The way it usually goes is a man uses or marries a girl for sex and gets a Trophy wife and she gets his money in the divorce after a few years. It could be a win-win for one of them. Guess which one will probably end up the loser.
Wait a second, you think men are risking half of all they own, just so they can use their wife for sex? Despite the stereotype (true statistically) that sex stops after marriage?
What exactly do men gain by "using women" in long term relationships?
@CasaNorba You apparently didn't read. I guess they could be called Gold diggers. They marry a rich man - a celeb, sports figure and he gets sex and a knock out wife. What men wouldn't want that? So he uses her for arm candy and sex. Now do you get it?
first of all you can't USE people for sex. sex is a mutual thing that both people who are doing it must come to an agreement before the act. none of these people are losing anything to the other therefore nobody is using anyone. however if you felt used after sex then it was obvious that you were expecting something more than just sex. last time I check only prostitutes have this mentality
second of all sex an important element in a marriage or relationship. it something that all couples do to show love, intimacy and affection. so one again nobody is using anybody.
lastly you pretty much just admitted that it is the woman who uses the man after all. because after all money is expendable and must be earned through hard work. tits, asses and vaginas are the total opposite. so the fact that women uses these to con men into divorce and legally steal all of the man's hard earning clearly shouts that women are the ones who USE us
@CasaNorba Come on, you know a woman is not going to turn down sex when she has a good thing going and not having to work the rest of her life. It doesn't need to be mutual, but necessary to enjoy a certain life style.
no shit, that is only time you women are down to have sex, when you know the sex is gonna come with something that will serve a convenience to you all. if its not to enjoy a certain lifestyle is for free dinner, when is not free dinner is for free favor, attention and the list goes on.
till then I've always had this perception that women have being prostitutes and concubine encrypted in their dna and your mindset pretty much just confirmed it
unlike you women, a man's happiness does not revolve around being in relationships or sticking our dicks into wet holes only.
you gave a good reason on why I should stay away from women. so I think you need to look up the word "misogynist" in the dictionary when you get a chance
@ Newhead. I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. Not all men are like that. I know there are good guys out there, I'm one of them. I don't fit in your description.
Lol how ironic u say our gender is ruining the human race
Look at your comment, do u not see the bitchness? Your gender is ruining the human race... Stuck up snobby Karenâs like yourself ruin the fun of life... canât take a joke... like that guy who made a joke about being called hugh G reaction... and she said itâs harrasmen, yeah and you think weâre ruining human race? Nah, you ridiculous snowflake females are ruining it
I know, but nothing here really happens in real life judging by the strange questions asked in perpetuity. I mean what are the odds of a bunch of different people asking the same questions day after day? If I had those odds I wouldn't play the lottery.
By the way Older. I like most of your answers. You seem to be an intelligent person which leads me to ask. Why, out of all the sites on Earth, are you on this one? This seems to sound like a Harry Potter book - The Castle of Dysfunctional People. And I don't believe you are one of them.
@juliastyles I don't have children and I like working with teens and young adults. When I give some advice that resonates with someone and they take it to heart, I feel like I am leaving bits and pieces of myself to live on when I'm gone. So I actually do get something from this weird corner of the 'net.
@WowwGirl I will not look for it and what I don't see won't hurt me! :) :) :)
Did I address you? No I did not I don't know you I haven't heard of you so don't fool yourself and think I care about your rants or outlier person. Now was nice to meet you and you're a gem miss
It's a fair point... However, money does not equal intimacy.
Sex is a thing shared by two people that feel comfortable with each other, to share in that moment.
While there is such a thing as a male golddigger, they exist.
So just briefly acknowledging the male gold digger for a second.
Part of it is security and comfort but at the end of the day it just sets up the relationship to be unhealthy, for either gender.
I think it's more likely if a girl or guy is the breadwinner that they will have expectations. They will have a higher ego and could get power hungry.
This is why I view both sex and money is healthy to share in a relationship.
Both should work and both should equally decide when they are ready for sex. I think by both working it keeps the balance healthy.
Now to be fair, I think dating and a relationship are totally different, if you are dating, you are getting to know the person, not their financial situation, this is an even greater concern during co vid. Just because they are struggling financially, does not make them any less of a person either
Deception and manipulation is wrong, no matter who does it. If you (this means anyone reading this) are not telling your partner the full truth about how you feel or what you want from them, that's not right.
That aside, if a man decides to play sugar daddy, and a girl decides to play sugar baby, then that's up to them. I don't think it's healthy, but it's not my place to judge - they're both being honest about what they want from the other person - and what they're NOT willing to give. It's at least honest. The man is using the girl for sex, and the girl is using the man for money - and they both know it from the beginning.
It's also fine if people agree to have casual sex. Many women want male attention, and many men want sex from women, and they'll often agree that those things are a reasonable and fair trade, and that's fine too.
What's wrong is when a man pretends he's going to give a girl a relationship and just uses her for sex, or when a woman pretends that all she wants is casual sex, but is secretly trying to get a relationship. In either situation, you've got people being dishonest and it's wrong.
It's also wrong to pretend to have feelings for someone and just use them for sex or money, because that is deception. If you have feelings for someone, and you know the other person doesn't, and you agree to proceed anyway, then it's your own fault if you get used, and you need to take responsibility for your actions. If a guy is opening his wallet, or a girl is opening her legs, trying to convince the other person to get into a relationship with them, they're the ones deceiving themselves, and they need to take responsibility for the choices they're making.
It's O. K too use a a woman for sex, you say? So all this time I've been told to come give her some sugar, I could have said no? Or tried too turn it around to make her think I was having my way 😅😊 with her, and not the other way around, as so often seemed the case? Interesting, very interesting."Take those clothes off woman, and give me some sugar, please?" No! I'm not supposed too be asking, but telling her too strip and submit, since I don't really recall her actually asking, as much as demanding or ordering, me too submit too the boytoy thing. I guess it doesn't really seem like such an ordeal for me too comply, because of that knowing, endearing smile she always gives me when doing so. Oh who cares, as long as she's getting some, and I'm getting some, we're both happy. If you're not happy putting out for your old man, then maybe you need to get a different arrangement, because if he's the only one getting something out of it, then one of you wasn't doing it right As far as money goes, if you are receiving income and not working for it, well, they got a word for that, and I'm not going to sugarcoat it, so I'm just not going to say it at all, but you know what I'm talking about. (The male version is gigolo, or easy Rider. Also references made of prostedudes and man whores in that comedy with Rob Snider.👍DEUCE BIGALOW, MALE GIGALO) In It certainly is not called a trust fund or a T-bill bill, or even an IRA. I don't have a problem being a girl's booty call just because I'm a guy. I don't see why girls should have a problem being one for a guy, but if you don't enjoy it, then don't do it.
Of course you would ask this question wow girl. Smdh.
First off wanting to have sex with somebody is a natural biological impulse. There are women who want to just hook up with certain guys and nothing else to do with them out there too. I know because it happened to me in my 20s and early 30s a few times.
While it left me with a semi empty feeling the next day I didnât find it traumatizing. If women are on birth control and we are in a so called âgender equal societyâ then a woman should be âfreeâ to do what she wants, right? Guys and girls shouldnât call her a âwhore/slutâ. She just a modern woman doing what she wants? No judgement.
Second off you are a real and utter lazy selfish worthless piece of shit if you are just using someone for money for any reason. At least sex is supposed to be a mutually enjoyable experience vs. someone being taken advantage of for money purposes. There is ZERO gain for the victim in that scenario.
Just seeing women trying to justify this insidious behavior in an era of âequal rightsâ is beyond pathetic. You canât have your cake and eat it too and you wonder why there is so much misogyny out there.
This is also one of the reasons I favor legalizing prostitution in the USA. I have a 100 times more respect for a hooker than some sociopathic piece of shit freeloader/gold digger. At least these women are honest and the transaction is clear and transparent.
I don't understand why you even asked the question in the first place, especially cause you provided the answer right after the question.
In your question you're assuming that it's alright and accepted for a man to use a woman for sex, but not alright and accepted for a women to use a man for money. But then you state that both are equally bad.
The question is skewed in favor of the woman and makes the man look bad, aka it's alright that men does bad stuff but not alright for women to do so.
So if you actually believe that both are equally bad, how did the question even come to mind in the first place?
To me it sounds like you actually believe that it's alright for men to do bad shit and not alright for women, and you just wanted to throw that out there, but you don't want the backlash of actually having that opinion.
In my personal opinion I do believe both are equally bad, but thats also why I don't understand why you even asked the question like you did.
Intersting term "use" a woman for sex. Because last I checked sec was mutually enjoyable and women are commonly known to be hornier than men which makes sex a must for them even more than men.
Money on the other hand there is no excuse for it. However the term "use" is again not completely defined since in normal cases people spend money of their own volition. So if a woman can talk a man into buying her things is she really using him? I know no one can talk me into that and so I have no problem
So yeah neither is ok but both are subjective and from a certain point of view are not such big crimes
Here I am. I wanted a soulmate. Scary women want to use me for sex, and desperate gold diggers want money that doesn't exist. All I want, is to find a better job, get my own place again , and be able to craft in peace. And lick the wounds of the pain of loss from the loved ones ripped away from me by politics, disease, or their own suicidally stupid choices. A property I can defend. So be it burglars, thugs with badges, family, delusional admirers, etc., I can finally secure myself against my belongings being constantly commandeered.
I have several older male friends that are in a relationship with younger women. He spends a lot of money on her and she gives him great sex.
There are a lot of "self-made" wealthy men. They sacrificed their lives going to college and working 60+ hours a week. These women just walk into money without working for it. Of course, you could say she is having sex with a man who she doesn't want to and that's work! Or you could say she has to spend money (his money) on her beauty and fitness.
Both are wrong and I don't like either. Having said that, money generally is earned by ideas, action, effort and most importantly time. Time is the most valuable and jd something you don't get back. Nevermind any other people involved in the matter whether they gave money to a person to use, etc.
As for a woman, it's wrong to use them as well. It's like them giving their body/selves in the process. Absorption of DNA, personality/physical changes of the man involved, etc.
Both parties will not be happy being used in this case.
Both are not nice and each have their own consequences.
You know thereâs a saying that goes â all is fair in love and warâ see men use women for sex, but women use men for sex just as much, and because thatâs a contradictory statement itâs completely even. however just as much as there is that saying thereâs another saying âmoney makeith the world go roundâ. See you when you mess with somebodyâs money youâre messing with their livelihood all the time that they invested into building up their funds into building up what they can potentially determine to be a better life. When you play with somebodyâs money youâre not playing with their heart youâre playing with their life so when they come at you like youâve threatened their life and livelihood theyâre justified.
One last saying to leave you off on â Love me drive you to want to kill however money will drive you to want to murderâ be careful wear your hands play one can often have more regrettable outcomes than intended.
I totally agree with you. I am not going to lie. I hit a low point in my career. And had no place to go. So I, "dated" this lady. And it was wrong. Because I wasn't attracted to her. At first we would have sex all the time. Then her body oder made my libido die. That last for like 4 month's. She nagged me about everything. From my female friends. To how I, was different when I was at work. To me not wanting to come to her spot after work sometime. It was really bad. One of my worse relationships. She told me it was all about sex for her. And I, told her it was because I, needed a place to live. Lol. So, yeah it's bad to use anyone for anything.
"Use for sex" is not really common any more. These days when people have sex its typically for enjoyment of both parties.
In the past when girls would keep their legs closed to a much bigger extent, often having premarital sex came with the idea you were going to get married. And so a man who took a girls virginity and then dumped her after awhile just used her for sex and it was really bad for the girl because it made it that much harder to get married to a great man. This is hardly applicable these days. At least when dating no girls ever said to me "if we have sex do you promise to marry me?" Lmao.
Being used for money was bad then and its still bad now. And for y'all asking why its bad or how is it bad if he lets her, typically this is when a girl is lying to him saying she loves him to get money gifts etc when she really doesn't like him. Lying = bad and in some cases it can actually be considered illegal fraud when in the extreme.
I agree with your statement 100% A girl should NOT be used for sex only and the man should not be used for hia money or anything else...
If a man wants only sex than he should be honest about it and tell the girl, if she accepts than so be it and if she doesn't than he can search for another girl...
A man shouldn't make a girl lives in a dream where she thinks that he loves her and wants a future with her than just dump her after sex...
If i was a man who writes laws, these guys will live in a burning hell in my territories...
Both are okay, as long as they're not done by lies. I've told girls that I was mostly looking for sex. There are girls who make it clear they want a man who can take care of them financially. A girl I knew from college wanted that and found her man senior year. He was older and willing to take care of her as long as he could get what he wanted in return.
You know if the woman is wealthier then the man takes half of the womanâs wealth in a divorce settlement? I personally wouldnât take anything if I got a divorce. Whatâs mine will be mine and whatâs his will be his. As long as weâre together then whatever is ours is ours but after our release is over why would I want anything of his?
Last I checked both are heavily frowned upon, especially by members of the opposite sex. So if you are trying to argue a sense of hypocrisy than I would say both sides are guilty as women have no problem using men and men have no problem using women. There is bias and hypocrisy from both parties. However saying that one is accepted as ok when the other isn't is simply false. This is also implying that women don't use men for sex either when I know of plenty of women who are only interested in a fling.
When a woman is used for sex then there was already money involved. I don't believe that people who are in a relationship can use each other for sex. If you are my girlfriend, when do you feel used for sex when we do it? When do i feel used when you ask me to give you money or buy you something? I find it very difficult when someone complains that you damp me after sleeping with me. There is nothing like only a man sleeps with a woman or only a woman sleeps with a man when you're in a relationship. There is only sleeping with each other. If i use force then that's a different story (rape).
In the end everyone manipulates each other in one way or another, either sex, money, pregnancy, marriage, flirting, leading people on, guilt, fear, paranoia.
People will use each other for their own needs. Women will marry a man for security and to be looked after, men will try many things to get sex, women will use their feminine and sexual charm to make guys do stuff for them, some women will try and get pregnant or fake a pregnancy to keep a man. Women will pretend to like men or old men for their money if they are rich.
Manipulation can be powered by positive and negative. Its not right but that the way people are when they have a goal to get what they want.
First of all guys don't use women for sex. Consenting human adults have sex. The act of sex needs no more reason than to just have sex. Because it feels great. The question is comparing apples to oranges. The act of sex is readily freely available. Money doesn't just grow on trees.
Men don't "use" women for sex. Hell, I wouldn't even have a partner that doesn't want sex. It's a biological desire. Being a gold digger is using someone for their money and there is no love behind it. So if anything, it's just women that use men. Especially nowadays, men can't even be dominant with women. Women have all the power.
I've seen a female user on here also complain about guys cheating, saying 'Why do guys enter relationships with women, if they're going to cheat', but at the same time, says there's nothing wrong with women using men for money.
All three at dickhead moves and if one is justified, then I don't see why the others should be.
Itâs not Otay in all reality the problem is simply that when you involve men in any of these issues where there is double standards the biggest factor is that men donât usually hold much of a care for the look it gives them. So itâs that whole aspect of what you give a reaction to is how you will be addressed.
Sex is a two-way street that both parties benefit from. Plus, no one is being forced to say yes.
Anyone who uses another person for their money (woman using man, man using woman, man using man or woman using woman) is likely a bum with no real work experience who is only looking for an easy way out of not having to earn their own keep. And no, "gold digger" does not apply only to females. Males can be gold diggers too.
Firstly sex is a mutually beneficial biological activity that both sexes enjoy and partake in. Money, on the other hand, requires someone to give up time, energy, and resources to secure such. So for a woman to use and/or steal a man's money does not equal two people engaging in a physical activity that benefits both.
first of all you can't USE people for sex. sex is a mutual thing and both parties have to come to an agreement before the act. so if you felt used after sex then you were obviously expecting something more out of the act and only PROSTITUTES have sex and expect things in return.
till then your vagina is not expendable and money not only is but requires lots of work and effort to get it, therefore you can never compare the two scenarios you just brought up
I agree that it's the same double standard that applies ti many things masc.;fem. but I'm not sure it's wrong. I don. t believe I've ever manipulated anyone into having sex though I admit to seducing many. Since I lost my virginity age 13, I've made sure every girl or woman I was with was the recipient as much as the giver of pleasure. Maybe the word manipulative is okay but iy comes with negative, almost evil, connotations. I'm fairly certain that they weren't screams of horror I was hearing
You mean prostitution? It is ok where it is legal. Where it is not it is usually because drugs get involved, someone's life ruined, and then that guy ends up a serial killer of drugged up prostitutes. Men are a whole lot less interested in sex than women - you can try to be a freeloader using men for sex and charging for it - you'll end up in trash after 32.
I donât think she is talking about prostitution. I think she is talking about the worst of the worst: meal tickets, gold diggers and freeloaders. I think she is has been guilty of doing this to guys and is trying to find some rationalization to make her feel better. That is she took advantage of some innocent guy for money but itâs âokayâ because some other guy took advantage of for sex.
If it's an exchange, eg husband providing for a wife in return for sex, I don't see any problem, both are adults,,, It's wrong here, if the husband neglects his wife, and still expects sex, or the wife expects the comforts and money provided but withholds sex,,,
True, but money has long term consequences and, with sex, at least there was some sort of attraction. With money, you are literally worth just the money, you are worthless as an individual. Don't get me wrong, I find both practices to be scummy, dishonest, manipulative and I hate both of them.
@Nazgol it's true that you need to understand what a man wants and to provide but you also have the right to ask for anything you want from your man because you will be his love and he is your everything in this life...
There are not walls between a husband and his wife, they can do whatever they want with each other...
I cannot be with a girl who ain't comfortable with me the way i'm comfortable with her, she makes me happy then i'll make her happy too...
She takes care of me and loves me from all her heart snd willing to do anything for me, then she will be appreciated and admired and i'll take good care of her, love only her and be faithfull to her, also provide for her...
You are making excuses for having sex with strangers. You hand is a lot friendlier and it knows what you like and it never has a headache. https://youtu.be/m_wP9KFUw6U
Sex is ok if both are willing to and making an agreement to do it and itâs not rape... if he leaves you after the sex... he is not obliged to make a commitment to stay with you especially if he didnât say he would, you only have yourself to blame for making the choice to have sex with him, you didnât have to
Taking money is stealing and stealing is bad
So one is ok and acceptable, the other is bad Gold diggers are thieves
By the way a man never uses a woman for sex, unless you mean rape... to a rape a girl is using her for sex... but if a guy is consensual having sex with a girl... itâs not using her, u know why? Cos sheâs also using him for sex... theyâre both using each otherâs bodies for an orgasm... so unless itâs rape... the girl is never being used for sex... itâs her fault if the guy leaves and doesnât stay in a relationship with her... he doesnât have to... thereâs no obligation rules that says u have to stay with a woman after sex
It's not OK to do either one. Men that use women are predatory ass holes that deserve to be socially shamed. Women that use men for money are whores and deserve to be socially shamed as well.
I think there is a great deal of selfishness with men and women who engage in that behavior. So I only think itâs normal for them to only think of how otherâs actions effect them and not how they effect others. It really is a sad thing.
I don't know bout that cause I prefer to love and fuck who I love and want than fuck a dude cause he got the bag not every woman was build to be a gold digger... Some men get with women for their bag too it ain't only women that do it like hello lol lmao some of ya nikkas look for a woman with section eight and food stamp just to have it a little easier I have heard so many stories lmao ya the real champ lol
Its not ok but its to be expected, women use men that aren't attractive for money and men use women who aren't a good person for sex. If more women had money and were also less attractive on avg then the role would flip. Why? Because its a dynamic, a pleasure dynamic.
I think it's okay and it's been like that for millions of years. Women desired men for security and power and status. Men desired women for sexual pleasures.
There is nothing wrong with either. There is wrong with being naive and being take advantage of.
Sex and money is different unless you are a person have sex for money. If ur boyfriend is complaining about u using his money than he dont love u because in relationship money should be able to use by both part but smartly. If he just want sex but he dont care about ur needed then fuck him and don't give that pussy to him.
Neither are. Did âsomeoneâ influence that on you? Your mind and spirit fall back with the Navenya, find the path that leads to the Door of Improvement. Itâs always open, thereâs no lock or key. Through this path, youâll learn the truth of the New and Old Ways and taka a hep life
1. Because she consented to it. Its her own fault she let's emotions take over. If he lied to her and said he loves her etc then I agree it's wrong. 2. I assume by using someone for money, you mean lying to them. That's manipulation and wrong.
I married someone whom I had loved for a while. She hid everything from me and many others. Sex was next to nothing, but she demanded to be in control of everything. She ended up cheating, spending all monies and stealing/destroying most everything she could. Tried to ruin me by filing fake police reports. So not all men are as some people claim.
That's not okay at all. Even though there are stereotypes that fortify players out there, it's not morally correct. And for women to only take the value around a man's heart and abandon the heart completely is also immoral.
It's not ok for men to use a woman for sex. No one ever said that, their are women out there who are willing to participate so now it seems "culturally acceptable" it's not, it never was.
Because both genders dont want to admit they are using each other for said reason, and those that do admit it get slander for it 🤷🏿ââď¸ SOCIETY what a great concept, id like a refund
Who say is ok. Is not ok. And we man don't accept that. We buy girl if we really have money and to control them but a girl who ask for stuffs and fool a guy that she love him is same thing
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