeeding Respectfully is not Hard. If you’re in A public place , just find a wall corner and turn your back towards everyone there while you breastfeed. Nobody cares if you are breast feeding. People have nothing against breastfeeding. But People Will Really appreciate More if you just turned around while you do it instead of completely exposing yourself.
I don’t see how hard it is just to do small precautions
@loves2learn
“ Do me a favor. Find me in a few years and let me know how well that worked out for ya”
Haha under no circumstances will I ever embarrass myself in front of strangers to breastfeed my child , if I know my baby had feeding problems , Then I won’t bring it out of the house As much.
Id rather pump milk every two hours a day in order to feed my child than to do something as embarrassing and socially awkward as that.
I’m not a lazy mom
@aliali8 I think you will find that in reality society is made up of the people who live in it, all of whom have different ideas.
You speak only for yourself, you do not speak for the world or even your nation.
@loves2learn
It’s hilarious how you equate “turning your back as you breastfeed” as the same thing as not feeding your child.
Why don’t you just stop playing victim and just admit that you simply have no Consideration for others in society?
@aliali8 so I need to turn my back from the people I am enjoying a meal with simply because I am nourishing my child from my mammary glands? I am supposed to hide it from 7 year old in my own home? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
@loves2learn
Not everyone is comfortable being naked in public hun. Just because you don’t mind being a nudist , it doesn’t mean other people are comfortable doing that or even seeing that
I don’t see how little precautions such as turning around would be so bothersome to you. Just comes to show how little other people mean to you.
@aliali8 I find it quite rude to turn my back on my dinner dates. Don’t you?
@loves2learn
You’re acting as if me asking you to turn around To breastfeed is like asking you to kill your baby.
It’s really not that big of a deal. It’s just a matter of being polite to others. Same way you don’t fart or burp in front of other people. Same way you always wear deodorant to work so you don’t stink up the entire place. It’s very basic etiquette.
@aliali8 I most certainly am not lol. But breastfeeding is not pornography, nudism, rude or any of the other superlatives you seem to be pulling out of your ass. 😂
@loves2learn
And you better believe I have underage kids around a breast feeding woman, you better believe that I would take off with them in the other direction as fast as possible. You’re not gonna get a kind word from me either. There’s nothing as inappropriate as showing sexually explicit content to kids.
@aliali8 it is not sexually explicit. 😂 So, you evaded my question. Shall I hide from my 7 year old son in my own home while I provide nourishment to his brother?
@loves2learn
It’s not up to you to decide what sexually explicit content. I don’t want my kids seeing that kind of stuff when they are clearly underage. You do Watever you want with your kids, show them porn or playboy. I don’t care. But I don’t want my kids exposed to that kind of stuff
@aliali8 I am not deciding. The law states it is not. Just facts. 😇
@loves2learn
The law won’t arrest you for burping or farting in public. The law won’t arrest you for being rude to other people in public. The law won’t arrest you for not wearing stinking up the entire workplace because you refused to wear deodorant. Nobody is gonna arrest you for never ever saying please or thank you. Neither is anyone gonna arrest you for intentionally holding the door open for the person behind you.
But guess what? It still makes you look bad in front of others regardless if you get arrested or not.
The law won’t arrest you for not stinking up the entire workplace because you refused to wear deodorant.
Neither is anyone gonna arrest you for NOT** intentionally holding the door open for the person behind you.
Typo:
Neither is anyone gonna arrest you for intentionally NOT holding the door open for the person behind you.
@aliali8 Look, this is really fucking simple, so just listen for a moment.
Words have meanings.
For something to be pornography, the intention MUST be to sexually arouse.
Breasts are NOT inherently sexual, they can be, but that is dependent on CONTEXT.
This is now over and you are on the wrong end of it.
@Guffrus
You expect me to believe that you won’t get aroused by seeing a breast pop out? Playboy magazine is full of women that are stripped naked. Why don’t you ahead and show that to your 8 yr old son?
Kids should be watching cartoons and reading books and movies that are rated PG-13. No movie will be rated PG-13 with a naked woman in it.
@guffrus
who cares about context if a raw bare sexual body part is exposed?
Do you think a movie will still be rated PG-13 if a raw breast popped out In the movie? I think not.
OMG! The typos in this thread bring me back to this vid. Lemme just say @aliali8 I hope to all that is holy you never conceive a child and become “pregnart.”
Enjoy! 😇
https://youtu.be/EShUeudtaFg
@gruffus gagger of the year for sticking with me through this one. 👊🏻
Dammit. My apologies @guffrus
@loves2learn
is that the best comeback you can come up with? changing the topic to typos right now cuz you don't want to admit that you were wrong?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 she attempts to hide her ignorance.
lol but guys have their nipples out all the time and dont even tell me women dont get turned on by them. I can't tell you the number of women that talked about sucking and biting mine XD
@t-8900
No woman is gonna get aroused by just seeing a naked man's nipples. why don't we just get real?
what people say and what i've seen. Totally different realities. If she's attracted to him she might be into it. I like women but boobs are not the first thing i am drawn too. I totally check out a woman's eyes and hair before anything else and YES i can get aroused on that. Basically destigmatize it and normalize it like it was meant to be. Your ancestors did it for hundreds of thousands of years and it was normal. Now in the last hundred or so everybody wants to act like they are so virtuous and civilized. These same people are often the ones least virtuous lol.
@t-8900
mens nipples are not sexualized by society. And I'm sure there are weirdos who can get sexually aroused by the weirdest shit on earth. There are people who get sexually aroused by pain or feet. But I wouldn't say its encompasses the overwhelming majority of the population.
It's sexualized because we decided one day it was an issue. There's really no good reason for it. And besides you act like your own child has never seen you tits
@aliali8 Would I get aroused if i saw a boob?
No. Clearly you have no idea how to turn on a man and no having an erection is not the same as being turned on.
But even if i were, that would not alter the fact that the intention of breast feeding is the nourishment of a child, it is not to arouse, therefore it is not pornography.
This is an unassailable objective fact. What you think does not matter, what i might think about it doesn't matter either, it doesn't alter the fact because it is a fact all on its own, completely independent of what anyone might think about it.
So please, get a fucking clue, join the reality you are attempting to participate in.
@Guffrus
you very well know that a breast is deemed as a sexual body part by society. So don't come on here and tell me that its PG-13 for kids to see something like that. I don't give a flying fuck what the context is, if you're gonna expose a sexually explicit body part in front of my child, its gonna be immoral. Nothing you say will ever convince me that showing play boy magazine filled with naked women in front of an 8 yr old kid is morally correct.
And NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU WON'T GET AROUSED BY BREASTFEEDING. Men are visually stimulated. It doesn't take much for a man to get an erection.
why don't you quit the lies? do you really think I'm a naive 14 yr old who will believe any kind of lie that you're spew out?
@guffrus
why don't you just take an honest look at yourself and admit how CORRUPT and INCONSIDERATE you are?
@guffrus she’s like a comedy act. Like a real live circus freak show. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@loves2learn
I think you should go on a freak show where you strip off all your clothes and live as a permanent nudist lady. It would be such an attraction for pervs
@aliali8 There are no doubt many reasons why you are struggling with this but chief amoung them is that you dont care about context and you are required to.
It is because of your refusal to acknowledge context that you are incapable of grasping this situation.
A breast in a playboy magazine and breast feeding a child are not synonymous.
I have already explained to you what pornography means in reality, you own private definitions are not relevant when you are outside of your own mind.
@aliali8 I’m actually quite modest when I feed my babies. I believe you evaded my question. Are the 3 pics of me nourishing my children pornography in your eyes? 🤔
@loves2learnOve
Overwhelming majority of new moms do not breastfeed in public. Its uncommon to see a woman breastfeeding in public. Because most women know better than to do that. Sure, some crazies are comfortable revealing their breast in front of the entire world. But its not the majority.
@guffruss for the record I know you are quite sane and actually one of the nicest people on here. :)
@aliali8 maybe on your planet. Common on mine
@loves2learn
[@guffruss for the record I know you are quite sane and actually one of the nicest people on here. ]
Yea, im sure he's the same nice guy who shows his son , pictures of naked women from his own playboy magazines.
@aliali8 @guffrus never said he shows porn to his children. In fact he made the very sane point that breastfeeding and pornography are completely different due to context.
@loves2learn
thats not what he said, but thats what he meant.
@aliali8, my dear it is not OK to put words in other peoples mouths. It is clear to me that you are in fact the most ignorant person on G@G congrats, as that is really hard to do. Because you have proven such ignorance, insulted my parenting and dug your heels in when proven wrong, I am now certain I don’t ever want to interact with you again. Therefore I am blocking you. Bye Felicia.
@aliali8 The reason you are attacking me is because you are incapble of arguing your point, which is understandable really because your arguments have been destroyed and all that is left is your hatred.
You called me a liar back along though, lets talk about that. I would be very pleased if you cared even a little bit about truth but that isn't what is important to you.
Its pretty obvious listening to you speak that you are quite heavily invested into religious dogma.
There is no evidence to support the claim that there are any Gods and everything that we do know strongly suggests that there isn't.
You deliberately misuse words and twist their meaning to suit your intolerant and abusive agendas.
Seems to me that you are the servant of darkness here.
I am perfectly comfortable with my solid and defensible moral foundation built from a basis of equality and freedom and I wish you could experience it too.
Your belief system betrays and shames you and puts you inconflict with others as you impotently try to unjustly impose your will on them.
@aliali8 Quote:
thats not what he said, but thats what he meant.
Do not presume to speak for me, I am more than capable of speaking for myself.
What you are saying is literally criminal by the way. It is not acceptable to write lies about people.
@guffrus nailed it. Mic drop.
@loves2learn @guffrus
how do you do something as immoral as exposing innocent children to sexually explicit content? yet make excuses on how its ok to do such a thing under the guise of "different context".
Do you have a conscience at all? or is it only your child that matters while other kids don't matter at all to you?
@Guffrus @loves2learn
yea great way to win an argument that you know you clearly couldn't win. Blocking me makes you feel like you won the argument.
@Arabella_Rose Now you fucking listen to me you fucking ignorant sack of shit.
I have never done that nor taken up a position in defence of that.
You want to check your facts before you start throwing around accusations.
Your next words need to be a very sheepish appology and the next act after that should be to fuck off out of my face.
Fucking degenerate.
@Guffrus
you're better off admitting that exposing a sexually explicit body part in front of underage kids is wrong rather than to argue with me that kids should be exposed to naked topless exposed women. At least this way , you can prove that you have some sort of morals or a conscience.
@loves2learn
when the simple act of turning around to breastfeed your child is as hard you jumping off a cliff, you know you're inconsiderate. how hard is it to simply turn around? am i asking you for million dollars? am i asking you to jump off a cliff? am i asking you to kill your baby? what is the huge fuss?
It’s good those issues were resolved and you are so brave for your tireless dedication to that baby and your child is adorable!
Thank you so much! I do not regret it one bit. Worth it.
I've never understood the objection, except for the few mothers who have absolutely zero decorum. This is the most natural and normal thing, so the fact that some people are so offended tells us how screwed up some people's thinking really is.
I agree completely and intend to do the same when the time comes. Look, don't look, I don't care, feeding my baby will my only concern.
Exactly. Thanks for sharing. :)
Didn’t read through that essay
Yes, breastfeeding can be important
I don’t judge
😂😂😂😂😂😂 ok. Thanks for the support
I sincerely hope that the fact that one of your breastfeeding posts was taken down was not that some moderator or admin didn't like the content.
I hope so too. They were not duplicates. Both were well thought out.
Like most Mom's you wanted only the BEST for you baby, you tried like hell and is all anyone can do... You did not fail, you did the right things... BRAVO... sometimes some women have more problems than others... God Bless
Thank you so much! I appreciate the support!
Stay Strong...
People need to pull their heads out of their own arse. Its a boob or nipple everyone has one. Mothers should not be ashamed about their bodies or feeding their child.
Precisely. Thank you. ❤️
Well, this is the forum for hate. So you might be in the wrong place looking for support.
I am in no position to judge you. I don't understand the whole feminism thing. Do you.
Good luck to you, your husband and your son.
You described it very well honey and right on spot i would say
I hope it helps people changing their opinion
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My second child was 6 weeks early and I fed her my milk with a syringe for the first two weeks until she finally got to latch on. My oldest took to the breast right away. All of my friends, mom, dad, sis and husband have seen me nurse and have NEVER said it was rude. I am totally for a woman breastfeeding whether they try to hide it or not. I am not ashamed to flop a boob out and let her go at it. She does it 5 times a day at the moment.
I don't think 99% of people hate on this issue at all. Where the issue stems from is the small fraction of people who'll whip their breast out in public without making any effort to conceal themselves.
Just because breast feeding is a completely natural thing doesn't mean it can't be done politely.
The baby’s head covers the boob anyway.
Not always. Point stands.
Does for me
Yes, for you. Many mothers aren't you, however.
I'll never understand why this is an issue. It's a tit, she's not pegging Simon on the bus.
😂😂😂😂😂 Simon.
Thank you for your support.
Miss agape your right it's a tit but it's also a private part and shouldn't be visible to everyone...
You can't show your private parts to everyone just because you want to breastfeed your baby...
You can do it if you have to but making sure that your covered, sometimes if the husband is present he will make sure to cover his wife so she breastfeeds her baby...
It's not like that, just saying it's only a tit, it's only a butt, it's only a pus*y, there are morals, values and disciplines in this life...
@TonyMetal___86 actually I can. I am protected under the law.
What law miss loves2learn? Also what does the law says?
@TonyMetal___86
All fifty states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands have laws that specifically allow women to breastfeed in any public or private location. Thirty-one states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands exempt breastfeeding from public indecency laws.
www.ncsl.org/.../breastfeeding-state-laws.aspx
Breastfeed in public without covering your boobs?
@TonyMetal___86 correct. Do you see me wearing a cover in any of my 3 photos?
It's only 1 photo and i actually didn't focus on it, i don't care about what the rules or laws says, my future wife won't be allowed to do such a thing in public at all...
If someday the law allowed people to walk naked in public, than would it be something good? NOPE it sure isen't...
The society is corrupted and these people who are making these new laws are a bunch of trash and that's why the world is becoming like that today!
It's not something to be proud off showing boobs in public under the name of breastfeeding because these are private parts and they will always be, people shouldn't wait for a bunch of laws to tell them what they can and can't do!
We must set our own boundaries and red lines...
Anyways your free to do whatever you want but i'm against these laws and i have my own views and ideology...
Thanks for the convo...
@TonyMetal___86 actually it is 3. Feel free to check out the other 2 mytakes in the series. With all due respect the way you described what you would “not let your future wife” do in terms of nourishing your child sounds very controlling.
It is sad our society as sexualized mammary glands to the point it makes it difficult for mothers to feed their children.
I do not intend to attack you in any way and I know you mean well as I said on another post this morning.
I think we are having a good discussion. :)
Miss loves2learn i'm a cave man from the stone ages and i'm happy about it 😄
Not letting my future wife doing this ain't actuslly controlling, it's doing the right thing and the man is the head of the house that's my believe but i'll love my wife the way i love myself and will take care of her, feed her and be always there for her, i'll treat her the way i treat myself if not better..
I think you do know that my future wife will be a housewife cause i'll never marry a girk who doesn't adores becoming a housewife 😊
I surely will never attack you because we might differ on this subject but your still an awesome mother with a white innocent heart, i just want you to be safe and happy and you deserve all the good things coming to you, i hope that when your babies grow older, they must realize that they have a precious priceless mother whom they should love forever and never abondon her...
Personally i'll never stop my future wife from feeding our baby but i'll try as much as possible to be in a private place but if i was forced for some reason and found no way than i'll surely let her breastfeed our baby in public but i'll make sure to cover them and let no one see a thing, as a man i should provide the safety environment for breastfeeding in a way that no one can see my wife's boobs but at the same time she will be able breastfeed our baby 😌
After she finishes she will get a lovely kiss from me and the baby will get a kiss because they both are a part of me and their happiness is my happiness...
Thank you for being nice miss @loves2learn
As a breastfed child of breastfed parents, I appreciate this. I plan on breastfeeding too.
Thank you very much for saying this! ❤️❤️❤️
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This was one of the most touching accounts of breastfeeding I have ever heard of, then you put that picture at the end. Very nice.
Thank you. :)
My wife wanted to breastfeed and she did. Oh guess what else my wife did 80 percent of the time she used cloth diapers for like 14 months.
That’s great! I know cloth diapering is very important to some parents. Good for her.
It's odd that caring for ones own child is so controversial
It is odd. But it is reality. It has been 2 years since I breastfed a child and I am still recovering from the hate I received.
Really?
In that city?
Yuuuup. Received hate from my husband, my in-laws, strangers. Treacherous.
Husband?
Was it indignation or jealousy because someone might see a portion of ur boob?
We still talk about it @Andres77 and I still tear up. He doubles down on his stance that it “was not necessary” and that it made things harder for him when he cared for our son 3 days per week for 2 hours while I finished my workday.
Apparently our son asking when mama would be home so he could nurse was not ok. 😔😔😔
Rigid thinking is ok when you're enforcing safety codes in structural design but... wow.
Can you guys just stop talking about it? Niether one is going to cave and it's a sore subject for you.
Yes. I try not to talk about it. Still make me emotional sometimes.
Was posting this about breastfeeding any help? Did you feel you received enough support to be able to say to yourself " fuck what they think. I was right!"?
Yes. It is cathartic for me to write about it :)
It's not about the breastfeeding but it's about the boobs. That's like one of those victim cards pulled like bringing up race, gender, ethnicity or etc. when you're told something not to do. The point is it has nothing to do with that just like nothing to do with breast feeding but people are more like telling you to take precautions because your boobs are exposed. It's not because you're breast feeding. This is exactly why everyone put clothes on. You don't see girls normally walking around with their boobs outside their shirt collar because they are sexual organs and it turn on guys. Even if guys don't do anything, they get the urge but of course you'd just call them creeps for something natural for them. Here's a fact, women gets aroused when they breast feed but no one would consider them freaks for that even if it's natural. So yes it's only natural if guys gets aroused by it as well if you're fine with breast feeding in public, you don't have to complain if anyone looks at it.
feminists act as if people are against feeding babies
I am not a feminist and it does feel as if people are against feeding babies sometimes.
Maybe if you interpret things a little better, it wouldn't feel that way. Why would people be against breastfeeding alone when that's a necessary when it comes to raising a new life? I don't know why you just refuse to think "maybe it's because my boobs are exposed" which is a no brainer.
if people were against breastfeeding they would be against breastfeeding babies AT HOME
It's not even required to always be at home when you nurse your baby. That's why covers exists for like 10$? (But we all know most of the time, it's the husband gonna be paying for it for extras) How oppressed and it's not like you're carrying tons of dumbbell plates with you. I get those excuses saying "it's not safe for the baby or the baby is uncomfortable" BS even if it's proven safe and babies always have the capability to adjust when really those who complains about it are just don't like the responsibility of taking precaution or just lazy. That's one thing you should consider before having a baby.
feminists love to find excuses for exposing their bodies. Everything should be abouit their own bodies.
Even when it comes to abortion they make it a body issue when it is not a body issue. They get abortion becasue they want to end the baby's life.
@Милашка Sorry to break it to you but i'm a pro choice despite being an anti feminist.
But that's out of the topic here.
I know. I don't care. I said they revolve everything around their bodies. They don't care about feeding the baby as much as they care about being free to expose their boobs.
The same applies to their views on aborton
@Милашка Exactly. The hate isn't directed at the act of breastfeeding. On its own, breastfeeding is beautiful, natural, and necessary for baby development. The hate is only directed at these women who are constantly trying to find excuses to expose themselves. Young girls are fighting to expose themselves in school by trying to allow booty shorts and crop tops etc on school property. Adult women are constantly defending their indecency in public.
These kinds of women are obsessed with it.
No mother is trying to expose herself while feeding her baby. That is absurd.
Except for those who doesn't really care and just do it anyways in public without any cover. But if you don't really expose yourself and cover yourself while doing it then you don't get the hate
My baby would not eat under the cover. He tore it off. You don’t get it.
So it seems like you're still ignoring how that is actually just an excuse when just don't like to. I may not be a mom but i was once a breast fed child under a cover but did i care? I couldn't remember anything anyways. You just ignored what i said about the fact that baby is always have the capability to adjust. So what if your baby doesn't want to sleep and keep crying unless you're rocking the baby? Will you keep rocking the baby overnight and not getting a sleep yourself? Really it's common sense and i didn't remember how many times i cried as a baby, I didn't remember when i started shutting up. It's either you train your baby to get used to it or you just hide. That is your responsibility
Also have you even considered even if you are in private, you use the cover anyways to train that baby? You have no excuse doing that if you have the time breastfeeding your child. And again this isn't about it's because you are covering him because he is eating or something but again it above your boobs. don't you get it? What if i say you are not covering him while he is eating but you are just covering your boobs? How is it so hard to just comprehend it like that? Also, you're not a guy so you won't get it. You don't get how a guy would feel if they see your tits. A lot of times guys may be able to control it but it's not easy and to take precaution is to actually hide it from actually guys who don't or just cannot control. So don't tell me you're also gonna leave your car open and then only to complain if a thief gets in and steal something.
Another situation would be would you leave your purse on a table because it annoying to take it with you when you go to the restroom? Because it's always not your fault right? Sure anyone has control over it but you don't know how it feels to be a starving person seeing a purse with a wallet full of cash left unguarded.
Your argument is absurd. Plus he pulled the blanket off because he was hot. @Apple1996 can you believe what this guy is saying? Apparently we should “train” our babies by covering with a blanket at home.
@loves2learn What's the problem with that idea? Humans are adaptable. We adapt to changes all the time. My sister used to put the breastfeeding blanket over my niece at home when my niece was a baby in order for her to get used to it. Eventually the blanket wasn't a problem anymore and was used whenever she was out.
@wraith_cemetary because my child runs hot and he was roasting and uncomfortable.
@Милашка you should go back to your delusional world. All mothers want to do is feed their kid. They are not like some slots out there that flash their tits at everyone. Give me a break
Thank you @Wiredone I completely agree.
@loves2learn You don't have to thank me for that. It got me ticked off. No matter how big the hammer is, you can't fix stupid
@Aiko_E_Lara Whoa.. did your rambling diatribe just accuse those who breastfeed as welcoming potential rape? You are unbelievable. How about less talking and more listening. @loved2learn ignore this person. Great write-up. You’re a damn fine mother.
@loves2learn (sorry typed your handle slightly off)
* Ignore this person. Great write-up. You’re a damn fine mother.
@dustybiker thank you friend! Truly! I am moved by your support. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@dustybiker and why do you keep saying it is about the breastfeeding when i was clearly saying it isn't about the breastfeeding? Oh yes that is another way to miss constru what i said to give yourself an excuse to give a straw man argument and ofcourse despite your argument being a fallacy, of course @love2learn would really like to appeal to that because i see she is just looking for a confirmation bias at this point. You're not giving any counterarguments and what i said still stands
@loves2learn i mean.
Who ever you are, love2learn, sorry for the wrong tag.
@dustybiker oh by the way did i say that it is not ok to breastfeed in public? I'm saying you cannot show your boobs in public. Not you can't breastfeeding in public. There is a big difference You're not even reading anything and there you are already saying i am wrong and you're right and that's it.
Ignoring anything doesn't really makes the logic way. It's ironic when someone who @loves2learn just seek for validations
Not seeking validations @Aiko_E_Lara you are just plain wrong.
There is a reason a breastfeeding mother cannot be charged with indecent exposure. BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL IF THE NIPPLE IS EXPOSED WHILE BREASTFEEDING.
I personally was quite stealthy and am not aware of any times when my nipple was exposed in public. I was also painfully modest for most of my life. I did not want to expose myself, I JUST WANTED TO FEED MY BABIES.
Another strawman argument right there. DID I SAY YOU CAN'T FEED YOUR BABY? This is what i mean when people deliberately misconstrue what anyone else say to give themselves excuses to be offended. No one here is trying to advocate that women should be charged for breast feeding in public but i'm here giving you a proper reason why you get the backlash when you do breastfeed in public. You're calling me "plain wrong" yet you're not even giving any counter arguments to the rest of what i said.
You're still missing the point. While i'm not even saying it should be illegal, I'm still saying it is your responsibility to take precaution. Like the examples i gave, sure it's legal to leave your purse somewhere but it's illegal to steel. Not all the time the laws have to be responsible for your actions.
You sure get some absolute idiots arguing against common sense. There must be a sale on stupid pills somewhere and they found it. Amazed at your calm with all this absurdity.
@Red_Arrow Who you referring to?
@loves2learn Another irony i love to point out. People supports guns so much because not all the time the law helps you so you need a self defense. But when it comes to breastfeeding, you won't bother. I guess you'd rather own a 200$ gun but this thing is just too much Or you can't even just bother using a small handkerchief to censor your boobs. Haiya...
@Aiko_E_Lara your argument is circular and you continue to miss the point. I owner those worthless pieces of fabric. My younger child was too hot/uncomfortable under them to use them.
@Aiko_E_Lara, @Red_Arrow is referring to you taking stupid pills and me patiently trying to educate you with reason.
Oh I just realized something, nice try trying to get Apple1996 involved in this argument when we already did settle for this kind of argument. Also if you're really talking about people who just hates breastfeeding by itself like what Apple1996 is talking about here, then yes there's something wrong with those people. However, there always is nothing wrong for anyone who asks you to cover up unless they're being jerks.
And if you're educated yourself, how come you're so ignorant with those facts i mentioned? So I don't really think he's referring to me. Anyways, i know just simply calling someone a moron without giving any real argument just makes anyone sound more stupid that who they're calling.
I brought @Apple1996 in because she had a baby who ran hot and wouldn’t tolerate the blanket either. You, @Aiko_E_Lara are not a mother and never have nor will breastfeed a child so you really cannot claim to have any stance on the matter. I hope when/if you have kids you come to your senses.
@Aiko_E_Lara you are ignorant and your facts are bogus
sure if it's hot and uncomfortable, look for a smaller with a lighter fabric and it doesn't have to be completely non see through. I've been looking at how soft those fabrics are so you can easily fold it to let air come in. Like what @Wraith_Cemetery said, humans are adaptable specially if they're babies. And if you don't have the patients to train your baby to breastfeed under a cover, then good luck dealing with a spoiled brat.
Also you skipped the part where i said even a small handkerchief can do. So yeah you're all given the option to breast feed in public but i'm not surprised with the backlashes you get if you don't even cover up. That's the trade off. It's either you not care or cover up. It's up to you. Because really those facts doesn't really care about feelings and still stands whether you like it or not.
And ofcourse, talking about circular argument when ironically, you're like "you're wrong because you're an idiot" So what's your point repeating the same fallacy if you don't want me to keep repeating what i said?
I will cover my breast with my baby’s head thankyouverymuch. If you don’t like it, don’t look.
I was not covered in any of my mytake photos. Are they inappropriate?
Ok that's good you're beginning to understand my point of actually covering it. Also that statement tho "If you don’t like it, don’t look." It's not that men don't like it. It's that men likes it but only have been controlling themselves. If one is like "screw it i'll just grop it i don't care", then that's partly your fault. Look i know girls can be gropped even if they're not nursing. But you're increasing the chance when you show it.
Ohhhhh great. The “she deserved to be raped because of what she was wearing argument resurfaces” 🙄
Where did I say she deserves to be raped? Another straw man argument i see? Because i said it's partly your fault? Geez why do women always jump to that conclusion? Look, if I get stolen because i left my pocket open, I'd blame myself partly but i doesn't mean i deserved to be pick pocketed. Use that mistake as a lesson. But i see you don't like to learn right?
It’s the same flawed logic!
If i have to sound like you, i can just say you're showing your boobs so that guys go to jail because they deserve it. Now realize how you sound?
That doesn’t sound like me lol. You are comparing apples to oranges
Then I can say saying you deserve to be raped doesn't sound like me. Simple. Easier said
Flawed logic will never make sense no matter how you spin it
Also comparing people hating on breastfeeding and people telling you to take precaution is like comparing apples and oranges.
Then i can just say you never made sense. You had no counter argument to begin with anyways.
Fair enough. They are different arguments but both suck
Then just the wallet example i game. They both suck but you know how to make it not suck? Cover it
I am saying both arguments suck. And no, I won’t make my baby uncomfortable because some perv might grope me and no I did not ask to be groped by feeding my baby. That is absurd. Just no.
Then it's up you. Don't complain if you get groped. I'm just saying. After all, what i'm doing is just giving you the perspective of people telling you to cover it.
It's Not About The Breastfeeding. It's About Your Boobs Being Exposed. ↗ I'll leave this here.
I can and will complain if I get groped. Feeding my kid is not asking to be groped. So fucking what if mammary glands are exposed doing the thing they were literally designed for? Howwwww have we as a society gotten so far away from nature that we worry more about mammary gland exposure than the comfort of feeding infants?
@Aiko_E_Lara I asked you if my 3 uncovered mytake breastfeeding photos were inappropriate. So, are they?
Sure you can because it's a right. But you don't expect anyone to stop the gropper right way. Just like exposing my wallet, i didn't ask for them to steel it. "Howwwww have we as a society gotten so far away from nature that we worry more about mammary gland exposure than the comfort of feeding infants?" Yeah you wanna talk about how natural it is to breast feed yet you failed to realized that women had always been hiding just like other mammals when they do. If we're that far from nature, then we wouldn't really be biological creatures by now who have no hormones to feel aroused anymore. If you're far from nature, you wouldn't be breastfeeding. But how come that's still the case? It's because we're still humans.
The 3 breast feeding picture you gave maybe inappropriate if it's in a random post nothing to do with breastfeeding. I personally don't care about your picture but of all the people seeing it, i doubt there's exactly none of them jerking of to it in secret.
Mammals do not hide to feed their young. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And someone my be secretly jerking off to my profile pic. Or yours. Not our problem lol.
I can just say mammals do hide their young because it leaves them vulnerable. And if you don't see jerking off about your tits is a problem then good for you. I guess it shouldn't also be a problem if anyone stares at your boobs. I mean yeah you can complain about that but you're also gonna have to expect anyone saying "why don't you cover"?
They don’t hide them for the purpose of hiding the mammary glands. They hide them from predators so they don’t get eaten.
I mean i'm talking about the time when we now evolved to wear clothes and society stopped rape from being normalized.
@Red_Arrow I really have to agree with you. My blood would be boiling and I'd be a raging lunatic but loves2learn seems very calm
@Wiredone thank you. I pride myself on my ability to maintain my composure (most of the time lol).
@Red_Arrow yeah she seems really calm while name calling and stuff and not even giving any real counter arguments. Maybe you would be raging because i you know logic always get in people's nerves
are you comfortable with strangers seeing your boobs?
I’m more worried about feeding my kid than a nip slip
While breasts may have evolved to be secondary sexual characteristics in humans we shouldn't let that blind us to the fact that their primary purpose is to feed their young.
Indeed. They are mammary glands after all.