I think MOST of those guys are exaggerating, and some of them are ignorant (not able to understand that there's a reasonable balance), and that few ACTUALLY literally believe that women shouldn't make any real effort.
What most guys really don't want is a girl who spends 3-4 hours a day in front of the mirror, who has to change outfits 7 times a day, who has to buy new shoes because none of the (literally!) 200+ pairs of shoes she already has "look cute" with her outfit.
What they DO like is a girl who can get ready for the average day in 30-45 minutes max, and who takes care of herself without spending 1/3 of her day doing so, or making it her sole non-work focus. They also like girls who, even though they wear makeup, use a more natural look, vs. a very stylized or exaggerated look as is often seen in fashion magazines and the like. Most guys are more attracted to a fresh, girl-next-door kind of look rather than a high-fashion model made up for a photo shoot.
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They don't. What they want is a woman who is comfortable in her own skin. They don't want a woman who NEEDS to always be wearing thirteen layers of makeup, they want a woman who is comfortable and confident. That doesn't mean she cannot wear any makeup, that doesn't mean she cannot dress nice, it means that these things are not necessary for her to feel good about herself, that they are not done to garner attention to sooth her ego and insecurities. They want a woman who won't be posting half naked pictures on the internet wanting to know if she is attractive in order to feel validated.
Its got nothing to do with her not putting in effort, every man wants a woman to put in effort, he just wants her to put in effort into things that are important, like the relationship, like trying to make him happy, trying to be attractive TO HIM. I don't know how you could conflate these very different concepts.
So here's the thing. I'm that kind of girl who wakes up, puts anything on, does basic hygiene, and leaves for the day. I don't see that as not taking care of myself or putting in zero effort. I just have higher priorities. Girls who do make up or dress nice aren't bad because they do those things, it's just that it doesn't work for me. And in all honesty, I have never been asked out, nobody has ever told me they liked me. So as far as I know, you ladies who "take care of themselves or put in effort" are better off. So, where are alllll these men that prefer natural beauties? I bet most men don't hate you guys, they'd probably love to see more confidence in your natural self though. I know this is double standardy because women use the makeup for their desired men or their own confidence. Our world is a screwy place.
Guys have some weird thing about wanting a girl that's naturally beautiful. And I could imagine being with someone high mantience is super annoying so I see why they are like that.
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Obviously, it's because those men make no effort themselves and don't intend on changing that anytime soon, so they feel threatened by the women who do make effort and would, of course, prefer if they didn't because then they would perceive themselves as more adequate for that demographic of women.
No well put together man dislikes well put together women.
The men who make effort, expect to see effort from the other end as well.
I like well done nails, I like well put together women and I would always prefer an overdressed girl over someone who goes out in a hoodie and sweatpants.
Good and tasteful presentation is always a plus, there is nothing undesirable about it.Its not about little effort.
We all would prefer a partner who would look great even waking up in the morning forgeting to wash their face. Both men and women I believe. But the reality is that the average human isn't drop dead gorgeous by nature.
Personally I like a woman who values being a woman and does wear makeup and get her nails done and hair in order but I don't like when nails and hair and makeup become all that defines her. To me it's all in the character the way she carries herself no matter what she looks like makes the whole difference in how attractive she is and that's why i might take interest in a woman who actually manages to carry herself well even without much self care.Because it doesn’t look good and I don’t care about the effort. I want some actually *attractive* not someone who just tries really hard and/or fakes it.
Workouts are different because it’s not fake and actually looks good. I don’t care about your effort, I care about results. Women who have a nice body are *attractive* and that’s true no matter how hard you work for it.
I don’t care about this nebulous idea attached to a person that they “ take care of themselves “. That means nothing to me.
And makeup and stuff like that isn’t something I would associate with taking care of yourself anyway. It’s just going to a lot of effort to pretend to be attractive. I want someone *actually* attractive, hence the appeal of natural beauties.
Let’s try to get this across like so: I have a 300,000 supercar. You like that I have it right? It obviously makes me more attractive, right?People are just weird. Today, it's kind of like they think that wanting the things most people actually want is a bad thing, so they pretend to want the opposite thinking that makes them look like better people or something.
Men liking slim women? Bad. Shallow. "Actually I prefer curvy (meaning overweight) women".
Women liking muscular men? Bad. Shallow. "Actually I don't like muscles, I prefer chubby men/skinny men/men with Dad bods".
It's all bullshit really.Do what ever you want with your body. But since we care about you, we will rather think about the inconvenience that we don't want for ourself. Like why the hell will I spend a lot of money for stuffs you will erase after one day. Some fruits or vegetables like avocado have total effect on hair repair without the need of all the extract industrial chemical company. Back to basics, simplicity is difficult to apply when you think you have to be creative. Yes girl you can be creative, but so we need to know the real you after or now? That's the point. Will you want to meet the real me or after?
It's not a matter of "putting in effort". Makeup and plastic surgery are not the only way to "put in effort". They're just the easiest way.
You can still eat healthy, work out, practice good hygiene, sleep regularly, etc. And all these things take a lot of effort, and make youbmore physically attractive as result. Without coming across as a lie.
Also note. Men typically don't consciously decide what they're attracted to. They're not going to appreciate your effort no matter what it is. They're going to appreciate the result. And unlike women, most men do not like the look of overbearing makeup. And no amount of effort changes that.1. We love to kiss our sweethearts whenever we want and makeup is a huge problem.
2. We don't want our love to lose their glowing skin with the use of harsh chemicals.
3. We would rather suggest skin care instead of makeup.
4. some organic facepacks, aloevera, rosewater, we want our love to use these products instead of kylie cosmetics, loreal and stuff.
5. exercise, drink more water and and stay natural so that we can always love you wholeheartedly.
6. To be honest why do you want to put makeup if your boyfriend doesn't want it whom do you want to impress your man or other men and one more tip brothel women usually put lot of makeup hope you are not someone like them who are struggling so hard for attention.
7. I have a girlfriend, she never puts up makeup still she is the most beautiful girl for me.For me, if I say that, I mean "high maintenance." Taking over two hours to get ready, EVERY time... etc. For me, it's maybe an hour for everything; hour and a half if I want to look really good, and I'm being specific about the look (which is rare).
Also when the makeup looks caked on, unless you're on tv or in a play, it's not my thing.
Otherwise, not an issue. I don't know about other dudes.I wouldn't say I hate a woman for that just prefer women with little to no makeup. I like women, so I'm willing to accept most things women like. Though I prefer natural everything, if a women likes to dye her hair (occasionally) it's fine by me, just don't over do it. If she like to wear occasional makeup, just not excessive. Some things women just like to do, just like some things men like to do. I wouldn't hate a women for doing things that popular with women, but I'd just like to know her without modifications first.
natural beauty is so much better then fake beauty. at least in daily life.
nothing wrong with putting in the effort. to improve or enhance yourself in a natural way.
fake beauty often means the person is insecure with how they look in the mirror naturally.I tell you why, when women go though all that mess. It seems to me that they have low self-esteem issues and not happy with their looks.
I like women that don't go though all that BS, the best for me. Is someone that gets up brushes their teeth and hair, get dressed and out the door. What more do you need to do? Keep it simple and easy, men do it why can't womenI think a lot of men mainly younger ones are shifting away from wanting a playboy model girl friend to have sex with and are getting more into want a girl friend that is also a real friend and they get along with and are attracted too which usually is a girl that doesn't try to look like a model. Men still in a heartbeat would get with a cover girl model type girl but when they want a steady relationship they want someone they can really be partners with.
It's not that we dislike when women put in effort to their appearance, it's that we think they don't need to. Women can do whatever they want to their appearance for themselves, but it's not necessary to attract a guy, because guys will like you no matter what.
Just as long as she looks good without make up and dressing herself up is all that really matters , but if she likes to take the time to dress up and look even more sexier then that’s my kind of girl , she is just going to make me crave for her even more and make it harder for me to get through the day cuz I am going
To want to keep her in bed 😋I can't speak for everyone else, but I just don't care much for people who try too hard. That goes for anyone, regardless of whether it's romantic interest or just friendship. I've lost interest in females because of wearing way too much makeup and seemingly trying to pose for every single photo. And I've also stopped being friends with people who tried too hard to be funny or some other trait. Basically, I just prefer that the people I surround myself with be themselves.
Men who say they hate makeup are delusional and stupid. Women look much better with makeup on. And I swear I this is like the 10th time I said this.
My only problem is overdoing it. Some women put on way too much makeup and legit look like drag queens.Probably because they assume those girls are high maintenance and that they'll have to eventually pay for their makeup, dresses, and lifestyle. Expensive looking girls are expensive at some point. And underneath that half cm layer of makeup is a girl that probably doesn't look half as good as she does without it.
I think what most men mean when they say that is that they don't want a Doll. A woman who looks so artificial because of the effort she puts into herself. When guys say natural beauties, like no effort at all, I don't believe they understand what no effort means, therefore are naive.
Girls who go out of their way to be sexually attractive to men are percieved as sluts. Men do not want to have relationships with sluts. They do want to fuck them though.
So men who want a girl to date will not like lots of makeup. Men who are focused on casual sex will tell you its wrong and to wear makeup.I dont think its little or no effort, i think its low maintenance. I had an ex once that had to start getting ready 6 hours before a date, and 9 times out of 10 she was 2 to 3 hours late.. I can't deal with that bullshit. Additionally her makeup addiction cost her 400 to 500 per month. Its ridiculous. Its no wonder she still lived in her parents basement.
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