Monogamy is an oppressive institution and should be abolished. Agree?
Taken from actual research on the matter.
"Only 3 percent to 5 percent of the roughly 5,000 species of mammals (including humans) are known to form lifelong, monogamous bonds , with the loyal superstars including beavers, wolves and some bats."
The research shows that sexual monogamy is much more an ideal than a practice.
By nature it seems that humans are naturally polygamous. Although polyandry, a marriage of one woman to many men, is rare, polygyny, the marriage of one man to many women, is widely practiced in human societies. Humans, in fact, possess certain characteristics typical of non-monogamous species. Monogamous species are also monomorphic, meaning that both males and females are the same size. Polygamous species are dimorphic: the male is larger than the female. Guess what comes next. Human males are typically 10 percent taller and 20 percent heavier than females, and it seems that humans have been mildly polygamous throughout history.
it isn’t natural for humans to be monogamous, it is OK to have affairs and have multiple partners. The real reason, which they state over and over again, is to shed light on the fact that monogamy is difficult. Because it is not natural for humans, and because our instinctual desires have a tendency to lead us astray, we have a responsibility to put in a conscious effort to practice what we have committed to. Monogamy requires work. If we continue to pretend it’s natural, it’s easier to be led down the path that often leads to infidelity.
Hogwash. People with this kind of attitude basically are cheaters that want to come up with an excuse to just cheat in the open. If you love someone, you never want then having sex with someone else. That is why when people start bringing up a 3-some, you know the relationship is dead and they want to fuck other people.
What is also hilarious are this people that want to tell you they are in "OPEN" relationships. Sorry, OPEN is NOT a relationship, it is called "being single". So if you want to fuck a bunch of people, your just single. stop trying to dress it up..
The more I think about it and the more I learn, monogamy seems less and less optimal. I think as we continue evolve as a species, polyamory will become the new norm. Right now, most of us are far too insecure and possessive to be anything but monogamous. I even had this conversation with a friend of mine, he sounded very similar to you. He seemed to believe that monogamy was impossible, that he would get bored with one person, that he needed variety when it came to his relationships, but at the same time, he would not be able to handle his girlfriend doing the same thing. In my situation, I am polyamorous and in a perfect world, I could be in love with more than one person at a time and not face any negative consequences. My boyfriend, on the other hand, could not handle it and I'm okay with that, we have a great sex life, so I'm not concerned with losing interest. I love him more than I love being polyamorous, so I have no problem with staying loyal to him alone. Essentially, it's a choice to your going to make if you ever do end up falling in love. If you can find someone who is in love with you and is poly, then you've hit the jackpot. Unfortunately, that sounds incredibly rare to me, because our society is geared towards monogamy and I think we're just gonna have to deal with that lmao. To abolish monogamy isn't realistic, it'll have to come as a result of a very gradual societal change in mindset regarding relationships.
I want a monogamous relationship. It has always been ideal to me to be with one person... like, I think the best is when you meet and marry your high school sweetheart. I am a romantic.
BUT... I really respect men like you who just come out and tell the truth about not being into monogamy, because I truly think what you said is true for all men and most don't want to admit it or have been brainwashed by society to believe they want monogamy when it's not their nature. Hopefully, you're being upfront with women about how you feel. I don't get the "multiple wives" part... why get married? What I get is men wanting to f*ck different women, and more and more women today are into you being like "I just want to f*ck" and will agree to it without commitment. I wouldn't, but many would. But I'd rather you tell me than try to trick me into a "relationship" and tell me lies about how you'll be faithful, and then f*ck others behind my back. This is what most men do, when most should be doing like you to women's face.
It's up to each individual to decide what is best for them. There is is monogamy gene (yes. In humans. Not prairie voles) It is more natural for some while unnatural for others. Staying with one person for extended period of time takes work. But so does dating or being married to multiple people. Nobody can tell you what should work best for you. Just be up front and honest in your life. But to say it should be abolished? No. Because then you are ignoring those who DO believe in it. You should respect their right to be monogamous as much as they should respect your right not to be.
You're perfectly free to be in as many polygamous 'relationships' as you wish. I don't see why monogamy should be banned, though. Forcing people to be either polygamous or live their lives alone is far more 'oppressive' than monogamy in itself.
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Disagree. Polygamy and polyandry should be legal but monogamy shouldn't be abolished. Let people be free and do what they want.
monogamy is an option. so if people choose something obviously it's not oppression.
By the same logic, we should legalize having sex with animals.
Totally not the same logic...
@samhradh_leannan
"I think that I should be allowed to marry animals. I think that marriage only to humans is an oppressive institution because if I ever tried to marry an animal people would shame me for it and it's actually illegal. I think that we should fight for equality so that people like myself are able to marry animals. I honestly don't understand how people can support restricting marriage to humans when it stops so many people being happy. How could you be happy only having sex with humans for the rest of your life? I certainly couldn't. I want to be able to have relations with animals."
Humans already marry other humans. Allowing polygamy is a way smaller step than allowing marriage to animals. Would you compare having a threesome to bestiality?
@samhradh_leannan In most parts of the world, humans are not allowed to have more than one wife at a time. I never said that having a second wife is the same thing as marrying a goat; I aid the same logic would support such an argument.
If you want to argue simply for the sake of arguing, I suggest that you visit the Argument Clinic:
https://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y
So you're not actually saying that polygamy is in any way comparable to bestiality.
@samhradh_leannan I never said that. I only suggested that a similar argument could be put together to support something absurd like bestiality. No, I don't favor polygamy but it is not in the same class as bestiality, necrophilia, etc.
I suggest you convert to Islam, and move to one of those places that allows it then.
One at a time is quite enough for me, thanks.
In Islam, having more than one partner is voluntary as well. Just as it is within the normal society. You speak of conversion as if its an escape method for OP to fuck who he wants, which isn't true. Even if the man in Islam wants to get more than one partner, he must discuss and make sure that his first partner is okay with i. If she's not, he's can't. Your statement isn't valid.
statistically people with fewer sexual partners are happier then those with many. They report higher levels of satisfaction within marriage, they report higher levels of satisfaction with there sex lives, its a much more stable environment for children so its better for children etc. Your argument is basically demanding to be able to eat ice cream all day everyday, sure you can do it but its horrible for you and it will make you increasingly less happy and significantly less healthy. Its an argument for self indulgence with no regard to the outcome of your actions. But in this case other people are hurt (namely spouses and children) not just you.
I have a question, would you be happy with your multiple wives and girlfriends having multiple husbands and boyfriends at the same time?
Monogany is interesting because it started from necessity back when men would kill womens children if they weren't his. (it's going WAYY back)
It's not necessarily all that important now.
I SAY MONOGAMY PROTECTS YOUR HEALTH... if you have a committed partner!
Sexually transmitted diseases are becoming drug resistant to Antibiotics. The CDC said the following...
The new data (2016) should serve as a warning that "the future of current treatment options may be in jeopardy." Another Article stated that "Incurable gonorrhea may be the next superbug
If you want to have sex and keep your health, Monogamy it is!
www.cbsnews.com/.../
www.nbcnews.com/.../#.WNLSQGjytGM
I believe that polygamy between consenting adults should be legal, but that doesn't mean that monogamy is oppressive or that it needs to be abolished. Many people do want monogamous relationships, and I believe that monogamy is the most emotionally healthy type of relationship for the majority of people.
(And when I say that I believe polygamy between consenting adults should be legal, I mean that for both genders- men should be allowed to have multiple wives AND women should be allowed to have multiple husbands.)
Just be honest and say you want a whole harem of women you can screw and use as a bed warmer, and we just might believe your still sane. Polygamy always habors problems. Throughout history there have always bedn issues with it because of the experiences amd the consequences that affects everybody in that relationship. Most people would feel used and unloved eventually down the road and would want out of the deal, but stay bevausw they don't want to be alone or judged if it ever leads that person to date another person who wouldn't want to take the risk. Monogamy is not opprssive. People make it that way. Give credit where it's due.
I totally disagree!! For you, maybe it is great fun, choosing who you FCK, any given night. What's the attraction for the women, being little more than 'playthings' for you?
I find this kind of thing repulsive!!
So many women are not being adequately loved, respected by just one guy, and you think that you are 'MAN ENOUGH' to have several? HA HA!!
Or are they just sex-toys to you? do you even care for how they feel, what they want, and need, like RESPECT, as a PERSON!!
Okay. You consider it oppressive, but others don't. Let them do whatever the fuck they want. It's not like their personal life choices affect yours. Also, just because I hate threesomes or one-night stands, should I be yelling to others not to have them? What the fuck? That would be idiotic as hell.
Live and let live.
I agree that polygamy relationships should be legal as well though, even though I'd never choose to have one myself.
I think what you are talking about is a polygamy relationship. (You can YouTube documentaries of people who live like this). It is actually really interesting to see what works and what doesn't. I guess as long as everyone is a consenting adult, you may do as you like. In most countries though, you can only be married to one. The other would have to be a girlfriend.
"murder laws should be abolished. I should be allowed to murder peopel. If I wee to try to murder people i would be shamed for it. and it's actually illegal."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monogamy_in_animals
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a9763-why-humans-have-evolved-to-prefer-monogamy
I believe in loving one man. But if you wanna live that way thats your choice. While i don't see the point in getting married to multiple people , just call it dating because thats all that will be. You won't have no kind of connection or any kind of special relationship just being with multiple women or men at once.
Bull shit!
I believe in Monogamy in a relationship, if you can not commit to one person. You are not ready for a real relationship, it is that simple.
When you open yourself up and connect to someone on a deep emotional and physical level, you can be faithful to that person with no problem.
Every person I know that says they don't believe in Monogamy, has issues with trust.
I agree with you...
I do not think monogamy is oppressive at all I do think polyamorous marriages should be legal though. There is still level of commitment and trust involve in polyamorous relationships as well sometimes even more then monogamous relationships. Don't blame monogamy for being a wimp who can't commit.
I picked agree, but I want to have several husbands.. it's more fair that way...
1 man, many wives ends up with the wives not getting to have sex when they want.. the man is drained after one wife.
1 woman, many husbands would be GREAT... all those men could keep having sex with me and as I drain them, the next one is there, while the one before has time to rest up and go again if I WANT...
That's Stupid since men have a stronger sex drive. Thus 1 man and many women just like it used to be is better. Women often don't wanna fuck.
Plus women can only get pregnant with one man at a time. A man can impregnate multiple women
You want to be poly? Fine.. as long as you find willing partners who share your desire for a polyamorous lifestyle and relationship structure.
But I personally much prefer monogamy.
Good point about that. I think that if polygamy were to be legal, the tax benefits would have to be slightly different for those marriages.
What if there was a cap of some type on the total benefits that can be given to a individual marriage, which would be evenly split between all the spouses no matter how many spouses are involved? Maybe I don't know enough about marriage benefit laws, but it seems to me that there must be some way to make it work.
@samhradh_leannan I just don't see that as being logistically feasible. Tax credits aren't cut and dry where you could just put a cap on them. I just feel like trying to enforce limits on these types of marriages would be a bureaucratic nightmare and wouldn't justify the added costs of processing.
It's true that it would be very complicated.
while monogamy is my personal preference, i'm the first to agree that it doesn't work for everyone and that consensual nonmonogamy is a totally legit option for those who don't want to be tied down.
as long as you are honest and not deceiving anyone, i see no issue with it. cosmo ran a great article on polyamory a few years back, and it was an eye-opener.
But how would you feel if each of those wives also had another husband or two?
Love is finding that one person that you could literally just fuck forever and never get sick of it...
You've obviously never been in love.
I'm legitimately shocked at how you put that. Don't think I've ever seen you use that kind of description before. 😂
No, most people cannot handle the man or woman they love in the arms of another person. Some can handle it, some like it, but those people are in a minority and they're free to do what they want until they start telling everyone else that they're morons.
Omg, a blue anon being a blue anon. Is the sky still blue? *Gasp* It is!!!
Ugh, let me answer this for the zillionth time: marriage exists for those wanting to go into it. If you don't want one, don't get one. If you want multiple women, have multiple women wo are ok with that, and if you want to call them "wives", and they are ok with that, by all means, call them wives.
Don't go around complaining it's unfair and spoiling others' times.
I voted agree but obvs reverse the gender in my case. Sometimes it feels fair that I should be allowed to have a few boyfriends since I am usually the one who is better off and I'm more of a sexual person etc. But this isn't how society functions, unfortunately.
Most people ignore it these days anyway whether it's "offically" abolished or not. Either by simply refusing to be in a closed relationship (me) or cheating in a supposedly closed one. You'll probably have better luck trying to ban all marriages first, those have a head start at just 37% marriage rates and falling (with even the majority of those ending in divorce within 5-10 years).
Monogamy is a choice between two people.
Polygamy is a choice between several people.
Marriage is an institution and an agreement, between 2 people and the state.
So what you're reeeeally saying is that the state should license Polygamous marriage and offer you benefits as such. Feel free to make your case for why the states should recognize that marriage and give benefits. Go!
I personally believe all marriage should be illegal.
Jokes aside, polygamy should be just as fine as monogamy; so long as all people involved in the relationship give consent, there's nothing wrong with it. Nowadays, we have "sequential" polygamy, where people have multiple partners over a certain course, also known as whoring.
So because you don't want it means it should be abolished? Why?
Are you okay with your girlfriends and wives having multiple husbands and boyfriends?
Monogamy works for some but not for others. Finding like minded people may be hard but they are out there and open relationships exist.
I don't care what they do. I just want multiple... I could never be okay with just one woman.
So then find an open relationship or soemone who swings... they are out there and there are clubs once you are in a couple with someone who feels how you do. My best friend and her husband are in a relationship with another couple and they are planning to all live together once the kids are grown up. they keep it on the down low but their are lots of people who don't fall into the main stream.
I don't think monogamy should be abolished since I'm happy with it and I wouldn't want that choice to be taken away from me. I do think that polygamy should become acceptable though.
It's not oppressive. If you want to have multiple partners, just don't get married. Problem solved.
Well, if you think so, move to the middle east, see how much less oppressive it is
There is ZERO need to abolish any voluntary institution.
i don't think it needs to be abolished. i just think it should be more acceptable to not get married, esp for women. it's like you failed as a woman if you don't get validated via someone wanting to marry you.
Hell naw.. One woman would be more than enough for me.. Ion think I could handle more than that.. LOL..
So do you have these women lined up for this?
I could but they're indoctrinated to believe that monogamy is good when in fact it's quite terrible. But I have two friends that I could have a relationship with if I wanted to.
sorry i can't share my girl with someone else and i am ok with fucking the same person everyvnight. monogamy is not oppressive and i don't mind you being in a polygamous relationship.
live and let live.
Dude try and get one girl to text you back first okay..
so you're saying all women should sluts and men have no respect for themselves and fk whoever they can get regardless of their girlfriend or wife?
fk off
Why do you think you would be able to attract multiple women at once? Without monogamy, you get violence because some men can’t get laid.
Unfortunately I can’t link anything yet, but look up an economist article on the link between war and polygamy.
But you don't need them all to be your wife if you want to have sex with them? Or am I missing your point? Just don't get married if you want multiple partners
I think you have your answer in the polls. Not very many are in favor of polygamy. And I certainly am not either.
Firmly disagree. However, I do agree that polygamy should be fully legalized, and that people should have the right to choose to have as few or as many spouses as they want.
It's usually selfish, greedy people who think like you. Monogamy is the bedrock of society and marriage and family. But since morality has declined, people are more miserable and unhappy than ever before.
Umm dude look at how many people cheat. Or have open relationships.
if a girl has many partners she is considered a whore and if a man has many he is what then? i doesn't look good for her but should for him? are you for equality?
Women "let" men have sex with them. If a woman screwed every guy that wanted to screw her her sex ratio would be 1000 to 1 what a guy would be, that's why you are a whore. It's fine to have a decent number of experiences, but when you have the the key to the door to sex, it's to be frowned on to just leave the door open. Ps. I think men that fuck anything that moves are whores too.
Trust me, you dont want multiple girlfriend 's or wives.
The drama WILL outweigh the benefits.
On a serious note, monogamy is the system that works best in society
I will agree, if and only if they will cut off a man's dick/slice a woman's vagina if he/she cannot support ALL of them and support must be equal across the board..
That's a terrifying and completely unnecessary overreaction.
Fuck and fly? I don't know exactly what that means but if it has anything to do with sleeping with someone and then running off, then I think that has very little to do with marriage.
What does that have to do with legalizing polygamy?
Obviously people have a responsibility to support their children... but monogamous couples aren't required to prove that they can support an indefinite number of children before being allowed to get married.
OF COURSE people shouldn't have children that they can't support. But mutilating a person's genitals is not in any way an appropriate response to any of these issues.
I genuinely prefer to give my full attention to one women... but that's just me
I think both monogamy and polygamy should be allowed. Everyone is different.
I completely disagree. I only want 1 wive! I can only fully support and love 1 wive the way she deserves to be loved.
I think everyone should do what they want at the end of the day. You do you and I'll do me.
You ok with people having sex with animals?
I voted no. Thanks for you who voted no. We need to stand up what is right and correct. Marriage is one male and one female. This honors God.
I think so too. In areas without monogamy, marriages are more stable.
I think marriage is a bit overrated... people can be committed without being married.
Okk if they so then all those women would be fucking with other guys too! Are you cool with that?
I disagree. I don't like sharing nor do I like being shared. That being said, no voluntary institution should be abolished. Live the way you want, and let people live the way they want. Simple.
No. It brings estability to families raising children.
Your filled with extreme lust. One person you love should be enough.
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