but what about everyone else who kill people, rape women...there are football players who do that but everyone forgives/forgets
but when its vick no1 forgives like WTF!
As an eagles fan I was pissed when they signed him last year. Now I love him. I'm convinced he's a changed man. They had an article in the paper the other week about how in his locker he has an article about himself pinned up that says, "Is it OK to cheer?" He knows what he did was wrong and it sounds like he accepts that some people will never forgive him. All that matters is that his team mates have no problem and Eagles fans, for the most part, accept way more than they did a year ago. It doesn't matter what everyone else thinks, he's not on their team and he's not their problem. The best thing you can do to shut people up is to just do your thing.
Apparently Vick does some sort of community service work almost everyday after practice. His team mates respect him, Andy Reid respects him, and personally I kinda get a kick out of having an ex-con for a quarterback and watching him be better than everyone else. So let everyone else hate on him. He had a troubled past, it's not like he grew up rich in the suburbs. It's not like he hates animals or made a conscious effort to hurt animals, he was just continuing to do what he knew. But if people don't like Vick as far as I'm concerned they can go f*ck themselves...watch your beagle, Vick's an Eagle!
yee! but I disagree when he got signed...i was rooting 4 it I knew he would start some1 with that much talent. but every1 deserves a second chance...
I get the aspect of it's worse to kill and rape and blah, blah, blah. A crime is a crime and in the society Vick is from animal cruelty is a big one. We americans feel for our animals, mainly because most consider them a part of their family (ever seen one of those bimbo socialites carrying their nugget puppies in their 3,000 dollar purses) and even though it is true, he served his time, people aren't just going to forget, but slowly they'll get over it.
We give our serial sportsmen more praises then lashings, but when they f*** up, the public notices. Vick f***ed up and just because you're raised around something doesn't give you the excuse to do it, especially when it's illegal.
So yeah some might still hate on Vick, like they did/do Koby, but people move on, for the sake of the sport, for the sake of a win.
"it's illegal"
smoking weed is illegal but every1 still does it...
prostition is illegal but people still do it
Well I haven't heard of this guy specifically, probably because I live in England and not care in the slighest about sports, but I find that although killing and raping humans is arguably worse, animal cruelty tends to make me angrier for some reason. Maybe it's because I view animals as more defenceless although that isn't true. I don't know, but it's not a rational thing, it's just how people tend to feel and react.
Our footballers are cooler. They have gay orgies in holiday inns and snort coke off the t*ts of hookers. Yours rape and kill people, LOL.
Nah, I dunno. Pitbull fighting isn't cool but neithers an awful lot. People tend to just pick out a guy to hate on, quite often, and everyone jumps on the band wagon. Are you a fan of this guy?
LOL. In england, though.
f*** yeah this is my hero...the person I look up too
Nice.
I don't even see pit bull fighting as animal cruelty, y'know. I mean, some of it is. Like there was a guy who used to steal dogs from peoples houses to train 'em to fight. But y'know, in the right places, they use regulation war dogs and sh*t. Pit bulls are born for that sh*t, they love it. Hahaha. Its like **** fighting. Lej!
i personally don't give a f*** about animal cruelty but that's just me :p
Hahaha. I think its morally wrong, but a necessary evil, much like child cruelty.
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I have two pitbulls and I don't get or understand why he would do the things he did to those dogs, but I don't hold that against him. He's an amazing football player and has had an amazing season so far and for people to say that he doesn't deserve to get MVP just because of his past (which he payed his time for) is ridiculous! Who else in the league has played the type of game Vick has? Not Brady or Manning. He's kinda been in the same situation as Cam Newton, and he just won Heisman so I think Vick will win MVP.
isn't there something you grew up with, that other people introduced to you at a young age that other people might find wrong? for example my friends dad blazes like everyday and my friend smoked when he was like 9 because his dad made it seem okay but other people think he's a bad person. and vick didn't deserve to go to prison, you do know he's bankrupt at the moment right? and that his familey (3-4 kids are suffering) he only gets like 5 mill this year and he owes 20mill
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Yeah, I get that, and once again I don't judge him off of it, he paid his dues and it's behind him now. And like you said before, people overlook the sexual assault/rape stuff that goes on in sports, like Roethlisberger..it seems no one remembers the stuff he did. And yeah I know that :| Sucks for the guy.
im hoping he will win the SB
Cause he's an asshole who abuses animals. That's a great philosophy, by the way: basically "yeah, he did something bad, but people murder and rape other people too! so it doesn't matter."
Actually, football players/celebrities in general get away with a LOT of sh*t, and I DON'T forgive/forget. I think they should actually face consequences.
He went to jail, that's a consequence. He did his time now get over it.
If we faced the consequences there'd be no reason to be famous.
damn bruh ... now because of all that BS he is in debt...when he was in jail who put food on the table 4 his kids? he's bankrupt and you don't forgive/forget...he faced his consequences (thank you copy and paste didn't know how to spell it) and people still talk sh*t he's literally done everything u'd want out of a changed man...but that's not enough now is it :(
I used to be a hardcore Eagles fan,this year I'm neutral although deep down inside I'm still an Eagles fan,and I'm from Dallas lol
I do agree though.While animal abuse shouldn't be overlooked,people went well out of their way to "hate" him yet not focus on the people who are prostituting children in cambodia,raping children and women in Africa,corrupt "leaders" of countries and Obamanator isn't exactly an example of what focusing on serious issues is.
i know right...people treat him like he's hitler for goodness sakes -.-
and yeah eagles... we beat dallas today ^.^
You're kidding, right? Which players playing now are convicted rapists and murderers? Then you top yourself by saying under Adriana that he didn't deserve to go to jail for that. You don't have to have his back just because you are a Philly fan.
Also, I have been a fan of Vick since he was the QB for VA Tech and I liked the Falcons just because he was drafted by them. I stuck with ATL though instead of following Vick. As someone that has been a fan of him for quite a while now, I saw him in a negative light after that. Eventually, I will forgive and forget but we aren't too far removed from that. I still think he deserved prison time and the bankruptcy you threw out there, that's all his fault. He was once the highest paid player out
there, and on top of that, he admittedly was playing half-assed football. Hopefully, he keeps a good head on his shoulder from here on out and maybe he won't worry about it any more.
i followed vick I was a fan of his since his last year at VA tech
pfft dog fighting isn't that bad...
"Big Ben" was accused of rape or some sh*t like that and no one was up his ass
You're a Philly fan. I doubt you have been a fan of his since then. You sound just as stupid as he is when you say dog fighting isn't that bad. Why is forcing animals to fight each other bad? Why is killing the dogs that under perform not bad? Are you kidding? Get your head out of Vick's ass.
Evange, some people were but the operative word is "convicted." The only person that I can think of that didn't catch a lot of sh*t was Dante Stallworth for killing someone while drinking & driving.
I never said dog fighting wasn't serious
I was talking to the QA on the first part. He said that dog fighting wasn't that bad before your comment.
its not that bad...id kill a dog over a human being any f***in day... I'm just saying where did the compasion go...
It is bad. Don't try to rationalize it because you like Vick. He is a good athlete and as of now is a good player and no one can deny that, but forcing dogs to fight and die IS bad. Don't be stupid. There is only one group that shows evil tendencies and that's humans. I'd be able to kill a human way before I kill a dog or any other animal.
Where is the compassion? What do you mean? Initially, I'd say a lot of people were against him, but not as many are vocal about it now. What are you hearing?
bruh your trippin to say u'd killa human b4 an animal, and wtf do you mean don't raTIONALIZE...DANTE STALLWORTH RAN OVER A MAN WHILE UNDER THE INFLUCENCE whoops hit caps on all that...roethlisburger raped a women holmes raped a women ray lewis killed his wife and what about o.j...forcing dogs to fight is a sport just like humans have boxing or mma...stop making excuses for some stupid ass muts and vick always was a good player he just never applied himself
That's gotta be the most ignorant argument ever. You're an idiot if you think dog fighting is no different than MMA or boxing. Humans have a choice and those dogs don't. Also, the whole point to being a good player is applying yourself, so no he wasn't. I've addressed the other part.
Like I said, don't try to rationalize the situation just because you like him. I'll let you come up with another stupid argument if you want to try. You've come up with several on this page already so no repeating.
your dum ass pussy, how is what I'm saying stupid you haven't even adressed anything I've said retard...and how he wasn't a complete player?!?!? he took his team to the nfc championship with no f***in talent...and he didn't even try now that he's trying he should be winning
SB's Mvp's like nothing...ur just a hater...go on hate lmao your just going to make him more famous
Listen, kid, you're ignorant. There's nothing wrong with that per se, but after a while, it gets a little old with people, you know? If you compare MMA and dog fighting, you deserve to be called out on your ignorance, and that wasn't the only thing stupid that you said.
I did address everything in one form or another in the comments before. If you didn't catch on to it, I could break it down for you. I promise to speak slowly.
Who said I hate Vick? Also, I doubt they make it to the Super Bowl,
but if they do, there's a guy named Tom Brady (maybe you've heard of him?) that will probably rip 'em to shreds.
Finally, he brought ATL to the NFC championships once while he was there and he had a losing or even season every year after that. I didn't say he wasn't good player at times, but if you don't apply yourself, no one will see you as one of the best. You have to prove that you are one of the best consistently and not just from one season, one game, or one play. Anymore?
what about moss bruh...not counting this season
brady will lose in the SB to vick that D can't stop them
asante samuel has so much experience against brady that he'll pick him off once or twice
brady won't get mvp
What about Moss? They showed that they don't even need him. Honestly, I hope the Patriots don't make it to the Super Bowl. They've won enough in the past decade, but they look too good right now. You have to at least admit that. They are playing great and Brady looks even better. They've beaten better defenses than what the Eagles have. If they keep playing like this, they will win the Super Bowl and Brady will be the MVP of the game. I hate the Patriots though, so I hope not.
their winning because their running the ball BJG is running and has like the almost the same yards as L.T so that's a big part and bradies getting td's not yards though so I don't know how their doing it :p...spreading the ball works I guess
Brady is getting touchdowns and yards. The Patriots are 6th in the league in passing yards and 15th in rushing yards. I don't know about you, but I'm glad Moss is gone. You don't have to worry about the deep ball every time he steps on the field for NE anymore. The biggest surprise is the defense though. They've been improving the whole season.
its honestly devin mccourty talk about a good as corner...
they said he couldn't catch he has 6 picks lmao... can't belive all those other DB's went before him he's doing an amazing job and their safeties come around and jarod mayo is leading in tackles, all they need is that D line and they'll have that SB winning D they used to have, but I hate the pats too many bandwagon fans.
That annoys the hell out of me. They'll jump ship to another team if they lose like usual. Patriots and Steelers have to have the most bandwagon fans out there right now. I hope both of them lose to the Ravens or any other AFC team that hasn't been in a while. I've got my fingers crossed.
i think its going to be the pats vs ravens afc champ pats win
and nfc champ is going to be eagles vs falcons
eagles win
then in the SB eagles win thanks to the running skills of vick
if u've seen the pats try to stop a running QB it can't be done just look at the tape from when pat white played them
i agree. I like michael vick. everyone forgave ben roethlisberger but mike is still demonized and hated by people? please! I'd rather live next door to a dog fighter than a serial rapist
i know right
First off I just want to say for every action there is a consequence. You get caught with a certain amount of weed, because it is still illegal, you're punished. Prostitution is illegal and prostitutes are punished.
You may like someone and think it's unfair the way the public treats them, but he committed the crime and has to live with it. Regardless of other crimes that yes, may be more horrific, but are put on the back burner,
Because animal cruelty is just cruel.
DA f***?
dude their are people who kill and rape women...little kids...and ect
and always belive in second chances haven't you ever done something where you were like damn I need a second chance...or thought damn I f***ed up hella bad?
I'm not saying animal cruelty is equivalent to rape and murder. -_- I'm simply saying that a crime is a crime. And there's no reason why a successful football player should feel the need to watch animals slaughter themselves. Many sociopaths start off by torturing animals. So he's sick.
ur crazy...he grewp up around dog fighting so it seemed normal to him
some people grew up around smoking weed and other people think its sick, but that person see's nothing wrong with it because he's used to it...
vick now knows that its wrong but never b4 and besides don't be a hypocrit don't asains eat dogs?
Wow. You're a racist. Not all Asians eat dogs you asshole. But you should eat sh*t.
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