Of course "not all men" but a lot of men seem to be overly obsessed with money? Like why? It's seriously annoying when men brag about their money. Nothing could make my š drier then when I hear men talking about money like it's the most valuable thing in life š¤®
Well... that's interesting @Apple1996. So here is the deal, I have gone on dates with 17 different women in the last two years. I own my own place, bought and paid for. I drive nice cars, paid cash. I make over 110K a year. I live alone and I am single.
After 17 different woman, I am still single and I still live alone, I still make over 110K a year, my house is still my house, and my bank account is still not empty. All those things are real and tangiable. But I have not found love, and I am told money isn't important, but its what I got. I have a lot more to offer of course then just that, but here is a new flash... woman are opinionated. They are just as closed minded as everyone else and we all know the wealth is a measure of sucess.
So I am successful, and I can prove that... because I bet, I got more money than you. But yes, you might be happier in life than me, with your kids and marriage. I am very grateful and happy for you. But I got none of that in my life, and my money really doesn't make me any happier than I already am.
I make more than I can spend in month almost, and I will have that guaranteed for life. Women on the other hand, I do not have a woman, and even if I did, it's not guaranteed for life... so money holds a real and true value where as love is fickle.
I completely agree with your point "not all men". But I agree, I have also run into this line of thinking quite frequently. Something that Iāve noticed over the years is that men assume women are impressed by the things that impress other men. Men flaunting their cars, shoes, and money doesnāt do it for me either. Of course, itās nice to see that a potential partner has the financial stability to support me. However, these items are usually referred to as symbols of status. As metaphorical keys that should magically unlock access to the hottest women they can find. Because thatās what other men have told them.
Another thing that I have noticed is that men who are obsessed with money will throw around the word gold-digger. Even if these men donāt have money. They are usually insecure about themselves and refuse to look introspectively. So, theyāll find a crutch to place the blame on. Money. I hear āwomen donāt want me because Iām brokeā more often than Iād like to admit from men who could benefit from strengthening their communication skills or improving their personal hygiene. Sometimes it feels like men get their dating advice from other men who have yet to meet a woman. It feels like the collective mindset is "as long as you have symbols of status, you don't have to develop yourself as a person".
Money is a proxy for labor, mental and physical. You can't trade man hours of hard work, it needs an intermediate storage, and that's money.
To diss money is to diss the effort that built the world around you. To take for granted the risks and ideas of those that both succeeded and failed, often with the expense of their lives.
If men (or women) have legitimately obtained money, they should be respected. But flashing wealth is also disrespect and usually a sign of showy use of bankrupting credit than actual wealth.
lol love the phrasing and picture :)
I think for many they feel it is a status symbol - makes them think they are cool and important. I find it funny when I see guys like that - especially the ones who are "look at me" types.
Flashy expensive car, dressed over-the-top no matter where and bragging amount things/money/etc. - and yes, you also see lots of "babes" around them - never know if using them or not - and I don't care, live and let live - but it's alway struck me as funny :) Even more so are the frauds - and I've known many - with over extended credit, monster debt, etc.
I much prefer the understated, well-off types who don't flash it but don't squirrel it away either.
For me, money is a means and freedom - nothing more, nothing less. I don't care if anyone knows how much I make - it doesn't change my relationships - or who I enjoy spending time with - but it does allow me to do things I want to do when I want to do them (and avoid things I don't want to do i. e. cutting the grass lol).
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Did u wake up and decide to send me a subliminal diss? Money is everything. You just always had it and the security of it so you have no idea what it's like without and no I don't wanna hear ur child hood about how u had less sometimes I'm talking about having zero and nothing but zero? You ever actually starved as a kid, you ever actually been to a food bank with bugs in there food? So u can't even eat it. You ever been evicted with tour stuff on the side walk with nowhere to go? You ever lived I. A shelter?
You ever had no family to ever support u if stuff went wrong? You ever slept in a car and could not afford a shower or food? U ever could not afford blankets and gloves for yourself so u had to freeze? You ever had a hole in your roof so when its winter you were freezing? You ever had to wah your clothes in a bathroom sink with just kitchen detergent from the dollar store and then had a crap dryer that barely dried anything so u smelled like wet dog all. the time?
You ever actually been dirt broke? No then I don't wanna hear it. Let me know when ur children starve, and you starve with them. And let me know when u can't clothe them and let me. know when ur actually in a women shelter with them one day.
Everything I listed is why money is important no do not argue with me that you personally don't have any money but you have your husband's money to spend and yes he does have money coming in despite the economy. You guys are nit dirt broke and if u always had a roof over your head u never been dirt broke.
That's why money matters and money is everything. And every man who is obsessed with money is a smart man, if u wanna date a loser who smokes Weed and lives in his moms basement with no ambition, ir u want ur off spring to grow up like that, then go ahead and pretend this world isn't ruled by money.
This is definitely a direct question, that I have either provoked or is addressed towards me directly.
As much as we wish this wasn't true. What GIRL or WOMAN (not counting transgirls) on earth loves "cheapskates" (definition: men, that can't buy their women food and drinks and dates and gifts. Insufficient bank balance! No colorful paper with numbers on it!)?
And then it comes to long term planning for the future and maintaining stability in life? Resources and securities are key and for a very long time money fills that exact role.
I get it. Money is just plain colorful paper with numbers on it and it is aromantic. Yet it is the very thing enabling fun dates and relationships in the first place.
Who else is gonna bring in the money to make all that happen? It's definitely not the government and hopefully not our parents.
Being a man means doing something you hate doing because you have no other choice left. And we are still surprised how many men are turning into transgirls to evade THAT type of pain in the ass?
I'm not a big fan of gold diggers, so I've only told a small handful of women what I make, and even that was very broad strokes. I've only told one woman what I'm worth, because honestly that's nobody's business until/unless it comes time to liquidate everything and flee underground. I don't drive fancy cars, and if you don't know anything about guns, wine or art then you wouldn't have much cause to think there's a lot of expensive stuff in my house.
The guys that loudly exclaim at the bar how much they make are the same one's complaining later that "all women are gold diggers"... well... there's probably a connection there perhaps...
They get the gold diggers, they complete each other. Let them be!
My cup of tea though. I don't think it's wise to show it off because you'll attract gold diggers, or worse burglars or something. I know I'm paranoid! Showing off and smacking me with the face with it, I don't like that either.
But success is measured by income. Our society works that way, many people will judge you if you work let's say in a mcdonalds vs a lawyer or something. And making a lot of money is quite an achievement in life. So I think it's okay to be proud of it, just don't smack it in my face.
Scarface has the reason why, simply put. In this country if you want anything, you need money. First you get the money, then you get the power, then when you get thebpower, then you get the women.
Money is a tool for surviving and if don't have it, you die. You need money for food, for shelter, and transportation. So yeah, money is something guys are focused on. No one is going to help you as a grown ass adult. Plus it is also the only way we get the other things we desire outside of the necessities.
The guys that have to brag about it don't usually have as much money as you would think. Lots of guys making over 100k are living paycheck to paycheck. Not that 100k is a lot these days but it's enough to live comfortable, take vacations, save money and donate to charity.
Probably because we generally end up paying for everything for ourselves, to having a car, home, nice clothes etc needed to attract a woman to the first date with a woman, supporting a wife and kids, living a good lifestyle and if a marriage ends alimony and child support. Everything is money for most men. Meanwhile most women go from living under their parent's roof or their lifestyle subsidised by their folks in some way to being under their husband's finacial support.
I definitely wouldnāt say all do and just because some do seem to be obsessed with money (or bragging about it) doesnāt necessarily mean they have it (but they might?). It really comes down to self confidence an accepting of yourself. I grew up with little and have progressed to a fairly comfortable placeā¦. I have seen people from all walk of life and various levels of wealth (or lack there of) that have been obsessed with $ā¦. Itās definitely not something that needs to be boasted aboutā¦.. Alternatively, I would run from any female asking too many monetary questions early in the dating/courtship process.
Even though the concept annoys me so much too, it makes sense why so many beings, especially me cling on to their tokens of hope. Because humans have made it so that they can objectively improve quality of life! And if a mans quality of life is improved, he is a healthier man, which is good for survival & reproduction.
Most men who are successful could care less about their woman making money. She provides youth and beauty. But a guy with money often does not have a lot of time or attention for his woman, and they believe having money and status is all they have to do to attract a good woman.
... Which often means he will attract a gold-digger who will cheat on him, because she's in the relationship for the wrong reasons.
I can't say. I guess to have to prove something although I have no idea what. Maybe they actually think girls like guys with money and they can buy presents... Half the time I don't understand guys😅
I have mountains of money More than I can spend but I give shit about money and givemost of it away. ( animal shelters, animal cruelty prevention and more)
I'm not obsessed by it.. Why should. I? I obsessed on giving it to people who need I more then me...
My parents taught me early on, money is just a means to an end, it doesn't make you who you are and should never trump the people in your life.
After all, it doesn't matter how much crap you accumulate in life, it's who you share it with that's most important.
I'm actually a socialist. Yet, I do have to pay for things like everyone and anyone else, even like the capitalists. Though I'd like to think, I vote better and I spend/save better than they do. Trial and error, like aging and life experiences and, life styles. And voting habits 😋😋😋👀 lucky me, gratefully, peace ā🏻🥳
I guess maybe they think it makes them more attractive or makes up for their short comings?
The first few dates I always used my pickup.
It wasn't new but in very good shape and clean so they wouldn't think I had money, and I would hope that they wanted me for who I am not what I have.
I don't mind if a person cares a lot about money. Everyone should. It's only natural.
But don't expect special treatment because of that. Many men feel they should have dates and house full of children because they make xyz amount of money.
It's really something. The audacity.
Those know that they will have to provide to the wife who would not work after having a baby. So they think thatās how they impress the woman.
Whatās the problem with that thinking? For wanting to provide fir the family. So much better than obsessing over drugs, gambling, other womenā¦ etc.
I think modern women donāt understand men or appreciate the hard work they provide.
thatās why so many men are depressed and women are crazy.
Probably because they are valued by how much they earn. Just like women are valued mostly for our look. The only thing I canāt stand is when they whine about how women only want them for their money, but they are broke to begin with lol.
I guess in some ways I am guilty of this obsession. I am trying to create / develop a system that generates enough passive income so that I don't have to work. If my current trajectory holds that will be in about a decade. But I do not see money as anything other than a tool.
In most cases, is not necessarily money that we're obsessed with, but sex, and the most assured method of being able to have intercourse with a varied assortment of attractive women is to acquire lots of money.
We pay for the dates, we need to survive, the inflation rate in society is insane, there also vehicle, vehicle maintenance, gas, utilities, basic working class taxes, rent/mortgage, property taxes you have to pay every year so the government doesn't take your house (even if you fully own it), anyone who has school debt, food expenses, home furnishing, home repairs, home upgrades, appliance replacement,... simply put, with society norms for romance and just trying to survive and function in society, it takes a hell of a lot of money, especially when it comes to having a family and normally it's the men that have to shoulder the financial burden.
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