It depends on the man.
The kind of man that most women are attracted to and chase are mostly NOT the men who will ever give them the things they say they value the most. Most women are chasing the top 10% of men - the kind all their friends want and the kind who make their friends jealous - but those men have exactly zero reason to commit to her or really stand by her, because those men have an endless amount of options. That means it's MUCH easier for such a man to simply dump that woman as soon as she becomes inconvenient in any way than it is to deal with her - and there's a line of other women waiting to take her place. I'm not defending these men morally - I don't agree with treating people that way - but it is the women chasing these men that enable those men to behave the way they do.
The kind of men that would DO the things women want: the men who would protect her, defend her, and not hurt her - are largely invisible to most women. They're not the best-looking guys or the wealthiest guys or the most popular guys, so women don't find them exciting or attractive - and it is WOMEN who are prioritizing excitement and attraction over morals and values and commitment, because they're never going to get those things from the kinds of men that most of them are chasing.
This has been, and continues to teach "normal" men not to commit to women either. Every man has a friend who has been destroyed by a woman who decided she was bored or "not happy" with her life and decided that it must be her man's fault, and so she left him, and often used the courts to financially rape him on the way out. Tons of men are barely allowed to see their own children, and have the mothers turn those children away from him. Men know that women file for divorce 78% of the time (and 90% of the time if she's a college graduate), and get custody of children 83% of the time.
A recent poll showed that 1/3 of women admitted to accepting dates from men they have no interest in just to get free meals and entertainment.
It's hard for most men to have much sympathy for women in this respect. WOMEN are the ones who choose who they date, and women will NEVER take another man's advice if he cautions her against some guy. You need to take accountability for your own choices, just like men do.
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Can we mans still trust womans?
Why do womans love hurting mans who have sacrifice a lot for the relationship, giving all he has just to be with that woman he loves so much?
Why do womans end up hurting such mans, why?
Same question for you/womans as well.
Don't you talk like ther is a man majority who do this.
I'm in the exactly oposide situation, wher girls had hurt me and i had olso friends who had been destroyed by womans.
My best friend get in to the hospital for crazy people for the reson and the way a girl brake up whit him and he just simply accept it (the brake up).
A woman back stab me one time, other wanted me to do something i didn't want and hurt me for "revange" because i refuse that thisng
Ther are mans who lose hous, life economys, cars, own healt, theyr own childrens because of womans.
I didn't hear so much storys about womans going crazy or losing themself because of mans, comparing whit storys of mans losing themself because of womans.
I may be a woman and I wish I could answer this question but I know your just searching for a guy to be honest about why he would hurt someone he says he loves or likes.
All I can tell you is I understand your feelings and I'm sure many guys wonder to themselves why a woman would leave them broken, if there is something they did wrong or was it her. I think we want to believe that the people we feel so strongly for would never hurt us and when they prove to be capable we slip into this idea that they will hear our feelings and understand how much it hurts us and won't do it again. Reality is if they do it again they you know they don't respect you anymore and did not seem to grasp your importance, so now your felt feeling pressure and confused because your heart hurts and you don't want to believe that they hurt you again on purpose. But they did.
Many times it is both the way they act and how we react that creates disrespect between both of you. This does not excuse him but you not walking away allows him to test your buttons and how far you will allow him to hurt you since you ignored the fact that he no longer respects you. This is when we should know to leave, but we don't, so we end up hurt and wondering why we are in a place of pain. Please don't let this guy affect your heart because you needed to learn what respect and reliability meant.
Any man that comes into your life that pushes your boundaries on repeat is a lesson to leave and look for the one who won't need to cross you to be content with himself. I'm sorry you haven't found the right guy but at least you know now what the wrong guy looks like. That man who loves you is waiting for you too don't keep him waiting. 😉❤️
I’ve come to learn that the reason for men treating us the way they do is because they don’t think we are “the one.” The one is the person with whom they haven’t a single doubt that they will be the girl of his dreams for he rest of his life. Men don’t experience commitment the way women do. It’s not an honor to commit to one person it’s seen as a sacrafice. So they are honestly looking for a perfect woman and that’s impossible because nobody in the world is perfect. So what ends up happening is they chase the next best thing only to realize that each woman has her own flaws and that some of the flaws of the next woman may be something that isn’t surface level. They usually chase the MOST beautiful woman they can get hoping that she will have the heart of the woman they refuse to settle for. Men also have a hard time accepting that they themselves aren’t even good enough to a lot of the women they want because women have many options to choose from and usually won’t want to settle either. If a man can’t make his mind up about you he won’t say it. Usually he will just show you with his actions or lack of actions that he is having doubts about you. It’s up to YOU to have such high standards and awareness that you make the choice for him. Don’t let him take you for granted. If he is somebody you can trust he will prove it. If he isn’t he simply won’t. He will lie or cheat, if you breakup with him he will
be relieved and only appreciate you if your home. But that’s just how life is unfortunately. He is who he is let
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As a lady, it’s more than just being attractive, since your gorgeous, you have to read people to avoid guys who try to trick you, the best of all woman might end up with jerks if they aren’t discriminating in the early stages of testing out the character of new partners, don’t be afraid to challenge him and ask questions since you have a right to protect your heart.
Are you suggesting that all men are sadists?
How many guys do you walk past everyday that don't fit your criteria of "good enough". Men with a lot of options, like women with a lot of options are going to be harder to trust. How can a guy trust a woman who's pregnant is even pregnant with his kids these days? If he works long hours to make sure you get the money you want so badly how does he know you aren't screwing other men behind his back while he's out of the house. The standards for these sorts of things are set by women in general, not men. Men don't get the final say on if there is sex. He can deny the girl but forcing such things is really only seen as acceptable or okay when it's the female pushing it. 70% of divorces are filed by women. Women get custody the majority of the time. Half of all relationships end in divorce. With numbers like that only a fool would gamble with the odds. Men are walking away because women are pushing them to do so. You want a man to stick around? Change the court system! End no fault divorce. "Until death do you part" is a vow so flippant to women today. It's downright irritating.
Wrong question on wrong plattform. Yes you can but gag become an incel plattform since reddit and youtube ban incel communities and now these incels are on gag.
So you will get a lot of incel comments which is not a good advice. Also make sure that you make your account private if you dont want get harrassed by incels or if you dont want to get death treaths by incels. I got death treaths and insults by my lovely incel fans 🙃. Whatever.
My opinion to your question is that you can trust men but you should be more active, and not passive. Shy, passive, typical feminine girls become the prey of manipulative toxic guys.
Try to be more careful and make a research about his past relationships. He may be toxic in his past relationships too. I am not racist but black American men tend to be irresponsible and hate their own women IN MY Experiences -i only talk about my experience and not about all black men.
The crime rate is higher among black men. I have been approached by black men who were kinda hateful towards their own black women which was weird and sad. If i were you, i would be careful when it comes to dating black men. But my post is anecdotal. So i can't generalize and i dont generalize. I just talk about my experiencesI am coming to find out for 90% of men today, no. I have been hurt since I was a child. Be it by my father, male family member, male peers, male classmate, guys I had as "friends" (not all thankfully), but a good amount and that also includes guys I have encountered all my life. SEX obsessed. They don't slow down, they don't want to stop, they disrespect women, even those who are more of what they say they desire, they don't respect you beyond sexually. It is sad. I find it heartbreaking that I get shamed for not being involved with a man sexually, not even dating all because I upheld my dignity.
This isn't a gender thing. This a human being matter
Both men and women and guilty of being cruel. If a person ends up repeatably with people who hurt them they need to reevaluate themselves. They need to learn to see the red flags and start changing their own behavior thinking and reevaluate their worth. Sometimes people do not realize they may have tendency to choose toxic people. Sometimes they need to to be taught to see the red flags and then learn to walk away immediately and not be so forgiving of wrong doing.
Make new rules for our dating life and don't take any Sh! t expect respect and accept no less!Is that you? You're gorgeous.
I don't know if this is a generic question or one posed to a specific community. I would say where I come from, men see their relationships with women as being the measure of their masculinity. The more women you have. . . the more masculine you are. I struggled mightily with this growing up. There was so much pressure to have sex and then have sex with multiple girls.
I dated girls in high school/college that I was not even attracted to. Just to deal with the pressure.
So if you are running into men or have experience with a man who is not faithful, it is something many of us struggle with. Because we can know the behavior is hurtful, but then we have issues defining our manhood without that kind of behavior.
I would say many men eventually learn that they have to define themselves in more positive ways. But it takes maturity and some willingness to confront themselves. All I can do is wish you love and luck.You're investing in the wrong type of men. Remember, the character traits of a fukboy and a husband and father are generally completely different. And to find a man that has the total package is rarer than a woman who keeps the commitment when presented with a serious upgrade option. I'm speaking honestly, as a 53 year old fukboy who has lost all three great loves of my life to better suited providers.
It's a bitter pill to swallow, believe me. But all three, and yes we're still in contact claim they haven't climbed walls, or begged their partner to stop yet became angry when I did, since. But all three are happily married or equivalent currently. One I continued to see for what she called maintenance for a year and a half after her and her now husband were married. It stopped when he found out.
Now, this may sound like I'm bragging. I am not. I'd trade the reality for the dream of a lifelong partner in an instant. I've yet to meet the one who stays.Majority of women are attracted to top tier guys. Say 75% of all women are seriously after the top 15% of men. Those top 15% have their pick of multiple women in that 75% block. ie. top tier guys have major options. One wrong move and why should Chad have anything more to do with you, when he has a dozen just as hot, just as nice, just as loving and good of a girlfriend as you?
When women talk about evil men, invariably they are talking about the top tier Chad, Tyrone 15%.
The bottom 85% of guys are functionally INVISIBLE to the majority of women. When women want “good” men, they want top tier Chad to be that good man.
Really most women have negative interest in any man who is not Chad. That’s where this “ALL MEN” are trash comes from. It means basically, “all the men I am attracted to are trash”. The rest of us might as well not even exist for you ladiesThis thread has been enlightening. There's a lot of talk about the problems with men. However, it's pretty evident that there are also plenty of women who are completely untrustworthy and volatile to be around. Please scroll down to the thread started by Btbc92, for a wonderful example of this. She's blocked both myself and another user from replying to her unhinged rants about us.
But her attitude is a prime example of a woman who complains and bitches about the state of the male species, while concurrently exhibiting the kinds of toxic behaviors which would cause the very issues she complains about.Who is "men" according to you?
Because if all men you met have hurt you I got some bad news, you got a shitty taste.
And when you make your bed you sleep in it. Women drool over toxic violent insecure guys and when they get hurt they blame the patriarchy.
The heart wants what the heart wants for sure but you need to be mature enough to know what is good and what is bad for you.
I would love to eat junk food all the time but I don't want cholesterol so I refrain as much as I can, and same with you and men, you wanna be treated right you get yourself a decent man, he might not rock your world but then again he might.OK I don't mean to sound bitter when I say this... but don't give everything you've got to a man. Ever. Thats how you get let down. You should always have your guard up a little and not expect them to give you everything you're giving them. Also to answer why they end up hurting ladies like that- its because they can & because they know they have you. Its the same with girls hurting guys. Sometimes if you know someone is so invested and clearly not going anywhere then it can be taken advantage of. Dont give anyone that power.
@Jemma87899 I don't know you and you don't know me. I'm going to suggest that your "man picking selector" is broken. I'm in South Florida and here, many women seem to find the most dysfunctional man that they can find. When the relationship has problems, the woman gets pregnant in an attempt to save the relationship. But it was like trying to prevent the Titanic from sinking - hopeless, so now the woman is a single mother.
I'm going to suggest than when you meet a man you like, before getting physically intimate with the man - introduce the man to a straight male friend/family member of yours to get their read on the prospective man. Since there is no sexual attraction and presuming the friend/family member has your best interests at heart, they will give you an honest read of the prospective man. Good luck!Simple
See there are some part you in control of, some that you are not. For the one you in charge of, you are the sole responsible for it and so you will bear the consequences whether you like it or not.
So do your part as best as you can and in the right and then everything will fall in its place.
Remember just because you are doing something right, does not mean you are guarantee success at the first time. It depends on life itself.Yes you can at least some of us, not all because not all people are good to be trusted. Trust is something that is earned, it´s nothing that should be given around easily. There are guys that are willing to work for that, but there are also guys that will always have an explanation why they broke you´re trust.
The art of love is finding a trust worthy guy emphasizing on the finding because most of those guys don´t have a note around their neck saying: "I´m trust-worthy".
The only thing I can tell you about those guys is, that they don´t make you big promises because they know they can´t keep them.
Don´t take a guy by his words, take him by his actions. If a guy does something that is contradicting what he told about himself, he´s probably not trust-worthy because he´s not measuring up with his own standards and goals for his own life.
If he can´t achieve his goals, he can´t achieve whatever he claims or promises you he would do for you.I cannot agree with this. An enormous number of decent men who love and respect women exist, but many of these women are not interested in such men because they view them as soft, weak, or needy. And because a lot of women are not done using guys or just sleeping with them on the side. Then when they're done ho-ing around they expect a wonderful man to sweep them up and love them.
I am amazed at how many women are out there who will get a loving, decent man come into their lives, but then she gets bored and is ready to cut him off and not look back. Yet these women will keep running back to men who cheat on them - sometimes even abuse them, or the guy has no stable life and certainly no respect for her, yet these women keep trying and even foolishly hold on to hope that they can win these guys back if he left her for someone else.
Until women stop pretending these things aren't true, they're going to keep complaining and having problems.In general I don’t trust anyone, I most certainly do not trust government, I don’t trust donation requests in that my money will go to the actual cause listed, too many front companies funneling money to muslum terrorists, black or lgbtq organizations, so the only charity I donate to now is ME. I do adopt rescue dogs, but that is a direct in person thing that I control. As for women, trust only goes so far, all my paperwork and valuable stuff stays locked in the safe, I don’t go out on an emotional limb, from there I’m a mirror, I give back what I get.
I think it’s not intentional, and I think most men don’t even know what they’re doing... and the women they invite in their lives end up being collateral damage to their selfishness and idiocracy.
Men think and behave differently than women do, and I don’t think they’re aware of the effects their behavior has. Some are aware, and they choose to be assh*les, but that isn’t a reflection of the women they have in their lives but their own internal conflicts and misalignment. But I don’t think they love or get a kick out of hurting women... I mean I’m sure a few select men do, but majority of men, in my opinion, just are clueless because of how their brain is equipped.If you're a lady... you don't need a man.
If it's so easy for men to manipulate you then you need to raise the bar.
There are AWESOME women out there... and there are evil demon spawn bitches.
There are some AWESOME men out there... and some abusive petty pieces of shyt.
Be a responsible adult and don't blame ALL men for the failings of those who grew up without a good dad around and a courageous mom to set things straight.
Empowered women can make shyt work without blaming men for being failures.
Go to work girly...
Good luck dealing with no one to blame shyt on.Yes they can and they still do. When it comes to new men, no you should vet them, because you have crazy ass men out there. However, you'll know if a man is worth trusting when his actions and words match up, let alone he's respectful.
The women you're referring to that are always getting hurt are loyal. By loyal, I mean they have no boundaries and aredoormats for these men that constantly hurt them. You should not have to sacrifice a lot for a relationship that's stagnant or painful, you're only hurting yourself and only yourself. These men that you're referring to are hurting women and they know they can get away with it.
This is why it's important to vet the people you're talking to before you take it to the next step with them. We can't keep having conversations like this if people are not learning and growing. It takes two to tango, but it takes one to lead
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