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I think mama's boys are strictly victims of narcissism.
Narcissists are a minority of the population, but it spreads like a virus down family trees because of the childhood abuse that carries into young adulthood.
As such, the kids are sabatoged sufficently so as to make them undesirable by normal people. That's the reproductive strategy of narcissists.
Fuck up their kids long enough so that hopefully they make it past their primes still single and inexperienced so that they'll have to settle and compromise.
Capitalism enables this abuse because entering the world requires financial support from home as a launchpad into college tuition and financial support during the transition from child to adult.
Without this support, and no social government programs to take over that role, one must either bite the bullet and choose the path of homelessness or stay home and sink farther into the hole.
Mama's boys are the ones who choose not to bite the bullet. That's why they are disliked by normal women. Normal people can see the abuse a mile away and don't respect a person who allows themselves to be abused. Much more respect for the person who does what they need to to leave the situation.
That's the appeal of the struggling broke guy trying to make it on his own. Probably uneducated and in poverty, but he's making it. He's not being abused anymore and he's setup personal boundaries and people respect them or he leaves.
That's a person who can break the cycle of narcissism and end the disease with his parents forever.
That's my take on it anyway.
Well you're not wrong 🤷♀️
I believe it. My moms a narcissist and she's doing us similar to how my grandparents did her. I refuse to be that way.
I ain't no damn mama's boy.
Yes, gentlemen do exist. But if you're looking for the pull-your-chair-out open-the-car-door type, then I can tell you right now that he's probably a mama's boy. Probably a yes-man, too. If that's what you're into (not you, personally, Desi; just women in general) then I'm not judging. Some chicks like that type.
I will say this, though: mama's boys will probably have greater job stability. Because they're good at taking abuse and letting other people boss them around. One of the sad ironies of this world.
I like yes men but not the hold door open etc. and u have a point on that last part
Thanks. Why do you like yes-men, though?
Ig i just like things to go my way. I know that can be bad but its true
@DizzyDesii That's not the way things work in relationships, though. You don't always get what you want. Sometimes you have to compromise. Both people have to compromise.
I compromised more than i should have in the past. Im tired of that so thats why i want someone super similar
I don't mean compromising one's values. I mean like pizza vs. chicken.
Oh yea thats fine lol
lol.
Thanks for the MHO!
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I'm quite the opposite of the mama's boy. I really don't get along with my mother and left that home ASAP. We actually haven't spoken in decades (I can get into that, but in a nutshell it involved her disowning me because I dated a black woman).
But I do at least subscribe to the gentleman code and also man's code of honor like never run from a fight (but ideally try not to start them). Never act out of fear, protect those who can't protect themselves, step up to the plate and take responsibility when no one is willing to do it, etc.
Beautiful definiton
It is kind of a personal synthesis of sorts, but I really believe that's what the original gentleman idea was about. The origin of that subset of chivalry came about during the Crusades as I understand it with hardened war veterans returning from the Crusades to their ladies and needing to learn a more gentle touch. But these are hardly the types of men who were timid. And I think dominance gets a bad rep these days. There is a type of dominance that creates someone who leads not out of a power trip but a desire to take responsibility when no one steps up to the plate and protect those who follow.
I don't care too much about guy's being mama's boy.
My ex was one and while he knew how to treat girls right, he wasn't the most lovable boyfriend. He took me for granted at times and has cheated on me etc... (Because of his behaviour, I wasn't a good girlfriend either)
My boyfriend is not a mama's boy. He's had a lot of problems concerning his parents but he has lived with his mom a lot. He's a much much much better boyfriend.
So yeah I don't think that treating women nicely is related to being mama's boy.🤔
i consider mamas boys the type that would dumb there girl friend or divorce there wife over there mom. i have no respect for guys like that because mothers are on the bottom of my list of people who have any say so in my life. on a side not though acting polite and treating others with respect is expected its not a right or privilege. anyone who says ohter wise is just blowing hot air.
Nah thats kinda true. A lot put their mom as #1 and i think she needs to move down the line after being together for so long
i agree they should moms are nothing to be worshiped like some guys do its kind of disturbing and gross lol i mean look what happened to Norman Bates HE was a mamas boy lol
@desi lol😂😉 if you consider downlining the hierarchy then you will but down to once you have a daughter or kid..
The I don't understand the idealogy of girls you know in a family you will be always the outsider no matter what so why can't you both mother in law and daughter in law get together🤔
@Aakash_Hangargi im saying that some moms tell their sons who to date and who not to date. It ruined some of my relationships
Yup you have to win them over you know at least a bit the problem is that with people now that they don't want to bond with the family members then there won't be the love you know the main reasons relationship fail is everybody says break up for the smallest inconvinince if you would love you mother in law at least respect them they would even hit there son for you that's the trick ofcourse if they are abusive fck them😂
@desi hope you could relate to this in earlier days not way long back it was mother who used to give rice balls made by her hand and feeds the children sitting in a circle no matter the person child is big or small it's not that nobody can eat by their own its the love and gesture
@Aakash_Hangargi no my ex had a mom who didn't like him with anyone. No one was good enough for her son and she sabotaged all his relarionships and he eventually gave in and let her
guys like that are still sucking on moms tits for milk you dont need a guy like that lol
I used to be a Mama's boy. She taught me manners and how to be a gentleman.
One thing I'm confused about being a gentleman is that I get taken advantage of in different ways.
When I go out on a date, I pay for everything. I hold the doors open for her. I always let her go first. I'm a good listener and I listen to her life and drama. But what's in it for me? It's just giving, give and give with nothing in return.
Yea i dont need someone holding the door open or paying for my stuff. I just want someone respectful and sweet
I was always considered a "mama's boy" because I was the youngest of the boys in my house and because objectively my dad was a terrible parent and did a lot of damage to both his marriage and my siblings. You learn from the mistakes of the father, and if that makes me a mama's boy then so be it!
Nothing wrong with that. Just dont let her run your relationships
I've been called a gentleman but never a mama's boy. I don't know how well the whole "how he treats his mother is how he'll treat you" thing works out. My mother and I didn't talk for almost 10 years. But I don't think anyone who knows me would say that I'm not a gentleman when it comes to being respectful to woman.
Yea i dont believe that saying is fully correctZ i just always heard that
How do you feel like that's played out irl in your experience
Its been 50/50 honestly. Like i had some exes who treated me good although they were mean to their mom. I had some who treated their moms awful and me too. And i had some who treated me awful but treated their mom good
My mother is a dominant and nasty bitch and such women don't produce mama's boys.
According to your theory I have some deficits in matter of being a gentleman, what is true. However I have relatively good DNA and I can tell you being gentleman is overrated
I understand
would imagine there are some true gentleman out there. just fewer of them these days.
however there also seem to be less true ladies out there. partly due to feminism becoming more and more of a deal over the last 20 years or so. plus many dress or act in a less then lady like way.
so many guys stopped acting or dressing like gentleman.
one hand washes the other type deal.
Thats true
I know how to treat women because I actually am slightly more feminine than most guys. Not a lot, but enough to be more emotional than most guys and I relate and get along better with women. I was never a mama's boy, though I get along better with my mother than my father, but until recently I always looked upto my dad and wanted to impress him.
Being emotionally feminine is fine as long as you still walk and talk and dress like a man 🤷♀️
I sound pretty gay sometime. But dont be getting transphobic on me😂
The term meek comes to mind when I think of being a gentleman.
The definition for meek is as follows:
Power under control.
I drive a vehicle equipped with a v8 which has a lot of horsepower and torque, all of this power under my control.
Being a gentleman is simply being polite and cordial in society and knowing when to unleash the beast within, and if it ever comes to that stand back and lookout.
Heyyy i like that
I've been in my own since I was sixteen and only call my mom to make sure she's doing okay or when I need some advice on something with which no one else can help.
She taught me how to be a gentleman when I was really young.
I love my Mom more than anyone, but I hate not being independent and she still thinks that I'm a teenager sometimes, I guess 😂
Does she run your life and relationships?
Noooooo. No no no haha 😂
She lets me make my own mistakes, but she's there whenever I need her.
My Mom is a great woman and I know I'm gonna be a great man because of her.
I've been calling her a lot lately because she's an ICU nurse and she has diabetes so I'm scared for her to be working in the middle of all of this.
Awwww
Im a mamas boy but she was barely around untill i was about 12, so she's trying to do as much parenting as possible before im 18.
I don't know if i consider myself a gentleman because thats not for me to judge but i dont think any gentlemanly traits or chivalry came from her.
I understand :)
Non-"Mama's-Boy" "gentlemen" do exist. We are cordial, respectful and even engaging but not really flirtatious as in being "on the hunt". Think about Matthew McConaughey in many of his roles or Sam Elliott in his. Self dependent and not easily tied down. In many respects, the opposite of Players. "It" just 'don't' matter that much.
Lol well glad y'all exist.
To answer your first question, yes gentlemen still exist. I would strongly suggest that over the last century socially and independently women have changed more then men, on a metaphysical level which have impacted relationships and the appreciation of such men. And I've never been called a mam's boy.
Ok i can see that
My dad left when I was 5 all I have is my mom. But knowing how to love someone and being a man aren't exclusive. If a dood lets his mom walk all over him and especially if he lets her walk all over you. Either make a change or call it off, if he can't protect you out himself from his mom how will he protect your relationship?
I AGREE. thats what i fear
At this stage when i look at my siblings and cousins who have grown up children i think mama's boys are good for parents at least till the age they start earning.. they listen to their parents study hard etc. I see satisfaction on their parent's faces. I was never mama's boy but still i waa and i am an obedient child. Being bad guy or irresponsible doesn't make u cool... it actually makes u shit
Thats true
some may be out there that ain't mommaaa's bois... i don't think i'm a momma's boi... i dont talk to her that much, i think... i've disobeyed her on a couple issues that she talked to me about... only one went wrong... i value her opinion, i know she's smart, but not in a technical sense...
As long as you dont let her run your relationships
nope... i value her opinion, but this is my life
A few believe I'm a "mama's boy" but that's only because I show more affection and care towards my mom than my dad. Some call me a "gentleman". Some call me "fine young man"
I don't know what to make of all that. I tell everyone I'm my own man and close the matter.
I think you're a gent :) i just hope your family doesn't choose who you date
Gentlemen... 🙋🏼♂️
Not a "Mama's boy" 🙋🏼♂️
Been called a "Mama's boy" 🙋🏼♂️ (single , only child till teen years-it was easy attempt to rile me)
A good man is hard to find, but so is a good woman. If it was easy everyone would have someone special
True
Considering the hate I have for my parents, I'm probably not a mama's boy. However, she has been overprotective and it has affected my life badly in a way, I'm not going to lie. That said, I would consider myself as a gentleman. I do respect women for sure, I'm all for fairness, I try my best to be honorable and courteous as well.
Did she ruin your relationships?
Here's a stinker: I am still living in the same house as my parents right now, don't know if that still technically makes me a "mama's boy". My mom doesn't necessarily follow me around though.
That said, if a girl didn't want to date me because of that I don't really take it personal, but at the same time I'm desperate to finally get out in a year or so I can be independent and finally achieve better dating prospects.
Well i wish the best for you. Im trying to get out too
Yes, gentlemen exist. The problem is the pretenders out there. The pretenders tend to be "nice guys" and trillby wearing neckbeards. Being a gentleman is simple, just be respectful and treat people like people, there are a few other things but usually it's simple stuff like if someone does you kindness do the same in return (for example, if someone buys you a drink, you buy them one)
I just meant outside of mamas boys lol. I know about the fake nice guys
I mean, I've never been called a mama's boy, but I am very loyal and love my mother very much, she's above any girl I could ever have. To a lot of people that's a turn off, it's just culture, and women who dont understand that :/ I don't know what to tell you man, good luck.
I've been a mama's boy, being triggered by staying single... did not want to go live alone. And the waiting to meet someone continued, forever.
Since 2 years I so live alone now :D
Yea just dont let her decide who you should date
I’m not a mommas boy, but consider myself a gentleman. I had a great role model in my grandfather whom I am named after (ironically was in my dream last night).
Even better :)
Thats a good question. I’ll get back to you. Let me think on that
I love my mom but I also know she's crazy... So I have taken my GFs' side in arguments but the majority of the time they don't fight...
As long as you side with yourngirl is all im askin for
Agreed if a guy will choose his mom over you is he really planning a life with you or you acting like his mom.
I used to be called a mama's boy growing up but now I get called a player, even though I'm really not.
What makes them think you're a player
My current crush seems like a mamas boy and he is very friendly to me. It's the truth that mamas boys know how to treat a lady. 😁 My ex-crush mom was too involved and I didn't like that at all.
As long as the mom doesn't run shxt then its all good 🙌
I know right😒 my ex-crush needed to man up and stop leaving everything to his mommy🤦🏾♀️
I agree
Of course. But if you’re not a lady don’t expect one to waste his time on you.
I’ve never been called a mama’s boy.
Im a lady but im saying i get annoyed with the guys who let heir moms run their relationshiosllos
*relationships
Never , I was independent since I was 13 years old always worked and didn’t rely on my parents really for anything
For the most part youve come across as a gent
All guys are momma's boys, at least until they're 30.
Lol if u say so
There are varying degrees, of course, but it's pretty much true of it's all.
Even the guys that hate their mothers, or didn't know theirs, they want to be momma's boys.
Truth is almost all guys start dating looking to find a girl to do the things their mother used to do for them (you know, pretty much everything). That they might get to have sex with the girl they pick to replace their mother, that's more of a bonus feature, well at first it is anyway.
I have never been a mama's boy and I think I am very much a gentleman.
Yes you are :)
Never remotely been called a “mama’s boy”. My mother has zero control of me either. In fact, she refers to me as her independent son. Mostly to do with my nature.
Well thats good
Thank you.
I grew up with older women around me, older sisters, thier friends etc. I an a mama's boy because I love my mum, and I enjoy seeing her but at no point does she control my life,
Ok well then good
Same! I love nurturing women who remind me of my mother ^.^
Being a gentleman has very little to do with the fact that you are mumma's boy or not. If a man can handle his relationships and keep them in balance... doesn't matter if he is a mumma's boy or not
Just a discussion me and someone else had
Never been called a mama's boy.
Never been called a gentleman straight to my face. But I heard I've been called a gentleman behind my back. 😂 Which seems weird to me.
Lol that is weird
Right? I saw one of my professors in a coffee shop. Opened the door for her, and she said " the girls from your class are right, you are a gentleman." I was like " huh? What?"
Loll ooooh
My real mother abandoned me I was adopted. My adopted mother saved my life I’m devoted to my family and I am very protective of and loyal to my mother if that makes me a Mamas Boy then yes I guess but I simply will not apologize for it
Nothing wrong with it. I just dont like the ones who let their moms dictate their relationship
She dictates nothing to me but she is wise and her words carry great weight but she supports my decisions and I support hers the same with me and my dad or me and my sister. We all rely on each other.
i am not a mama's boy, however my mother had a big part in how I was raise to respect girls, how to respect your elders and how to respect authority. Well girls and elders, two out of three isn't bad... lol ;)
Thats fine. I just dont want his fam dictating his relationships
Nope when I almost ran off to Mississippi at 17 to marry a 15 year old they stopped trying to be involved in my relationships. We got the marriage license did the blood test and then I came to my senses and realized she just wanted out of the house. We broke it off and a month later she was married to someone else. The last time I saw her she was divorced with four kids and working at burger king.
Hot damn
If anyone finds a gentleman... send him my way please ❤
Ikr lol
A guy can still honor his mum without being a 'mamas boy.'
I know i just wanna know where theyre at cause over here its hard to spit without them being a suckup
I've ran into mama's boys a lot but never really a gentleman. I'm close to my parents and vaule their opinion though
Oh wow they werent gents
Not at all, they were whining pricks I got the blame for everything lol
i ain't a mommas boy or a gentleman
but I won't lie to you to get in your pants, or for any other reason really, which will probs result in you getting offended and losing interest
LOL i notice you aaaalways keep it real. We both know i too sensitive for your blunt honesty but i still respect it
Now spicy food i actually do eat almost every meal 🤣
I know that I am a gentleman. I have a potty mouth but I am respectful and chivalrous... very giving and pleasing sexually, not selfish in any way whatsoever.
You are definitely a gent haha
Mama boy are the one who are the least gentleman out of all the men in my country XD
Oh damn
I never have, my mother died when I was little, however I am always at my father's side.
SOrry for your loss
Thank you.
Yeah they do exist but you wouldn't find one in a city often.
Where are they? Countryside?
But yeah like being polite and "Nice" do not mean one is a gentleman.
What makes him a gentleman then in your opinion
Honner
I used to me a mama's boy and now I'm not but that hasn't stopped me from treating the ladies right. Actually being a mama's boy has helped me see what women go through and why they should be respected.
* to be
No thats good. I just windered if your mom dictated your relationship
Ah right.
Well I haven't been in a relationship yet.
Ohh didn't notice
No. I've never been called a mamas boy 😄😄
They're out there.
Lol i didn't mean you haha
I'm not mama boys but I love my mother and she never argue about my previous girlfriends despite that she didn't like them.
However, I think I can call my self a gentleman , this according to my female colleagues.
Well thats good. Im glad you keep them on separate totem poles
I've been own my own since I was a teenager. but very much a gentleman. it suck sometimes to finish last at most things lol
Glad you're a gent tho
It's a gravy baby it weed out the hoes cause a freak is looking for more than a dick with a dick. and willing to make sure it's all good before it's time to make cupcakes, which your gonna need after you worked up an appetite
You say now I am just wondering how would you feel when you have children of your own and your view will change😂😉
Lmao im not gonna try to run their relationships. I’ll state my opinion but overall, if they wanna marry a hoe or something, thats on them
You obviously think that now, but once you have the connection you will always worry about there future and choices you would have your judgements and they will have there choices to make that's how the life runs mostly it's the same cycle🚴
I was brought up in a boarding school. People wished if there were another 50 students like me, then the school would be perfect.😁 I definitely was brought up to be a gentleman.
Well good :)
Mama’s boy are no good deep down they’re dependable and cry babies they need to mature and take things the way it’s handed to them not throw a fit that tells a lot about how you’re mama raised you
I see a bit of truth in that
Well, I was raised by my father. My egg donor was not around. So, I guess I was a daddy's boy. And, yes gentleman still exist. I am living proof of me. Because, I was raised to be one. Lol
Yea you are a gent and lmao
dont like mama boy. but I like gentleman. being gentleman is the way a person is being brought up
@chris_987 yea kinda which is why i said i didn't want a guy who lets his mom dictate his life (as an adult when he's dating)
@chris_987 because theyre run by their mom. Thats competition
@chris_987 im not tho. I see the evil it does
@chris_987 cause i have faith
I'm mama's girl and in general rude left to right with anyone who finds me attractive.
Damn why lol
I think they're lying.
I know when to be a gentleman and when to not be one. 😉
Ahh ok
You know me... Well..
Tell me..
In which category do I fall..
My delightful desi!..
you're a gent but Are you a mamas boy?
That depends on how you define a gentleman. I'm not a mama's boy, I'm more of a grandma's boy 😅
Oh lordy those can be worse 😂 do u let granny dictate who u date?
Ever seen that movie Grandmas boy lol
I wouldn't be concidered a moma's boy. I have been called a gentleman though.
Yes you're a gent :)
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