I ONLY want to date younger girls like 10 years younger than myself - is this doable or are my restrictions on my dating life bad?

[Anonymous]

Its a Great Idea - I wish I took that advice

Its a probably Bad idea - but i actually don't know

Its an Awful Idea all around - you won't be happy

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+1 y

Mixed results interesting.

My theory is that the best girls get snapped up between 18 and 25 . Any stragglers past that age are more likely to have issues and any ladies heading into their mid to late 30's are already about done as far as relationships and kids are concerned etc. etc. The same could be said for Men, I'm not sure how tried and true that theory is but it seems to be working. Also around that age they're just more excited about everything it would seem.

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+1 y

Also younger girls just look better most of the time

[nelly83]

I'll be quite honest with you. Most girls in their 20s are really not looking for a man 10+ years older. Most women like men who are older than them by just a few years (less than 10 typically). But there are still a few women out there who like extremely older guys. Its rare but you just gotta find them. Typically a young woman in her early 20s have no reason to go with a guy so much older. So if you want her, you're gonna have to give her a reason such as if you're a wealthy man or a high status man.

But most of us women are smart. We want a guy closer to our age because we are looking for a lifetime partner. There is also gonna be a high chance of divorce down the road when she's 39 and you're 50. You are on your sexual decline while she hits her sexual prime in her 40s. You might not be able to satisfy her sexually. She might still be young and full of energy in her 30s while all you want to do is stay home and read the paper. The nanny phase will also hit her much earlier in life. There are many potential consequence of marrying someone way younger than you. Its the same reason why divorce rates are much higher for these types of couples. All you gotta worry about is if she will divorce you as you get older in life.

[nelly83]

Don't forget about the lack of physical attraction too. By the time you hit your late 30s-40s, you will start to noticeably aging. You will probably lose hair, gain weight, wrinkles. Would your young wife still be attracted to you? Would she end up cheating on you because you just don't look hot anymore?

[nelly83]

You can date a woman 10 years younger with no problem right now. But this might not be the same if you were 50 and she's 38.

[Kdude010]

The same applies to women. Also, women are also on their sexual decline when they're 40 because their fertility window is near closing. Why is it that older women are way more active/desperate seeking men compared to men seeking younger women? because life hits them and they just realized that their fertility window is literally closing so it's not always about sex.

[nelly83]

@Kdude010 Women are the horniest when the hit their 40s. Older women have much higher sex drives than young women. Men's sexual performance declines with age. I know if my husband failed to sexually satisfy me, I would end up cheating on him

[nelly83]

@Kdude010 And also, most men seek women less than 10 years younger than them. The guys who only date 19 yr old girls are simply perverts. Most men aren't like that. If this is the type of guy that you are, then you're are not marriage material. Because nobody looks 19 forever. You will only discard your wife when her looks are out the window.

[Kdude010]

So by your logic, are older women that only date younger men considered perverts too?

Also, You cheating on your husband by the time you're 40 for not being satisfied doesn't look good on your end lol
You'll only be proving that you as a woman are no better than a rag doll sleeping around the town only because you have " high sexual drive".
I wouldn't want that for my worst enemy lol
It is very demeaning and basically shreds all of the positive female ideologies/images that feminists have been fighting for

[nelly83]

@Kdude010
"So by your logic, are older women that only date younger men considered perverts too?"
Who said there were no perverted women? Perverts are those that are abnormally focused on sex. Perverts are 38 yr old men going after 18 yr old girls who they have absolutely nothing in common with. These types of relatoinsihps typically are all about sex and never result in marriage. These types of men are not marriage material either.

And yes, I will cheat on my 55 yr old husband if he cannot satisfy my sexual urges as a 40 yr old. But I would never have been dumb enough to take an old man for a husband anyways. Women who marry men 10+ years older don't know how to think for themselves. The larger the age gap, the higher the chance of divorce.

And no, this has absolutely nothing with feminism. You're just the typical woman hater who looks for every excuse to blame and belittle women. Its part of the reason why assholes like you come onto this website to complain why you can't get women. We've seen way too much of that already

[Kdude010]

"Who said there were no perverted women?"

Your whole rant literally targets only men Lol
Your follow up to this question literally states,

"Perverts are 38 year old MEN going after 18 year old girls"

With no mention of women that are literally doing the same with younger men. So again, are women considered perverts for targeting younger men? Or are you just going to be sexist and leave that label for men?

I can literally use your argument against you. Women come on here to rant about their mere hatred for men. Most of you come here to complain how awful men are in your lives. Men can see through your bs too lol.
Also, Your whole rant literally targets men, yet you seem to love ignoring women doing the same. Just admit that you're just as sexist as those men that you accuse of being sexist, women haters.

[nelly83]

@Kdude010 "With no mention of women that are literally doing the same with younger men. So again, are women considered perverts for targeting younger men? Or are you just going to be sexist and leave that label for men?"

I think everyone likes younger folks. The younger you are, the better looking you are. But it doesn't mean that everyone is interested in dating 18 yr old kids who they have nothing in common with.

"I can literally use your argument against you. Women come on here to rant about their mere hatred for men. Most of you come here to complain how awful men are in your lives. Men can see through your bs too lol."

This question is a hating question on women. You just came on here and supported this question. There are so many woman hating questions on here. No man hating questions. Do you want to see proof? I can attach a link real easy for you to see.

[nelly83]

@Kdude010 Men on here like to brag that they get better looking as they get older while women look worse as they age. The reality is, by the time most guys hit 34, most are balding, gaining weight, white hairs. I have seen a question about this shitting on women. Do you wanna see?

[nelly83]

@Kdude010 there is such a thing called called marrying for money. In this case , it’s just a guy marrying for sex. You can do whatever you want but I’m just setting the cards straight here

[CodyMckiver]

Shut bitch you know you are hitting the experation date , You are way to old for me. A guy my age would never put eyes on an old bitch like you. You clearly are stupid and retard a lot of my guy friends are dating hot sexy 18 years old not a old shaggy boobs and vegina like yours lol

[nelly83]

@CodyMckiver you're older than me. I'm 24. And plus, nobody would want to have kids with an immature child suffering from retardation like you. I wouldn't want some retarded kids. You're so immature a 18 yr old is too old for you

[tallandsweet]

I generally look for men who are up to 15 years older than me and prefer guys who are at least 5 years older than me over men my age.
However, as @sejla already pointed out, a lot has to do with your personality and attitude towards women.

I see nothing wrong with dating outside of what society describes as a normal age range, but your update says a lot about you already: you're applying a double standard when it comes to people your age. You're between 30 and 35 and are looking for women in their 20s. At the same time, you despise women in your age group because they're already "expired" in your opinion. But they're YOUR AGE. Please think about that.

Dating younger girls is doable, especially if you have something to offer other guys don't. However, if your personality isn't fully developed, if you're a boring person, if you put others down or if you simply have some other problems, dating as a whole is difficult for you.

[sejla]

I agree there isn't any wrong with age gap dating in itself it's the motivation behind it.

[tallandsweet]

Thanks for MHO! After givingit more thought, I voted for A, mainly because I feel like it's perfectly feasible. One more question for you, Asker: why does it say "I wish I took that advice" in poll option A?

[Asker]

I think a lot of guys don't date outside a certain age range b/c of the social stigma attached but they probably wish they could. Also I do think the various reasons why a guy might find themselves single at 30 could be largely different from the reasons why a girl would be. Its possible I am making a double standard where there isn't one.

[nelly83]

@Asker, most people don't marry those that are way younger than them due to lack of things in common and differences in maturity. Don't think that every guy in the world thinks the way you do.

[backinblack22]

I’m just like him. Ever since I hit 28 I all if the sudden started dating younger women. I dated a 20 year old for 9 months just 3 years ago. I knew it wouldn’t last but it was a blast while it did. She wasn’t looking for a sugar daddy either. She cooked for me, surprised me once with a dress shirt and treated me out for my birthday. She absolutely loved sex. She was also very fair. But it didn’t end well (some of you girls are going to say “you see you see”). But I don’t regret the experience.

I don’t have anything against women in my age group. I’ve tried going on a couple dates with some. However I was surprised and depressed what bitter shitty and entitled attitudes they can have. It’s like they think acting bitchy makes them look younger. They rather have this conceited pride and stay lonely/frustrated vs taking treating a decent man right and getting over their past shortcomings. This is not all of them though, but TOO many. There is an old saying “good looks will fade but a shitty personality won’t”.

I’m in great shape (got abs still), have a full head of hair and good job. But I know I don’t look as good as I did when I was 25. I’m realistic. But why so many women my own age are delusional is beyond me.

And it’s not all about looks buts let’s face it: men are attracted to youth and fertility. Women care more shot personality and a man’s agency (what he can do). As long as he’s at least semi attractive he has a chance.

I also believe younger women pursue older men EXPECTING them to be respectful and nicer to them than guys their own age. The irony is I have been respectful to women my entire life (my upbringing). But when I was in my early 20s women treated me like shit for it. They were disappointed I wasn’t more of an exciting asshole. Now I fulfill their expectations.

So have fun. But if you do run across a decent woman your age it doesn’t hurt to give her a chance. I would but she better be not like I’ve experienced earlier.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 You can date whoever you want. But just keep in mind the consequences that come along with being in a relationship with a very big age gap. It might not be a relationship that can last forever.

38 yr old guys who date 18 yr old girls get a bad stigma because society knows that a man his age has absolutely nothing in common with someone so young. People know that he's just in it for sex.

[Asker]

@backinblack22 yeah I probably would give ladies my same age a chance if I liked them and I do check ID's lol - I am not actually a player or anything I'm just saying I don't look towards ladies my same age first when I am trying to find the perfect girl friend

[backinblack22]

@nelly83 the 20 year old ended up ghosting me with no warning. In the back of mind I knew it could happen (although I wish it didn’t.). We did date for 9 months

But even with that horrible ending I don’t regret it. It was an awesome experience while it last. She did say several times (first) that she was in love. But again I knew that was her schoolgirl fantasy and not solid.

And the only people who gave me shit about it was of course: middle aged women. Surprise surprise.

[backinblack22]

Older men have been pursuing younger women for all of human history. Now does that mean a 45 yr old man should pursue a 16 yr old girl. Fuck no. But it wasn’t until very recently did all this make creep shaming bullshit come on.

Loud fat, old and ugly middle aged feminists started pushing this creep shaming crap in the 60s and 70s. You will notice the first people to criticize older men with younger women are almost always middle aged women.

As long she is legal and it’s consensual I say STFU. Men enjoy very few double standards in western society but when it comes down to it a man is 30s and 40s will almost always have an easier time getting women in their 20s than vice versa. This whole so called “cougar” trend was pushed by feminists to make middle aged women feel better about themselves. In reality I don’t see that happen very often at all. It does happen but there really aren’t too many finch and stifler’s mothers out there (if you remember the old movie American pie)

What I just said is going to piss a lot of women off on this take, but it’s true. .

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 I think society is overhyped on trying to make older guys more attractive than they really are. When most men hit 34, they start balding , gaining weight , white hairs. Men that still remain attractive at 34 are just have lucky genes. Personally I am 24 and I wouldn’t date a guy over 31. I still want to remain attracted to my husband by the time I marry him, 5-6 years later. I don’t want to be 29 years old and wed a man with white hairs and wrinkles.

But quite honestly most folks are very shortsighted nowadays. Anyone who looks hot can score a date regardless of their age but nobody ever thinks about whether or not they would still be attracted to their partners 5 years later. Men like you, desire excitement and curiosity in women but never thought about whether or not she will still remain as Child like curious and excitement 5 years later.

Why not look for an attraction that will last? people divorce when they marry for reasons other than compatibility and longevity. Try to think long term success of a marriage.

[Asker]

@nelly83 the statistics of successful marriages in what I've read seem to show that marrying girls before their mid twenties more often leads to longer lasting unions. The numbers don't turn around again untill they're far past their dating prime. If a guy is young looking enough and athletic enough I think it behooves a guy at 30 to try and date girls as young as possible to best their chances of success and yeah it won't be many girls bag. I'm sure plenty of girls will reject old guys on age but not all.

[nelly83]

@someone, Not all research studies are true. I came across a research study that said that men are most attractive at age 50. Meanwhile most guys at 50 are balding, losing hair , pot bellies.

Most women do not marry in their early 20s. I doubt any woman wants to marry in their early 20s either. At that age, she really has not dated enough guys to find the right guy for her.
Most women marry in their late 20s to early 30s

[nelly83]

There is a reason why almost half of all marriages end in divorce. People are short sighted and impulsive in selecting their partners. They look for temporary things and instant gratification rather than sustainable long term happiness

[backinblack22]

@nelly83 by the way i still got a six pack and full head of hair.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 You're 34, in two years, you will be out of your prime.

[backinblack22]

@nelly83 oh? So should I say to every woman that hits 30 she’s immediately out of her prime?

I sense some very deep hatred in you. You did well guising it in the early but as we go deeper and deeper you make this more and more personal.

No shit I’m going to get older and I already know that I don’t look as good as I did at 25. But I also find it ironic I have an easier time dating women in their 20s now than I did when I did when I was in my 20s. I just hooked up with a 24 yr old last night. It was my idea to go on a first date (treated her well) but she’s the one that invited over her house. She brought me back to her room. She was even nice enough to give me a ride back home (I took a Lyft there because I’m traveling).

Will this last forever? No of course it won’t. But I don’t mind enjoying it while it does.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 dude , a man’s looks peaks at 32. Then it goes downhill from there. By the time he is 35, he is noticeably aging and by the tine he hits 36, he is out of his prime. Anything further than that would be old man hood.

This is just to counter your hatred towards women on here. With that kinda nasty attitude , it’s unlikely you will get married anytime soon

[tallandsweet]

@nelly83 @backinblack22 mentioned that he's actuallly 28.

[tallandsweet]

38* sorry

[nelly83]

@tallandsweet, he's not getting married anytime soon with his hate filled, raging anti woman rants all over this website. Many folks tend to have given up on dating by the time they hit their 30s. This guy knows he should give up but he just doesn't want to accept it.

[Pocahontas2000]

@backinblack22 Women are also attracted to youth and fertility.

[Anonymous]

It's doable, I know guys who do that.

For the average man though, which most people assume that you are which is the reason they're saying that it's unlikely to work, they can't. If that's you then yeah, they're right.

If you want to date a younger woman, you'd better be in very good shape, healthy, and have your shit together. You have to have a lot going for you.

Another reason women will tell you that it's not doable is not only because they don't understand why you'd want a younger woman, but also because they don't like the idea of a man preferring younger women knowing that one day they'll be older. That's why they're calling you a pervert and accusing you of being predatory. What's funny is that they're basically saying that younger women are stupid. At the same time, if a 25 year old woman expressed a preference for an older man in his 30s of course they'd have no problem with that at all. I find it pretty funny how women lose their shit when men have certain standards.

[VIVANT]

It’s not a standard it’s living in never land

People do age. He Doesn’t want a ten year age difference he wants a25 year old. When he is 49 he is not gong to suddenly want a 30 year old. He will still want a 25 year old.

If he wants a 25 year old he can’t ever maintain a relationship. 25 only lasts a year..

Most people are not that dumb.

[Opinion Owner]

@VIVANT

I know people who've done this, so it's not living in never land.

Yes, he does. If I were looking for a single woman, especially one with whom I wanted to build a family with, I wouldn't look for a woman over 25. I have my family anyway, so I'm not.

You only think it's dumb because as a woman, you don't understand it. And also because as a woman, you think that only a woman's standards matter.

That doesn't mean that I wouldn't expect her to age, or that I'd "trade her in for a younger woman" further down the line. Not at all. That would be retarded. The main reason men would rather start a family with a younger woman is really about fertility, which begins to decline after 25. If you want multiple, healthy children, it's better to be with a woman in her early 20s. For the woman, past 30 the likelihood of that goes down.

[nelly83]

I think that most men prefer being able to have something in common with their wives than just a hot 18 yr old girl. This explains why most couples are no more than 10 years apart. The larger the age difference, the less you will have in common. Not every guy goes for looks, there are men who value connection too.

[nelly83]

I honestly think nothing you're saying is true because most women marry in their late 30s to early 30s. Its pretty much proof that men are still willing to date when until their late 20s.

[nelly83]

typo: I honestly think nothing you're saying is true because most women marry in their late 20s*** to early 30s

[nelly83]

I wouldn't want to date a guy who only dates 19 yr old girls. If my husband only has eyes for me if I'm under 25, that's not a man worth keeping. He'll just cheat on me for a younger woman and call me an old bitch by the time I'm 30.

[Opinion Owner]

@nelly83

Women just don't seem to understand it. Either that or you're being dishonest here.

[backinblack22]

It’s because women want EVERYTHING. Dating in general favors them but this one of the only few areas it favors men.

An older man will me able to get a younger women much easier than vice versa. It also touches on their deep insecurities of losing their sexual power with age (ovaries have short lifespans).

As long as the older guy is respectful and the relationship with the younger woman is consensual than women just need to STFU about what they do. Its no ones business.

[Opinion Owner]

@backinblack22

Exactly. It's almost the equivalent of men who maybe see a woman say that if she wants to marry and have a family with a guy, she's gonna choose a guy who is financially stable, and guys getting mad at that calling them gold-diggers and whatnot.

All of these arguments tend to be about trying to influence people of the same sex to avoid people who have the kinds of standards that the person doesn't like, and trying to influence people of the opposite sex that they shouldn't have those standards.

[backinblack22]

And modern women have the immense power of the mass media, entertainment industry, lunatic politicians and the public education system behind them on this one. They have much more leeway to say whatever the fuck they want without consequence.

If you want to make a moral argument about older men dating legally younger women that’s one thing. There are going to be challenges and it’s unlikely to end well. Also if I had an 18 year daughter dating a 35 year old man I would be pissed.

But legally speaking an 18 year is an adult and can consent to sexual relationships with anybody 18 and over. Some of these sneering bitches (not you @VIVANT) are calling the question asker a “pedophile”. It’s a typical example of how many women have no limit when it comes to tearing into guys they don’t like. They can’t separated fact from emotion.

[backinblack22]

Actually @VIVANT I just realized you seconded that troll’s post about this guy being a “pedophile”. Nice going, like really. Awesome job debating fairly here.

[VIVANT]

@backinblack22

Oh no, I never supported him being a pedo

I was saying everything he said was an attack. You told her she was low for attacking him. That was the basis of his entire sermon. To attack.

He died hood a moral high ground against attack. Doesn’t mean I think he’s a pedo. I don’t. I think he’s naive rude and too presumptuous for his own good.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 I spoke with you in our last thread. With your attitude hating on women, there's no chance you will get a girlfriend anytime soon. Your time is also ticking. If you hate women so much, I don't know why you would even still bother dating.

[nelly83]

@Opinion Owner, I'm not being dishonest because most women do get married in their late 20s or early 30s. So don't tell me that only 20 yr old women are datable. Most people pick partners no less than 10 years apart. And the reason is obvious. Its difficult to find something in common with someone so much younger. Its unlikely an 18 yr old is gonna have something in common with a 49 yr old man.

And if looks are so tremendously important to you. I would be very fearful of the day when I no longer look 24. You are not marriage material. Most people are NOT like you. There are many old guys out there who cheat on their wives cuz she no longer looks 19. 5 years into the marriage, she is 30 years old and you are already having the wandering eye. That's really not good news.

Someone like you will find yourself divorced, sometime down the road.

[Opinion Owner]

@nelly83

Here's what I replied originally to VIVIANT:

"That doesn't mean that I wouldn't expect her to age, or that I'd "trade her in for a younger woman" further down the line. Not at all. That would be retarded. The main reason men would rather start a family with a younger woman is really about fertility, which begins to decline after 25. If you want multiple, healthy children, it's better to be with a woman in her early 20s. For the woman, past 30 the likelihood of that goes down."

It's not all about looks, nor is it a way to justify a man being disloyal and either cheating "trading a woman in for a younger model". I agree that that's fucked up. It's really about the way men choose a single woman to settle down with.

Many people do get married in their late 20s and early 30s. People get married even later on. That's up to them. I'm not saying that women over that age are un-dateable to all men everywhere. That would also be ridiculous. I'm saying that for me, personally, I wouldn't look for such a woman. Single mothers aren't un-dateable to many men, when I was a childless single man I personally wouldn't date or marry a single mother. Women with high numbers of sexual partners aren't undateable to many men, I wouldn't date or marry a woman with a high number of sexual partners. That's literally all I'm saying.

[nelly83]

@Opinion Owner, I've seen many questions on here about A 35 yr old man only wanting to date 18-20 yr olds. As ridiculous as it sounds. Firstly, a 35 yr old man has nothing in common with a kid that young. This is why these types of guys get such a bad stigma in society. Society knows that when you go after 18 yr old kids, you are just after their bodies, not for them. And this is why these types of guys are called perverts. Its understandable that younger people look better. But when you're 35 yr olds and you're going after kids that you have absolutely nothing in common with, that is a BIG red flag. Fertility is not the reason why you are going after these girls. Everyone knows that you are just after their bodies. When you value looks over a genuine connection, its pretty much an indicator that you will simply discard your wife once she loses her looks.

MOST WOMEN GIVE BIRTH IN THEIR LATE 20S AND 30S. Their husbands are completely ok with their wives birthing at that age.
Nobody gets married in their early 20s. So If you're acting as if women are expired after their early 20s, the problem is YOU, not them. Because almost nobody gives birth in their early 20s. We are all in college, enjoying our youth, having fun.

You need to start respecting women as people rather than seeing them simply as sex machines. Most men are NOT like you. Most guys will happily marry a woman in her late 20s or early 30s. Realize that your preferences are only yours alone. Don't come on here and insist that you have the only truth on earth.

[nelly83]

Plus the overwhelming majority of young women under 25 have no interested in dating a man 10 or more years older than them. So if you’re a 34 yr old looking for 18 yr old girls, you would have a really hard time. These types of relationships always end up just being about sex and manipulation.

[nelly83]

There is such a thing as marrying for money. But in this case , it’s just a guy marrying for sex

[Opinion Owner]

@nelly83

Eh, I still think you're misunderstanding the things I'm saying and that you're making a lot of silly, completely inaccurate assumptions about me. This is all pretty funny to me anyway.

I don't have a problem, I don't need your advice, nor do I care about what most men or women do. All I know is that what I did was find my girlfriend when she was 20, had 3 kids with her from the age of 22, we have a great relationship and all is good and neither of us are going anywhere. Exactly like I said.

[nelly83]

@Opinion owner, most people would prefer to marry someone they can love and connect with instead of some hot bimbo who can just pump out a few kids. Most men are not like you.

People marry for love, not for sex. Overwhelming majority of women do not want to birth or get married in early 20s. So if you want a 19 yr old who wants your baby, it’s gonna be almost impossible.

[Opinion Owner]

@nelly83

Do you even read my replies or do you just see a notification and decide to continue to spout all of this nonsense?

[nelly83]

@Opinion Owner, I do read your shit. All I'm seeing here is a man who doesn't see any value in women but only as sex machines. Don't think you're all precious because you're the type of guy that I would avoid dating at all costs , at any age. You are not marriage material and you have no respect or consideration for women. I would never let my future daughter ever marry a guy like you.

[Opinion Owner]

@nelly83

Ok, so so far I've said that I think that cheating is fucked up, being disloyal is fucked up, that I love my girlfriend, that she's not a dumb bimbo, that the relationship is great.

... And you're still talking about me not being able to find a 19 year old woman to marry, that I don't respect women, that I only want women for sex, that you wouldn't marry me, that your daughter wouldn't marry me etc. Trying to frame all of this in the way you ant to frame it. All of it either completely false or completely irrelevant. You're either being dishonest here or you're an idiot. Perhaps both.

[nelly83]

@Opinion Owner, a 19 yr old is a kid. She knows nothing about the real world and is still growing into an adult at that age. You can choose whatever you wanna do. But dating a kid as a 30 yr old man shows a lot about you already. If looks are more important than a genuine connection, you're not marriage material. there's no reason you would want to marry a kid. You have nothing in common with them. You're just with her because of her body. But hey, nobody said you can't marry for sex.

19 yr olds do not want a child because they are still immature children themselves. Why get tied down with 3 kids at 19 when you can enjoy youth and have fun? Kids at 19 are in college, enjoying friends, exploring what the world has to offer. Rather than to be cooped up in a stuffy house, no friends, only 3 crying kids all day. She has no education, no job skills so she can't even divorce her husband , if she needs to. Its all a very sad state of affairs.

And if she had kids at 19, she had absolutely chance to date around until she meets the right husband. She just had kids with the guy closest to her, whom she might end up wanting to leave later in life.

I see nothing but just disadvantages to all of this. Its a very sad story. But it doesn't happen to most 19 yr olds. Most older guys wouldn't take a 19 yr old for a while anyways.

[nelly83]

@Opinion Owner, all throughout this conversation, I am only talking about reality while you're just talking in your imagination. I wouldn't consider someone like you to be marriage material at all. You don't respect women. Otherwise you wouldn't force girls to give up their youth, tie them down with 5 kids at 18. You also would understand that the secret to a successful marriage is NOT looks over a genuine connection. You also seem to have a problem accepting that women are not sex machines.

And yea, its true 19 yr olds do not want kids. This is almost all of them. I've been 19. I know what they are like.

Enough said. I've been logical enough. You're just gonna attack anything else I have to say cuz you're too hurt about being called a not marriage material. Have a good life marrying for SEX.

[Opinion Owner]

@nelly83

The only one getting emotional here is you, that's why you either can't or pretend not to understand what I'm saying. You haven't been logical at all. Like I said right at the end of my answer, many women lose their shit when men have certain standards, just as you have done here. It's literally just "OMG you have standards I don't like so you don't respect women and you're an asshole". That's all it is.

You say "force" a girl to marry and have kids. "Force"? You think I "forced" a woman to marry me? Really? Of course not. This is what I mean by emotional nonsense and dishonesty.

I say "I love my girlfriend, she's not a dumb bimbo, she's not just a sex machine". You respond to that with "you seem to have a problem not seeing women as sex machines and you don't think genuine connection matters". That's why I asked if you even read my comments. Again, emotional nonsense, dishonesty.

Then, despite me saying all of that to you, you say I'm hurt because some idiot on GAG who can barely even read said that I'm not marriage material. Yeah, ok. Absolute moron lol.

[backinblack22]

@nelly83 “With your attitude hating on women, there's no chance you will get a girlfriend anytime soon. Your time is also ticking. If you hate women so much, I don't know why you would even still bother dating.”

Nice. You know what you got some sort of deep fucked up issue that has lead you to such hateful disgusting condescension. If you were so happy with your life you would have never dripping disdain.

Yeah you are young. But you won’t be forever. And if you treat men like this karma will bite you in the ass at some point. I lost like see you in your mid 30s alone, angry and bitter. You can say the same thing about me but the key difference is I don’t have your piece of shit attitude. I almost feel sorry for you. You must hate yourself that much to talk to someone else like that. Best of luck.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 "
Nice. You know what you got some sort of deep fucked up issue that has lead you to such hateful disgusting condescension. If you were so happy with your life you would have never dripping disdain. "

Hun, I have great disdain for your nasty attitude. How do you expect me to be smiling at you and complimenting you if you're hating on me and my gender? And why would you still try dating if you hate women so much? Every sentence you have written on here is a hate rant on women. You seem like you want to kill all women as if they are unworthy of existing.

here's some advice: Just stop dating. If women are so evil and disgusting, just stop looking towards women. It'll give you so much more peace and serenity.

I won't have to read your angry, Bullshit rants anymore. And I won't have to argue with your non sense. When you put out negativity, you will only get negativity in return.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 I think that you know its time to stop dating. You know it but you just don't want to accept it. Women can sniff out an anti woman douche from far away.
I've never had a hard time attracting a guy. So don't try to say that I'm worse than you. By the time I get to 34, I will be married with children.

[Majestical_Psyche]

I've had friends who did the same thing.
Personally, I prefer women that are older than me.

Just, please, Make sure she is the legal age!!! Don't be dumb.
Also, don't be a jerk, Be loving.
"""Friendship and similar interests will make it last"""
Remember that. <3

Love you bro, and good luck!!! <333

[backinblack22]

That’s interesting you like older women. And he’s he better check IDs. Ignorance won’t keep him out of jail.

[sejla]

Your opinions on 30+ women might actually shoot you in the foot with younger women. Women generally don't like men who speak disparagingly about other women. It's sort of red flag.

[MzAsh]

Yep. Especially since those younger girls know that they’ll someday soon be older too, and they don’t want to have to worry about being 35 and wondering if their old man wants to trade her up for a new young girl again. You can’t trust a guy like that.

[ZELLxoxo]

This is true.

[nelly83]

@MzAsh A lot of these old guys who only want to date 19 yr old girls are perverts. These guys are not in any way shape or form marriage material. These are the types of old guys who cheat on their wives because they're not hot anymore

[sejla]

@nelly83 It's called dating while married. There are a lot of you tube video promoting 40+ should only date a woman under 30 preferably no older than 25. It doesn't take into account that not every 25 year old wants to date someone that old. And these you tubers even say once you get the woman don't agree to anything you don't want to. It's very superficial dating.

[MzAsh]

I know when I was 25, I was NOT looking at men over 30. That’s for certain.

[sejla]

@MzAsh At 18 for some reason I thought 32 was old. I, also, was a bit unnerved because at 18 I looked like I was 15.

[MzAsh]

Cody no woman in her right mind is going to want a sub par, shallow male who’ll just wants to dump her on her 26th birthday. As if you can even afford to do that because we all know women always have more options and interested candidates than men do. Always.

[sejla]

@MzAsh The funny thing is the men who want to date down don't realize that there are a lot of younger men willing to date up. I think it all evens out in the wash.

[nelly83]

@CodyMckiver Don't think you're so desirable because you're likely the 48 yr old man who cheats on his wife because she's no longer 20 years old.

[backinblack22]

He’s not going around saying this out loud. Men are not allowed to speak about this and many other things (vulnerabilities) without losing face anyway. But I get your point. He needs to keep his agenda under wraps or women will get turned off.

With that said I think his confession here is touching on my older women’s insecurities.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 Its not appealing for young women to hear either. I don't think any woman would want a man to be staying with her as long as she looks hot.

[MzAsh]

Well here’s my confession. I’m 35 and still hot as hell, as are many women my age. I regularly have 20 years olds interested in relationships but I’m very much taken. A guy with his attitude needs to be called out for what it is: he wants women young and most importantly... dumb. Dumb enough to fall for his bs.

[backinblack22]

@MzAsh well good for you. But again some of the worst dating experiences I’ve had in my life were with women around our age. I can list off all the incidents if you are curious. Yes many younger women can be naive. But they are also more curious and for the most part, more fun. Looks are part of it I confess, but not all of it.

Too many women my age feel like acting bitchy is “one for the team”. That is someone else screwed them over when they were younger so okay to screw me over to “even the score”.

That’s a generalization of course and I bet there are plenty of exceptions. But I seriously don’t know what the fuck is wrong with the 30something women I’ve met. They think ghosting, friendzoning or just being plain rude to men who did nothing bad to them is okay. It’s not.

[backinblack22]

I would think they would grow up and instead they act like Benjamin button. I sure as hell act and say things differently now then I did at 22.

[MzAsh]

There are women who age and grow up and some that age and just grow bitter. Just like with men. Life is hard for most of us in different ways but it’s how you deal with it that matters.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 I think the curiosity and excitement for life wanes for all of us. I used to be super excited and happy at 20 until I found out how difficult adult life was. Now I’m not anywhere close to the same person as when I was 20. You need to realize that all that you’re wishing for is just temporary. Your 20 yr old girlfriend will not be the same person at 25.

[backinblack22]

@nelly83 she wasn’t the same at 22. I ran into her at the gym a year and half later. She gained 20lbs, got fake tits and plastered on make up. She looked like a pathetic fat whore. For a split second I felt sad but then I felt much better. This is the girl who ghosted me after 9 months.

With that said I can compartmentalize the good memory from the present moment. I think women have a harder time doing that.

Again I don’t regret it. She treated me better than 90 percent of women my own age treated me when we were dating. This is my experience with women in their 30s:

- 32 year old woman flakes out on going to a sublime and Rome concert I bought 80 dollar tickets for. I talked her for weeks to make sure it was kosher. Day off she flaked.
- 31 year old woman walked on me after talking 10 mins on a date (we met on bumble). She showed up to the date tired from hiking (my fault right) and then said she had to use the bathroom. The conversation started awkward but I did NOT bring up sex or say anything insulting.
- has a 31 year old woman stand me up for a date that I met IN PERSON AT WORK. She just got laid off and I was going to chat with her for advice. All her communication was pleasant until the night of the date. We were supposed to meet at 8 and 815 she texted me saying she couldn’t make it. I already traveled 15 miles to the location and spent time getting a table.
- a 35 year old woman assumed I was okay with the 100% friend zone after we briefly dated 3 years earlier (messed around but not all the way). She was always a bit flaky. She showed up in my home state unexpectedly after her dog died. I invited her over my families house for the 4th of July. I overheard her asking me brother and sister in law if she could crush on their sofa (she was supposed to go to my place). She ended up going to my place and asked me “where I’m going to sleep? (I don’t want to sleep with you)”. We ended up sharing my bed but I didn’t try anything.

[sejla]

@backinblack22 Sounds a string of bad luck. i think a lot of people have bad experiences dating within their age group. A man my age told me similar dating experiences except his had to do with being asked to do handyman jobs but being stuck in the friend zone.

[backinblack22]

What the hell is wrong with women 30 and older STILL thinking that men are okay with the friend zone? It’s one thing if a young naive girl makes that mistake. But older women should f*cking know better. Older men at least have a better idea of what women want. They at least know women don’t like being insulted (and the assumed friend zone is a huge insult).

I also forgot to mention I dated a 31 year old a little over a year ago. Went on 5 dates and we hooked up. But on the second date she started crying about her ex fiancé who cheated on her. Then she asked to be “just friends” (we had sex on the first date). I immediately very loudly and very clearly said NO. I don’t accept that. We went on three more dates and the she texted me she didn’t want to this anymore but had the gall to ask “to be friends” again. I refused and this time I was livid.

[backinblack22]

All the disrespect I got from these women boiled down to one thing: me being a nice guy. That was the bottom line disgusting horrible real reason.

I can see inexperienced and immature young women doing this but women my fucking age thinking this is okay? Ironically younger women friend zone me less than older women. Go figure

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 I don't think you can generalize all the time. There will always be shitty and good people at every age.

[sejla]

@nelly83 agreed there are stereotypical behavior for each age group and you will find people who match that behavior. Like men over a certain age can't perform any more or are just grumpy. Some are and some aren't.

[backinblack22]

@nelly83 yes that’s true. But when you see the same pattern in a group of people (especially after it happens 3 or even fucking 4 times in a row) you begin to wonder.

I’ve met stupid younger girls as well. But that’s more to be expected. Some can be big time freeloaders

[backinblack22]

I’m dropping the f bomb more than I should. But I had some of the worst dating experiences of my life in the last few years with women in their 30s

[MzAsh]

I jus think you’re going on looks and not personality. That’s why you’re ending up with shitty women. I mean I have no sympathy for those who have sex in the first days then whine that something went badly.

[sejla]

@backinblack22 I think dating is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack. 3, 4 or even 10 times might not be that unusual.

[nelly83]

Personally, I think any guy who is still single and over age of 35 is already kind of a red flag. Maybe part of the reason why those women in their 30s are still single is because they have issues.

[nelly83]

From my experience, those who are still single in their mid 30s usually have a big explanation for why they are still single.

[backinblack22]

@nelly83 “personally I think any guy who is single over 35 is a red flag”.

Okay you really need to take a deep look and reevaluate your thought process on that. Young men are required to be more than just good looking to get women. Some young men completely focus on their careers and hobbies to make their way while they were young. I did professional mma AND I had a white dollar career in my 20s. I completely worked my ass off and had little time to date and socialize. I did get flings here and there but I just didn’t make my social life a priority.

Many young men want relationships but they don’t have the social skills or experience to understand women. If they are good looking it doesn’t matter much if they are introverted. (And many introverted guys are very smart and good at other things). Most women take mental
shortcuts when evaluating guys. The first impression is the only impression that matters.

Young women on the other hand will always have men approaching them if they are at least semi attractive. It might not be the type of men they want, but they have OPTIONS. As long as they look good, dress semi decent and not panhandling on the street there will always be man around the corner.

Right now you don’t how much dating power you have until it’s gone. But do not assume that dating for guys is the same is at is for women. It’s absolutely not. And some guys are late bloomers. Some guys want a relationship but have been jaded.

by the way I’m really 38. I was in a relationship with a 26 yr old last year who had deep psychological issues stemming from a sexually/physically abusive family. After a month of contemplation I very carefully, respectfully and calmly broke up with her face to face.

[backinblack22]

She went ballistic, yelled, screamed, threw things. Then she tried to kill herself by laying out on the street so a car would hit her. Her grandma and I had to call the cops and have her detained.

So I’m single right now. If you met me would you automatically consider me a “red flag”? Look at the details and background first (and women say men are judgmental)

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 You need to realize that not all women have men approaching them. A large majority of women rarely ever get approached. And frequently these men approaching women are below her league. Nowadays, modern women do a fair amount of approaching and starting conversations with guys too. With every married man, there's always a taken woman. So you can't say that since women get approached, there should be more married women than men.

By the time a man or woman hits their mid 30s, they should already have had around 4-10 relationships. If you've dated 6 people and nothing has ever worked out, then it may be a good indicator that there is something wrong. Personally I don't go out with guys that has a lot of exes. Any more than 6 is already a red flag.

[sejla]

@backinblack22 I think you are right most men don't get all their ducks in a row career wise and maturity wise until late 20s early 30s. Then they might think they want a more serious relationship. It's pretty normal. 38 and 26 really isn't a significant age difference.

[nelly83]

For me, Leisure is very hard to come by. Most of us adults have very little free time because we all work long hours, have responsibilities, graduate school to attend, professional certifications to pursue. If I see any potential for failure, its unlikely that i would pursue the relationship or friendship. If I'm gonna invest my time into someone, I better gain something out of it. Its no longer like middle school dating where we have all the free time in the world. Dating is a luxury, not a hobby.

[backinblack22]

You are definitely more experienced and wise compared some of the comments I’ve seen from other young women on here. It can take some women a very long time to learn.

[nelly83]

@sejla, Most 26 yr old women would find a 38 yr old too old for them. Might not be too old for you, but it is to most younger women. A 30-33 year old would be more fit

[backinblack22]

@nelly83 you have quite a “check list” for a man don’t you? Well this guy doesn’t exist or if he does he might be interested in you or taken.

Quit it with the numbers please. I’ve only been 3 long term relationships in my life. In my 20s I never had a relationship go past 6 months. 9 out of 10 times it was the girl breaking it off back then.

I can agree that less men might be approaching nowadays. But all this metoo bullshit and/or rude rejection doesn’t help with that either. It can make good guys paranoid.

With that said I’m still not afraid to approach women. Just a few days ago I got in a good conversation with a 23 yr old female Lyft driver from Serbia (she’s cute). During the ride I carefully evaluated her voice tone because I was debating asking her number to check out a local museum (she mentioned museums first). I asked her if she like to check it out with me and she said yes without hesitation. We actually have plans tonight (hope she doesn’t flake).

But again that was a gut check for me. I’ve heard all these stories about female drivers complaining about creepy male passengers. That’s the last guy I want to be, but I took a risk.

Men have to take RISKS. Women do too but men much more often. That’s something women have a very hard time understanding.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 I have a checklist because I simply do not want to waste energy dating another 3 exes before I find my future husband. Dating is time consuming and requires effort. Adults don't have enough leisure as it is. If I don't see him as husband material or if he has red flags during the first time I meet him, its unlikely I would pursue that kinda relationship. I am very wise and picky wit the people I invest in. In the past, I have invested into the wrong friends and people in life. I just learned from my past mistakes. Not every guy with two hands and legs and a decent face makes a good lifetime partner. I've spoken to enough men in my life on how to assess if a guy is marriage material.

I think that when you're really just playing the lottery when you're approaching random women. If you're lucky, you might find your soulmate. You probably would have much better luck of a long term relationship joining a hobby club since you already would have something in common. And you will also have the chance to get to know several women at once on a much deeper level.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 Honestly I don't think people typically change in life. if you're an asshole in your 20s, chances are you will also be an asshole in your 30s. If you're born a good person, you will always be a good person, for the most part. I'm really not surprised to hear that women in their 30s are bitches or crazy or whatever. there's a reason why they are still single at their age!!

[backinblack22]

@nelly83 I definitely agree with the last part.

by the way I was just as picky as you in my 20s. But it’s not going to work. You will always find a problem no matter what.

[backinblack22]

I ultimately see you falling for a guy who meets not if your checklists. But he will have an angle and will know how to push your buttons. Women usually make emotionally decisions when it comes to dating. That’s why I don’t listen to them when they say “we want this and we want that”. I look around I see them choosing the opposite.

[backinblack22]

I’m also considering getting a hobby but its hard. I work two jobs right now trying to get ahead. I make good money. But I also workout every day. You yourself said “guys in their 30s are banding and getting fat”. I have to go to great extremes to prevent that.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 I definitely understand that there's no such thing as the perfect life partner. I definitely know I will get my buttons pushed by my future husband. But I have enough experience to intuitively tell if a guy is for me or if the spark will remain for the rest of both our lives. Some people can tell, while others can't.

Through this conversation with you, I can tell that you're somewhat of a decent minded guy. I think what you need to focus on is the way you go to meet women. Try to focus on common interests and befriending / getting to know women before you ask them out. By doing this, you save yourself from going out on a lot of dates that lead nowhere. And also don't be too close minded on your requirements. Because there is no such thing as the perfect lady. She might be everything you've ever wanted in a woman but not be the prettiest girl in the room. He might be the perfect guy for me but he's not tall dark and handsome or drives a luxury sports car.

[nelly83]

@backinblack22 "Women usually make emotionally decisions when it comes to dating. That’s why I don’t listen to them when they say “we want this and we want that”. I look around I see them choosing the opposite. "

You don't know me. So you shouldn't make such rash assumptions. One of the things I see about you is that you constantly love generalizing gall women, blaming women for your lack of success in dating. I think its all due to INSECURITY. I don't think any thing you've said was objective about women. You're just emotionally charged due to your frustrations with dating the wrong women.

[sejla]

@nelly83 I probably wouldn't have dated a man who was 38 but as one ages the gaps seem less important. I think going by the age gap formula is the best way to go. I can never remember how it goes. it's like add 7 or subtract something , etc. etc.

To be honest when I was young I was approached by men in their 30s. I thought it was weird because looked young for my age. Now at my age I've been approached by younger men probably because I don't look my age. Again it weirded me out a bit. So from 18 to early 20s I was approached by 30 something men. And in my 50s I was approached by mid 30 to 40 year old men. It's a weird world.

[nelly83]

@sejla, I'll be frank with you. Old men on here are overblowing it that women like men that are 10+ years older than them. The reality is, young women really are not looking for a man so much older. Most of us young women know that there are so many potential consequences of going for a guy so much older. I just don't see much older men as fit to be my lifetime partner. Suggesting that I date a 35 yr old is kind of like forcing a guy to marry an old woman who struggles to give birth. I simply do not see any future. Its simply a recipe for dissatisfaction and divorce. We, young women, are concerned about our futures.

These old guys just like to overblow it that young women like older guys so that also means that a 24 yr old would want to date 40 yr olds. I guess they like to say it cuz it makes them feel better.

Men hit their prime at 32. Then the just go downhill from there. By the time they hit 35, there will be very obvious signs of aging. At 36, they are out of their prime. Anything over that is old man hood.
I've also seen many guys who have gone BALD or losing hair at 33. You only get to look good in your 30s, if you have the right genes.

[nelly83]

@sejla, Right now, I would not date a guy over age of 32. I don't see a future with a guy any older than that.

[backinblack22]

And you know that’s fine. But quit getting all bitchy towards guys who do date younger women and younger women who like them. That’s not all girls. If I get a hint a younger girl is uncomfortable with me chatting with her I move on, quick. But sometimes it does work and it’s none of your business to judge when it does.

[sejla]

@nelly83 The problem is the American diet and with so many men eating badly their health is at risk. When a woman wants kids in the future they want a life partner who can raise kids together and have a long life together. If a man is not healthy at 35 it isn't going to get better if he won't make changes. And men generally die younger than women. By the time one gets to be about my age and older the number are very unbalanced. At one point it's 1 man to 4 women.

I personally would not start a relationship with anyone younger who hasn't done what they want to do. Get married, have kids, etc. I had my child at 38. That part of my life is over of course.

The problem is all the you tube channel speakers promoting date younger.

[nelly83]

That's right, men generally live shorter lives. Imagine what my life would be like if I married a man 10+ years older. I might spend the last 29 years of my life being a widow

[nelly83]

When I pick a man to date, I want to make sure that I will still be attracted to him 5-6 years later. I'm not attracted to men with white hair, and wrinkles.

[sejla]

@nelly83 I started going gray at 25 lol. I have a hard time telling the ages of men in some racial groups because they age slower.

[CodyMckiver]

@MzAsh I would never date an old bitch like you , you have shaggy boobs and shaggy vagina.

[MzAsh]

You could never get close enough to me to find out.

[CodyMckiver]

@MzAsh Really 20 year old chasing after? Bitch stop lying , no 20 year old guy will never be interested in your old ass lol

[CodyMckiver]

You are fuck 58 what are you jelly that a 25 year old is better then you. Lol

[nelly83]

@CodyMckiver A 25 yr old would be unlikely to want to date a 35 yr old. Most 35 yr old guys are gaining weight, losing hair, saggy balls, some of them already bald at 32. Just wait till you hit 35, you will know what im saying.

[sejla]

@CodyMckiver I was trying to decipher what you meant. I personally have never dated any one younger except when I was 27 and the guy was 21. The world is a weird place and I have no clue why things happen sometimes.

[OlderAndWiser]

At your age, you are a leftover straggler with issues. Why would any girl want to date you?

You want to date younger women and I want a date with Kristen Bell. That's not really working very well for me, either.

[ManOnFire]

You actually want younger women? It's the extreme opposite for me. I highly desire older women in their 40s or early 50s. What in the world can a younger woman possibly offer an older man other than sex?

[Account]

Absolutely none of my business.

[slatyb]

Bad idea. Your attitude is all wrong. You talk about women like they are fruit in a market — “the best ones are snapped up”. What about you? You’ve been sitting on the shelf a while. What’s wrong with you? And 18? Seriously? In my experience the 30-somethings who go after teenagers are usually stuck at about 20 and go young because women their age see their immaturity. So they marry some young woman and a couple of years and one or two kids later the woman has grown up and realizes that her husband never will.

[VIVANT]

This ^ 👍🏻👍🏻

[aWes0MeNeSs]

Exactly! I've seen many older guys going after teen girls, and these are my observations:

A) The guy is extremely emotionally immature and can't relate to adults his own age. He is mentally a teen, himself.

B) The guy is a loser who has nothing going for him, and adult women can see through his big talk. Impressionable teenagers cannot. Teenage girls are much more gullible and easy to impress.

C) The guy likes the fact that it's much easier to manipulate teenagers than adult women. They usually lack life experience and are still pretty dependent, so they can usually exercise more control over these girls. Bonus points if the guy starts trying to isolate the girl from her family and friends.

I've never once seen anything good coming from a 25+ guy chasing teenagers. Best case scenario, he's an immature loser, worst case scenario, he's a manipulative predator.

[Silver158]

I'm around your age but apparently look around 25 and have a kinda muscular physique. So I get a fair bit of attention from girls in their late teens/early 20's. In my experience you'll find 1 of 2 things will happen.
They'll give you attention until they find out your actual age then watch them be assholes towards you because telling you they're not interested is clearly too mature for that age group. or,
They'll say they don't mind your age and like older guys or won't make a big deal out of it. Will get what they want whether it be sex or just attention then ghost you.

Unfortunately, age doesn't equal maturity and you'll find that some women around our age up to about 40ish will act like they're 14 trying to get attention from guys to see if "they've still got it" or whatever.

[aWes0MeNeSs]

I completely get what you're saying when people in their late teens and 20's are too immature to just tell you what they really think! It's not even exclusive to dating and telling someone they're not interested; EVERYTHING is a game to this age group! They thrive off of dropping subtle hints and hoping you're a mind reader who will just get it, or tell you exactly the opposite of what they really feel and then just do something that suggests the complete opposite of that. It's exhausting even trying to be friends with many of them sometimes.

[Silver158]

@aWes0MeNeSs Yeah exactly. But like I said you'll find women in my age range behaving exactly like this as well. Trying to hold onto their youth or whatever haha

[aWes0MeNeSs]

Yes, some people never grow up! I know people in their 50's still doing this!

[Anonymous]

Same could be said for men. But the truth is not everyone wants to get married by the age of 25, so if they are single past that age does not necessarily mean they have baggage or relationship issues. They were probably having fun, focusing on their career, no need to jump to conclusions. So what about you? Why should a younger girl want an older man who is also probably damaged from his past?

[Unit1]

Because he has the Money, money, money 💵 💰 😏😏😏
🎵🎶

[Opinion Owner]

@Unit1 and then later he will complain his girl is a golddigger and he god used

[Unit1]

Correct. But that's also the only way old men can get with young girls (gold diggers) 😆

[Opinion Owner]

@Unit1 not really, same rules of attraction apply to older men, there are other things they can offer, unless you mean really really old then yeah, money is what they are after

[Unit1]

Yeah. Sometimes I think many girls use these 2 words interchangeably for wallet: personality and maturity 🤔

Of course this doesn't apply to all girls but it quite is applicable often enough to not go unnoticed if you get exactly what I mean 🤔

This is not a good mindset to have, I know. I am not sure why I am obsessed with that sometimes 😁 maybe because it just works 🤔 at least temporarily.

[VIVANT]

Unfortunately when it comes to dating It doesn’t really matter what any of us want. If that was the main criteria were all be happy all the time... It has to want us too. The reason most relationships do not have large age gains is bc it is not attractive to at least one Or both of the partners.

The reason most men don’t date women much younger, is bc either they don’t actually want to and or most younger women don’t want to date men much older. Not bc of stigma. Most relationships have an average of three year age difference up or down either side.

if you don’t feel attracted to women your Own age, why do you expect someone way younger to be attracted to you?

now I’m not saying you can’t or shouldn’t date women younger I’m just saying there’s no reason to assume the only thing in your way is your own resistance bc of social stigma. There are other barriers. Also younger women ghost pretty easily.

[Usernamesrdumb]

Dating in your late 20s to 30 is like shopping at a thrift store looking for the least damaged item. Your hypotheses is correct. Many articles easily googleable regarding age when women are most attractive and good ones being snapped up. However most, not all (as I've read younger women are starting to go for older men because men in the last generation dont have their act together) society will look at you as an almost pedophile preying on younger women just for sex. Mostly this is from older women, who are jealous of not getting the attention and not being as fertile. Ironically never hear anything about older women going for college aged guys. Hypocrisy if you ask me. I agree your less likely to find a bitter 20 yr old than a 30 yr old woman. I can attest to that. Although 10 yr age gap becomes more acceptable as both of you get older ie your 50 and she's 40.

[VIVANT]

Right but he will still want a 25 year old.

[rogers121]

"My theory is that the best girls get snapped up between 18 and 25 . Any stragglers past that age are more likely to have issues and any ladies heading into their mid to late 30's are already about done as far as relationships and kids are concerned etc. etc. The same could be said for Men, I'm not sure how tried and true that theory is but it seems to be working. Also around that age they're just more excited about everything it would seem."

Maybe it was true like 100 years ago.
Today, everyone is in a race for a better career, salary and so on. People get married much older than what was used to be in the past.
I know so many great women and men whom reached their 30's and are still single. They are well educated, ambitious and fun to be with.

Only by asking this question and your 'theories', it isn't hard to tell you are not a 'quality guy'.

[JimmyQ]

The same cannot accurately be said about men. Some of us are genetically superior to females and both our bodies and our minds become stronger with time. Take me for example.

I am now courting wife # 3 who is less than half my age and because I now know exactly what I want, this woman will be my best choice ever. My first was a creepy whore and my second was an abusive idiot.

Women cannot learn unless they are taught. Men are not toys to be played with and we are not here for you to abuse. We are smarter than you will ever know and we are also stronger than you could imagine.

"F" us over one time and you're on the out. You just never knew it.

[Anonymous]

You sound like a pathetic jerk. If you truelly believe the crap you speak you then must admit that you dont want any type of long term relationship. Everyone is going to grow older by the minute and you only wanting a younger girl means that you will always be teading in your older model for a new one. Well the classics are tried and true and dont let you down so you can go for the younger model and watch her break you. Afterall you get what you deserve being old and alone

[kingofthellamas]

It's an awful idea. To explain, ten years is an incredible amount of life experience. Logically, if someone is 28 they have had 10 years of life experience of being an adult. If someone of about 30 is dating someone of about 20 it's a really unbalanced relationship. The younger in the relationship will inevitably be controlled by the one with the benefit of experience. That will lead to resentment and a break down of the relationship. That will make it very hard for the older one to begin a new relationship. ( The advantage is with the younger one on starting a fresh, the younger you are the less baggage)

[R3DthatDude]

You could get a young female and still end up with the wrong person. Age alone isn’t enough, and I think your way of thinking is flawed because you’re trying to generalize everyone. You could screw up and ignore the very person that could have been right for you but because of you “theory” you missed out. And you females that think just cause a man likes a women much younger then him (19+), that means he is a pervert. I personally wouldn’t go for a women more then 10 years younger then me, they start becoming to childish like mentally. My point is stop judging because there are people who are happily married with a huge age gap.

[Anonymous]

Girls are physically at their peak and most desirable-physically-at that age. Unfortunately, it swells their heads and most develop attitudes at that time. Further, there is a lot of competition for their favors and even if you win out they can replace you swiftly. Additionally, they are very high maintenance at that age too. With a little bit of time they tire of the Chads, realize good men won’t put up with the entitled attitude and mature. I date near my age even though I could date much younger. One girlfriend asked why I did do as I can easily get younger women. My reply was “Because eventually you have to talk to them and they really have little of interest to say.” Ben Franklin recommended older women saying “They don’t yell, don’t tell, don’t smell and they’re grateful as hell”. He also observed “All cats are grey in the dark”.

[Anonymous]

I vote it is a great idea and it's complete doable but you'll need to go to Central Europe, Eastern Europe, Asia, South America, or Africa to get yourself a girlfriend that much younger. Ask an 18 year old girl out in most of those places and as long as you look decent, are a decent guy, and are there for something genuine you should be able to get an 18 year old girlfriend. It's natural to want a young, fertile woman with many years of beauty ahead of her and that isn't a slut like many girls in Western nations with 10, 20, or more sex partner counts.

[tootsmagoo]

Lol you are absolutely VOLUNTARILY celibate

[Jemini_Crocket]

I find it kinda ew for lots of reasons. One of them being that not every 30 year old woman is awful looking with kids and messed up. Still though, it's not uncommon to see much older guys with young ladies.

Don't expect any woman to respect you though if you talk about them like that. You guys think you age like fine wine but that is actually a rarity. Most guys tend to stop taking care of themselves.

[Chill_Meta]

In all honesty... It just means you like chicks to look at their prime of beauty when you date them or hookup. Tbh there's nothing wrong with this because it's a guy's base mindset whether we know it or not. It's usually frowned upon by certain individuals because of the age gap and double standards. Guys are 2x undoubtedly attracted to younger woman physical appearance just as well as women are more attracted to older men who have clout. This doesn't speak for every person or there of course but generally this applies for a good majority of people. Keep enjoying yourself man you only live once and there's no set path that is laid out to follow.

[tropicalfruit]

You said younger girls look better at the end of your question. Does this imply that you'd just dump them after they stopped being pretty? If so, I really don't think you should date at all, no one deserves to be treated that way. As for your thing with younger women, I have to say you're really limiting your options by choosing from such a limited pool of young, single women. I'm not sure if you'd find the perfect girl who isn't already dating someone her age.

[VIVANT]

I don’t understand why this very salient point Jesus getting swept under the rug lol

Instead I keep hearing “younger women rejecting bc if stigma “

And “he should keep his views private ( that he will lose attraction dump her once she’s 26) bc it’s not nice to be rude “

If anyone points out some Illogic, they are “ bitter”. So the author touched a nerve that is why people get upset.

Disagreeing is disagreeing , upset is upset. They are not the same. And a person can even be bitter, and still be correct.

in my opinion There tends to be some processing issues in posts on this subject.

[noone89]

Yes lmfaoo if you’re not attractive with money there’s honestly no reason young woman would even want to date you it’s creepy nobody really wants to be with the old fart unless he’s something special 🙄
Or you know girls with psychological issues would take it too lmfao not just a normal healthy young woman why would she?

[noone89]

Also just you know any young woman definitely can see the huge red flags in that, why would a 30 year old man be trying to get at me? He’s either a creep like a real one or he’s clearly not in his right mind and has issues. I would run for the hills just like anytime a 30 year old seriously thinks they can have something real with me a whole 19 year old like wtfffff lmfaoo my aunt and uncles are that age 🤢🤮!!

[VIVANT]

Yeah that’s the most awkward.. is that are literally the age of People who raised you. I can never get past that. It almost feels incestual. Not literally obviously

[noone89]

Dude fucking right? Lol like you KNOW it’s wrong af and they can’t possibly be really seeing you that grown and that’s why it’s so gross 😬. Sure it’s legal but is it morally right? Yeah probably not, yuck

[Vivaldi]

Ahhh you have never seen a hot 30 year old muscular actor. Lol.

[noone89]

Stfu, and that same “hot” 30 year old is still a ducking disgusting piece of shit for wanting that to start.

[Vivaldi]

Your brain age is a lot younger than 19.

[noone89]

Nope, I just have good parent. That’s why most young adults would never do some shit like that, it’s always the ones with problems or drug addictions.
You go tell somebody’s father you think you’re a good match for their young daughter, let’s see how many fathers wouldn’t beat your ass for it.

[Vivaldi]

My father and mother married when my mother was 18 and my father was 28

[noone89]

Yoooo wtf 😬😳😳😳😳
Um

[noone89]

How sad honestly I can’t even imagine being that age being forced into being a wife but it was a lot more common back in the days when woman had to really choose a husband since they didn’t work or go to school the way we do now

[noone89]

I’m sure it was survival

[Vivaldi]

There are a lot of 20 years old that use drugs and a lot of 30 years old that dont.

This has nothing with using drugs.

It is your country, Canada that legalized weed.

[Vivaldi]

Nobody forced my mother to marriage. She herself wanted to marry my father.

Stop talking stupid.

[noone89]

And let’s not forget have mental problems stemming from bad child’s you know mommy and daddy issues nobody normal just wants to do that.
Right, most woman back in the days would do things like that because it was completely different times it won’t just happen today because we just don’t have to and it’s gross.

[Vivaldi]

Well just one question

Can you estimate my age on this photo?

[noone89]

Just stop it

[Vivaldi]

I was 26 on this photo (taken 3 years ago)

How older than you do I look?

[noone89]

And how much more life experience do you have, how life ago did you graduate high school? And just how long ago did you finish college? Or my guess honestly you either never went or dropped out because only low lives who were pretty much left behind want to try and get and youngsters like a wtf 😳🤮

[Vivaldi]

You are mentally ill considering your age is as old as 19.

I won't reply any longer.

[noone89]

Stop, A full grown adult is still scary to me oh well 😬. No I don’t not feel like we are equals wtfffff and if we are that means YOU have issues like why are you so behind in life 🤔