Honestly I think both but for guys we don't speak so much upon it due to society's standards on things. Like what is viewed as weak or strong. Some of us stay hush or when we talk about it others don't.
I think it would depend on the sex of the individuals- male or female- since expectations might vary when (let's say) a gal dates two different men. She may have different expectations for each.
Yes actually, we don't have such expectations cause usually we're the one who make it exciting, and we know that eventually we gonna get tired and want to be comfortable in our relationship!
I'm sure there are plenty of reasons, all of which amount to their own fault and nobody else's. What ever happened to communication? I thought women were supposed to be masters at that!
Ah wait I see your point it's actually 2m > 2f > m + f, so you can't really draw a conclusion from that alone. It is evident, however, that a lot more preparation and deliberation goes into gay marriages because accidental pregnancies are nonexistant, so there's a good chance that hetero couples would last longer if we ruled out the obligation marriages. I don't know There are lots of factors that go into this, but seeing the same sex couple comparison is a pretty good test case for what to suspect...
I'm not sure if it's all about the gender I personally think it's more so an astrological sign thing or at least it's a big part of it? I don't know the answer but think on that huh.
Women have offspring and they want the best genes to pass down to them, so we're highly selective. Same reason why male animals perform courtship rituals to win the attention of females by dancing, showing off their colourful feathers, fighting, etc. Also, since the female is the one who gets pregnant, we must ensure that the guy is going to stay and care for the baby, so we look at certain qualities like is he caring, family-oriented? Many girls don't have standards, that's why they become baby mommas and the guy runs off to another woman. If you look at dating apps, females get more replies than males so that makes them selective, having to weed out the best. Also women look at status and money, if the guy can make money to provide for the family (breadwinner) and if he has a job like a doctor or laywer (high status), that makes him more desirable. Looks and status usually go together.
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Unfortunately I have terribly high standards, but I'm not sure I have high expectations. Maybe quite the opposite.
Honestly I think both but for guys we don't speak so much upon it due to society's standards on things. Like what is viewed as weak or strong. Some of us stay hush or when we talk about it others don't.
So you're saying men are less likely to voice their concerns, or unhappiness, in relationships?
I'm saying it isn't heard.
I think it’s equal. However, the expectations are completely different. One being more physical and the other emotional.
I think it would depend on the sex of the individuals- male or female- since expectations might vary when (let's say) a gal dates two different men. She may have different expectations for each.
I think women have always high expectations that the relationship is always gonna be as exciting as in the beginning,
Interesting. You feel this is more an expectation of women, not men, eh?
Yes actually, we don't have such expectations cause usually we're the one who make it exciting, and we know that eventually we gonna get tired and want to be comfortable in our relationship!
Men have higher standards in relationships.
Women have higher standards with regards to passion.
Aww what's the matter, pink?
Upset because I curb stomped the idea of the "fuckboy?"
I don’t think she’s upset. She just flat out disagrees with you.
As do the men.
Other men's opinions don't matter because they're not thinking.. as usual.
Both have equally low expectations. How's that for profound?
That's certainly one way to characterize it.
Males have high expectations on an emotional level, but women have high standards on a physical level.
Overall, we have to lower them both...
That really surprises me. Most people would say the opposite, as would I.
I suppose it could be interpreted the opposite way. I see your point 100%.
I don’t think I understand the question. Do you mean which gender has the most expected of them or which one does the most expecting?
Which does the most expecting.
I’d say women for sure.
If I’d have to answer based on my own personal experiences, I’d say females but that’s only my experiences. A general answer wouldn’t be fair.
When it comes to things like dating/sex, it's definitely girls by a long shot.
Most women want taller than them. Most men want slim, with long hair.
None of these should be a requirement.
Easily women. Just take a look at same-sex divorce statistics!
I'm interested. But where/in what country are you referring?
A cursory bit of research finds same sex divorce rates lower than with heteros.
en.wikipedia.org/.../Divorce_of_same-sex_couples
Yes, correct! Gay couples are generally more stable because they are culturally held to much higher scrutiny than straight couples.
Perhaps I was too vague. What I really meant was contrast lesbian divorce rates with that of gay men.
If that’s the case then I wonder if gay men’s open sexual relationships help lower divorce rates because they aren’t as sexually bored or frustrated.
I'm sure there are plenty of reasons, all of which amount to their own fault and nobody else's. What ever happened to communication? I thought women were supposed to be masters at that!
@AmandaYVR Ever heard of "lesbian bed death?"
No never hears of that.
Same sex divorce rates are overall lower than hetero couples, so clearly it is not “women’s own fault.”
It clearly means women are the damper on existing marriages.
If its 2m > m + f > 2f, it follows that m > f in terms of marriage longevity.
Ah wait I see your point it's actually 2m > 2f > m + f, so you can't really draw a conclusion from that alone. It is evident, however, that a lot more preparation and deliberation goes into gay marriages because accidental pregnancies are nonexistant, so there's a good chance that hetero couples would last longer if we ruled out the obligation marriages. I don't know There are lots of factors that go into this, but seeing the same sex couple comparison is a pretty good test case for what to suspect...
I'm not sure if it's all about the gender I personally think it's more so an astrological sign thing or at least it's a big part of it? I don't know the answer but think on that huh.
evolutionary speaking, it definetley makes sense for women to have higher expectations.
I think females but some may just want a good long term s. o
Women for all things like love marriage n stuff, most men think around sex n that stuff I guess..
Can't deny that that no ni
Women obviously, it's in our nature.
For what reasons do you think it's "in our nature"? Any ideas?
Women have offspring and they want the best genes to pass down to them, so we're highly selective. Same reason why male animals perform courtship rituals to win the attention of females by dancing, showing off their colourful feathers, fighting, etc. Also, since the female is the one who gets pregnant, we must ensure that the guy is going to stay and care for the baby, so we look at certain qualities like is he caring, family-oriented? Many girls don't have standards, that's why they become baby mommas and the guy runs off to another woman. If you look at dating apps, females get more replies than males so that makes them selective, having to weed out the best. Also women look at status and money, if the guy can make money to provide for the family (breadwinner) and if he has a job like a doctor or laywer (high status), that makes him more desirable. Looks and status usually go together.
Females win, by a long shot
Yes. Win = lose?
@AmandaYVR Yeah I don't know?
Interesting... So females... 🤔