honestly I see so many men say they hate women who wear makeup, dress up, or get their nails done etc, Only like natural beauties, I get liking natural girls I get it wanting a natural beauty, but it’s strange to me why so many guys would hate a woman who puts effort into her appearance rather than just wakes up gets out of bed then chucks anything on with zero effort, why do you think so many men say this? I’m not talking about “high maintenance” I’m talking just a woman who takes care of herself and makes a effort what is unattractive about making a effort? Like I notice men don’t seem to have a problem about women going to the gym or taking care of her body or weight but I don’t see why a woman dressing up or making herself look nice is a bad thing because it shows they care about themselves in the same way if they work out or put effort into their bodies, surely it’s a good thing. opinions? (I know this isn't all men by the way, it’s why I put “some”)
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Why do some men basically say they want a women who makes little effort?
I think MOST of those guys are exaggerating, and some of them are ignorant (not able to understand that there's a reasonable balance), and that few ACTUALLY literally believe that women shouldn't make any real effort.
What most guys really don't want is a girl who spends 3-4 hours a day in front of the mirror, who has to change outfits 7 times a day, who has to buy new shoes because none of the (literally!) 200+ pairs of shoes she already has "look cute" with her outfit.
What they DO like is a girl who can get ready for the average day in 30-45 minutes max, and who takes care of herself without spending 1/3 of her day doing so, or making it her sole non-work focus. They also like girls who, even though they wear makeup, use a more natural look, vs. a very stylized or exaggerated look as is often seen in fashion magazines and the like. Most guys are more attracted to a fresh, girl-next-door kind of look rather than a high-fashion model made up for a photo shoot.
They don't. What they want is a woman who is comfortable in her own skin. They don't want a woman who NEEDS to always be wearing thirteen layers of makeup, they want a woman who is comfortable and confident. That doesn't mean she cannot wear any makeup, that doesn't mean she cannot dress nice, it means that these things are not necessary for her to feel good about herself, that they are not done to garner attention to sooth her ego and insecurities. They want a woman who won't be posting half naked pictures on the internet wanting to know if she is attractive in order to feel validated.
Its got nothing to do with her not putting in effort, every man wants a woman to put in effort, he just wants her to put in effort into things that are important, like the relationship, like trying to make him happy, trying to be attractive TO HIM. I don't know how you could conflate these very different concepts.
So here's the thing. I'm that kind of girl who wakes up, puts anything on, does basic hygiene, and leaves for the day. I don't see that as not taking care of myself or putting in zero effort. I just have higher priorities. Girls who do make up or dress nice aren't bad because they do those things, it's just that it doesn't work for me. And in all honesty, I have never been asked out, nobody has ever told me they liked me. So as far as I know, you ladies who "take care of themselves or put in effort" are better off. So, where are alllll these men that prefer natural beauties? I bet most men don't hate you guys, they'd probably love to see more confidence in your natural self though. I know this is double standardy because women use the makeup for their desired men or their own confidence. Our world is a screwy place.
Guys have some weird thing about wanting a girl that's naturally beautiful. And I could imagine being with someone high mantience is super annoying so I see why they are like that.
Obviously, it's because those men make no effort themselves and don't intend on changing that anytime soon, so they feel threatened by the women who do make effort and would, of course, prefer if they didn't because then they would perceive themselves as more adequate for that demographic of women.
No well put together man dislikes well put together women. The men who make effort, expect to see effort from the other end as well.
I like well done nails, I like well put together women and I would always prefer an overdressed girl over someone who goes out in a hoodie and sweatpants. Good and tasteful presentation is always a plus, there is nothing undesirable about it.
Its not about little effort. We all would prefer a partner who would look great even waking up in the morning forgeting to wash their face. Both men and women I believe. But the reality is that the average human isn't drop dead gorgeous by nature. Personally I like a woman who values being a woman and does wear makeup and get her nails done and hair in order but I don't like when nails and hair and makeup become all that defines her. To me it's all in the character the way she carries herself no matter what she looks like makes the whole difference in how attractive she is and that's why i might take interest in a woman who actually manages to carry herself well even without much self care.
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Because it doesn’t look good and I don’t care about the effort. I want some actually *attractive* not someone who just tries really hard and/or fakes it.
Workouts are different because it’s not fake and actually looks good. I don’t care about your effort, I care about results. Women who have a nice body are *attractive* and that’s true no matter how hard you work for it.
I don’t care about this nebulous idea attached to a person that they “ take care of themselves “. That means nothing to me.
And makeup and stuff like that isn’t something I would associate with taking care of yourself anyway. It’s just going to a lot of effort to pretend to be attractive. I want someone *actually* attractive, hence the appeal of natural beauties.
Let’s try to get this across like so: I have a 300,000 supercar. You like that I have it right? It obviously makes me more attractive, right?
Yes exactly so you want someone who only takes care of themselves in terms of weight or body lol, makeup isn’t about being fake some people over use it but it enhances people who are already naturally beautiful
I don’t want “enhancements” either, it’s the same thing. The superior alternative is still obviously being gorgeous all the time without any help.
If you’re going to use make then it should be totally over the top, do some crazy face paint thing rather than try to pretend to be more attractive (whether a little or a lot). The ‘touch ups to look a bit better’ thing isn’t appealing.
I decide what I like, women rationalizing to themselves that what they’re doing with makeup is good doesn’t magically influence by opinion.
People are just weird. Today, it's kind of like they think that wanting the things most people actually want is a bad thing, so they pretend to want the opposite thinking that makes them look like better people or something.
Men liking slim women? Bad. Shallow. "Actually I prefer curvy (meaning overweight) women".
Women liking muscular men? Bad. Shallow. "Actually I don't like muscles, I prefer chubby men/skinny men/men with Dad bods".
Do what ever you want with your body. But since we care about you, we will rather think about the inconvenience that we don't want for ourself. Like why the hell will I spend a lot of money for stuffs you will erase after one day. Some fruits or vegetables like avocado have total effect on hair repair without the need of all the extract industrial chemical company. Back to basics, simplicity is difficult to apply when you think you have to be creative. Yes girl you can be creative, but so we need to know the real you after or now? That's the point. Will you want to meet the real me or after?
Women tend to over estimate things like a man’s status, a man’s money, that he’s perfect emotionally, etc. Men tend to put too much value in appearances even if she looks different without makeup. Then people become resentful when let’s say he assumes she’s sugar spice and everything nice as well as always looks like that.
Men want women who look good…. And some men who are superficial expect a woman to be dolled up all the time and wake up in the mornings looking like a super model.
You mentioned high maintenance women who care more about physical appearance but don’t bring anything else to the table. Yeah that’s one issue. But some men… not all. Just want a woman whose beautiful. She wakes up beautiful and goes to bed dolled up.
It's not a matter of "putting in effort". Makeup and plastic surgery are not the only way to "put in effort". They're just the easiest way.
You can still eat healthy, work out, practice good hygiene, sleep regularly, etc. And all these things take a lot of effort, and make youbmore physically attractive as result. Without coming across as a lie.
Also note. Men typically don't consciously decide what they're attracted to. They're not going to appreciate your effort no matter what it is. They're going to appreciate the result. And unlike women, most men do not like the look of overbearing makeup. And no amount of effort changes that.
To add. The whole point of physical attraction is signal a potential mates health state, prosperity, and genetic quality. Diet, exercise and hygiene still advertise health, prosperity and genetic quality. Makeup, does not. In fact makeup can and is of term used to mask poor health, prosperity and genetics.
1. We love to kiss our sweethearts whenever we want and makeup is a huge problem. 2. We don't want our love to lose their glowing skin with the use of harsh chemicals. 3. We would rather suggest skin care instead of makeup. 4. some organic facepacks, aloevera, rosewater, we want our love to use these products instead of kylie cosmetics, loreal and stuff. 5. exercise, drink more water and and stay natural so that we can always love you wholeheartedly. 6. To be honest why do you want to put makeup if your boyfriend doesn't want it whom do you want to impress your man or other men and one more tip brothel women usually put lot of makeup hope you are not someone like them who are struggling so hard for attention. 7. I have a girlfriend, she never puts up makeup still she is the most beautiful girl for me.
For me, if I say that, I mean "high maintenance." Taking over two hours to get ready, EVERY time... etc. For me, it's maybe an hour for everything; hour and a half if I want to look really good, and I'm being specific about the look (which is rare).
Also when the makeup looks caked on, unless you're on tv or in a play, it's not my thing. Otherwise, not an issue. I don't know about other dudes.
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Anonymous
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I wouldn't say I hate a woman for that just prefer women with little to no makeup. I like women, so I'm willing to accept most things women like. Though I prefer natural everything, if a women likes to dye her hair (occasionally) it's fine by me, just don't over do it. If she like to wear occasional makeup, just not excessive. Some things women just like to do, just like some things men like to do. I wouldn't hate a women for doing things that popular with women, but I'd just like to know her without modifications first.
natural beauty is so much better then fake beauty. at least in daily life. nothing wrong with putting in the effort. to improve or enhance yourself in a natural way. fake beauty often means the person is insecure with how they look in the mirror naturally.
Just as long as she looks good without make up and dressing herself up is all that really matters , but if she likes to take the time to dress up and look even more sexier then that’s my kind of girl , she is just going to make me crave for her even more and make it harder for me to get through the day cuz I am going To want to keep her in bed 😋
I tell you why, when women go though all that mess. It seems to me that they have low self-esteem issues and not happy with their looks.
I like women that don't go though all that BS, the best for me. Is someone that gets up brushes their teeth and hair, get dressed and out the door. What more do you need to do? Keep it simple and easy, men do it why can't women
I literally didn't know how many men believed this way. I do this and have done this every day of my life. If simplicity is ehat people are looking for, where are the interested people?
I think a lot of men mainly younger ones are shifting away from wanting a playboy model girl friend to have sex with and are getting more into want a girl friend that is also a real friend and they get along with and are attracted too which usually is a girl that doesn't try to look like a model. Men still in a heartbeat would get with a cover girl model type girl but when they want a steady relationship they want someone they can really be partners with.
It's not that we dislike when women put in effort to their appearance, it's that we think they don't need to. Women can do whatever they want to their appearance for themselves, but it's not necessary to attract a guy, because guys will like you no matter what.
I can't speak for everyone else, but I just don't care much for people who try too hard. That goes for anyone, regardless of whether it's romantic interest or just friendship. I've lost interest in females because of wearing way too much makeup and seemingly trying to pose for every single photo. And I've also stopped being friends with people who tried too hard to be funny or some other trait. Basically, I just prefer that the people I surround myself with be themselves.
Probably because they assume those girls are high maintenance and that they'll have to eventually pay for their makeup, dresses, and lifestyle. Expensive looking girls are expensive at some point. And underneath that half cm layer of makeup is a girl that probably doesn't look half as good as she does without it.
I think what most men mean when they say that is that they don't want a Doll. A woman who looks so artificial because of the effort she puts into herself. When guys say natural beauties, like no effort at all, I don't believe they understand what no effort means, therefore are naive.
Girls who go out of their way to be sexually attractive to men are percieved as sluts. Men do not want to have relationships with sluts. They do want to fuck them though.
So men who want a girl to date will not like lots of makeup. Men who are focused on casual sex will tell you its wrong and to wear makeup.
I dont think its little or no effort, i think its low maintenance. I had an ex once that had to start getting ready 6 hours before a date, and 9 times out of 10 she was 2 to 3 hours late.. I can't deal with that bullshit. Additionally her makeup addiction cost her 400 to 500 per month. Its ridiculous. Its no wonder she still lived in her parents basement.
I'd say it goes for both genders. I'd say it's something like grooming, nice decent clothes and maybe some key basics of make up. Nothing over the top. Maybe some lipstick and blush something simple like that...
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Anonymous
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Women have created the beauty standard that makes looking normal less attractive. Most girls looks like gollum without make up but as men we would love a natural beauty. But these girls are rare and since we have been tricked for so long by the fake beauty, the way women look without makeup is ugly in comparison.
Women don't wear makeup for men; they wear it for other women. It's like fashion (especially haute couture). They compare themselves with other women, where a man may be happy to see his wife in cutoffs and one of his old shirts.
Because there is better things to do with her time. And if she is relax in that area it's a high likelihood that she is in other also. So a sign that she isn't high in maintenance.
Men want a women that looks natural, we mean we don't actually prefer obvious eye shadow and red lipstick. Have nice hair, a nice smile and look natural and you will look your best to us.
I can take a guess that they put little effort into their own appearance. Imagine how silly they would look if they were in public with a girl that's all done up.
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Movies have projected the idea of dating a cool girl and hateing girly girls for years. A lot of men actually want to date a guy in a beutiful girls body. It's similar of why most women choose dark, strong silent type of guys rather than shy , empathetic , emotional guys. Cause those characteristics are seemed weak in our socity irrespective of any gender
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Anonymous
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I think it's just that an average woman that's a 5 can go to a 7-8 if she does makeup correctly. Also some bras and yoga pants are deceiving and their bodies aren't actually that curvy. Men can't do too much to make themselves look better, and when they do (a tupee for example) they're made fun of. So some men are probably bitter towards that.
Its bullshit I dont know a single guy amongst my friends between age 20-29 like this Me and they like the make up nails done tight dress bit tits girls we do Any guy who says its fake and they hate it - fuck you little dick problems
It's just a difference of what she is putting her effort in. She can and should put effort into her appearance, but men would prefer that she's putting that effort into being healthy, eating well, etc...
I'm not sure why some do, I guess they just want you to be like them. I personally love it when a girl puts an effort in, especially nails. Love a girl with her nails done, it's very attractive.
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Anonymous
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Effort is good. I've never heard any man complain about effort.
But fake eyelashes, colored contacts, fake hair, fake nails, fake tits, fake asses, and piles of makeup... I mean, what are you? A master of disguise?
I don't hate if women dress up or wear make up etc. but I really find them so much more attractive looking natural. it's getting increasingly popular to look really fake these days. with both sexes.
Effort is not the issue. It’s where you focus. Applying too much makeup and having fake nails may be a cover bc you feel inadequate in your personality. “Making an effort” just means caring.
I don't really care if she's a natural beauty or has to put on makeup to look attractive. If you're wanting to put a crap ton of effort to win me over you've won me over already. It's a good thing that a woman is taking the time to dress formally.
Too much emphasis on appearance is frequently perceived as contrived.
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Anonymous
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It’s pretty much the insecure men wanting “low effort” women. Rich men and men who value women, will want the woman to be “high effort”, in appearance and relationship.
because a lot of men, are sick and tired of how women normally play a passive role when it comes to meeting men and starting a relationship.
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Anonymous
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I like less makeup. I just want to see a woman’s face. A bit of concealer and eye liner look great. When a girl wears a lot of makeup she looks ugly. You also wonder what she looks under all that mess
I should clarify you know wash and brush your hair but you girls dont need 5 pounds of makeup to look pretty. Some guys like that and that's ok. I fell in love for you not for this fake you that you seem obsessed to project
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