But there's some instances it shouldn't be no matter what, like physical abuse or constant infidelity... Would you stay in a marriage where your wife was abusing you or one of your children? Would you stay with your wife if she cheated on you 5 times or more?
No. But, "for better or worse" generally means, even if they're sick or going through a really rough time or flat broke, etc. abuse and what have you is a damn good reason to leave! I certainly wouldn't put up with it but I'd at LEAST try to get her to seek some kind of help before I completely toss her and our relationship in the garbage!! I was watching a few videos last night about The Cowsills and nearly every one of them said their dad was VERY abusive and their mom SHOULD'VE left him!! Apparently, she never did because she was afraid to! Letting him be their manager was their downfall!! He was one NASTY son of a bitch!! They might still be making records today if it wasn't for him!!
I'm often surprised that people dont live together for a couple years before marrying. I've has so many gfs that I thought I would marry until we moved in together.
Can't take credit for it lol something I heard while watching a show about couples who suspected their partner was cheating where the husband cheated on the wife 5 times and if that wasn't bad enough, it was him accusing her of cheating, put a tracker on her phone, actually demanded her to let him smell her panties to see if she had sex, and it was determined she WASN'T cheating... When the counselor asked why she stayed with him, she said "for better or worse'... To which he said, it should be "for better and for growth"... And I agree with him.. That's not saying people shouldn't be there for better or worse... But people should also be constantly working on growing together as a couple/a united front if you will
Wow, that's a divorce needing situation, it's creepy as hell. He was worried she was cheating but he never thought about how she felt when his own cheating was determined several times
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I think it’s fine. I mean I didn’t have any problem with acknowledging that my marriage was going to have some “and for worse” moments.
Of course... every relationship does but until people learn to grow and change together, they'll change and grow apart...
@Brainsbeforebeauty that is true too. A good marriage takes work!
Shouldn't be changed as marriage is for the good and the bad.
"For better or not or I'll hunt you down!"
No- you want that declaration of loyalty to cover situations where things DON'T get better, too.
I think that it needs to stay exactly how it is and not try to change it
I think it should be " for better or worse". It addresses a relationship being tested in the sense if the person is doing very well. or very sick.
Isn't that covered in under "in sickness and health"
ahh good point lol..
If your finances are taking a bad turn, that would be for worse and is not covered under "in sickness and health".
@Red_Arrow no that would be "for richer or poorer"
Not sure, but marriage would be more responsible to growth both of them
sure... how about... till I cheat on you and find someone else to hook up with.
No, because it means that you vow to stick by that person no matter what.
But there's some instances it shouldn't be no matter what, like physical abuse or constant infidelity... Would you stay in a marriage where your wife was abusing you or one of your children? Would you stay with your wife if she cheated on you 5 times or more?
No. But, "for better or worse" generally means, even if they're sick or going through a really rough time or flat broke, etc. abuse and what have you is a damn good reason to leave! I certainly wouldn't put up with it but I'd at LEAST try to get her to seek some kind of help before I completely toss her and our relationship in the garbage!!
I was watching a few videos last night about The Cowsills and nearly every one of them said their dad was VERY abusive and their mom SHOULD'VE left him!! Apparently, she never did because she was afraid to! Letting him be their manager was their downfall!! He was one NASTY son of a bitch!! They might still be making records today if it wasn't for him!!
Sounds like
No it’s not lol it’s usually in reference to illness or something bad that happens that can’t be reversed
No that's included in the "in sickness and health"
It should be "Until I make more money and find someone hotter"
With that attitude, don't get married
No. Because it's a vow. The whole point is to be committed EVEN in the WORST times!
I know that.. I lived that.. The point is people forget to work on growing and changing together in their marriage..
@Brainsbeforebeauty Okay; but be careful with that. You shouldn't change TOO damn much!
Would it make any difference in the divorce rates? No.
Living together first? That would bring it down.
Hahahahaha no probably not. Fair point
I'm often surprised that people dont live together for a couple years before marrying. I've has so many gfs that I thought I would marry until we moved in together.
@tony_baloney should be a law.
In most cases it’s for worse so u want to change the truth in the vow
No, get more people to work on the growth that should come in a relationship and then maybe there wouldn't be worse, right🤷🏼♀️
There needs to be an escape clause for really bad hairstyles. It would lead to an overall decline in bad hairstyles.
Nope. Things will get bad. You need to be there.
Yea that's a good idea
Can't take credit for it lol something I heard while watching a show about couples who suspected their partner was cheating where the husband cheated on the wife 5 times and if that wasn't bad enough, it was him accusing her of cheating, put a tracker on her phone, actually demanded her to let him smell her panties to see if she had sex, and it was determined she WASN'T cheating... When the counselor asked why she stayed with him, she said "for better or worse'... To which he said, it should be "for better and for growth"... And I agree with him..
That's not saying people shouldn't be there for better or worse... But people should also be constantly working on growing together as a couple/a united front if you will
Wow, that's a divorce needing situation, it's creepy as hell. He was worried she was cheating but he never thought about how she felt when his own cheating was determined several times
@Brains wow...😧
"Until I get bored or find someone better".
That probably was your vow🤣🤣
Most ambiguous, childish, biased and worthless ceremony in the history of mankind.
I like that a lot!
Thanks but can't take credit.. It was something someone else said but I agreed 💯 with it