I’ve been with my boyfriend for 8 months, and everything was going well until almost a month ago when he cried for the first time. His mom was suddenly hospitalized (she’s fine now), and seeing him break down really changed the way I see him. It’s not that I don’t understand why he cried, but it just shattered the strong, protective image I had of him. Since then, I’ve distanced myself, and he’s noticed, asking if he did something wrong. I haven’t told him the truth yet, and I don’t want to end things, but if this continues, I might have to. Any advice?
1 yI hear what you are saying, and I think it's great you are being honest about what you are feeling. I think you should get curious about why you have this distorted perception of what makes a man strong and protective, though. Exploring what you've been exposed to, what's familiar to you, and how it affects your feelings is a good start.
However, I warn you that if you start down the road to understanding what you feel and why, it will likely bring up a lot of stuff you have buried. That's going to be really, really difficult. But on the upside, if you are pursuing truth and have the end goal of being a healthy and whole person, it will change you in all the best ways. You'll have more empathy and more ability to manage your emotions as they come.
My personal opinion is that his vulnerability made you uncomfortable because you simply aren't used to it. You want to get away because it's awkward for you. But this could be an amazing opportunity to grow and learn better patterns with someone who is capable of expressing appropriate emotion. Men who never cry aren't strong, they're walking time bombs. Just some thoughts.
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“ However, I warn you that if you start down the road to understanding what you feel and why, it will likely bring up a lot of stuff you have buried”
It’s also possible she’s a sociopath? Not an evil one per se. She logically understands this is very unfair. But her complete lack of empathy for him is actually more telling.
When he finds out how she truly feels it could possibly detrimentally impact him for the rest of his life depending how much he likes her. For his sake I really hope he wasn’t too deeply in love with her. Sociopath or not this is next level on how she is reacting to this considering the circumstances. @blueonblack22 I see what you are saying, and thanks for the feedback. I lean away from sociopathy simply because of the lack of evidence. If I look at it objectively, she hasn't said anything about impulsive actions, pathological dishonesty, stealing, or other sociopathic indicators. Not that they don't exist here, I just don't have adequate, accurate information to make that claim.
It could be a number of things. A high-functioning autistic woman can be very good at masking in order to integrate socially. So it's possible she is on the spectrum, too.
If she was raised in a family where emotional expression was mocked and/or suppressed, what she is dealing with makes a lot of sense. Right now, she is expressing how she feels about vulnerable emotional expression. She knows it isn't the proper response, but her discomfort is creating a reaction that is not appropriate for the context. She has feelings about vulnerable expression, they make her uncomfortable, her learned response is to pull away.- 1 y
@TheRealPepperPotts that actually very good insight above. Excellent.
But there is a very real danger on what devastating impact this could have on her boyfriend if she was “honest about her feelings” with him.
I once had a woman leave me because my her own admission “I was too sensitive” (yet she was hypersensitive herself). She put rubbed salt in the wound by asking “can we just be friends?” I am a MAN not a one her girlfriends. But in that moment she literally told me she saw me as another woman and not a real man. Most women have no idea how deeply insulting that is.
The point I trying to get to is she needs to be extremely careful on how she conveys this to him. The relationship is likely over. But if she flat out told him exactly how she felt then she is literally telling him she sees him as less than a man. Thats very dangerous.
She needs to take full accountability that this is a HER problem and it’s very abnormal (because it is). And I got a feeling her ego will struggle to do that. - 1 y
@blueonblack22 It's actually not that abnormal for women. She's just being honest about it. Kudos to her. It's a reality that a lot of us men learn way to late in life. Sure it won't make sense to her boyfriend, but it's honesty and ultimately will help him in the long run.
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@Ariesman81 if he was crying over a dead goldfish or a because someone him flipped him off in traffic that’s one thing.
But he’s crying about his mother being in the hospital. She’s the type that would likely lose respect for him if he cried at a funeral. THAT IS ABNORMAL. Very abnormal.
I don’t even think ancient Viking women would lose respect for their husbands/mates if they saw them cry over their mothers being sick or hurt.
The only “favor” she is doing is getting out herself out of his life because the problem is completely HER. Not him. He didn’t do anything wrong in this scenario. And no she isn’t “helping him” by acting like a sociopath. She is being honest about it so I don’t blame her. But I am not going to say this is normal female evolutionary mate selection behavior. She would only be content with a true psychopath. - 1 y
The irony of this all is I personally have a very distant relationship with my own mother. I have a lot of deep resentment/anger towards her. Yet if she was in the hospital for a serious issue I would be very upset about it.
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@blueonblack22 Don't get me wrong... it's very unhealthy. It's just not uncommon for today's women to get the ick when her man shows vulnerability. Emotional strength is something many women find attractive. She just got a taste of his vulnerability and it killed her perception/attraction of him. And yeah... most women desire dark triad personalities. It's not much of a secret. So my opinion stands. She should tell him the truth and give him the information so he can decide what to do with it.
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@Ariesman81 your opinion isn’t wrong in itself. But is the WRONG example to bring it up on. She is the wrong example. Again she’s very abnormal. I do NOT most women would get an “ick” feeling if they saw their boyfriend crying because their mother was gravely hurt/ill.
If we are going to tell me that the can’t even cry in front of women in scenarios like this then we all can look forward to more mass shootings in the future. Seriously.
This is a standard only a psychopath could adhere to. - 1 y
@blueonblack22 Then I implore you to validate her honesty. What she has done is be honest. Yeah... she's got soul searching to do... no argument from me. But this is a reality of female nature. Get angry about it if you wish, but condemning her for it will only push her to dishonesty in the future. And yes, her boyfriend needs to be aware that this type of behavior exists. Leaving him in the dark does him no good but leave him ignorant in the future.
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@Ariesman81 right now she is the latest representation to her boyfriend about what women want romantically. And she’s a aberration. An extreme outlier. Horrible example.
Women are definitely more judgmental of men (whether they admit it or not) when they show vulnerabilities. They do look to men for emotional stability. But I do NOT believe most women would lose respect for a man who never cried in front of them for 9 months and then cried for a VERY legitimate reason. No. F*ck no. This is a HER problem not a HIM problem. And again she doesn’t represent all women. She doesn’t represent the majority of them either.
So he’s obviously got the rotten luck of the draw. What lesson is he supposed to “learn” about women after this? That he needs to be a psychopath to keep a woman’s respect and sexual attraction? Because that is literally what his (soon to be ex) girlfriend expects.
We can have the whole “alpha vs beta” male debate on a different example. I’ll likely agree with your points too. But this example is not the place for it. @blueonblack22 In response to your observation about her sharing this with her boyfriend, I'd definitely lean away from her doing that. Like you said, this is a "her" issue that she needs to work through. I think she may be looking at this too black and white, too. We are comparing nine months of a "good" experience to practically one moment where she had a negative feeling. I think that's worth taking into consideration. If she is willing to toss out nine months of good without at least trying to work out (personally) a very brief moment that she perceived as "bad", then that's her decision. But I think there may be an opportunity for her as an individual to grow.
*For the record, if there are long periods of "good" and then abuse, a person is fully justified in leaving. The "good" does not outweigh abuse.
This is why I don't think it's always beneficial for couples to "talk through" things. Sometimes, it's just emotional and not logical and we have to figure it out in a professional context with no history or reactions.
Also, I've been learning a lot about how guys view the "just friends" thing and it's been really good for me to see that perspective. Thanks for sharing that. :)- 1 y
@blueonblack22 As to your question on what he will learn... I thought I was clear. He will learn that there are good and bad women. And that his understanding of them may have been idealistic rather than rooted in reality.
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@TheRealPepperPotts. I agree with most of things you said above. Except the following:
“ For the record, if there are long periods of "good" and then abuse, a person is fully justified in leaving. The "good" does not outweigh abuse.”
The way you worded that above it almost sounds like you are giving her some kind of “sympathy” for the situation. Like she is still a “victim” some how.
She is a victim of self sabotage. But again that is a HER problem not anybody else’s responsibility or fault especially her boyfriend.
She needs to understand and own up to her reaction to this as very abnormal. That doesn’t mean she should force herself to stay with him. But in no way possible should any blame be placed on her boyfriend.
Her response should be (when breaking up) the following:
“You haven’t done anything wrong at all. Seriously you haven’t. But I am struggling with some internal issues that I need to work on. It wouldn’t be fair to you or myself to stay in a relationship. Your a good man but this just isn’t going to work out.”
This really is a “it’s not you it’s ME” scenario. If she does anything less then that then he’s going to be left believing he did something wrong which he obviously didn’t. - 1 y
Also in this current moment this woman is a direct representation to this guy of what woman really For the record, if there are long periods of "good" and then abuse, a person is fully justified in leaving. The "good" does not outweigh abuse. desire romantically. Sure you can casually tell him “oh she wasn’t meant for you. Most women aren’t like that” but that’s going to sound real dismissive right after he gets dumped for a beyond ridiculous reason. As she’s a absolutely horrible example. Unless (correct me if I’m wrong) most women lose respect for men when they cry over their relatives being very sick or hurt. Do they? Would you lose respect for your partner if he did this?
Anyway I’m just so fed up with women believing that it’s okay to indulge and take action on “their feelings” while completely disregarding how it impacts people around them. That doesn’t mean they should be forced to go against their feelings. But they need to use TACT on how they go about it. Their feelings aren’t “their truth”. There is no “your truth“ or “my truth”. There is only “THE truth”. @blueonblack22 I don't think she is a victim at all. I added the "for the record" knowing that other people will come along and read my comment, possibly taking it the wrong way.
I agree tact is important. I think she needs to work through her feelings privately. I don't know that this necessarily requires breaking up, though. But that is simply my opinion and without more information, I can't really assess further.- 1 y
@TheRealPepperPotts fair enough.
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@blueonblack22 The not you it's me thing is cowardice! Why not say what happened and let him decide if it's bullshit or not? The solution you propose of her walking away with no explanation still leaves him with no understanding of what happened and takes away his ability to learn and grow.
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@Ariesman81 please very kindly just f*ck off on this conversation you interjected yourself on between me and realpepparpotts.
You are the “third wheel” on discussion therealpepparpotts were having. Seriously go away. - 1 y
@blueonblack22 Just admit you're fragile. You'd rather be lied to than told a harsh truth.
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@Ariesman81 told the harsh “truth” by a delusional sociopath?
You keep acting like this woman is a true representation of how MOST women think or some insanity. I don’t believe that for a second. Rather I believe she is all f’d up from either from childhood trauma and/or having some sort of psychosis. But this is NOT atypical evolutionary female mate selection psychology. I don’t know how many times I have to say that.
You are really delusional on this one. Like this guy needs to “learn a lesson” that most women would reject him because he cried about his mother being gravely sick or hurt. That’s insane.
Just give it up. - 1 y
@blueonblack22 What's delusional about it? You admit you think she's telling the truth. There are several other men that have shared their similar stories. I've experienced it. You think it's possible it's just a reality that's hard to come to terms with? I do. I don't like it either. I wish it was different too. But it's not. All we can do is learn how to deal with it. But keeping quiet and not sharing keeps people ignorant. That's all I'm saying.
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1.3K opinions shared on Relationships topic. I get cluster headaches also known as suicide headaches because the pain can be so unbearable that you'd do anything to make it stop!
My boyfriend was sleeping in bed with me when one night I got a cluster headache. I hadn't been with him for very long and didn't have a chance to tell him that I get cluster headaches.
I was fine before going to bed - then 15 minutes later I ran out to the couch and started screaming "God, NO!" over and over. He ran over to be by my side, not knowing what the heck was wrong with me and I couldn't speak to tell him.
He knew I was going through something terrible as he couldn't even touch me without me wincing back away from him.
He felt helpless because he couldn't help me at all and didn't know what was wrong with me.
Then I looked at him and he had tears in his eyes - he was crying in empathy for what I was going through.
When I saw him crying all I thought was "How sweet he is"!!! I thought more of him for crying because he was crying out of being a very sweet and caring person. I never thought less of him.
That first headache in front of him made me feel closer to him than any other guy I had previously been with. He stuck right by my side until it stopped after an hour of me screaming for it to stop.
It was one more thing that he did that made me fall in love with him. We were together for 6 years until he suddenly passed away last year. Now I'm the one crying.
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1 yAnd women keep saying “why don’t men show their emotions” and this ladies and gentlemen is exactly why. Precisely why. 110% the reason why. You now see him as less then a man, don’t you?
However at least I can say one thing: you know this is disgustingly unfair and you are struggling with it. He was crying for a very legitimate reason too. Would feel the same way if he cried at a funeral? From how you described this you probably would.
Anyway this is even more judgmental then I would of expected from the typical woman. Even other true hard ass men wouldn’t of judge him this harshly considering the circumstances.
So that leads me to believe that you got some childhood trauma that lead you to think this way. I think this goes further to atypical female evolutionary psychology. You might be a sociopath. I am not saying that to be insulting either. But it’s a real possibility.My advice is not to tell him the real reason you feel this way until you get some professional help on how to deal with it. If you spoke your mind now it would be one of the deepest insults you could give a man.
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@Jmmmfi4 she’s likely a sociopath. Doesn’t mean she’s “evil”. She understands logically that this is extremely unfair. But she lacks all empathy for him as a human being. And likely can’t help it.
I just hope to God this guy doesn’t have deep feelings for her. If he does, he could forever change his view of women after the truth gets out. - 1 y
@ManOnFire what are your thoughts on this one? I would like to believe this is a troll question but I think she is telling the truth here.
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What? That women are sugar and spice and everything nice?
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@blueonblack22 I'm still in shock after reading the details. She could be trolling but somehow I don't think so. This is truly appalling.
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@ManOnFire yep I don’t think she’s trolling. She would of posted this as anon if that was the case. This is truly next level.
But all the dudes on here are like “oh that’s just woman’s true nature”. I don’t believe that and you know how cynical I can be. This is NOT a scenario for the “alpha vs beta male” debate.
I think she’s mentally deranged and/or a sociopath. Not even “modern” women are this heinously conceited.
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u 1 y"If this continues"... meaning what, exactly? If he continues to be human and have emotions? Or if you continue to feel the way that you do? I sincerely hope that it's the latter.
If he's shown that kind of vulnerability, it should make you appreciate and love the strong and protective side even more. This isn't a dog or sports team. She is his mother. She's the first woman he loved and who loved him. Showing emotion like that isn't a sign of weakness. It's a sign that he's human and that he loves and cherishes his mother. It shouldn't shatter the image you have of him, but it should complete it.
I'm not going to roast you the way that some others have. At least not as badly. I'll say that in my opinion, it would be a very crummy thing to break up with him for that. If it's because you need to step back and reevaluate how you view him (and men in general) and how he engages with his emotions, that's a different story. It's something that ought to be discussed with him.
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4.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. I’m sorry but that is pretty pathetic of you to do to him , How would you feel if he distanced himself from you , if your Mom ends up in the hospital lying on her death bed, and you were crying? Would you want him to walk away from you and give up on you? I understand you are attracted to his masculine energy that you don’t possess within yourself , but you have to understand your boyfriend has feelings as well. So it’s pretty selfish of you to not be by his side during that time. If your boyfriend was crying because you got into an argument with him? That would be one thing , but his Mom? Someone he loves with all his heart? You are best to check yourself before you wreck yourself girl. Men have feelings as well, whoever taught you otherwise, was a complete moron
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1 yHe expressed real emotion appropriately and you got turned off? Just because he cried doesn't mean he isn't strong. I think you need to break up with him honestly but tell him why you are so that he doesn't have to waste his life and he can find someone better.
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1 yThere is nothing wrong with a man crying, showing true emotion. Try to understand why that upsets you.
40 Reply 1.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Despite women saying they want an emotionally available man, it seems they don't like men to have emotions. In particular men crying. On YT I saw a woman saying she lost all respect for a male actor when his role required him to cry.
IRL I have known women to say that when their irl guy cried it was immediate complete loss of respect.
I can understand you losing respect and it seems very necessary for women to feel respect for their man in away that just doesn't apply in the reverse.
It is unfair, as you are expecting him to be made of wood, but your reaction is your reaction so you are not a bad person for this.
It is possible for you to change your emotional reaction and perspective by engendering feelings of sympathy for his extreme distress at the time. Neurons that fire together group together and strengthen the connection. It is a mental trick we should all learn.
A friend would ask himself what is the most advantageous way to feel in these circumstances and work on feeling that response. I learn't the trick from him. it does work if you make the effort often enough.
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Anonymous(30-35)1 yYeah, don't do that.
His mother, one of the closest people to him, a pillar of his life since his literal birth, was hospitalized.
And you expect him to not he upset?
Here is a reality check: men have emotions too.
If he felt that you were close enough to show you him crying, you shouldn't use that as an excuse to avoid him.
How would you feel if he avoided you because you had the audacity to be upset and cry over being faced with your parents death?
My point is, he trusted you enough to show his sensitive side, and what you're doing because he trusted you, makes you unworthy of him.
Here is the thing. You can either get over your nonsense, and try to be worthy as an intimate partner, or you can leave him.
The latter option will leave him unable to trust anyone like that again, and leave him unable to have a truly intimate relationship ever again.
What you are doing to him is shallow, and horrid, and I hope you choose to get over it before you ruin a perfectly good relationship.20 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)1 yNot really, no. You're just (re)-discovering something important about male-female interaction: it doesn't conform to the diktats of modern-day feminism or "gender equality" or whatever. It's deeply, DEEPLY baked into our biology.
Pop culture might SAY that women "should" want a sensitive man, but biology says otherwise. The same problems arise with women out-earning men. (I JUST saw a question about that on here, by the way.). The pop culture interpretation of the "problem" of a woman earning more than a man is that the man has all kinds of issues with that due to insecurity. Of COURSE that's what the geniuses of pop culture would say. Meanwhile, here in the real world literally EVERY man I know would absolutely LOVE it if his wife or girlfriend brought in an extra million bucks!
So what IS the problem then? It's that, on average, it kills the attraction a woman feels for her man. Again, a biological drive is that women seek out men of higher social and economic status than they have. It's just baked in. Because for whatever reason we INSIST that people are blind to this it leads to very bad advice.
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Normally I would agree with you. But her getting turned off because her boyfriend cried about his mother being in the hospital? I don’t even think women 500 years ago would do lost attraction for man who wept over his mother being seriously hurt or ill.
Nah this is on a different level than typical evolutionary female biology. This is a step further. She would probably lost respect for him if he cried at a funeral.
She might be a sociopath. She’s got issues of her own. That doesn’t mean she should date some over sensitive simp. But still this isn’t normal.
Opinion Owner1 y@blueonblack22 I'm not saying it's unreasonable for the dude to be sad. Of COURSE it is. But one thing that women DO find attractive in a man is a dude that isn't emotionally incontinent. Not saying that crying for your sick mom is dishonorable or anything. But it isn't the stoic ideal of a man that women are programmed to be attracted to.
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Yeah but her expecting him to stoic in a time like this is insane. She’s on another level with this judgment. I don’t think a typical woman would react the way she has either.
Opinion Owner1 y@blueonblack22 I don't disagree with any of that. I'm just pointing out where it comes from. Also, it IS helpful if we're all aware of how attraction works so we can lean into the things that stoke attraction and away from the things that kill it. Kinda like when women have the good sense to makes sure they shave their legs and pits before a date with a guy. Is it silly that that makes a difference to guys? Probably. But is it a good idea to do it anyway? Absolutely. Same with dudes and learning to be stoic.
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Again normally I would agree. But this is so extreme we have to disregard her as abnormal and NOT a good example of how most other women feel considering the circumstances.
She’s very likely a sociopath. Logically she understands this is extremely unfair (especially in modern times). That’s why she posted this question. But she also lacks all empathy.
She actually is more worried about what damage this will do to her social optics vs. what damage it will do to him personally when the truth comes out. She’s more worried about societal judgment vs. how he feels.
That is general female selfishness above. But she is on the extreme. Again she would lose all attraction for him if he cried at a funeral.
Opinion Owner1 y@blueonblack22 Perhaps. I guess I'm focusing on something else. That is, a man has to develop and train himself to be master of his emotions. Obviously the severe illness of one's mother is an EXTREME test of that ideal, but the point is we need to train ourselves as men (and indeed ENCOURAGE men) to hold as true to that ideal as possible. And doing so is GOOD for attraction.
Unfortunately, as a society we are doing the exact opposite. We ENCOURAGE men to openly express emotion. In essence, we train men to be women. That is NOT good for those men. It's actually REALLY bad for them. This is an extreme example, but it's indicative of a MUCH bigger problem. Men are MUCH better off when they are MEN. And women are better when men are men too.
We also make the reverse mistake: training women to be men. That's detrimental to the women who do it and it does men no favors either.- 1 y
That above response would be accurate and relevant for a different scenario. But not appropriate for this situation at all. This one is absolutely ridiculous.
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And I get your point about western men being set up for failure by being told it’s okay to express their emotions.
But there is this attitude that if we just tell guys “grow a pair and stop being a pussy” it will magically solve everything. Like the guy will become a stoic alpha male overnight or some bs.
It’s really NOT the man’s fault if he’s been brainwashed for being too emotional modern times. And he’s been brainwashed from a young age too.
But he’s still paying the price for it regardless. Bachelor rates are at all time highs.
But again there is this societal attitude that the man made “a decision” to act that way like he full well knows it will turn women off but does it anyway. He does NOT know how women will react.
It’s really completely the woman’s fault or more accurately modern feminism’s fault that men are acting this way. They are being brainwashed since a young age. And stakes are high too. Very high. Lots of these men would have have been happily married 50 years ago. Now they are being rejected left and right. - 1 y
What I am trying to get to is you can’t expect men in modern times to act all stoic and tough when they been told literally in their entire life it’s okay (or even “good”) to be the opposite. And when a man does get conflicting advice it’s usually comes out of nowhere (which feels like bullying if he isn’t ready for it) OR it’s from the likes of Andrew Tate.
We understand the problem but there is NO EFFECTIVE SOLUTION for men who have this problem.
So now lots of guys are just giving up.
Opinion Owner1 y@blueonblack22 Dude--I'm not for a MINUTE suggesting that if a guy is stoic everything will miraculously work out. That's not true at all. What i'm saying is that it's the best chance most every guy will have. Is it the ONLY chance? No. But you take the other path at your peril.
Plenty of guys opt for the "sneaky fucker" strategy of putting on a pussy hat and joining the girls at the women's march wearing a "the future is female" t-shirt. Will that work for some dudes and get them laid? Yeah--probably. Will it fail MISERABLY for a great, great many? Absolutely.
Same goes the other way: you can develop a stoic attitude, put in the work and STILL fail. But your odds are much, MUCH better if you MAN THE FUCK UP than if you don't.- 1 y
“ Plenty of guys opt for the "sneaky fucker" strategy of putting on a pussy hat and joining the girls at the women's march wearing a "the future is female" ”
I HATE guys like that. And they are growing in numbers too. They also join in on throwing other men other bus to impress women. It’s disgusting.
I had to deal with a POS like that in the workplace years ago. - 1 y
Anyway my theory is at some point women are going to hit a breaking point themselves. They underestimate just how much power and influence they have on men. They are creating their own long term misery.
Opinion Owner1 y@blueonblack22 There is no "women" who can hit a breaking point because "women" aren't some united entity with any agency. There are only individual women and individual men each making decisions that he or she thinks will be in his or her best interest. If you're a dude and you want to do well with women, the best strategy is to put down the pussy hat, pick up a barbell, read a book, and get to work building a profession, some wealth and a social scene and skills.
If you're a woman and you want to get the desirable guy, your best strategy is to drop the "ball-busting girl-boss" vibe, step away from the woke-tard activism, put down the un-natural color hair-dye, shave and wax, eat clean, get to a healthy weight, build a great ass and toned legs, and develop and maintain a light, fun energy.
Opinion Owner1 yIt's really not that tough. Just think of the advice you'd give to your son and to you daughter if you actually cared about THEM and wanted the best for them.
1 yTell me something: Just exactly WHY is it that guys are not allowed to have feelings or to cry when something seriously bad happens, such as a loss, or almost-loss, of a loved one, or the loss of a love relationship (which is experienced by the brain as a "death")? This nonsense is one of the reasons, I would venture to say, why statistically men die at younger ages than women do! You'r KILLING us, ladies, with your ridiculous, unrealistic "man of steel" stereotypes and demands. I think it's time, young lady, for you to grow up and treat your guy as the human being he is. If I were subjected to this from a girl, I'd dump her. I would feel that I deserve better than that. I'm a person, not a symbol!
30 Reply2.3K opinions shared on Relationships topic. I dont understand you, therefore I am unable to give you advice. In fact the fact that someone allows their emotions to show is a form of bravery to me and that is something admirable.
I would like him even more for that, rather than if he kept his composure and fought with himself on the inside in order to keep up a fake front.
That is why I do not understand your reaction.
I would have been devastated if he kept his feelings and controlled them because that would have meant that he doesn't trust me enough to show his pain.14 Reply- 1 y
@Account she has childhood trauma and/or is a sociopath. This isn’t atypical female evolutionary mate selection (or rejection) behavior. Most women in most cultures across any time era would NOT get turned off if they saw their man crying for a very legitimate reason (his mother being sick/hurt).
I can’t shame her for having this reaction. But if she told him how she really felt he would be beyond devastated. It would impact his views on women for the rest of his life.
Really hoping to God this guy doesn’t have deep feelings for her. They were dating for a long time.
1.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Leave him.. Your Pussy is Dried up for him...
You are a Shallow Low Quality Women, he deserves Better, even if that means living alone.
This is exactly what people mean when they say, Most women are Low Quality Today.
You would happily Watch him die on his High Horse, rather than let him step down from it for a few days, to treat his injuries and lick his wounds.
Women of 1970's and before now those were the High Value women. If they saw their men Cry, they wouldn't Perceive him as weak, instead see him as a Knight Injured in glorious battle and care for him like their own child. And within Few Days as his wounds heal. He would climb back on the Horse and Proudly Go to War for her..
It used to be beautiful 🥺🥺 now Just Hoes 🤧🤧
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P. S. if you were Wondering How back in the day women made men loyal to them into Monogamy..
This is how, when a men was Injured or broken, they would Fix him, Cook for him. Take care of him like their own child.
It would take days or weeks before he was Okay..
But once that man was All healthy, He would Swear an Oath to Himself, in the Name of that Nobel woman to serve her Loyally and provide for her for the remainder of his life, because without her he would already be gone by now!
687 opinions shared on Relationships topic. He cried because it's his own mom. In the hospital. Like wtf is wrong with you to look at that as something shameful for him? And then want to "distance yourself." You just showed us who you are, and hopefully he sees it too and dumps your sorry ass.
This is just disgusting.
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1 yWell don’t tell him you lost attraction because he cried, he’ll internalize that and never cry again, which just isn’t healthy. My question is why not see the strength it takes him to be vulnerable and adjust that to the image you have of him in your mind?
40 ReplyGirl, I will hold your hands when I’ll tell you this but… you’re the problem.
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MHO times 10 here.
1.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Jesus. If he cried at a parent passing, would you view him as weak? Ffs
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1 yGrow up and accept reality - people feel emotions, and emotions can lead to tears. In both women and men. Tears of joy and sadness. If you want to judge people for crying, then break up with that guy. You’ll actually be doing him a favor because he’ll quickly get over you and find a woman who appreciates him for who he is.
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1 yThat is fine. As long as it is ok for hm to treat you like less of a human being if you ever cry. As long as you don't mind him thinking you are a sad human being if you cry ever. How do you like that?
Do this guy a favor and dump him. He deserves so much better then you.10 Reply - 377 opinions shared on Relationships topic.
1 yGenerally, a man's tears are his emotional response to recognition that in this particular matter he is POWERLESS to affect a beneficial outcome... and so he weeps, to 'vent' his frustration, rather than to let those emotions fester and grow cancerous~
Be honored that he trusts you enough to share that vulnerability WITH you.10 Reply
1 yMaybe try and figure out why men showing real emotion turned you off and go from there. Crying when your mom is in the hospital is completely valid and understandable.
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1 yBreak up with him! It is clear that if that would turn you off you don't actually love the man or you have a lot of growing up to do. A man crying should make you feel worse than seeing a woman cry because men don't cry easily.
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1 yI think i can help.
If you enjoy movies at all, can you think of a few strong/protective male characters that you like or find attractive for those reasons? Or even a celebrity or real-world famous man of any kind who's character you admire & find attractive like that?
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Anonymous(25-29)1 yYou suck. Let him go so he can find a normal human being and you go find a robot void of humanoid emotions.
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1 yThis is straight up heartless. Unless you were already planning on leaving, don't be in a relationship with anyone other than a sociopath, if this is how you view men.
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I think she is a sociopath herself. Seriously. Not necessarily an “evil” one. Logically she fully understands this is insanely unfair. But emotionally she lacks all empathy. She is only dating him for what’s in it FOR HER. That’s it.
Fair or not (actually it’s really unfair) I understand why women get turned off by overly emotional men despite them “saying” it’s okay. It has to do with evolution.
But what she is describing is another level. Not normal. I don’t even think ancient Viking women would get turned off if a man wept over his mother being seriously sick / hurt.
2.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. For fuck's sake Grow Up and try acting your age.
60 Reply6.7K opinions shared on Relationships topic. "but it just shattered the strong, protective image I had of him."
There you have it girls. This is why men don't cry near you or show emotions.
This relationship is finished. Do him one last favor and suggest him AI Girlfriends.
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1 yI'm really confused why so many people are saying to leave this guy in the dark, with no closure. This is reality. It's biology. It's nature. It's cruel. It's unfair. But it's real!
And as for the men who want to leave him in the dark... shame on you!
10 Reply1.8K opinions shared on Relationships topic. If he thought his mom was going to die then half the men in this world would probably cry, too. You're a cold piece of work. Like others said, you may be a sociopath or highly functioning autistic, or have unresolved childhood trauma. I strongly suggest you get sterilized so that you do not pass on your curse of having no empathy. I also strongly suggest you see a good psychologist.
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1 yHonestly, if a man being vulnerable with you makes you want to run the other direction, you’re not in the relationship with balanced altruism, but rather for what you want out of him; and thus, that man deserves someone better.
20 Reply You are the type of women that are responsible for men not showing any emotions or support from their wives. Good luck he deserves better and I hope someone leaves you too when you need them the most.
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1 yTo start... throw away your mental idealism of him and see him as a person. Accept he is a person and not some emotionless strong being. If you can't accept men have emotions, regardless of how strong they are, all relationships you will have will fail.
00 Reply Most women don't like weak men, so it understandable, a man should control himself.
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1 yYeah your terrible person. That's so heartless to do. Go find some other heartless person to be with. People like you suck.
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1 yI think you should end the relationship as soonest. He deserve someone who respects, accepts, understands and values his personality mostly him being vulnerable.
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Anonymous(30-35)1 ysoo you'll be single for the rest of your life if you think men who cry are somehow not "strong and protective". do you want to date a psychopath who never cries? are you listening to yourself?
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1 yYikes. The poor guy was vulnerable in front of you because he trusted you, and you shut him down and think less of him? You shouldn’t be in that relationship
10 Reply5.2K opinions shared on Relationships topic. And women wonder why we show no emotions and keep everything bottled deep down inside and to ourselves this is a prime example of why.
Because the moment we do women break things off or distance themselves from us.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 yYou are typical of women today, you say you want men to show emotion/vulnerability and as soon as we you want nothing to do with them.
You do not deserve the guy, he was stressed having to deal with his mothers hospitalisation, he shows how much he cares for her and you cannot take it.
This is much like your previous post where you boyfriend says he needs a bit of alone time but its you who feels hurt, everything in this relationship seems to focused on you.
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1 yso I guess you have some security issues. is that consistently a theme or temporary?
you appear to be afraid of vulnerability and crying. So where in your past did you experience this...
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1 yWait, I thought women wanted men to 'Show their emotions" and be open?
30 Reply7.3K opinions shared on Relationships topic. His mother was hospitalized. I would be more concerned if he didn;t cry.
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Anonymous(36-45)1 yYou need to break up with his as soon as you can. He deserves someone who can support him when things get tough.
He can find bettet40 Reply- 2.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
1 yThat’s really harsh. Men cry too. Doesn’t mean he can’t protect you.
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1 yYou should be alone. You aren't worthy of relationships.
You sound twisted and slightly evil.
10 Reply 3.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. And women wonder why we don't share our feelings...
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Literally one of my first thoughts
Anonymous(36-45)1 yI know this is a troll post, but it's fking hilarious how many dishonest responses you're getting. Pretty much every woman operates this way. They just don't want to admit it to themselves.
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It’s either a troll post or she’s a sociopath. This is an extreme example of female judgmental behavior.
Opinion Owner1 yIt's an extreme way to communicate it, which is def something a sociopath could do. But it's not necessarily an extreme example of female feelings.
Of course a woman loses respect for a weak man. Of course a woman is turned off by a weak man. Most just have to make up other reasons so they don't feel bad about it or look bad to others. This is just basic human nature. If women weren't like this, our species literally wouldn't exist. No exaggeration.- 1 y
I notice lots of dudes are bringing out the whole “male vs female evolutionary psychology” on this one. Bad timing.
Normally I would agree with some of those points. But NOT for this example. Hell no. F*ck no. This guy is crying over his mother being the hospital. That makes him a loving son and a human being not a f*cking “beta male”. That’s just ridiculous.
She’s either damaged from her childhood upbringing and/or she’s a sociopath. Her reacting this way given the situation is not typical female “evolutionary” behavior.
638 opinions shared on Relationships topic. So you don't want him to have feelings? Some things can break down even a really strong man. If you don't think he is the strong man that you thought he was, break up with him. He deserves better than you
00 ReplySeeeeeeeee! thats what i am talking about. It is coded to DNA that men have to be strong and protect woman and provide for him. Otherwise that exactly happens. Same thing happens when guy make less money than his girlfriend.
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1 yYou're going to have to break up because you're not going to be able to respect him this is exactly why I tell guys not to be emotional around women.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 y4 women responding one condemning this act. And even then only anonymously.
I can't imagine why guys do not open up to women and show vulnerability.😆
20 Reply8K opinions shared on Relationships topic. This is exactly why men are hesitant to open up to women.
You might as well break up now because this is never going to change.
You fucked it up00 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Yes, this is not about him but you… why are you distancing yourself? Are men not to show emotions? Emotions aren’t a sign of weakness they are a sign of being human….
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1 yMen are not Terminators. Women are not Cotton Candy. Don't have such expectations from any man because men are not objects of power. You are such an ungrateful loser that you don't deserve a respectable man who loves his mother.
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1 yHis mother was sick and seriou, so he cried due to grief and instead of consoling , you are insulting him and thinking to break, you are very cruel woman don't have sympathy with your partner, such women should be left and no relationship
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Anonymous(30-35)1 yattraction can't be forced
you're just human just like anyone else
users here shaming you are just virtue signaling
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u 1 ymy advice would be... find your heart...
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1 yYou're better off without him. He's a pansy. You should find a proper man.
Simples...
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1 yYou want a MAN to SMACK the SHIT out of you to release emotions. I get it 😉
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1 yMaybe the kind of boyfriend you are aiming for is a psychopath.
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1 yYou see ladies this is why us men bottle our feelings up until it either explodes into homicidal rage or gives us cancer
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1 ySo he lost your respect because he is not a sociopath?
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u 1 yAdvice? Grow up.
30 Reply He definitely needs to find a new girlfriend.
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