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Most liberals where I come from are highly irrational, highly emotional, highly unaccepting to opposing views, and just unpleasant to be around. I simply ignore them. They're not worth the debate. They will argue you in circles with you till you get pissed off and become frustrated at their inability to have a simple constructive conversation, and then capitalize on this by throwing emotional jabs and twisting your own words on you. They tend to argue on this notion that they are simply a better person than you morally. When you present facts, they will name-call and throw a tantrum until you walk away.
The democratic party has been absolutely disgusting these past few years, and even the few democrats in my family are now voting republican. If a girl needs to announce her political views in a way of hatred on a simple dating profile, then she should be avoided regardless of how good she looks. Normal, level-headed, and rational people simply don't do this.
"Ain't no p____ that good!" :) :) :) I hear you, brother!
I'm not American but even where I live I've noticed liberals are prejudiced even more than conservatives. I've got friends from both sides and the liberals want people in relationships that are exactly like them. No one else.
Isn't that the definition of prejudice? The thing they supposibly hate..
You get it!
I think its a case of what you looking for vs reality
I assume its just that you seen few of them and taken it as general to them
Beside that its likely you see more of them as his the president now, his the identity that is really "loud" around the commuinty, so you see more about it
I think its likely to flip when the other side will be the "loud" one
Sorry I keep forgetting who's who, don't live in the US, so not sure about your partys
Did you read all of my post? You think I am generalizing and what I actually said was "I've noticed that about 10% of the profiles of women who identified themselves as liberals contains statements like. . .."
I read all of it, sorry if it sounded like I said you generalize I was mostly trying to talk about the profiles not showing it or the like, that I think may be more likely to be missed if your not looking for them spasficlly
But the biggest reason I think is just that he is the president so has more eyes on then the other names
Personally living outside the US only name I heard there before reading the post was Trump 😅
I've seen on profiles, "don't contact me if you're a feminist."
Of course, I don't peruse guys profiles, so I wouldn't know about that. I would not want to date a hostile, aggressive feminist but I have dated many women who really only wanted equality of opportunity.
I'm a feminist and I truly do want equality of opportunity. I've given up telling guys that until they get to know me.
The problem that you have is that another group misappropriated your name and you get blamed for their sins. It is similar to what happened to Southerners who are not racist and who are proud of their Southern heritage. If they display a flag of the Confederacy, they are automatically labelled as racists because there are actual racists who like to wave that same flag.
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I think both B and a little D, but B being their honest belief. Not reality. Some people can't handle and don't want to hear opposing views, ever. They have conviction. If you don't think like them you are subhuman and obviously living your life wrong.
One day you'll see the error of your ways and are simply misguided. Another phrase for that would be confirmation bias. All information only reinforces their existing beliefs. Everyone has confirmation bias to some extent or other.
Some people just suffer it to an extreme. 2+2 is 4, but also sometimes 5, and no matter what proof you show it will reinforce the belief in whichever value they believe in. Also they just know what they want, someone who will agree with them.
Well... I think we can all agree that Trump is very polarizing, and not your traditional politician, whether you view that as good or bad. I can definitely see where some could view him as a distasteful person, I wouldn’t tell you I think he’s a good guy, just on a human level, regardless of his political moves or proposals, and I’d have said that before he even ran for office, although some of the stories I’ve heard since then just cement that belief. That said, that’s independent of his performance as a president. In all honesty, I don’t put any stock in politics, so that’s just a bunch of fake-life white noise that I pay no mind to, just on the strength that I only allow myself to make rules that apply to me, I don’t permit complete strangers to do that for me, whether it’s Trump, Obama, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I, Reagan, Carter, or whoever #47 and beyond end up being, I simply refuse to be a part of that game. They are all #NotMyPresident, I’ll never fold to the demands of another mere human being no better or worse than you or I, that’s the height of insanity to me. So I say all that to say that, depending on who you ask, Trump has done some positive things economically, with trade deals, etc. And he’s been the most contested president of my lifetime, so no doubt that has hampered his ability to accomplish things, whether I’d like them or not, to a point where we could really fairly assess the guy.
So for these liberal women... in my best estimation, if I were to make a blanket statement, is that liberals are concerned with doing what is kind and decent, particularly for the have-nots, and conservatives are most concerned with doing what’s “best for business”, and they find some sort of pride or merit to being a big swinging dick in the global political scene, and to them, it’s important that America remains in that position. While I don’t have a dog in the fight, and rather just dislike the perceived need for the fight as a whole, I will take this opportunity to point out that when you look at these “happiest citizens” studies, when not conducted by Americans, it’s always the countries who are NOT swinging dicks, who more go out of their way to NOT look to achieve that status, and kind of just self-sufficiently and quietly go about their business, like your Switzerlands and Scandinavian countries of the world. So what’s best for America the political and economic entity may not necessarily be what’s best for the American citizen, but that’s all I really have to say on that matter, haha. So anyway, regarding the liberal women, it’s much more Trump’s persona that upsets people than his policies, I think. They don’t like the policies, but it’s amplified because they think the dude is a vile piece of shit on a human level. But more than anything, people seem to have, whether they realize it or not, more of a problem with Trump’s supporters than Trump himself. That doesn’t, or at least shouldn’t, mean ALL people who voted for Trump. Just yesterday at Christmas dinner my aunt said Trump was a sociopath... but she typically votes republican (despite being a lesbian, haha), voted for Trump
last time, would do it again, and will likely do it again in 2020. But she thinks the guy is inarguably a disgusting person, she just thinks he was the best available option as far as policy and direction. I think a lot of stuff was overblown by the right about Hillary Clinton, but I still wouldn’t say she’s a clean politician, she’s a fucking fraud like like pretty much every politician is. But whatever side you’re on, you’ll buy what they’re selling, most likely. So the problem with Trump is that his loudest and proudest supporters are extremely antagonistic. People don’t wear MAGA hats because they like Trump as much as they do it to piss off people who don’t like Trump, I’m pretty certain of that. Like if it didn’t get a rise out of people they’d be less likely to do it, I think we’re kidding ourselves to believe otherwise.
I remember people of course not liking Bush Part Deux, thinking the Iraq War was based on oil control or finishing his father’s bidding, all that shit, but if you had a “W” sticker on your car, you wouldn’t get harassed or have your windshield smashed or your paint job keyed up. Trump? I’m not so sure, haha. But anyway, I’m rambling, the point is, Trump’s staunchest supporters are loud, proud, and it seems a lot of them are VERY MUCH into antagonizing people who disagree with them, and half of those detractors are crazy as all get out themselves. Like this isn’t your standard “one side won, one side lost, see ya again in four years”, this was a “we absolutely CANNOT allow this type of person to be our president” this time. And whatever you think about that, it’s pretty inarguable that the MAGA crowd has been loving every second of this victory lap, and my neutral opinion on that is that it’s just as counterproductive to do that than it is to fight the outcome of an election.
So after all that, I’m just saying that I think there’s a stigma of being a Trump supporter that it automatically means you’re one or all of the following: racist, xenophobic, homophobic, elitist, anti-diversity, anti-modern/progressive attitudes, and that you simply stand for old, outdated, unacceptable standards and codes of behavior. And unfortunately there are enough idiots in the MAGA camp that proudly profess these ideals to the point where you could say it’s something of a trend. Like I went to deliver a Christmas present to our neighbor for my dad, dude is a big MAGA guy, has a Keep America Great 2020 hat and a bright red MAGA scarf that he absolutely wears to get a rise out of “snowflakes”, like he’s “that guy.” I was shocked and appalled as I approached his front lawn that he had one of those lawn jockey statuettes that I thought we all kind of made a gentlemen’s agreement like 30 years ago to not have those anymore on account of racial insensitivity. I asked my dad about it and said “Charlie seems like the kind of guy to have that thing just because he likes that it offends people”, and my dad said that’s absolutely why he has it. I’m pretty sure our mailman in the neighborhood is black too, so that’s a HORRIBLE look. I’m all for the whole “don’t be so sensitive” movement, but some shit is just over the line, and that’s one of those things.
So, sorry for the War & Peace version of all this, haha, I think the gist of what I’m saying is that liberal women don’t like Trump, and that’s only reinforced by some of his worst supporters. Just like they like to say people with more PC agendas “are just helping him get re-elected”, people like that are just helping liberals hate the whole Trump faction even more. I’d agree some liberal views are way too sensitive and based in semantics and other dumb bullshit, but I don’t think the answer is to go the other way with it and try to enforce the idea that “free speech” has anything to do with being a hateful and bigoted asshole. And that has happened enough with Trump’s craziest supporters, who not only do it, but do it with antagonistic gusto, that it’s at least fair to think a person who supports Trump isn’t going to have the base level of decency (by their standard) that they look for in a partner. I’ve never seen this country so polarized, and it’s sad, not for the country necessarily, I don’t care what happens to America as long as the land mass still remains to live on, the management will never be acknowledged by or relevant to me, but I just think that if we’re at a point where your politics are a defining characteristic of who we are, and we can’t be friends with people who don’t agree with us... we have just lost the plot and are absolutely fuuuuuucccckkkkked.
I wouldn’t say that 10% of profiles self-identifying as liberal making that statement is “frequent”, but that’s just me. I didn’t vote because I don’t like any of the options. Every individual in each camp is just that - an individual, with individual thoughts and feelings towards other opinions.
I very rarely talk about politics on here or flaunt my beliefs and leanings, as I have come under fire for it each time I have by established users I will not mention. But, here I go. As a fairly liberal person myself - remember I’m Canadian, so to Americans I probably seem off the charts, haha 😆 - I am in no way a fan of Trump. I find him to be an extremely divisive individual, more so than any other President in recent years, or even decades. I disagree with most of what he and his base of supporters believe in. However, that is only my opinion, and I’m not going to berate or alienate anybody for thinking differently, unlike these women on the app.
They are making your screening process easier. Stick to the other 90%. If only 10% of the pool has been eliminated for you, you’re very lucky.
As a liberal woman I would say it's to make sure you don't end up with someone with opposing views and honestly when it comes to supporting trump specifically, yes it can definitely create a divide. Our morals typically tend to be completely different and nobody wants a hot debate at home 😒 i’d hate to be with a man who's gonna want to argue with me about believing in open borders or supporting abortion rights. I rather we each stay in our own homes with fitting families and also I would prefer my kid to grow up liberal of course when he gets older he can choose and i’d 100% still love him just that same.
Yeah, supporting your right to murder, IE abortion.
"Our morals typically tend to be completely different" Too many liberals - I am not accusing you of this - arrogantly conclude that conservatives have NO morals!
"nobody wants a hot debate at home" I dated a liberal for two years and I remember contentious discussions of politics happening only twice.
"i’d hate to be with a man who's gonna want to argue with me. . ." Why do you assume that a conservative man would want to argue with you. I've never dated anyone for the purpose of working on their political conversion.
" I would prefer my kid to grow up liberal of course" Why wouldn't you want them to make those decisions for themselves?
@DorkVader the absolute TRUTH 👌💯 we stand up for everybody
@OlderAndWiser yeah sorry I don't like Republicans like that and would not want my home to clash together like that because yes I tend to disagree with Republicans. I love talking about politics so I def don't want a home where I can't do that in and no I don't want someone who thinks differently in my own home because the things we'd disagree on would probably not even matter to said Republicans the same way they do to me. I know where I'm from though not too many people are Republicans.
Liberals stand up for everybody. . . except women who are oppressed in Muslim countries, homosexuals who are murdered in Muslim countries, conservatives who have their free speech rights abridged, and the American flag!
So if you can't tolerate people who disagree with you, perhaps you should stop calling yourself tolerant.
Stop lying yes we do and fuck conservatives free speech rights we know what your ignorant selfs mean by that, you want the right to scream at people to go back to their country in public and e. t. c. And Americas legacy needs to be rewritten because it was originally for the white Man to succeed.
You have revealed yourself.
Infinite eyerolls. Because someone doesn't wish to argue over politics daily, which if you care, you're gonna argue, isn't indicative of intolerance. It's a matter of self preservation. Who invites that kind of strife and turmoil into their home? Often politics are intangible to some people, but we live and breathe it daily. I wouldn't want to bother trying to argue my perspective daily with someone who lacked empathy. Empathy meaning is unwilling or unable to take my stance into account.
Amen @DorkVader exactly!! We all have the right to accept who we want into our homes and who we even want to build one with.
@DorkVader I am a conservative and, for two years, I dated a dedicated liberal. We had two arguments about politics in two years. Disagreements do not need to lead to arguments. . . at least not for conservatives.
"I wouldn't want to bother trying to argue my perspective daily with someone who lacked empathy. Empathy meaning is unwilling or unable to take my stance into account." And you take the conservative stance into account when dealing with your conservative friends (if you have any?)
Of course you have the right to decide who to invite into your home. That is not what the discussion was about, and you are trying to change the topic.
That's because you aren't tolerant of diversity. And, yes, you have the right to be intolerant.
I disagree with Republicans we don’t hold the same views or morals period. I can be friends with a Republican but to full on allow one into my home and to invite that type of negativity is just a no for me. I’m into politics and don’t want someone who’s gonna obviously not agree with me in my own home.
@DorkVader Liberals are the hypocrites on tolerance! Your words prove that point!
That's fine, but what you are describing is called intolerance to diversity of thought. Why is it so difficult for you to admit that?
@OlderAndWiser Wow. Just wow. She got weird with you as well, eh. It's any wonder 3 of 4 men gave her a down vote. The three men who gave her a thumbs up are soy boys! I can now appreciate why the general liberal consensus in 2020 is to silence dissenting views they deem contentious! She threw out a bunch of profanity at me straight away on a thread meant to be a joke! On top of that, she got all butt hurt because I told her she was immature and needed to act her age! It's laughable how, in a liberal democracy, the one thing people -- Liberals in particular -- chose not to support is the diversity of thought and opinion. The funny thing is: the only reason why there's any negativity between her and people with different political beliefs has a lot to do with her inability to discuss openly different opinions. She's just very closed-minded and unable to manage disagreement. I actually thought I was the only one with whom she screeched at on this platform! 😆
This post was from 2 months ago and since when does no one on this app get in debates?
Also don’t be a hypocrite a point out how I was talking when he was being just the same and honestly I’m not about to start arguing over this when it happened two months ago and it’s strange that you even came to find this.
You’re extremely bothered over our encounter and it’s been like a day now right? Yeah get help dude.
Also to the intolerance comment, no it’s not when I’d still be Friends with them that is definitely being tolerant is it not? Dating no though but that’s a dating preference you don’t just choose your friends based off of if you would date them and by the way I’m sorry for even responding to this 2 months later I genuinely don’t want to start another debate over this.
Conservatives are generally more tolerant of other political views, regardless of gender. Liberals have very strong opinions against anyone that doesn't agree with them a slight bit, and they are intolerant towards anyone that's not the same as them. So I'm not surprised with their dating profiles. Recently I came across a Liberal... Awful. She accused me of sounding like a White Supremacist (can you believe? Do I sound like a White Supremacist to you?)
I would never affix that label to you!
She told me I sound like a White Supremacist and if I'm not a White Supremacist then I shouldn't be portraying myself in a way that I seem like one. And I had to hear that because of a Facebook status that said that Liberals will totally flip if anyone calls them derogatory names yet they find it okay to call others derogatory names.
I think the only thing that I could have on common with a White Supremacist is that I speak English. I don't know what else I've done that she thinks I talk like a White Supremacist!
Many liberals call people names instead of discussing the merits of an issue because it is easier for them.
They are quick to classify anyone as a hateful person. Or at least sketchy.
I mean, on the plus side, they're laying out their intolerant cards right at the get go.
Remember, friend: don't stick your dick in crazy. And when crazy reveals itself, just run. In a zig zag. They're easily confused by people who can change their minds.
Done it a couple of times. Experience is a great teacher!
I find it is more socially accepted to be more liberal and less conservative. I am a UK citizen and we have labour and conservative here. My views have usually aligned more with the conservative party. On the rare occasions where I have actually hinted at my political opinions, I was just attacked with a slew of uncalled for hate by those who I thought were friends, no less. It causes far less trouble than to simply go along with the political opinions of whoever I'm with, for the sake of everyone getting along.
I would also that it's rather immature to only want to talk to those of a certain political belief. I have no religion, but have various muslim and christian friends, and we have zero issues.
I'm a democrat. And since Trump has sexually assualted women, diacriminated people for their race and lied about so many things I would have a really hard time understanding why someone would support him. Just like I would have a really hard time understanding why someone would support Putin.
However I would accept it and I would never say or write "don't talk to me if you are a trump supporter". I can have a discussion about it without it being an argument.
However if you are a republican it's problaby easier to get along with someone who has the same view as you. So in a way they are doing you a favour.
Hope my comment helped.😊
Yes, I understand what you said, but I dated a liberal woman for two years, we only had 2 heated political discussions, and we had really good chemistry.
That's Nice that you got along! It works but problaby easier if you have the same view.
If you can't develop the ability to tolerate people who occasionally disagree with you, you will never be happy in a long term relationship.
Don't forget about your great Clinton's I mean Bill Clinton is a rapist and Hillary protected a pedophile.
So honestly don't throw that whole who's holier than thou crap around because guess what... if you could read every democrat and republican minds you would find that both are equally guilty of sexual crimes and worse. It's human nature girl welcome to the club.
@Pipeliner87 I'm not gonna waste my time talking to you but thinking isn't illegal. Trump has been guilty of many crimes and sexual assualt and racism is not something I take lightly. If you can find evidamce that Obama has done the same then pleace show me.
Otherwise Merry Christmas🎁🎅
Also I don't like Hillary or Bill. I liked Obama. And I like Bernie Sanders right now too. Problaby more than Obama.
A Bernie supporter, Intolerant, Racist, Young, Want's free things they have not worked for, Lazy, Poor, Has no idea what hard work is, Sense of entitlement is their primary goal, They have no sense of accountability for their choices in life, It's the government's fault "NOT MINE"!, Make's irrational choices based on emotions.
@Pipeliner87 i will have to disagree with you. People deserve health care No matter what and poor People usually work more than rich People. They can have up to 3 jobs. Also democrat want equality for all People that's why we want health care for all even you republican who hate muslims/women and don't want everyone to have the same rights like health care and People who shit on poor People when they work harder. Poor People usually have 3 jobs to survive. They work much harder than rich People.
I hope you change your mind when it comes to racism and health care. The billionares don't need that much money infart they dont notice a difference in paying taxes cause they can't get rid of the money by itself.
Good luck in the future. Read more about the subject before you judge. :)
I respect your opinion and I dont wanna start an argument but I disagree.
MERRY Christmas 🎄🎁🎅😊
I used to think trump derangement syndrome was kind of a hyperbolic way of making fun of people that were put off by trump.
I’m thinking lately it might actually be a thing cuz there are some people that hate him so much they’ll do very egregious things and call it righteousness and not even recognize the hypocrisy of it.
Ultimately Gotta be grateful for these people though cause they will be responsible for getting him elected again.
It's stupid to filter out someone based on their political beliefs, not only does it not change anything about who they are (unless they're extremists) because most liberals and conservatives are regular folks with regular lifestyles but different opinions which to me is what democracy should be: different opinions yet we can respectfully listen and understand the other persons point of view.
I know that if I agreed on everything politics with my girlfriend I'd get bored easily it's good to have different opinions and debate over them but you can still like that person even though they don't agree.
It's as saying you don't like someone because they have a different skin colour which is dumb. Or saying the relationship can't work because your zodiac signs don't match!
I think it’s actually bc progressives are typically less religious it’s almost like progressivism is the religion where conservatives tend to have a separate religion and politics are separate.
Saying don’t contact me if you don’t hate Trump is kind of like saying don’t contact me if you’re not a Christian who loves God
I am a Christian and I have dated atheists and agnostics. I respect every person's right to believe what they believe without condemnation.
Got it!
---------I am actually kind of glad they do put that on their profile because it's much better to find out now that they are crazy then after a date or two.
Many liberal women wear it as a badge of honor and the good guys see it as a dead squirrel.
Not a good look.
Yes, "thanks for not wasting my time!" I think to myself.
Trump has been credibly accused of sexual harassment and assault. A lot of liberal women don't want to date someone who would support or tolerate a politician like that. Also, most people don't want to argue about politics with their significant other, and want someone with shared political values.
So why is it that conservative women don't act the same way?
As a provocation: Conservative women can't afford to be picky - only a few guys want them :D :D
However: to carry politics into a relationship as a 'qualifying' factor will ONLY make sense when 'politics' are a very relevant thing in someone's life. Why not voice it out? It saves time.
I understand everything that you said but you missed the point. I have no problem with people having political preferences and voicing those preferences. It is the extreme level of hatred demonstrated and absolute intolerance that impresses me as being pathological. AND I did not see that same level of hatred and intolerance demonstrated by any of the conservative women. (I'm not saying that it never happens but it didn't happen in any of the profiles I have viewed over the past 4 days.)
I see: the 'intensity' is your point.
Exactly! It's not a facet of their life; it is their entire life, their raison d'être.
Liberals in general know their belief system is weak as hell, and if anyone challenges it, it'll all fall apart. They cannot afford introspection, so they avoid it at all costs.
Great comment in fact!
they are showing their emotional colors. The liberals are more... sensitive and triggered. They cannot have a conversation about it without being set off into a bad emotional place. I just consider them the emotionally unbalanced.
But there are people who are towards middle ground who hate Trump.
Interesting metric to watch... do more relationships break around election time... lol.
Good luck out there! Why not go to a foreign land? Philipines, Slovenia? Fish in new waters...
I have handled the divorce of an American who married a Russian bride. I know how manipulative such relationships can be. I am receptive to dating Europeans who are already in this country. In fact, I have dated women from the Ukraine, Poland, Germany, and Ireland.
I can only imagine... I've seen good success in Philippines... catholic, family values. Doesn't mean all... just %'s.
I think you are going to weird dating websites, I have seen liberal girls and political thoughts were usually not among their immediate dating requirments, while I do believe women tend to have slightly more radical political beliefs than men, I think women saying "no trump fans" on their profiles were meant to express the fact that they are not just a piece of body to have sex with but that also they have a brain with political thoughts even if they said thoughts do not have general approval. Women like men are willing to make compromises on their beliefs if they are really interested with a relationship with worthy person
So, when a liberal woman says, "Don;t contact me if you are a Trump supporter!" she doesn't really mean it and I should contact her anyway?
I’ve noticed the same thing with men on dating sites and on social media. I’m conservative and I have a friend who is staunchly liberal. He’s been trying to get me over to the left for years and doesn’t seem to get that it’s not going to happen. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Trump but there are many opinions and values held by the left that I don’t agree with. I would date a liberal as long as we came to a mutual agreement to leave each other’s parties alone.
if you ask me-this goes way beyond politics or parties in regards to trump.
I can only answer from what I've seen from men on dating sites, which is both parties expressing disinterest in the other.
"If you're a Trump supporter, don't bother."
"If you're anti-Trump, you won't be making anything great with me."
It’s because Trump is a polarizing, divisive, and controversial individual on a whole other level than most politicians.
I really don’t understand the down votes. Even if you have trump pillowcases on your bed, trump steaks in your fridge and trump ties (Made in China) in your closet, you must recognize he is polarizing figure.
I think that most people realize that Trump is the object of polarization but many also feel that the media and the left's intolerance is what has caused the divisiveness.
It couldn’t just be the media coverage of Trumps own words? like “John McCain.. not a war hero...
I like people that weren’t captured,”
Or media coverage of Trumps nicknames
“Lyin’ Ted”
“Weird Rand” Paul
“Sleepy Joe” Biden
“Crazy Nancy” Pelosi
“Little Marco” Rubio
are those not polarizing comments? Especially to those Constituents who support the afore mentioned politicians who’ve disagreed with him?
Is it one or the other. Can't it be both? I will admit that Trump loses style points every time he opens his mouth but do you sincerely believe that the media gives him unbiased coverage and adequately addresses his accomplishments?
I think there are definite biases in media (mostly the op-ed variety marketed as “news” ) but there’s certainly no media bias in his actual tweets and actual on-camera quotes.
Going all the way back to George Washington, whatever the president of the United States says is “news” and Influential. it’s just unfortunate that
one needs to pick and choose what this president says is news worthy or just noise from an insecure narcissist. Either way, his words are influential and polarizing.
And so are the words of Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, etc., but they do not get the same scrutiny and criticism that Trump draws. The difference is not because Trump is the president, because Obama did not get that kind of constant antagonistic coverage, either. But W got coverage that was very biased and networks openly called him stupid.
Media has always satirized, and caricatured politicians. Most take it in stride as part of the job but I don’t think there’s ever been a politician let alone the US President who publicly berated war hero's, the US intelligence agencies, , law enforcement, US allies, Hollywood OR the media the way this president does. If nothing else, trump is very good at getting people to notice him.
The media went very light on Obama; he was their darling. The media was also not very critical of Bill Clinton. It is a matter of degree but it us significant.
I admitted that Trump was a buffoon but you seem reluctant to say that the media has done anything unfair to Trump. I think both of those are obvious facts.
I see the media report on Trump activity. Some simply report the activity, Some demonize his activity and some lionize his activity but at the core, it’s all Trump being Trump that gets the media’s attention. Polarizing attention.
Okay. The media treats him with the utmost fairness and exceptional lack of bias. Anything negative is all his fault.
Is it possible that you are perceiving things in a very polarized way?
I actually try very hard to not let my opinions be biased by a news report. As with my business, I try to do extensive research from multiple angles on a subject before I give my opinion to clients. it’s the same here. I can safely say that while I acknowledge certain biases in reporting Trump, I work hard to not let them influence my opinions.
It’s also why I am a registered independent. I look at all angles before voting on who will represent me. Based on many of my core beliefs, I tend to vote republican. But not always. And I’m honestly getting increasingly tired of politicians and the so called intelligent public just towing the party line.
Have you tried okcupid yet?
About the question, I've never noticed that before however it might be true based in my experience with some friends. I'm a conservative and I feel liberals are always too intolerant towards different opinions
I have not tried OKCupid. I have previously tried match, POF, and a Catholic dating site (I am not Catholic but I am Lutheran and I get along with Catholics very well) which is not defunct. I am currently on Bumble and POF.
Never heard of POF. And I actually never got to know how to use bumble. I'd recommend okc.
POF = Plenty of Fish
Never heard of it. Thanks!
I have had good results using POF.
Is it paid?
You can use POF for free but you get more functions available if you pay.
I haven't been on a dating site in many years so I can't address the issue directly. I do know liberal women who dated Trump supporters and couldn't stand them. So, it's possible that other women have had such experiences and put in disclaimers to keep them away.
It's interesting how much effort you put into arguing that liberal women are intolerant, suggesting by contrast that conservative women are tolerant. I certainly have not had this experience. I'd say that at least 90% of the intolerance that I see on G@G is from Trump supporters. Not only are they intolerant but they flaunt it. Liberals are intolerant of Trump supporters (I certainly am), but Trump supporters are intolerant of EVERYONE who does not think or look like them. That is by far the greater intolerance.
So none of them said “don’t contact me unless you hate Mitt Romney” or something similar?
its perhaps worth considering that Trump really is not in the same category as most other senior republicans OR democrats.
Right. And not a single conservative woman expressed any ill feelings towards AOC, Pelosi, Biden, Obama, Warren, Sanders, or anyone else. Do you think that no one on the left is as "evil" as Trump?
No. I don’t think any of them are as corrupt or currently damaging as trump.
I think AOC is an idiot and Sanders delusional. I think either one of them would be as damaging for America and the world if they were president but one tries to remain optimistic that someone remotely competent might get the role. Or at least someone who delegates appropriately. I’m Canadian and our prime minister is an absolute mentally vacant lightweight but... he doesn’t imagine he should be coming up with new ideas and when dealing with foreign countries does what he’s being told to do by those behind him.
Honestly I would find it pretty understandable if someone couldn’t handle dating a die hard Sanders supporter who walks around hating Pelosi for being a right wing neoliberal (in their eyes).
People who’d walk around hating Pelosi, Warren or Biden I find suspect... just as I’d find hating Paul Ryan or Romney odd.
I have been off the market for 3 decades but the times we live in a very bizarre. I was torn between two opinions. These women don't seriously think that anyone is going to be interested in them. I know if I were a man I would scroll right by.
They don't want to date someone who supports a guy who thinks its okay to "grab em by the pussy"
Why does that sound soo unreasonable?
Also a very generalised question
One of the differences between Trump and other politicians is that he was caught making that comment on video. Do you think there are no liberals who engage in such behavior?
Well, you are attempting to rationalize the liberal mind with what appears to be your analytical self. I would equate that to attempting to organize chaos. These liberals are emotionally driven only and any attempt to understand the random twisted nature of their sporadic “thoughts” will only frustrate one such as you. About the only thing that can come close to explaining these liberals is the group emotion by collectivism. Conservative women do rationalize and have the ability to analyze so they will tend to appear to be more tolerant of issues not that they necessarily are in every case. The current Trump hate emotion within the liberal horde is a good filter to be aware of and I say it is a fortunate thing. Don’t look a gift horse…
They're not liberals, it's like I keep saying on here. They may not think of themselves that way but it's the ideology they follow that does it. These fuckers are communists and they'll kill you. Just imagine if a girl posed in a Nazi uniform or made Nazi dog whistles all the time. It's that bad , just more accepted by society because people don't aren't schooled about commies. But , the end result is the same.
I feel like it's more socially accepted to be liberal than conservative. The conservatives might not want everyone to know their political beliefs.
Many of the woman have identified themselves as conservatives. I understand the social pressure to which you allude but it is far less a factor at my age.
Liberals say they are open minded all the time but they are the 1st to throw hate towards someone. they are some of the most intolerant group of people. if you dont kiss there asses they are the 1st to sling mud and lie. i personally dont understand why anyone in there right mind if want to date a liberal. they should do us all a favor and just make up a website just for liberals. i wouldn't ever date or marry a liberal woman they are filled with hate and intolerance and i dont need that in my life know bunch of you guys are going to bitch and cry i will save you trouble and dont bother.
us Conservative women are more attractive, liberals look like they've been bred from trolls
Humble as well.
Trump is that dispicable to a lot of people. But how is their preference any different than the list of answers you give.. it's exactly the same thing. both are Just a way to cement the polarization that inflicts our politics and lives I have had enough really. Not you O&W you are posing a question to us all.. I get it...
I will venture to say, that most Trump supporters are enchanted and a lot of if not most non Supporters are fervent anti Trumpers extreme left and extreme right Trump in the middle of it. LOL
Trump lives on this conflict and does whatever he needs to to keep it going.. and that is why most Anti Trumpers avoid the enchanted, and I suspect the far right do the same, there will be no civil discourse between the two. Humans are humans and react in a predictable manner for the most part.
The extreme left is as bad as the extreme right and vise versa.
I don't care who you go for, so long as you aren't a racist, a dick to people, and don't try and force your beliefs down other's throats because frankly, all sides have those extremes.
Oh yeah this question isn't slanted or biased at all. In all seriousness thought, i have noticed that there are a lot more people who consider you a trump supporter if you think he shouldn't be assassinated.
I am candidly reporting what I saw when I looked at many profiles. I didn't see a single profile that said 'fuck you if you support Bernie Sanders.' Not one.
Wow I feel sorry for people who actually focus on national politics. Nationally your everyday life is not affected. Open your eyes how is a 2 party system Democratic they are both on the same side. 99% of Americans are purple and have at least one view in agreement for the opposing party.
The correct answer is D, E and F.
Liberals in general today are the most intolerant segment of society.
They are obviously immature if they are going to say something like that in their dating profile.
And in my experience women who are that rabidly liberal tend to have low IQs.
You should try dating in DC or the DC area, Older! It's been polarized since at least Bush 43's first election!
Because the shrieking at the top of their lungs about how much they hate Trump is something that is standard behavior for them.
I can understand not wanting to date someone with opposing political views, but those statements aren't sexy.
Its like half this country is in a trance. At one time you could stand with someone politicaly democrat or republican. Talk intelligently with opposing view points. But under guise of what they call progressive this is no longer allowed. Your either with them or against them and its a shame.
It's because of the abortion issue. If you don't agree with how someone lives their life, why would you want to date them any way? They want a guy that agrees with their fertility choices. 🤷
I dated a liberal for two years and we co-existed very well. I eventually broke up with her for totally unrelated reasons.
If you are extremely radical in your beliefs you can not tollerate opposing arguments. The date would end in a massive fight over Trump most likely. So i don't blame them for putting up a statement but it does show the fragile state they are in as i'd personally be able to date a socialist as long as she respects my views and enjoys a non heated discussion.
It has nothing to do with being a liberal, they are just closed-minded people, which explains why they’re on a dating site in the first place.
There is a strong and unwarranted prejudice against dating sites, but that is another story.
Same with SOME men who say the same thing to feminists or how the never ever would date a feminist. Are these men intolerant now? I think everyone is entitled to their preferences and if you have to many different opinions, it would not work
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, it is EXTREMELY unattractive to define your life with hate and these women seem to be oblivious to that fact.
And why do conservative are hateful to feminists?
Because they overgeneralize and assume that "feminist" means someone who hates men and wants to subjugate the entire sex. The label of "feminism" includes several different groups and one group is quite extreme.
Liberal women are weirdly the most intolerant if you don't agree with all their ways.
Hahaha ok I guess I'll hop back on dating sites. I gotta see this for myself. At first I thought coach was exaggerating a bit when he first mentioned it. It's because these far left women are deranged! Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahah
Because liberal women... And the tolerant left are hypocrites at best, willfully insufferably stupid at worst..
Libtards/Socialists are driven by hate and intolerance.
I like it when a libtard declares their position, because I can avoid wasting time on them.
They're just warning the guy in advance. I think that kind of hate is unattractive if I were to see a guy who says that he hated my party, but then again i would choose not to engage
Why is this a point at all for dating? Online or not!
Ask those women why they need to wear their hate on their sleeve. I didn't make them include those statements in their profile.
Funny you should say that but liberals and democrats are probably the most racist people out there. They say they are open minded but when it comes to practice they are the most racist and vile putrid a human can get.
At least I’m not the only one that’s noticed this in the past few years reading dating profiles, it’s really annoying and immature seeing that in profiles , I never mix politics in my dating life or put anything negative in my profile so it’s best to avoid those women and I’ve never noticed anything about politics or the current president in profiles before Trump became president so that was strange seeing that in the last few years
It's funny how white liberal middle class women benefit more from Trump's style of consumerist capitalism more than anyone else. It's because of people like Trump that hipster privileged liberals can displace minorities in gentrified cities.
These "women" are crazy. Red flag right there and then. Swipe them away.
Well have you ever met a tolerant liberal? I haven't.
All this liberal stuff and conservative stuff is so stupid. I honestly dont understand the war between the two
"Liberals" are notoriously intolerant. Quotation marks because that's not real - classical - liberalism at all.
"classical - liberalism at all." are you referring to liberal capitalists of the past?
@Passinggas Classical liberalism is the Adam Smith kind of liberal. Closely akin to contemporary libertarianism.
@Passinggas Oh right i forgot, nowadays you can't be a liberal unless you're also a marxist. How silly of us.
@Malik00 If it wasn't for the totalitarian nature and objectives of modern liberalism that proposes to take us to a modern version of slavery I wouldn’t have that much issue with it. You have to wonder how can a word such as liberal (implying rights, liberty, freedom) be hijacked so neatly and subversively by Marxism-communism and be packaged for such broad acceptance. Of course the Dems such as Bernie soften the blow by calling it socialism while he leaned all about it living in Moscow in the USSR days in the late 80’s. Again if liberal actually meant liberal, I wouldn’t have issue with it.
@Passinggas You would be amazed how many people would willingly give up their freedoms for free shit or to put it more poetically "Safety and Security"
@Malik00 Yeah, it is pathetic.
I dont know any hardcore liberal people personally. But having seen the absolute insanity that some comment sections are is hilarious and scary because honestly I never thought people could be so out of left field. Not to say there isn't crazy fucks on the right but holy shit. Mention trump and bam head biting commences. Just for your knowledge I'm a libertarian.
Most trump-loving conservative women actively participate in their own gender oppression anyway..
Trump broke the law and the law is the law.. regardless if you’re in office or not. Nobody is above the law.
Conservative women are more rational, less emotional, and just plain smarter than liberal women.
Conservative women are too busy pretending to have self-esteem and maintaining their crippling insecurities to risk pushing away the males their toxic upbringing conditioned them into liking.
After all, those men are the heads of the household, what does a mere stay at home baby maker know about politics to really have a strong opinion about them?
Do you enjoy operating on the basis of prejudices, caricatures, and stereotypes?
@OlderAndWiser
What made you think that I was speaking of stereotypes and caricatures?
I thought it was rather evident that I was referencing the very mindsets and the deep rooted issues of many female conservative users on this particular website.
You thought wrong.
You spoke of conservative women, without qualification or limitation, and you spoke in derogatory terms. Why do so many liberals engage in name calling in almost every political discussion they have?
"Why do so many liberals engage in name calling in almost every political discussion they have? "
Why do so many old conservative farts preach non-judgement and tolerance but then go around all day shaming women for "slut behavior"?
The answer is simple.
You think they don't deserve respect, I think you and the likes of you don't deserve respect.
I can condemn, in my mind, a woman who engages in slut behavior, but I don't chase after such women and tell them that they are sluts. I can condemn homosexual behavior as being a sin but I recognize that it is no worse than my sins and I can be friends with them (and I am. My church is very tolerant and inclusive.)
You can engage in stereotyping - which is how I began this discussion with you - and use those stereotypes to justify your condemnation of an entire group of people. If someone engaged in such tactics to condemn a racial minority, you would be livid. But when you are engaging in the behavior and condemning people you view as enemies, you feel justified. You have much to learn about tolerance.
Merry Christmas!
"but I don't chase after such women and tell them that they are sluts."
Should I link all your posts on questions of numerous female posters on here where you did exactly that?
You come here every day to judge people for their sexual behavior, body modifications, sexual preferences they have been born with, sins you believe they have committed and then employ mental gymnastics to justify how your behavior, the exact kind of intolerance and judgement you vehemently preach against, is not exactly that.
You are one of the biggest hypocrites on this website.
You condemn me for stereotyping groups of people but you can't help yourself blurting out "liberals" and stereotyping entire groups of people whenever someone disagrees with your views mere two seconds later.
I "tolerate you" the way you tolerate those people, by "voicing my disapproval" of the things you do and believe in the same way you "voice your disapproval" of the things you don't believe in.
Except, unlike you, I don't employ mental gymnastics like a broken record to justify that what I do is speaking from a higher moral ground.
Yes, please provide such a link. If someone asks my opinion, I will tell them what I think and I will be quite candid. But I try not to give my opinion when it is not solicited.
You still have much to learn about tolerance.
Merry Christmas!
I'm glad that they post something like that. it prevents me from going to jail after killing them. better to avoid them altogether.
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