I did get vaccinated and a major reason was because wearing a mask was a pain. Also I don't support ether side of the political isle. Because both sides push group think and use The illusory truth effect to push their agendas.
It wasn't politics that made me decide to get vaccinated - I was more interested in what healthcare professionals had to say than what either candidate believed.
You may want to get an antibody blood test first, you can see if you had Covid already. If you did natural immunity is far superior to mRNA vax. Also, later this year Valneva is due to release a vaccine that is a full deactivated virus model. It will offer far better protection than a mRNA vaccine. The mRNA is safe short term, but no one truly knows long term. Realistically it isn't a death sentence, but long term use will damage cells and potentially mutate them. We aren't talking on the scale of one or two shots or on the timetable of a few years, rather repeated use over the course of decades.
@Gravit1 "natural immunity is far superior to mRNA vax." source? "Valneva is due to release a vaccine that is a full deactivated virus model. It will offer far better protection than a mRNA vaccine." source? There are already full deactivated virus vaccines, they're not better.
If you need a fact check on basic knowledge this isn't the place for you. It is not my impetus to prove anything as science only disproves. Your job is to disprove the statement, but you only have the ability to spew propaganda. You can't disprove because you don't understand how antibodies work. A recharge only boost partial immunity. You can crawl back into your covid fallout shelter and tighten your mask.
Since you clearly don't have the reasoning ability for this I will give it to you in numbers. What is 5 - 2? Now how about 5 - 5? You don't realize how this relates to antibodies because you quite simply do not get it. You consume media but you don't process it. Antibodies were question 3 months into the "pandemic" and they are still being questioned now. Did you ever stop to think why is that? Do you not realize it does not take over a year to get an answer back on this? The two main deactivated models came from China. They can make decent products, but are very inconsistent. They tested in the Middle East and Brazil and yielded vastly different results. The test were compromised, anyways you missed the point if you even bothered to do your own research you would have realized that. You don't ask the right questions and that is why you end up in these ruts.
@Gravit1 That's cute, saying I have to prove my claim, when you're the only one making any. The existing deactivated virus vaccines, are not as effective as the mRNA ones. Not bad for a vaccine, but not nearly as effective (in the 60's, not the 90%+ range). And the one you're touting hasn't even finished trials yet, where the others are in hundreds of millions of arms.
@goaded What's even more cute is your inability to understand basic virology. You don't even understand why those test failed and you lack the basic comprehension skills to. You like so many ignorant attempt to substitute data in place of understanding. You clearly have no understanding nor the presence of mind to seek it. You'd do well to stay off the net as you literally have no added value. You clearly are out of your depth.
I already got mine since I work in healthcare. I know my younger relatives in college have to get fully vaccinated before the upcoming fall semester or they won't be able to attend classes.
I voted G but also F. And my views on the jab have nothing to do with politics or Trump. I wasn't a huge Trump fan. I don't take medical advice from corrupt, idiot politicians or TV doctors.
I've held off but am open to it. probably will last minute or for travel or other requirement. I've had heart issues and immune response issues to vaccines... so i see more risk.
I do not support for either major party. I vote with thr underdog indepent parties.
I am over 50 I have never had vaccine in my life and never will. The only way I will get a shot if I am dead and I can't punch the moron in the face. If im dead
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I'm an independent, but I'm going to hold off for another year until I get the vaccine. I have heart problems and I'm just waiting for them to sort out those symptoms with Moderna and Pfizer. I'm still wearing a mask tho..
You are aware that thousands of people have been killed by this vaccine and that there are plenty of medical professionals speaking against the vaccine but are being ignored by the mainstream media?
Yes, on the MHRA's own website in the UK they have the "yellow card system" where people can report vaccine adverse reactions. Almost 900,000 adverse reactions have been reported and about 1,300 deaths. But that's just in the UK. If you add it up globally, then it will add up to thousands.
@Stephen_77 Most of the UK deaths after vaccination occurred in the elderly population and specifically in patients who had a high rate of significant co-morbid conditions, and the reports merely summarized those who died after being vaccinated. Since these people have significant other conditions, you can't assume that the vaccine caused their death. If you take a group of millions of elderly people and don't vaccinate them, some of them will die within the next few days.
Go on Google and type in somethng like "woman dies days after having vaccine" and you will find lots of cases, many of them being health professionals. And these are the ones just reported. Just think of how many other people have been killed by the vaccine that hasn't been reported. And it hasn't even been tested for long term safety lol. But go ahead, keep on taking your death jab.
I believe the 1,300 counts everyone who died within a certain time after receiving the vaccine. It is not limited to cases where the vaccine was determined to be the cause of death. Because the high risk populations got vaccinated first, it is foreseeable that a number of those people would die within 7-14 days after receiving the vaccine. Most of them probably would have died even if they had not received the vaccine.
Your opinion is noted and will be weighed along with the many other responses who were not offended by the question. If the question bothers you, don't respond, but you don't need to tell me to not ask the question because you are protecting others. You are the ONLY person who has objected to the question at all.
I got it - Maderna for BOTH. Zero complication, zero side effects, and no microchip insertions. Although I have more of cravings for Sapporo beer more though...
Statistically, I think I have a better chance recovering from the virus. Also, I find it amazing that the MOMENT Biden wins the election the preventative appears like magic. Coincidence? Eh, I don't think so...
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I did get vaccinated and a major reason was because wearing a mask was a pain. Also I don't support ether side of the political isle. Because both sides push group think and use The illusory truth effect to push their agendas.
It wasn't politics that made me decide to get vaccinated - I was more interested in what healthcare professionals had to say than what either candidate believed.
what if I tell you that those "healthcare professionals" work for those candidates
Same here!
It's actually like... we follow what health care professionals, and scientists have to say.
I’m getting it next month, wait to see how people react before getting mine
You may want to get an antibody blood test first, you can see if you had Covid already. If you did natural immunity is far superior to mRNA vax. Also, later this year Valneva is due to release a vaccine that is a full deactivated virus model. It will offer far better protection than a mRNA vaccine. The mRNA is safe short term, but no one truly knows long term. Realistically it isn't a death sentence, but long term use will damage cells and potentially mutate them. We aren't talking on the scale of one or two shots or on the timetable of a few years, rather repeated use over the course of decades.
@Gravit1 "natural immunity is far superior to mRNA vax." source? "Valneva is due to release a vaccine that is a full deactivated virus model. It will offer far better protection than a mRNA vaccine." source? There are already full deactivated virus vaccines, they're not better.
If you need a fact check on basic knowledge this isn't the place for you. It is not my impetus to prove anything as science only disproves. Your job is to disprove the statement, but you only have the ability to spew propaganda. You can't disprove because you don't understand how antibodies work. A recharge only boost partial immunity. You can crawl back into your covid fallout shelter and tighten your mask.
Since you clearly don't have the reasoning ability for this I will give it to you in numbers. What is 5 - 2? Now how about 5 - 5? You don't realize how this relates to antibodies because you quite simply do not get it. You consume media but you don't process it. Antibodies were question 3 months into the "pandemic" and they are still being questioned now. Did you ever stop to think why is that? Do you not realize it does not take over a year to get an answer back on this? The two main deactivated models came from China. They can make decent products, but are very inconsistent. They tested in the Middle East and Brazil and yielded vastly different results. The test were compromised, anyways you missed the point if you even bothered to do your own research you would have realized that. You don't ask the right questions and that is why you end up in these ruts.
@Gravit1 That's cute, saying I have to prove my claim, when you're the only one making any. The existing deactivated virus vaccines, are not as effective as the mRNA ones. Not bad for a vaccine, but not nearly as effective (in the 60's, not the 90%+ range). And the one you're touting hasn't even finished trials yet, where the others are in hundreds of millions of arms.
www.healthdata.org/.../covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-summary
@goaded What's even more cute is your inability to understand basic virology. You don't even understand why those test failed and you lack the basic comprehension skills to. You like so many ignorant attempt to substitute data in place of understanding. You clearly have no understanding nor the presence of mind to seek it. You'd do well to stay off the net as you literally have no added value. You clearly are out of your depth.
@Gravit1 There you go again.
I haven’t gotten vaccinated for no particular reason.. just been putting it off. I will most likely get it soon though.
I already got mine since I work in healthcare. I know my younger relatives in college have to get fully vaccinated before the upcoming fall semester or they won't be able to attend classes.
I voted G but also F. And my views on the jab have nothing to do with politics or Trump. I wasn't a huge Trump fan. I don't take medical advice from corrupt, idiot politicians or TV doctors.
I've held off but am open to it. probably will last minute or for travel or other requirement. I've had heart issues and immune response issues to vaccines... so i see more risk.
I am a Republican and support Republican presidents and yes I have gotten my two vaccinations the Moderna shot
I do not support for either major party. I vote with thr underdog indepent parties.
I am over 50 I have never had vaccine in my life and never will.
The only way I will get a shot if I am dead and I can't punch the moron in the face. If im dead
I'm an independent, but I'm going to hold off for another year until I get the vaccine. I have heart problems and I'm just waiting for them to sort out those symptoms with Moderna and Pfizer. I'm still wearing a mask tho..
Also don't forget that the vaccine can destroy a woman's fertility, according to medical whistle blowers.
I will get vaccinated because I trust medical professionals, scientists and the history of vaccines over QAnon, right wing memes.
You are aware that thousands of people have been killed by this vaccine and that there are plenty of medical professionals speaking against the vaccine but are being ignored by the mainstream media?
@Stephen_77 Do you have any source that documents "thousands" of deaths cause by the vaccine? I'd like to read it and form my own opinion.
Yes, on the MHRA's own website in the UK they have the "yellow card system" where people can report vaccine adverse reactions. Almost 900,000 adverse reactions have been reported and about 1,300 deaths. But that's just in the UK. If you add it up globally, then it will add up to thousands.
@Stephen_77 Most of the UK deaths after vaccination occurred in the elderly population and specifically in patients who had a high rate of significant co-morbid conditions, and the reports merely summarized those who died after being vaccinated. Since these people have significant other conditions, you can't assume that the vaccine caused their death. If you take a group of millions of elderly people and don't vaccinate them, some of them will die within the next few days.
www.gov.uk/.../coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
@Stephen_77 post a link to your source please
Go on Google and type in somethng like "woman dies days after having vaccine" and you will find lots of cases, many of them being health professionals. And these are the ones just reported. Just think of how many other people have been killed by the vaccine that hasn't been reported. And it hasn't even been tested for long term safety lol. But go ahead, keep on taking your death jab.
@Stephen_77 show ne a link which shows thousands of people are dying, like you said
@Stephen_77 show me a link ir your opinion means nothing
@Stephen_77 post a link or fuk off. Simple
Stephen and even of those 1300 numbers are correct ( which they most likely aren't) that's still less than the amount of covid deaths
I believe the 1,300 counts everyone who died within a certain time after receiving the vaccine. It is not limited to cases where the vaccine was determined to be the cause of death. Because the high risk populations got vaccinated first, it is foreseeable that a number of those people would die within 7-14 days after receiving the vaccine. Most of them probably would have died even if they had not received the vaccine.
Yer sure, just a massive coincidence lol.
@Stephen_77 how many people have died from covid?
I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball. But I do know that hundreds of thousands die from the flu virus every year.
@Stephen_77 and are there more deaths from covid or the vaccine?
Why would a bunch of dead civil war vets need a vaccine?
Why are you asking people this question? It’s really none of your business and quite rude of you to be asking people that!
This is a site where people ask questions. If you don't want to answer, then don't answer. No one is forrcing you to participate.
I said what I said. You shouldn’t be asking people this question.
Your opinion is noted and will be weighed along with the many other responses who were not offended by the question. If the question bothers you, don't respond, but you don't need to tell me to not ask the question because you are protecting others. You are the ONLY person who has objected to the question at all.
Better question to me would be, why won't you get vaccinated?
If and when the Nova-Vax gets through tests, then I might consider taking that. Otherwise, no thank you.
I got it - Maderna for BOTH. Zero complication, zero side effects, and no microchip insertions. Although I have more of cravings for Sapporo beer more though...
Statistically, I think I have a better chance recovering from the virus. Also, I find it amazing that the MOMENT Biden wins the election the preventative appears like magic. Coincidence? Eh, I don't think so...
I don’t really like Biden and trump both of them act like little children
Okay, but the question focuses on the vaccine.
I wouldn’t care who came out with it I’m not getting that shit
I can't stand biden and I support Donald J Trump!! Hell no on the vaccine.
TRUMP 2024!! Make America Great Again