If the justification for abortion is that a woman owns her body, then she owns her body during the entire pregnancy. She does not cease to own her body after her baby reaches viability, turns seventh months old, or whatever line one wishes to draw. She owns her body once that line has been crossed, just as she did before that line was crossed.
If she wants to. Who the hell cares? No one is in any place to be offended over it. Its only her fetus, its only her decision, its only her body. I don't care because it's not my place to act like a "God sent saint" and cry over someone making the best decision for themselves. Personally I wouldn't abort. Doesn't mean others shouldn't either.
Its not "murder". But if you want to play that, than how about this... Would you rather a woman abort her pregnancy or raise a baby she didn't want, can't afford and isn't ready for? Maybe she put it for adoption, foster care or any other give away program. The child will have to go their whole life knowing mommy didn't want to keep him because she couldn't do it and now he's getting passed along from home to home. Abortion is a good option. I don't agree with people having unprotected sex knowing they'll get pregnant but not caring because abortion is a option. But people who really didn't mean to, was r*ped, too young, not enough $ and know they're unable to raise a baby and give it a good quality of life, should be free to do it without disgusting, judgmental people calling them "murderers". It's hard enough as is and while they feel relieved, Im sure theyre not thrilled over having to do it.
Also, i know that its considered a human at like 6mos or something. Most places won't let you abort anything after a certain period of time. So the abortion 9/10 times happens while the baby is a blob of cells.
No if a woman allows a guy to dip his stick without cover then she knows exactly what she's doing! He should know that once she is pregnant his has no choice to keep abort or adopt! Not his body but hers so her choice what she does...
@No1butme But this is where you are wrong because women DO choose constantly. Most abortions are because of females poor decisions, not rape or other problems.
When a baker puts a cake in the oven, the oven doesn't instantly get ownership of the cake. Women want 100% of the choice not because of the "my body, my choice" scapegoat, they simply want to dictate males choice. If when women went to get abortions the law required the father to be asked and if he said he wanted the baby, they would take the embryo out of the female and put it in an artificial womb to be incubated for him, women would still protest that they don't want the child being born if they don't want it. Women use their 100% parental rights as weapons against men.
Not all women are or think the same, and no I very much doubt it's because she wants to 1 up or something.. for me (Not that I'd ever abort) most men "not all" give the promise to help and be there regardless if they together or not but 8/10 do not do what they say and this will be leaving her to cope alone. I've never heard that law I will have to look that up, a woman that falls pregnant and choosing to keep it is very risky! Each pregnancy carries a risk and for us to take that risk on our unborn and self should be worshipped by the farther, we are giving something so special called life! But parenthood is daunting and definitely a decision for matured adults. These kids that think its all roses or they can solve it by abortion is wrong. From the minute that baby's heart starts beating it's a life not a game or to dictate a man's say! A child is life changing
@No1butme You need to learn the difference between universal and general statements.
Also, We live in 2018... healthy western women do NOT die in childbirth the way they did centuries ago. In 2010 there were 3,978,497 births and 700 deaths. That is 0.02% death rate during birth. Which is NOT an epidemic, especially when you factor in home births, hidden teen births, etc. Which could have been saved if done properly.
Also, women who have had more than one abortion have accounted for 45% of all abortions, which means women are using it as a means of birth control. Which is sick! And the majority of abortions are done by women in their 20's.
<0.5% Victim of rape 3% Fetal health problems 4% Physical health problems 4% Would interfere with education or career 7% Not mature enough to raise a child 8% Don't want to be a single mother 19% Done having children 23% Can't afford a baby 25% Not ready for a child
Women need to be held responsible for their choices BEFORE not after sex.
@No1butme I think I have proven I have done research unlike you who are simply stating your personal experience as a universal truth.
CASE IN POINT: 0.02% death rate during birth.
Also, women who have had more than one abortion have accounted for 45% of all abortions, which means women are using it as a means of birth control. Which is sick! And the majority of abortions are done by women in their 20's.
<0.5% Victim of rape 3% Fetal health problems 4% Physical health problems 4% Would interfere with education or career 7% Not mature enough to raise a child 8% Don't want to be a single mother 19% Done having children 23% Can't afford a baby 25% Not ready for a child
Body autonomy argument is flawed. Pro-choicers draw the line somewhere. If the justification for abortion is that a woman owns her body, then she owns her body during the entire pregnancy. She does not cease to own her body after her baby reaches viability, turns seventh months old, or whatever line one wishes to draw. She owns her body once that line has been crossed, just as she did before that line was crossed.
Agaim Aghfanistan? I said I'm not from there. So coutries that believe the unborn is a human being right after it comes out of the vagina are civilized? And Americans wonder why others think they are dumb...
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I'm fine if they want to discuss it with their partner. I am not ok with them having the ultimate and final say.
If he's supportive and treat her good then and he had good intentions then yes, if not then he can fuck off
I think his opinions should be listened to and taken under consideration. But she can do whatever she wants with her own body.
If the justification for abortion is that a woman owns her body, then she owns her body during the entire pregnancy. She does not cease to own her body after her baby reaches viability, turns seventh months old, or whatever line one wishes to draw. She owns her body once that line has been crossed, just as she did before that line was crossed.
Um. Okay? Lmao If someone doesn't WANT to be pregnant, she doesn't HAVE to be. Especially if it was accidental.
so she can have an abortion even when the fetus is viable?
If she wants to. Who the hell cares? No one is in any place to be offended over it. Its only her fetus, its only her decision, its only her body. I don't care because it's not my place to act like a "God sent saint" and cry over someone making the best decision for themselves. Personally I wouldn't abort. Doesn't mean others shouldn't either.
so you don't care whether it's murder or not or you think the fetus is a human being once it's born?
Its not "murder". But if you want to play that, than how about this...
Would you rather a woman abort her pregnancy or raise a baby she didn't want, can't afford and isn't ready for? Maybe she put it for adoption, foster care or any other give away program. The child will have to go their whole life knowing mommy didn't want to keep him because she couldn't do it and now he's getting passed along from home to home.
Abortion is a good option. I don't agree with people having unprotected sex knowing they'll get pregnant but not caring because abortion is a option. But people who really didn't mean to, was r*ped, too young, not enough $ and know they're unable to raise a baby and give it a good quality of life, should be free to do it without disgusting, judgmental people calling them "murderers". It's hard enough as is and while they feel relieved, Im sure theyre not thrilled over having to do it.
Also, i know that its considered a human at like 6mos or something. Most places won't let you abort anything after a certain period of time. So the abortion 9/10 times happens while the baby is a blob of cells.
It's my sperm that produced a little boy or girl therefore I should have a right in the matter.
Absolutely. At least if they have to pay for child support.
If you don't knock up girl, you don't have to pay for child support.
Knocking up is a mutual decision. Keeping the baby is never. Why must the man pay for something he doesn't have control over?
@gps181 if she has an abortion there's child support to be paid. But some guys want a say to stop girls from abortion.
TYPO!!
@gps181 if she has an abortion there's NO child support to be pai
Yes. The only way they shouldn't be allowed a say is if we give men equal opportunity to abandon their responsibilities. Only way it's fair.
Yeah. It's half his kid.
Of course. It is their baby too.
They can say what they want but it's the woman's decision
why?
Yeah to any women that say no fuck you
what?
Women who say no man has no say over whether or not child is destroyed or not fuck those people
50% of the DNA, 50% of the decision.
The 50% of your decision was to cover before you go in... after that it's all her!
@No1butme That mentality can be used against women as well.
Make your decisions BEFORE insemination not after!
But as usual women with your mindset hate being responsible for their decisions.
No if a woman allows a guy to dip his stick without cover then she knows exactly what she's doing! He should know that once she is pregnant his has no choice to keep abort or adopt! Not his body but hers so her choice what she does...
@No1butme But this is where you are wrong because women DO choose constantly. Most abortions are because of females poor decisions, not rape or other problems.
When a baker puts a cake in the oven, the oven doesn't instantly get ownership of the cake.
Women want 100% of the choice not because of the "my body, my choice" scapegoat, they simply want to dictate males choice.
If when women went to get abortions the law required the father to be asked and if he said he wanted the baby, they would take the embryo out of the female and put it in an artificial womb to be incubated for him, women would still protest that they don't want the child being born if they don't want it. Women use their 100% parental rights as weapons against men.
Not all women are or think the same, and no I very much doubt it's because she wants to 1 up or something.. for me (Not that I'd ever abort) most men "not all" give the promise to help and be there regardless if they together or not but 8/10 do not do what they say and this will be leaving her to cope alone. I've never heard that law I will have to look that up, a woman that falls pregnant and choosing to keep it is very risky! Each pregnancy carries a risk and for us to take that risk on our unborn and self should be worshipped by the farther, we are giving something so special called life! But parenthood is daunting and definitely a decision for matured adults. These kids that think its all roses or they can solve it by abortion is wrong. From the minute that baby's heart starts beating it's a life not a game or to dictate a man's say! A child is life changing
@No1butme You need to learn the difference between universal and general statements.
Also, We live in 2018... healthy western women do NOT die in childbirth the way they did centuries ago. In 2010 there were 3,978,497 births and 700 deaths.
That is 0.02% death rate during birth. Which is NOT an epidemic, especially when you factor in home births, hidden teen births, etc. Which could have been saved if done properly.
Also, women who have had more than one abortion have accounted for 45% of all abortions, which means women are using it as a means of birth control. Which is sick!
And the majority of abortions are done by women in their 20's.
<0.5% Victim of rape
3% Fetal health problems
4% Physical health problems
4% Would interfere with education or career
7% Not mature enough to raise a child
8% Don't want to be a single mother
19% Done having children
23% Can't afford a baby
25% Not ready for a child
Women need to be held responsible for their choices BEFORE not after sex.
abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/
I have 4 and nearly died 3 times! Been told no more because of it... yes I'm fully aware what year it thanks
@No1butme Just because you have issues which make you an exception to the standard, doesn't make the standard false.
There are many issues that can cause problems.. maybe you should research
@No1butme I think I have proven I have done research unlike you who are simply stating your personal experience as a universal truth.
CASE IN POINT: 0.02% death rate during birth.
Also, women who have had more than one abortion have accounted for 45% of all abortions, which means women are using it as a means of birth control. Which is sick!
And the majority of abortions are done by women in their 20's.
<0.5% Victim of rape
3% Fetal health problems
4% Physical health problems
4% Would interfere with education or career
7% Not mature enough to raise a child
8% Don't want to be a single mother
19% Done having children
23% Can't afford a baby
25% Not ready for a child
No he shouldn’t. 🤦🏻♀️
Yes, otherwise no sex in my case.
He made it with u so he definitely has a say
Yes..
50%. Equal. Fair.
It's her womb, not that of the guy.
Body autonomy argument is flawed.
Pro-choicers draw the line somewhere. If the justification for abortion is that a woman owns her body, then she owns her body during the entire pregnancy. She does not cease to own her body after her baby reaches viability, turns seventh months old, or whatever line one wishes to draw. She owns her body once that line has been crossed, just as she did before that line was crossed.
I addressed an answer to that already @proteingal
Oh yeah you said she can have abortions even when it's viable because according to law abortion is murder.
@proteingal
YOU might be in Afghanistan. (which I doubt) We are not.
according to law abortion is not murder.
I'm not from there
Thanks fot viewing my profile. So killing the unborn is never murder?
Not in the US or most civilized countries
But of course, in Afghanistan they don't see it like in the western world.
Agaim Aghfanistan? I said I'm not from there.
So coutries that believe the unborn is a human being right after it comes out of the vagina are civilized? And Americans wonder why others think they are dumb...
@proteingal Your profile says Afghanistan.
Because I didn't want to mention where I'm from.
Thus I consider you to be Afghan.
I'm Russian and you know me