I'm supposed to habe started my Master's already but the pandemic and then my mom got covid badly etc etc. The reason I will definitely do it is because I want to open a school. So of course I need credentials and also I need the guidance that the program will offer to me. And no, I wouldn't ever consider working for anyone. I am doing everything in my power to prevent ever needing to do that.
In the past, going to college was put in a higher pedestal, a promise that being there will give you better opportunities in life and a great future. But nowadays, many people see all those promises fake, because of the enourmous fees one needs to pay, the student loans to pay even though one quits college, that one can reach the same or a better job position without going to college, that not all of us can be a good academic material but we can get a good life even though college is not done, that you will become bitter and frustrated, etc. The idea of "going to college brings you a better future" has been shattering as time passes by and we see new chances and opportunities to live better without going to college. However, colleges have looked for a new kind of slogan like "you can meet people like you in college, make new friends".
However, that doesn't mean that college is totally bad, it can be good and fulfill those promises in the past depending in both the student, how (s) he moves in both college and in life, the situation and the chance.
For me, while I matured a bit, and gained some decent friendships (temporary, at least), I don’t think college was all that important. We could have put the money to much better use. I doubt I found a job saying I was a college graduate from a prestigious school - or at least, I haven’t found anything long term that I couldn’t have gotten with the natural talent I already had.)
For most jobs, I would say in a competitive market, white collar jobs, yes.
My degree felt like a requirement, but it still wasn’t anything that said “oh, he works hard.” Or “he can learn if we’re willing to teach him.” Most jobs I applied for didn’t seem to care, other than it was a check mark on their list of stringent requirements (but it still wasn’t enough).
Requiring 10 years experience when the applicant can’t get experience (because no one will hire you without that ten years experience; and self employed doesn’t count, for some reason) is ridiculous, but that’s the way things are in a lot of places.
But for it saying that you come from money, or you put in a lot of effort, or you’re good at what you do, or you have similar experiences to what you’re looking for… eh. Depends who sees it, but I don’t think a lot of companies care other than it looks nice and might sound important.
University education is not intended to give the student skills that are directly marketable on the job market like many studies. This is because the university is not a vocational training.
Its purpose is to give the student the ability to analyze and synthesize certain topics. Furthermore, it serves to teach the student to study and endure heavy study loads that will then serve him in life to excel in work contexts.
Generally, those who do not have a university education are difficult to re-instruct on new jobs in the event of a change in the production paradigm. This is what many people don't realize when they approach college and think it's some kind of great high school.
The fact that tertiary education in the United States is frighteningly expensive is due to several factors. First of all, there are de facto limits to the race to the top of education prices in market regulation, universities are de facto institution trusts that exercise enormous power over the political system. There is no regulation of the possibility of borrowing for education and the continued supply of liquidity for education which leads to an increase in the prices of education in the US. The universities have kept the costs of education roughly unchanged in fact those who work there are paid in the same way, however the "administrative" costs have skyrocketed, basically useless expenses.
I think it depends on the job. As a software engineer, it would have been more difficult to be hired without my degree in computer science. I did work as a freelance software developer before I attended university for game companies, but that was a stroke of luck on my part that happened as a result of publishing freeware games that ended up getting very popular which led to job offers.
These days I think it's even more difficult because the internet is now saturated with developers producing freeware games and applications and so forth. I published my games in the 90s when the internet was a new thing and my games weren't even all that could. I just ended up reaching millions of downloads because there weren't so many other options back then.
I used to think it was extremely important, but not so much anymore. As someone who has almost always made in six figures and as a college drop out, I do wonder if I could do better but not enough time left.
What is important is learning a skill that is usable by employers or starting your own business. Right now that would be trades, so trade school. Those are extremely well paying jobs too, compared to many college jobs.
College is still good for people who go into high demand career choices, such as the medical field and others.
I think it's somewhat important as there are a lot of jobs that require a college degree but there are also jobs that don't require a college degree. There are trades or vocational degrees for people who don't want to get a 4 year degree. Traditional 4 year college degrees need to stop being shoved down people's throats. College isn't for everyone. It's also way too expensive.
It’s expensive because taxpayers are picking up more and more of the costs every election cycle, so schools can charge more and more outrageous amounts because the end user isn’t usually the one feeling the Bern.
For the knowledge, scientific thinking (if they even do that anymore). - Yes. For the paperwork? - Nah, not really. I mean it might get you some extended opporitunities for employment but it doesn't prove competence although you're more LIKELY to be competent.
Then there's the economic perspective.. In my country it's mostly free or costs are minimal but if it sets you up badly economically that's an equation you have to take with yourself.
It's only valuable if you take it serious and don't sqwander it. If you're fresh out of school, is tired of School/studying and/or don't really know what direction to go.. then go to work for a few years and then further educate.
Microsoft is having a limit of 7/10 CGPA in India. Clearly they are not looking for the bookies only. What they look at is your linkedin profile, then your gitrhub, then your experience as an intern or something, then your activities (all this is available on linkedin, but somethings are not).
They want a creative person, not a bookish person. So no matter what level of college it is, it has always been you on whom everything depends.
I gave it 3 stars, because the degree matters, of course, but it can also be a cheap one. You are what depends.
And after some time, only experience speaks I have heard.
I would say it's somewhat important. I went to college and I don't regret it, it was an amazing experience and I would go back in time if I could. However not everyone wants to go to college and that's fine. Many people can't afford it and of course that is a problem if they want to go. Obviously there are still many professions that require a college degree but on the other hand there are many well-paid jobs that don't require college experience. In the end I would say that it depends on what you want to do and if you're able to pay for it or to get a real scholarship.
I think going to college and learning a skill is important, university isn't necessarily important to all people. Having at least a modicum of knowledge on a specific subject isn't going to do anyone any harm, and having a trade is a great thing for most, even if it is a fall back. Also demonstrating that you have the ability to kearn to a higher level than just highschool is a huge bonus. Obviously if you want to work in a specialist field, university and degrees are a must.
Honestly it's not that important to go to college. To me at least. That's entirely up to the person of they want to go to college and get a higher education. It doesn't have to be right out of high school either, you can go later in life if you want. I didn't go to college and I'm turning out just good and have a good steady job that I love. I believe that you can learn a lot from working hands on. A degree doesn't define who you are. If you want to go to college, that's your decision. One I don't have to worry about since I didn't go to college is student loans and being in debt for that. Again it's up to the person to decide on going to college and getting a degree. Believe me, y'all can learn a lot from working hands on. I know that because I've been doing it for so long where I work and have no regrets.
If I were starting my working life today I'd be avoiding College/University like the plague, as they have become places that are hostile to men especially if you happen to be white. These days you are better off doing Trade Training where you are earning while learning the job for instance currently in the US you can take up a vacancy for an AEROSPACE FITTER entry level $37K to $100K after training after which the salary will continue to raise with service and you will not have any student loans to service.
We have had "you need to go to college to get a great paying job" for years. All it ever got people is major debt, higher poverty rates, blinding people from fighting to raise minimum wage, and being forced to work minimum wage because companies dont pay people what they are worth or deny them jobs by saying "you're over qualified" and if you move to a place where your college degree is of use, the cost of living is ridiculous. The best route nowadays is investing in trade jobs since they are in big need of welders, plumbers, electricians, coders,... etc.
I think it really depends on what a person want to do so I voted C for how important a four year or university experience would be. There are other post-secondary educational oppotunities or training opportunities that can lead to stable careers and incomes as well.
Depends on what you do your degree in and how well you do in it otherwise you've wasted 4 years of your life and ran up thousands in debt. The full college and university experience is great and all but on its own its a 4-10 year expense that has to be paid for.
From a practical sense, it's not important at all; from a technical sense it's very important. The reason for this (from someone who works in Human Resources) is that you won't get a job without college. There are some small-time businesses, or certain skilled trades that don't require college, but any company of size will want a college degree. Most degrees are worthless, and a waste of time/ money, but they want you to have one.
I know dropouts who earn over 6 figures. It's not important at all. I understand that people don't see it that way though. Most people do what the masses do so. Obviously if you want to be a doctor you should go. If you are after a lot money then no college isn't needed.
If you need a college degree for your profession then go for it but remember if you take out a student loan, You HAVE GOT to pay it back. IF you don't need a degree for your profession then don't go to college. It would b a waist of your time.
Didn't go to college and don't have a degree. Still managed to create the life and the career of my dreams and make more money than all my friends with master degrees. I still advice all young people to go to college tho. I believe education is necessary in anyone's life even if that's not the career they decide to pursue in the future.
You make more money more quickly with less debt to income ratio in trades. There are a lot of professions we can do without, not so much on trades. I’m not a fan of the 18-24 age range in most humans, but it’s worse if they are living at college full time.
For those inclined to have a profession, a college education is essential. For those who don't wish to rack up a college debt for the rest of their working lives, an avocation, or a vocational school that addresses your abilities seems to me as the correct avenue of learning.
For wealth wise don’t go to college, there’s billionaires that never went to college lol…plenty of successful people that never went to college, people that claim you can’t be successful without going to college is laughable.
If you’re in fields like medical, defense, engineering and all that then you have to.
Unless you're going for mechanical, electrical, or chemical engineering, or medicine I'd say college is as useless as a prius as the pacecar for NASCAR. I never went to college I just went right to work and I have achieved everything I needed to. I'm financially independant and stable and already have a higher salary than what most college graduates get in their field. I am not wealthy by any means. I still have to live on ramen noodles just to pay the bills from time to time.
It depends on what you want out of things. If your goal is money I would go for a trade eg. IT, Insurance, plumbing etc. If you REALLY want to work in a particular field then go to college but make sure you also cultivate skills tgat are applicable to a wide variety of jobs. eg. programming, computer skills, writing whatever
There are many jobs out there that may not pay the equivalent of a college grad. But when you take into the consideration that you need to pay all of that college loan back. You would probably be ahead of the game in the end! I attended a Vo-tech school during high school and feel that I made a good living because of it.
Paying 4 years of wages for college education is completely asinine. You will be working for the college until your 30s unless your parents fork up the dough or you get some sort of scholarship. We live in a gig economy so the underwater basket weaving lib arts degree for 80k, sort of screw you in the long run.
Simple statistics constantly prove it. College educated get 10x the pay. College loans are offset, low interest and rarely negatively hit your credit score.
Not going to college, well…vast majority rarely gets out of the labor jobs. And how are labor jobs doing lately?
That’s really subjective though, my sister is 40 and still owes, my coworker is 39 and still owes. Neither have jobs in the fields they went to school for and it prevented them from being able to afford a home before everything skyrocketed. Unless you have a scholarship I just don’t think it’s worth it for most people.
I have the highest degree possible in my field and I can say it was mostly a waste of time. Might pay off later.. But I'm not holding my breath. I think education can't compete with pure capability. If you're fuckin amazing at something and can prove it, you're sorted. Only thing with formal education up to BA level is the requirement from some companies. I wish I could say it's great but at this moment I truly believe you can educate yourself and get more out of it with less cost.
I honestly don't know any more. When I went to Uni, only 10-15% of students did, and anyone whose parents couldn't afford to send you got a grant to pay for it. No debt at the end of it.
It all depends on what occupation you have in mind.
There are quite a few occupations that only require some training and you can make a decent salary... That said, if you want to become a doctor, an engineer, a lawyer, college is essential.
It's not about going to college it's about what you learn. There is plenty of people wasting their time and money in college. If you can learn a skill elsewhere and get payed that is the preferred way.
It depends on what you study. If college is for proffessional then it’s important. If the major is like philosophy that leads you to no where the i it’s not important. On the other hand, people only drink all their college years so it’s not important. They need to make money not spending on beer
Not very, all the richest people I know didn't attend further education
Those I know that did are so stuck on their path that any upset to the expected progression is disastrous The rich ones just adapted and ploughed a new course
Well, going to college is great, but now people are finding jobs that get them good money, without going to college. So, I would say it is somewhat important in today’s society.
Yea I don't know, depends on who we're talking about. For some people college/university is a waste of time. I go to university, but I've seen many drop out because it simply wasn't for them.
Important if you want a job within a field that needs a college degree or you can just go into a trade or entrepreneurship there’s options. I know within my career field I needed a masters degree and beyond so that’s what I got.
Really depends on what you're trying to do. For some people it's invaluable. For others, it's a disastrous mistake. And there's pretty much a story everywhere in between there.
It cost to much nowadays and they dont teach you anything there is way to many kids out there with 100grand of students loan debt that can't find a job
Go to a trade school a lot cheaper only takes 2 years and there are a lot if jobs out there
To me it mostly seemed yoh need to learn more useless injects, just to get credits? And has nothing to do with three job you want. Trade schools at more appealing to me.
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