I’m not sure it’s ever been clear cut. Every date I remember we just started talking and touchy/flirty shit happens and then someone asks if they’d like to grab a drink or dinner.
They usually make the first move. Not by asking but by smiling, saying hi, or otherwise indicating that they are probably receptive to being approached by you.
@VIVANT Oh, I just believe you shouldn’t do all of the chasing after someone. I don’t feel comfortable asking for a guys number. Then asking him on a date. Later, I initiate the second date, etc. I believe that NO ONE should be forced to heavily pursue the right person. I personally have never been on a date because of my commitment issues. That is the only reason I’ve never asked.
Never. It feels too needy on my end to go out and ask a guy out.
Do guys genuinely find it attractive? I don’t believe that one bit
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We do, or at least I do. a lot of the time guys won't approach girls because we assume they just want to be left alone. But if a girl approaches you it takes all the guess work out of it, you know for a fact that she wants to talk to you
@MandaPanda2000 I agree, it's very attractive. Like women like in guys, we like confidence also! Plus, it shows she is interested in me and I know it because she made the first move.
Take it from the multitude of guys tell you otherwise; guys don’t think a girl is easy for initiating (easy is actually about history), it’s something clearly girls are always thinking about and projecting onto situations like this.
90% of guys prefer it. 90% of the rest are fine either way and 90% of what’s left after that are still fine with it despite it not being their preference. There’s no real intellectual reason why women don’t do it. They just plain don’t like and avoid it because they can afford to.
"guys don’t think a girl is easy for initiating (easy is actually about history)" That is such a perfect way to describe how I feel about it.
Girls tend up doing the exact opposite of what I and probably many other guys like. They fuck guys for one night stands and then want to wait awhile because they don't want the guy they are serious about to think they are easy. The one night stands things were the bad thing, not sex with the serious guy too soon. But I guess they are ultimately trying to just appear not easy.
@cavmanier "The one night stands things were the bad thing, not sex with the serious guy too soon." Agreed.
I feel like I see this all the time and in all sorts of ways with women; it seems like it's them caving to some worry or concern and rationalizing it as was guys think. And then I can get treated like the asshole for pointing out that the thing they think is a problem isn't a problem and if they stopped worrying they'd realize there's nothing to worry about. Weird.
I feel like they're more concerned about appearing as the presentation of what we want instead of actually being what we want. The problem with them actually being the way is they would have to rarely want a guy. Many want to have their fun though too.
@MandaPanda2000 "Thrill of the chase"? No, it is usually not worth it. And chasing is a silly game and not productive for anyone. Just meet someone and talk and find out if you click. If so, great. If not, that's fine, too. It's really that simple. Don't make it harder than it has to be.
How is it harder? Guys making a move is infinitely more likely to get rejected than a girl. If a girl makes a move and get rejected, it'll be because the guy is taken.
If they're a slut, pretty frequently. If they're not, it's pretty rare.
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never, they are too scared to fail, and as a consequence never grow as an individual, forcing themselves to live a life of perpetual dependence and self imposed victimization.
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For very good-looking guys it is not unusual to be approached by women. But we're talking the 1 percenters here.
I've only been directly approached a couple times. And not for a long time, sadly.
I've never made the first move, but if I really feel like I'll hit it off, I definitely will.
either a. ones who do not think things through or b. ones who are not at all intimatdated by the guy
I guess most of them always wait for the guy to do it first. But when it looks like he's taking too much time they might go for it.
I'd be thrilled to have a girl make the first move or even have a friend of hers tell me she likes me.
But good luck with that, once in a blue moon to get acknowledgement, once in more than an eternity to be asked out
I can probably count on one hand how many times it's happened
I’m not sure it’s ever been clear cut. Every date I remember we just started talking and touchy/flirty shit happens and then someone asks if they’d like to grab a drink or dinner.
They usually make the first move. Not by asking but by smiling, saying hi, or otherwise indicating that they are probably receptive to being approached by you.
Not very often and it is very subtle. But when it does happen, i think it is quite a big thing her to do
I’ve asked for a few guys numbers before, but I never ask a guy on a date. I don’t believe in chasing people.
So how do you go on a date of asking for a date is chasing and you don’t believe in it?
@VIVANT Oh, I just believe you shouldn’t do all of the chasing after someone. I don’t feel comfortable asking for a guys number. Then asking him on a date. Later, I initiate the second date, etc. I believe that NO ONE should be forced to heavily pursue the right person. I personally have never been on a date because of my commitment issues. That is the only reason I’ve never asked.
Well, if you have commitment issues then that means they're probably going to have to chase you. Until they get tired and give up.
Only if I have to prove that I'm not a chicken to a friend.
ve donr it once. I was a lot ballsier back then lol
Never. It feels too needy on my end to go out and ask a guy out.
Do guys genuinely find it attractive? I don’t believe that one bit
We do, or at least I do. a lot of the time guys won't approach girls because we assume they just want to be left alone. But if a girl approaches you it takes all the guess work out of it, you know for a fact that she wants to talk to you
It's not that you find it attractive it's that you find it easy. The thrill of the chase is worth it.
No it's attractive. It's a woman who is self aware and mature enough to know what she wants and doesn't have to wait to be approached.
Ask if you find a guy showing interest in you attractive. It's the same answer.
@MandaPanda2000 I agree, it's very attractive. Like women like in guys, we like confidence also! Plus, it shows she is interested in me and I know it because she made the first move.
It feels to needy? Have fun letting potentially great relationships slip by cause you are so against trying to make it happen.
I personally do find it attractive and I wouldn't think a woman is needy for making the first move.
Take it from the multitude of guys tell you otherwise; guys don’t think a girl is easy for initiating (easy is actually about history), it’s something clearly girls are always thinking about and projecting onto situations like this.
90% of guys prefer it. 90% of the rest are fine either way and 90% of what’s left after that are still fine with it despite it not being their preference. There’s no real intellectual reason why women don’t do it. They just plain don’t like and avoid it because they can afford to.
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"guys don’t think a girl is easy for initiating (easy is actually about history)"
That is such a perfect way to describe how I feel about it.
Girls tend up doing the exact opposite of what I and probably many other guys like. They fuck guys for one night stands and then want to wait awhile because they don't want the guy they are serious about to think they are easy. The one night stands things were the bad thing, not sex with the serious guy too soon. But I guess they are ultimately trying to just appear not easy.
@cavmanier "The one night stands things were the bad thing, not sex with the serious guy too soon."
Agreed.
I feel like I see this all the time and in all sorts of ways with women; it seems like it's them caving to some worry or concern and rationalizing it as was guys think. And then I can get treated like the asshole for pointing out that the thing they think is a problem isn't a problem and if they stopped worrying they'd realize there's nothing to worry about. Weird.
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I feel like they're more concerned about appearing as the presentation of what we want instead of actually being what we want. The problem with them actually being the way is they would have to rarely want a guy. Many want to have their fun though too.
@MandaPanda2000 "Thrill of the chase"? No, it is usually not worth it. And chasing is a silly game and not productive for anyone. Just meet someone and talk and find out if you click. If so, great. If not, that's fine, too. It's really that simple. Don't make it harder than it has to be.
I would phrase “the presentation” as “their interpretation” but yeah.
@AllThatSweetJazz no because presentation means they care about the appearance and not the substance of reality. Interpretation is not related.
@cavmanier Interpretation, includes appearance. Don't what definition you're using.
I think it's harder for us to make the first move. I mean its not a natural thing for a girl
How is it harder? Guys making a move is infinitely more likely to get rejected than a girl. If a girl makes a move and get rejected, it'll be because the guy is taken.
Why is it not natural?
Why is it not “natural”
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@VIVANT because its not
Lol OK I’m totally convinced. Great argument. 👍🏻😁
Only did it 2x in person when I was in HS. Online a few times and wasn’t worth it
Imagine if guys thought it wasn’t worth it, where would we be as a society
@chris_987 I have the luck of a guy when it comes to dating. It never works out for me
That doesn’t even make sense, so why do guys keep going after rejection?
@chris_987 perseverance
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Lol 😂🤷♀️😊
I rarely make the first move. Just like guys approaching me is rare.
Only in my dreams they do.
And I don't dream.
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If they're a slut, pretty frequently. If they're not, it's pretty rare.
never, they are too scared to fail, and as a consequence never grow as an individual, forcing themselves to live a life of perpetual dependence and self imposed victimization.
I try to make my intentions clear from the get go. If I am not being direct enough, I'll make the first move.