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That's not how it works. If a man doesn't feel like he is needed, he's out of there. This is why when women talk about being "strong and independent", they immediately and permanently take themselves out of consideration as a relationship partner, and become, at most, "for recreational use only."
That isn't going to change. But it's a problem that WILL solve itself - because the "strong and independent" women are mostly not breeding, and so they are going to select themselves and their ideas out of existence. Not only that, but because there won't be enough men to run the infrastructure, there's going to be a big reduction in office jobs, as men will have to go do infrastructure jobs. This will result in far fewer big businesses, which will employ far fewer women. This is going to further reinforce the idea that pursuing a degree and a career isn't going to be the right answer for most women, because there won't be many high-paying corporate jobs waiting for them, while the cost of a degree will continue to rise. And increasingly, more jobs will require a STEM degree, or that degree will not be worth much.
While the US is doing better than most other western countries (in part because most western countries are even more to the left politically), we're still looking at a population collapse - and it is the leftists who are not reproducing. That's going to have BIG consequences that can't be easily or quickly fixed - the kind of consequences that result in huge societal changes. A big reason Feminism could succeed over the last 50 years is because of the huge size of the Baby Boomer generation, but when you have a large collapse in population, that changes everything. Women aren't going to go out and do the hard, dirty, dangerous jobs - the vast majority couldn't do them, and even if a handful could, they don't want to. But when there aren't enough men to do it, because the population has collapsed, men will have to leave the office (because corporate businesses will fail and close) and will have to take infrastructure jobs that women aren't eligible for. And with so few corporate jobs, women will largely be left either to small businesses or service jobs. Most women won't be able to live alone on such reduced salaries, and attitudes towards men will change radically.
Gen Z is going to see this happen, and Gen Alpha is going to LIVE it.
Not feeling wanted, coach? Here’s a hug.
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@mobiusforniner Hey thanks man lol
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It’s not 100% up to the men really, it’s up to the women.
There are too many NEEDY, THIRSTY women out there and men fall for them every time.
Women need to be mentally and spiritually stronger and more independent thinking so they KNOW what they WANT. We’re all messed up rn bc 1/3 the population fakes neediness to get the guy, the remaining 1/3 IS needy/thirsty and 1/3 is actually independent and choosing who they want without being 100% on their guy for their livelihood.
Whenever I hear a guy say “i want a housewife and a woman who doesn’t work bc I can take care of her” all I hear is “I want a needy, thirsty woman to be totally dependent on me for everything.” And guess what? Y’all get bored as hell with that woman and end up sleeping around and sneaking off and doing all manner of things…
So if you want a woman who WANTS you, shift who you’re looking at.
Stop being afraid of independent women and, instead, embrace them as potential partners in a more honest relationship.
Yeah but can they cook a good roast though?
Maybe, but there are independent women who are good women. Then there are independent women who are insufferable bitches. It's hard to tell the difference
"Stop being afraid of independent women"
I'm not at all afraid of them - they just have nothing to offer me in a relationship - in fact, because they tend to be masculine and argumentative, they are a negative to me in a relationship. in my opinion, they can go be independent and leave me alone. I'll happily treat them like the equals they claim to be: no chivalry of any kind. That's what they asked for.
You can do whatever you like, but I'm FAR happier in my TRADITIONAL relationship with a woman who has TRADITIONAL values and has no desire to change them. We make each other's lives better, and we're both happier as a result.
@MrOracle I was answering the question that was asked: "How can men stop being needed and start being wanted by women?" SOME independent women are good women, and they don't NEED a man to take care of them, so if they are with you, it's because they want to be with you. . . and they don't need to pretend otherwise. That is what I was thinking of when I said
a more honest relationship."
I have dated a few independent women, such as the reited judge I dated for two years. I would have been happy with her but she was not ready to commit to forever, and she was somewhat self-centered - not because she was independent, but because she was an only child.
At the end of the day, I am a very traditional man and I came back to that with which I am most comfortable.
But that's exactly the issue: the vast majority of men *who are still considering a serious relationship* (the many men who are NOT considering a relationship are irrelevant to this question) want TRADITIONAL women, NOT Independent women. And that's not going to change, and advising men to accept Independent women is largely going to end in disaster for those few men who are foolish enough to follow that advice.
@coachTanthony Can you cook a good roast?
I think for real partners it’s both. Or maybe thats just my case. 💯
Let's see what women want or who they are after.



Now, now. Let's be fair here.
Bringing up these examples is the same as girls telling us "y'all want SSSniperwolf, Belle Delphine and Pokimane!".
If I were to go out, touch grass and speak to girls, I'll unlikely encounter a girl wanting Jeremy Meeks, Ted Bundy (or someone else alive today like Ted Bundy) or Andrew Tate just like I'm not after SSSniperwolf, Belle Delphine or Pokimane.
This question however overasks my knowledge (besides money, duh) as I'm still fapping at home.
For men to transition from being seen as merely “needed” to being genuinely “wanted” by women, it often involves focusing on aspects of personal growth and relationship dynamics. Here are some strategies:
1. Cultivate Self-Confidence: Confidence is attractive. Work on building self-esteem and being comfortable with who you are, rather than seeking validation from others.
2. Pursue Personal Growth: Invest in your own interests, passions, and career. Being well-rounded and having your own goals makes you more interesting and appealing.
3. Develop Emotional Intelligence: Being able to communicate effectively, show empathy, and understand your own and others’ emotions can deepen connections and make relationships more fulfilling.
4. Focus on Mutual Respect: Build relationships based on mutual respect and equality. Show genuine interest in the other person’s needs, desires, and well-being.
5. Be Authentic: Authenticity fosters deeper connections. Be genuine in your interactions rather than trying to conform to someone else’s expectations or ideals.
6. Enhance Relationship Skills: Work on being a good partner by being supportive, attentive, and engaged. Demonstrating that you’re a committed and caring individual can shift perceptions from being “needed” to being “wanted.
First they have to acknowledge that they are NOT NEEDED. These days woman are actually allowed to have jobs and many earn more than their man. But what about those man jobs around the house? Well 90% of you are shit at them anyway and we usually have to get another guy in to fix what you tried to do. Sex? Don't need you for that either, loads of donkey dick guys who are better in bed than you available at anytime we want. Protection? We don't live in the middle ages, there's no vikings over the horizon.
Guys have to ask what they can give us that isn't readily available because that's what's wanted.
And this is why men are going their own way 🤷🏻♂️ and voting for Trump
Nothing makes your crack clam shut faster than a guy worshipping Trump. Men Avoiding Girls Again
What do you mean "what they can give us that isn't readily avalible"?
isn't it a but contradictory for you to say that men have to they aren't needed and then turn around and ask to recieve something not easily gained?
Why dont you make an effort to get whatever isn't readily avalible yourself?
As I replied to another thread:
"There will come a time when humanity has invented everything it needs, even for emotional desires and needs—yes, an AI-controlled robot partner. With just some coding, our desires will be fulfilled. Why go through emotional turmoil and suffering when everything we want could be perfectly created? Today, we might see these kinds of people as degenerates (it's foreign, odd, and unknown) who can't find a partner, but soon this will be acceptable, as these robots will be continually updated and much improved."
Feminisms, biased misandry, woke, inflation and of course war create hopelessness, all these doesn't make birthrate increase.
Someone once posed the question (not on GaG) would you rather be needed or wanted?
I am definitely going to say men need to feel wanted.
I don't know that you should have to stop being needed and turning it into being wanted.
That almost sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Because if you want a man and you are lucky enough to have him, there are still going to be things you will need from him.
Maybe it's both?🤷🏼♀️
This is very true. A man is only loved by women if he has agency i. e. the ability to add value to the woman’s life (money, attraction, support, etc). But once she determines he is no longer of value to her he’s expendable.
The idea of treating a person respectfully because they are human only applies to women not men. Women are special just for existing.
Now this does not mean a woman should stay with a man she no longer finds value in. But as long he didn’t legitimately abuse her (physically, sexually, etc.) she needs to put the mental effort into respecting his position. And how she treats him during and after a break up usually says all.
Women care too much about themselves, and money. These days they don’t need nor want men for anything other than having children, but after having children the men are more often than not discarded. Considered worthless. Women are constantly being told that men are oppressing them. Holding them back. Taking their rights away, etc etc etc. if women want to live that way, no one is telling them not to. They should just know that they’re feeding into their own oppression, unhappiness and loneliness by kicking men to the curb and preventing men from having a purpose in life.
I would argue that men determine if they will take a woman seriously or not and until he does that she doesn't really have the option of getting benefits from him. Need doesn't matter unless she is benefiting & guys limit who can benefit to one or less at a time (if they are smart). It is a mutually agreed thing. Unless you are dumb enough to give benefits 'just because'. She can "want" 500 different dudes tho because thinking/daydreaming is free and requires zero effort. Getting traditional benefits from a guy DOES require her to do something. If you look at everything women are now complaining about not getting from every random date/short term boyfriend it is all traditional relationship benefits. The market value for women has gone down due to them not behaving as if they have value. What makes a woman more valuable? Her ability to be loyal & respectful. Kryptonite to modern "I don't need a man but I expect him to give me things" feminist types.
That is impossible. Women don't desire men.
Women desire, safety, security, valuable items, Babies, and family. Women don't desire men.
Women who used to desire men were eliminated by Natural Selection. And still, today, if a woman is born who desires men, she chases the wrong men and is killed or hurt in the process. She does not get to leave behind offspring. Thus, natural selection removes them. Look at what Ted Bundy did.
Or look around you, There are examples of women who are SIDE CHICKS today. They are chasing a man, that is already taken. Probably will never have kids with him.
Men love women. Women Love kids. Kids Grow up to be Men and women. And the cycle goes on.
It is not a "Give and get", relationship, "It is a Give and Pass on." relationship."
@Apple1996 Don't lie!
What women feel towards men may be lust, a temporary Attaraction.
But it's not Love, because Women's Love for Men is Conditional, so it is not Love.
Men's Love for Women is Unconditional, hence it's love..
Women's love for Kids and safety is Unconditional so that is where her love lies in!.. not towards men!
Get rid of childish perception of moral. Nobody needs you unless you're an ugly but rich walking wallet. To be wanted you need some fascinating image around your personality. You don't built it up with telling "I support Trump and I dislike Taylor Swift" to some lefty woman, you have lost already before you even started. Don't be transparent, easily predicable. Honesty, moral never pay off.
The good guys ARE wanted and that will never change.
Stop providing, and feeding the the dating standards of the past.
It has gotten to the point men have to pay for everything and carry the whole dating processes.
As long as you don't keep feeding that standard, it will change. When it is thought as mandatory, it will be abused.
Like many things such as quitting drinking and drugs, those kind of people will drop off, and you will see the quality people who are left.
Be the kind of man a woman wants, and help make where you live the kind of place where women (and men) can be independent if they want to be.
That won't change it 100% but it's the most u can do.
By being someone other people like to be around.
Easier said than done
By stop pushing that stupid narrative of men only being tolerated if he has something to offer
I mean, it's kinda true, though...
Women don’t want a partnership
Never said I did. Why would I want to speak for such a hateful, self-centered, Godless gender?
Hateful godless gender.
Proceeds to be hateful to an entire gender.
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Incels are hilarious lol.
Do women not genuinely desire men? 🙃
You should ask the gag community
@SeriouslyNotSerious good question 👍 💯
Men need to be needed. It's nice to be wanted but we need to be useful.
Start dating and living the relationship they want rather than the one they think they should have.
1. Stop being needy by breaking the one-itis trap and realizing that there are four billion women out there.
2. Start being wanted by? Different ones want different things. Become interesting in some ways and you will draw some.
Stop trying to set themselves up as gatekeepers and glorifying the men who are.
Never met I guy yet who wanted me to need him. But I have horrible selection skills in men so. There.
I know my girlfriend wants me because I gave her no benefits when she agreed to date me. I had no job and no college degree.
Changing their way of thinking.
Most men biggest problem they worship women and sex from them so bad thus they get treated accordingly.
Cut the worship and desperation then women will show you respect.
There is no universal technique or advice that gurantees attraction. Some people really are fucked
Well they can be more protective of their emotions. Don’t allow evil women steal their assets.
The only things men are wanted for by women is money and occasional sex.
Statistically by becoming a serial killer driving a Lamborghini while dressed as a fireman with a puppy.
If you aren't needed you aren't wanted
By being likable and emotionally open
That question waxes most poetic.
Become a homosexual
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