Are we sure we want more political parties?

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That means a parliamentary system where governments are formed with marginal parties.

liggang · Accepted Answer

The only thing that matters is free trade. Free trade is the engine of prosperity. There is no other way.

The socialists and the anti property rights groups (commies anarchists socialists) need to wake up. The far right and the conservatives need to wake up (conservatives pretend to be for free trade).

The only viable party is the liberal party right now. Conservatives across the world are shameful, stupid, pathetic, weak at defending free trade, destroyers of free trade themselves.

My ideal candidate is Javier milei from Chile or whatever country I forget atm. But obviously I'm biased lol.

Ultimately I hope that the liberals can manage to do the things they're trying to do without ultimately leading to economic collapse due to the ever increasing weight of government red tape.

My problem with liberals is they ignore any potential downsides of the implementations of their ideas. For them as long as it sounds moral it's good. Most liberals would be communist if it wasn't for the typical idea that "communism always devolves into authoritarianism."

This is false. Communism fails because controlling the economy causes economic collapse. This is a reality liberals don't want to face because their ideas and their government interventions interfere with the economy.

They want to be able to implement their moral policies and only see benefits.

Luckily I suppose, economists keep them in check. They're being pretty scientific about it. So they haven't collapses the system yet. They've done a good job so far i suppose.

But I really wish they would focus on the downsides and be more honest. They evade rhe downsides out of fear of giving idiotic conservstives any firepower.

The existence of conservatives as they are is just a big black mark on society. Their power is in their ignorance. That is not good. They cause liberals to act stupid in response.

Politics is a big fucking sham too. They're battling and fighting instead of working together. They're scheming and doing weird shit and employing manipulative tactics and searching for loopholes in the system.

The shit is ridiculous. We need a massively simplified system.

WindAtMyBack · Accepted Answer

We have lots of parties, but they are rarely viable. Ross Perot actually had a chance to win, but he made a big mistake toward the end. Even still, he got a large number of votes. It's about money - and Perot was rich and financed his own campaign. Very few people can do that, or are willing to.

There are other problems, like first-past-the-poll voting, but money is probably the #1 issue. The US is very large, and it's very expensive to campaign. The more viable parties you have, the more expensive it will get. It's just not possible to finance a large number of parties.

Personally I think the states should stop letting people vote for president. The presidential campaigns suck up a tremendous amount of money that could be used for other things, including lower level campaigns with multiple parties.

Not letting people vote for president would also lessen some of the divide and political fighting. I'm not sure if people realize that people didn't originally vote for president. States started slowly doing that over the first 80-90 years. I think it's a mistake.

Jessica405 · Accepted Answer

Multiple parties. Anyone should be able to stand for election in a tirue democracy. That person may be part of a party, big or small, and can also stand as on independant.

If UK, the Reform Party has emerged from just a handful of people into a serious contender for second place in the numder of voters. NOT the number of seats in parliament.

The big issue is lack of proportional representation.

FreyaRed · Accepted Answer

Keeping the balance is necessary. It doesn't matter if there are two or more parties, it's necessary those in power are never sure they will win next election. Because if they are sure they will win, they start to become tyrants.

OtterMan68 · Answer

The US is the only democratic republic or parliamentary republic with just two parties in our national legislature.

The two party system has failed. There are a few in the senate who will reach across the aisle, but the house won't. They, especially the GOP, see passing anything bipartisan as win for Biden. Troy Nehls, GOP rep from TX, literally said he would not vote for any bill he thinks would help Biden get re-elected.

Each party wants total control of the White House and congress, and the only thing worse than a 2 party system is a 1 party system.

If no one party had control of either house of congress, they would have to compromise to get anything done.

Imagine how great it would be if the GOP had 40 seats in the senate, the democrats had 40, the libertarians had 10, and the greens had 10. They'd have to form coalitions and would not be able to put party first.

Voting for the democrats or GOP is voting for the status quo: more debt, more deficit, continuing wars, corproate welfare, farm welfare...

Sevenpointfive · Answer

i started looking at 3rd parties once trump didn't become clear on his stance on israel. while i liked RFK's stance i started looking at his campaign advisors. jews, gay tiktokers, protesters, etc. it seemed like a stacked deck against him. too bad.

but if more people stopped dropping out of the race and had a grassroots campaign with that same stance that RFK has running as an independent, then they'd stand a good chance at winning. another problem with RFK's campaign is that it's not "really independent". he was chosen by bernie sanders campaign, after bernie died. so it's a jewish agenda he's running for.

we do not want a jewish agenda. we know how that will end because we are living it right now. i don't want career politicians running this country. i'd sooner vote for my best friend who went into insurance but has a vast knowledge of current events. he'd have a cooler head than any politician i know.

DryGermanGuy · Answer

Putting up this graphic without the historical context is about the most misleading thing one could do:

Telekinetic-Potato · Answer

There shouldn't be any parties. They totally go against what the purpose of how our country is set up.

It's supposed to be people getting elected based on what they believe is best for the country as individuals. And through public debate, finding common ground.

DrPepper12 · Answer

The Constitution is a flawed, dangerous anachronism. Parliamentary is best but you also need other reforms like weighted rank choice voting, public campaign finance, independent redistricting, a progressive tax system, etc. I also fear USA Americans are too stupid to understand coalition govts.

exitseven · Answer

I don;t know. I just know that we cannot have a one party system.

dragoblack · Answer

We need multiple parties, not just the corrupt, 2 party, special interest, cabal. The 2 parties alwaus manipulate the voting process to push out those who are right for office for someone they pick to keep the status quo and to keep people who will manipulate office for their own bank accounts.

goaded · Answer

You'll notice that the Nazis never had a majority until they made all the other parties illegal.

strateguy632 · Answer

this ignores the real way naxi party outlawed others and hurt others. prevent that then no worry.

Juxtapose · Answer

You are misrepresenting this situation as others have pointed out.  More parties is not a bad thing. A two-party system is a cancer.

Dargil · Answer

Multiple parties are why Europe has failed and will be Muslim in 20 years.

CaptainSmartass · Answer

Anne Frankly, I did Nazi that coming... Simples...

msc545 · Answer

We need more and better choices. The current two both suck.

SotiCoto · Answer

Fuck political parties. They're all scum.

Anonymous · Answer

Trump 2024

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