Why is it that in our society, men are encouraged to reply that they are single even though they may be sitting right next to a woman he's seeing?

[Bethany22]

I mean, the first moment that a woman gets a man, even after their first date, she's already telling everyone that she's in a relationship so that people stop bugging her about why she's doesn't have a boyfriend (i. e. 'what's wrong with her?'), as her status is now good. Men, on the other hand, pride themselves in acting as though they have all the time in the world to find a woman, as if they have an abundance mindset that young women will still want to go out with them when the guy is older.

So for example, at a dinner party, if someone were to ask the woman (who just went out on a first date with a guy) if she has a boyfriend, it would preserve her reputation to say 'yes!', with a huge sigh of relief that the chase is over. Meanwhile, the guy in the same situation at the party (just went on one date with a girl) will proudly say 'no, I don't have a girlfriend', and also assuming his reputation is preserved.

Why are women encouraged to act desperate and chase after relationships at an early age whereas men are encouraged to have fun at the expense of women's desperation at their respective young age?

[Rosexøxø]

Never heard of any of this tbh.. and I’ve been studying and neutral with men for many years now.

Maybe to some ‘many’ is overstated, but I do have more than just the occasional random occurrences and interactions.

I never met nor assumed a man would be dating and call himself single unless he was deliberately cheating.

A man would only declare he’s in a relationship if he’s proud of who he is with.

His pride and fondness would overlap- in the most ideal sense.

Men who aren’t in love with who they’re with would not brag about it and may even be ashamed. If not taking a toll on his confidence, he’d most likely say single because he understands who he is with is not long term.

If you heard any man say those words while in a relationship or dating you- it’d be best to call it off because as direct as he is- he already made up his mind about you- or whoever the girl was that he was “dating.”

I understand your search for truth and some true frustrations in the dating scene, but a lot of these parts don’t seem to correlate and seem a bit mixed.

Men don’t rush it not because of rep but because they want to have fun and haven’t met a girl they’d want to be serious with.

Also depends on their personal form beliefs. If they believe they can still love and die for her without marrying her- he may never “claim” her legally. He may just be loyally attached to her.

She could interpret that information as she saw fit.

Women do put a lot of pressure on themselves. Men aren’t telling them to hurry and marry- their mothers say that lol

Their conscience says that when they see all their lady friends have babies-

for WHATEVER reason lol

Women have to learn and understand the earth actually doesn’t need more kids rn. Give yourselves a rest about trying to produce. It’s not your sole purpose. It’s a high responsibility when it matters, but it’s not a matter of issue in importance rn.

Have fun finding someone to live and grow with.

Find someone to laugh with.

If yo I really believe you need some non existent person in your life via procreation, that’s a WRONG mindset to have. Happiness really needs to stop being dependent upon people.

It is not the man’s job to provide you with a sperm and child later on.

Be free to live YOUR life,

and for whatever reason you MUST and WANT a baby of your own, it would not matter about reputations or even who the dad was- you’d just want the bundle of joy, that resembled you as well (possibly)?

It’s all about priorities. We must all stop making decisions based on what others are doing.

It creates either:

a.) sense of anxiety

b.) stagnation

c.) regression

d.) unnecessary duplication/ replications.

My advice to women-

• If you want a baby:

go about it as you ought to

• if you want a date:

go about it as you ought to

• if you want people to respect you:

realize you can’t force them, you must respect yourself

[AmeerX]

The Mom's of the girls who tell them to marry fast are not wrong. Most women have to compete with younger generation. Men don't have to do the competition especially in Hook up cultures. They are getting what they need without the usual plant the garden and then grow and then pick the fruit.
I mean what kind of a dumbass woman would fall for the 3 dates rule for sleeping with a man. Non the less without having a child from him.
Let's see how many girls would be doing it and how many boys would be escaping the hook up culture if government banned the contraceptive industry.
Women have been fooled by the mindset

[Tracker1958]

MGTOW Men Going Their Own Way. No benefit In having a relationship any more.

[AmeerX]

@Tracker1958 actual can't say for everyone but these men need to stop going there own way and start looking for proper women too. They may have gotten burned in relationships but they can settle with a good woman even in this age

[Tracker1958]

@AmeerX Any woman can trun bad over night and the Government and the state will help her destroy her man. No, men should avoid women until the laws become fair to both sexs.

[AmeerX]

@Tracker1958 God man, do you think how many woman would want to be with these men? You think like you don't have an option. A lot of women live outside US too. If these men want someone traditional they can look for the entire world.
And no, many people do relocate to the wife's home country too. It might seem like needle in haystack but more than 60% of educated women in my country prefer moving for better facilities in exchange for keeping with one man.

Possibilities exist to twist the law.

[Tracker1958]

@AmeerX `No one know for sure just how big MGTOW is because it has no headquarters, or need for men to sign up. We do know for sure it's up in the millions world wide. Men are losing interest in marriage completely. Hooking up is the new dating for men. No long term relationships either.

[AmeerX]

@Tracker1958 not everyone is looking for hookups. A lot of westerners actually want to settle down like rest of the world. So, I don't think people should feel this way. Natural is people settle and form families. Hook up is unnatural with potentially unlimited people one can sleep with and life would end before that
STDs are common in the hook up people for that reason . They want to spread it and that reducing fertility in the developed world. If that was not so and just economic reason was the sole cause then European countries with extremely high per Capita income would be having higher birth rate and they wouldn't need fucking immigrants to support them

[Tracker1958]

@AmeerX. Men, save your seed. Keep women single and childless.

[AmeerX]

@Tracker1958 I think even if I became infertile (hope not) I did let my spouse find an appropriate donor.
So no I love kids if they are mine or from someone else's seed. Why are you so unhappy about it? Don't be hopeless

[Tracker1958]

@AmeerX 90 percent of men would not go there. Not my kid, not my money to raise it.

[AmeerX]

@Tracker1958 I think God will punish me if I thought of the innocent souls like that. No I would not forgive cheating though as would anyone but even in cheating I don't think I would take my anger on children

[Tracker1958]

@AmeerX. The only reason for divorce in the Bible is infidelity. The only one GOD said you could divorce a woman. HE also said stone her and the man she cheated with. That's how serious He took it.

[AmeerX]

@Tracker1958 but keep the childrensafe.

[Rosexøxø]

@Tracker1958 god doesn’t exist dude… get over yourself lmao

I’ll sum it up as this: We live in a man’s world. All from the renaissance, to the industrial revolution- defenses, arts, and sciences. Men have formed the molding of the society and manipulated the constructs of planet earth to be suitable for his living. If you have ANY complaint in today’s age and era, you would be best to complain to a man of authority or high status. IF you actually meant to bring about some sort of “shift.”

But here’s the breakdown:

Ecclesiastical courts (how paradoxical- since you BELIEVE in GOD- assuming the judean one) upheld ‘Alimony’ for COUPLE SEPARATION, when DIVORCE was considered to be illegal. The same men who are against divorce and believe in the same god as you… had created this, and enforced this law to ensure a woman- who would not be able to make a living back in those days and be considered “blemished/ unworthy,” would be supported… and kept ALIVE because for her to STARVE TO DEATH all because of a divorce bashing/ decreasing her “hierarchical “worth,” would be incredulous. Back then- UNACCEPTABLE.

Anyways, moving forward, we had the men of America: somewhat Protestant in their backgrounds and some catholic- they upheld, launched, and enforced this use of alimony in America, around the year 1975!!

So it’s still relatively “new” as far as country growth and progression goes.

Furthermore, child support was also added to the same Social Security Act, specifically in Title IV, section/ part D.

This was to ensure a helpless, UNKNOWING child, would receive *basic life sustenance,* as they are a *neutral part,* and still BIOLOGICALLY part of the father’s DNA.

You know what you sound like? The male version of the women who want abortions, to show men that “their body is their own-“ by KILLING INNOCENT CHILDREN- which (is also unacceptable) could have been avoided with early planning and simply having a good conduct of responsibility.

[Rosexøxø]

You, and those who speak as you do- are the equivalent because you speak against marriage and divorce, and these fundings because of your anger at women; an anger fueled, only by a FEW SHORT ENCOUNTERS you, yourself, had with them, which turned out to be unpleasant.

You don’t even successfully bother the women in this, but you (like the pro-abortion females) take out your anger on the children, who get caught up in that avoidable and unnecessary mess, and have to live with a financially unstable mother or father, and you go out of your way to spew this- this- hate propaganda, to young men, so they will follow you to your “dusty grave of gaydom.”

You’re a people hater; you’re anti-unity; all because you hold grudges at someone you can’t physically punch, otherwise other men in power would jail you because again..

THEY MADE THESE LAWS-

THE “GOD-FEARING MEN” OF YESTERYEAR.

You fail to follow their footsteps to the tee

And you REFUSE to evolve and be resilient, in today’s age, where we all move on and solve our problems like mature people.

[Rosexøxø]

So YOU SIR, are by some definition, somewhere, an alien, and you don’t fit into any type of society. You deliberately isolate yourself from the community, and wish to draw other men to you for your own ego and boost of confidence.

It will not work because it’s not a matter if women will always be here or not, but a matter of FACT, that there will always be GOOD MEN, here in this world, to avenge the helpless. The weak. The unfortunate. The disadvantaged. The ones who receive no justice or mercy. Whether they be woman, man, boy, or girl.

Again, I say if you have any real complaint or issue, use your own mouth in the democracy and in Congress, and if you should be placed in an unpleasant predicament by your OWN CHOOSING, ask your lawyer who will have a high chance of being a male (brother) to defend your case.

Why do you feel that you lose sir? With all these men around you?

Are you truly saying a weak woman, as the Bible states the weaker vessel, she has DEFEATED YOU?

Your perceptions are off, and you do not follow a clear path- not religious traditions nor modern trends.

Watch yourself, and watch the world go on without you, to only evolve and solve BIGGER PROBLEMS in the frameworks and rationale contributed by the men, and few women, before us.

[Rosexøxø]

I say all this because you attach your horrific folly to my simple answer to this posted question.

I really don’t have much else to say because I’ve literally covered every single LOGICAL point, and call you and the pro abortions women,

As well as anyone in these gender wars

EQUALLY doomed to further insanity.

I sympathize with those who have been hurt by a few men or women. The point is to effectively explain yourself, grow up, move on, live your VERY OWN LIFE.

None of us are immortal, so what you must, but your speech on my comment is an eye sore.

Just TRY to argue with this well solidified logic and try your very best to insult me, and I will consider it dead.

Get the help you need, move on, and let the things of the past remain the past. You fuel an old fire.. that must be tiring.

[Rosexøxø]

Men got their own way oh sthu. Go your way stop trailing fire works behind your bum and declaring this to the world-

Just DO IT.

The best to you and your ventures and endeavors- within good morals and ethics ☝️😁

[Rosexøxø]

@AmeerX thank you for your claims. You sympathized well with him, which for me in this particular matter was too incredulous to even be a challenge. You also kept logic intact.

I hope he listens to your words, as well. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders and don’t favor anyone in these matters but the right and the truth. 🤝

[Tracker1958]

So, if there no God. Then there's no reason why people can't just killing each other like the animals kingdom does. Survival of the fittest. Nothing to stop any one from just taking what they want, we just animals remember. If your going to reduce us to just animals then we can live like the animal kingdom does.

[Rosexøxø]

@Tracker1958 I didn’t. YOU did.

That’s where we see your logic and my own come in to play-

Just because I don’t believe in a god does not automatically determine how I gage the worth of other people, and this RARITY of life.

I don’t need a “deity” to respect the people I see with my own two eyes, and treat them as equal members of our demographic, and being the superior in the scientific food chain.

If there is no god- you’d mistreat people, and that means you only treat others well because you think someone more powerful than you, decreed this, or will judge you if you didn’t respect their lives.

I’m not highly reactionary, especially in morals and ethics. I’m sometimes correspondent, and otherwise make all my decisions independently, and dependent only upon my own ‘ambitions of good,’ in the short life I have.

That’s all you proved with that statement: you and I are the same in some ancient fundamental ways, and we are highly different in our perceptions and treatment of people.

This is not something I would debate with you- it’s merely a fact.

You and I are different. <—-> I would agree with this statement.

[Tracker1958]

If there's no God, then why does it matter? Where do we get our laws from? Did we drag them out of our butts? God laid down our laws that the world lives by. Don't kill, steal. Rape. And all the rest of them. But if there's no God then all those laws mean nothing. People can do what ever they are strong enough to do or take. You ladies better hide under the bed. It's open sessions on sexual assault. All the laws we have come from the word of the GOD you say doesn't exist.

[Rosexøxø]

@Tracker1958 you’re the one making these matters even a matter 😂

I couldn’t look you in the eye and answer for JUST WHERE these religions came from. I believe in human hallucinations, as well. If people can see mirages or dream dreams, then the mind is powerful enough to construct “paranormal activity.”

It’s incredulous to me. I’m an ex-Christian, by the way. Saved at 7- my own choice.

19 years of my life with seeking, nothing but the VOICE of God; not a solution, not a party hat- his voice.

The one described, to appear before Moses, amidst the burning bush of Mount Sinai.

I’ve done my observations with an open heart (not an opposing one), only to find vacant wastelands in the spiritual realm.

There is no communication. The people who believe they hear, only talk about their own conscience.

I would have to assume, their conscience developed this safe world of morals, known as Christianity. It’s part of who I am today.

This is just a scattered selection of points I mention. I can’t justify the laws of the bible and it’s texts- all I know is humans have wrote that. I declare- I’m not theologian.

I personally searched for GOD ALONE. In a quiet still place. I didn’t have need or use for the world, but I won’t drag this on further-

I appreciate and love a life of gratitude for life itself.

You’re switching the subject on to religion and a person’s personal beliefs.

I won’t go out of my way to debunk your belief in god because I think that holds a grain of importance. I will not go out of my way to shatter the beliefs of any person, unless I saw direct harm to it.

Christianity gives people hope.

I don’t interfere with other peoples’ sense of WILL.

I will say, as far as you talking bad about the government- that is your own brethren.

The laws- written and scribed by men.

If you believe in god, and want to make this religious- I would spin it on you and say to love your neighbor as yourself, if you do not love a female wife as yourself.

[Rosexøxø]

Jesus taught compassion. Think of things which are pure and good.

What you spew is the opposite.

Are you satan’s gambit, then?

Who do you represent?

Why do you speak?

You certainly are in a jumble.

I won’t pick at the strings.

I said what I said earlier about laws and treating others right. 👐

I say, if you’re going to GO Your own way

Then go..

Don’t need a farewell party or followers like you were Jesus himself.

Jesus even says the wife and husband to be one flesh.

If unmarried, he says all are made in his image. Of God.

You follow the religion poorly, you follow the idea of Jesus poorly, you follow modern society poorly.

What is in front of you?

What are you trying to accomplish here, today?

I am at peace within my own self and say to you- women are not at fault for concepts and laws like alimony and child assistance.

You are angry? You may as well blame the devil and speak for Christ?

What you speak has no focal point, but the driver behind it is clear resentment.

I don’t think I can even follow along in this conversation as I don’t see your point,

Don’t see what you’re trying to gain out of all of this,

and at the foundation-

I disagree with you. 🤷‍♀️

[AmeerX]

Rosexøxø I I am not a Christian but a Muslim. We had husbands gift in our marriages. And anything he gave to the wife stays with her. She can even stay in the same home as the husband after the divorce. She can leave if she wants but husband should not hurt her but make it as Amicable as possible. Albeit, it is not practiced universally.
I feel a wife or girlfriend is to be protected and loved 🙂. And fyi I think even in an atheist society institution of marriage kept relatively intact in some form to safeguard and limit polygamous tendencies.

Tracker1958 is just taking his share of heartbreaks too personally.

Hey I did marry a single mom even if that's what it takes provided she swayed me and was God fearing. I don't think people should be fighting these gender Wars. It's the devil's work at best. How else will human race go instinct if not for the bright idea to become each other's children's enemy. No this must be stopped. And all the women who want to abort aside from medical reasons should just give the children to adoption. I seriously felt grief seeing all these childless couples wanting children and then there is women who are just going about having an abortion. I mean come on, don't you have better things to do? This is so sickening 🤢.

Even terrible is babies from rape victims. Come on people what's her fault and the child's fault. Give them some slack and breathing space too. It's so terrible that people are willing to throw literally a million dollars to have a child on one hand and throw away a baby on the other. Help them reach each other out is what I would say.
God of no God is one's choice I don't care about it

[Rosexøxø]

@AmeerX you make a lot of valid points and I can’t tell you enough, how much I appreciate you sharing your views. Who couldn’t help feel a little bit more enlightened when and after they read such validity stated here.

And with many of these points mentioned, I do agree. I hope (and don’t need to hope much) that your marriage prospers, as well as all of your public/friend relations, and for you- nothing but the best, on all your future ventures and endeavors 😊👐

[Tracker1958]

Women only say they are in a relationship when she not interested in the guy that's asking, if the guy is good looking then she will say not really. 🐒 branch to the next best man.

[AmeerX]

@Tracker1958 they would stop branching if they are tied to you by marriage

[Rosexøxø]

@AmeerX okay I guess it’s okay for saying that. Maybe it’s my kink lol but you guys can’t tie people to you Lmaoo

loyalties people loyalties!

21 savage said it well!! 😭🤜🤛

[AmeerX]

Lol, I meant it in a positive way. Loyalty in marriage is rewarded with more loyalty. But even if she is unfaithful he can get a divorce.

[Rosexøxø]

@AmeerX well said, yes. I agree 🙌🤝

[AmandaYVR]

I don't think it's society that is encouraging these behaviours. It's the differences in general outlook that factor in most.

A lot of females (used to, but not so much anymore) want a committed relationship. Males, on the other hand, are often worrying about what they will give up if they get involved in one. It is probably rooted primarily in our biology as a species.

[Lionman95]

I think you misunderstand something about the status of a relationship. To me a woman is my girlfriend the moment I ask her out. Just if we just have been to one date we´re not in a relationship nor exclusive yet. So from a guy´s point of view there´s no relationship we´re in even if the woman has made up her mind and thinks of us a couple.
The reason for that is that as a guy I always make the decision if I want to go out with a woman after having gone on dates with her because as being the one taking iniative I always have to spread my interest to increase the chances of a match.
From my point it´s not that easy as you make it look because as a guy I have to get in contact with quite a few women to find one to get a conversation going that´s also interested in a meet up and potential date.
For me spreading my interest widely at first and later while meeting narrowing that down is a kind of protection mechanism to bond too quickly with a woman that then rejects me.
To be fair there are quite a lot of guys that don´t have a relationship in mind, they want to play around and never settle down for different reasons.

[Summeroflove]

People are different. Someone shouldn’t be calling someone their boyfriend/girlfriend if they’re not though and it was just a date. I personally wouldn’t appreciate it and it can cause problems.

But it’s also shitty to lie and say you’re not with someone and you are.

I don’t know why some people act like this. It’s like they have something to prove

[Emiliamazing]

What a wonderful question! It's almost as if the men are playing hard to get, which is something many women are accused of :-).

[Tracker1958]

Men are putting women in the FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY category. Don't plan on keeping any of you for long.

[loveslongnails]

For one thing, a man doesn't consider himself "in a relationship" after one date, and neither should a woman. I also do not agree with your dinner party assessment, unless you're talking about a very immature man. If that topic were to come up a dinner engagement, as it has for many no doubt, a sensible man would simply say " we're working on it", and smile :).

[MikeInHawaii]

I might seek clarity over a yes or no answer. Does single mean “not married,” or “totally unattached?” I once had a woman tell me she would absolutely, positively never date a coworker, that’s just wrong.

We were coworkers and I had taken her out to dinner on about a half dozen occasions, at prearranged times and locations.

[genericname85]

i don't know in what weird parralel universe you live. but where i live, it's actually quite frowned upon when men do that.

[Emiliamazing]

Good yo hear!

[LiamJHayden]

Partly due to what you pointed out, and also partly due to the way different people view what constitutes a relationship. I have gone out on two dates with a girl and had her think we were boyfriend and girlfriend when we had not discussed a commitment at all, nor really done anything that would reasonably imply one.

[bamesjond0069]

Because men are the gatekeepers of relationships. Men shouldn't commit too quickly just as a virgin woman shouldn't just have sex with the first man who asks her.

And "that young women will still want to go out with them when the guy is older." FYI. They do. I'm 36 and my girlfriend is 20.

[Shy_Steve]

Because you Girls keep dating the same type of Guys and keep ignoring the ones that don't do that.

[Sixgunsound]

I can honestly say I have never been encouraged to pretend I am single. Where are you getting your information from?

[Bethany22]

Steve Harvey

[Sixgunsound]

He could have had a different experience than I did as we are all individuals.

[Kaneki05]

Only ones who do that are cheaters so run away from guys like that. And as for guys been encourage to cheat that's a toxic side of men.

[Guardian45]

Ya, I ALWAYS tell people I'm married, even though I'm single.

[aaron210419]

I've never been encouraged to do this or ever heard of anyone else either. If I'm in a relationship then every other girl may as well be invisible to me.

[FunkyMonkee]

News to me! Maybe, in those cases, single just means, unmarried.

[TacosRAwesome]

Is this an actual thing? Because until someone makes it official I'm single.

[Mansearching]

I don't. If im with someone i say im in a relationship regardless if they arr by me of not.

[shortster]

I don't know. Once we became official I told anyone that asked, changed my Facebook status, and deactivated my dating apps.

[Anonymous]

Some men do that , some men do different and that scare some women , some women do that and that scare some men , some women actually date multiple guys and never tell others. There are all sorts of people

[KrakenAttackin]

No. Wrong. You are talking about Giga Chad's who are the smallest percentage of the population.

[Tracker1958]

Because he is single and planning to stay that way.

[DizzyDesii]

Encouraged? Nah those are just lyin mfs

[dustybiker]

Are they? Not in my social circles.

[TopTier]

Seeing someone doesn't make you a couple.

[peedy]

I've never noticed that

[jimmy2]

That so wrong if he lies bye he will never quit

[Anonymous]

They aren't