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I don't know if it matters honestly.
There are some ugly guys with great confidence and I still wouldn't date them. So I guess that answers your question
I get suicide thoughts too but I actually call people for help when I think I'm hitting rock bottom.
i have no one to call
Concentrate on getting a good carreer, girls want someone who can take care of them (cash). Girls I guess you should look for someone who's not really very attractive, but who is into working out and who's confident.. it's the least you could ask for.
Even (more) attractive people have a hard time sometimes, don't give up on your love life
im not attractive at all and second why can't girls get theyre own jobs
We do get our own jobs. Just take your own responsibility.. when we're out earning serious money, we don't want you on the couch.
I'm not going to answer to the 'i'm not attractive' part, because I already knew that. Just work with what you do have.
i work with what I have and still doesn't do a thing
Then wait because you can't expect everything to happen when you want it to. The universe isn't at your feet and the world doesn't turn at your pace.
did I say that ? why does every average-good looking guy get to date , and no girl lets me be her friend
It's not true that every guy gets to date girls. You'll just have to find someone who likes your personality.. and it may take some time to find that person. Have some more patience.
its been 19 years . I'm sorry for being negative . Its just been too long
No won't help. Find a girl who is at your level of attractiveness. If your a 3 find a 3, or if your a 5 find a 5. But a girl who is a 3 will probably not talk to you because she is most likely very shy and introverted and unused to a guy hitting on her... so it will take time. Ur last option is becoming rich and getting a mail order bride or sugarbaby... idk.
you again ? read the question before answering
I did I even read your updates. How did I not answer your question? I very simply stated in three words... no won't help.
you said go after girls your league . I said I don't , and you answer the same thing every time to everyone (mail order bride)
This is the very first time I have ever said anything bout mail order bride -_-
And you should read your own question because no where in there does it say, I don't go after girls my league.
said I lowered my standards
Lower them much more then.
Lower them then gtfo idiot
I hate to say this but confidence does not matter if a guy is unattractive to a female.
On a side note just because the girls you hit on so far have not found you attractive does not mean that all girls will. My friend and I have completely different taste in men, the guys she finds attractive, I think are really unattractive and vice versa.
what about 107 women
Rejection sucks. I can't deny that. You are looking at it wrong though. You are now a 107 women closer to the one that will not reject you.
Get rejected by a 100 guys then say that
you have no idea how it feels
I have been rejected. Sure not by a hundred guys but still rejection sucks, no matter how you look at it. If you want to give up, that's your prerogative. I can't say I blame you but at the same time, if you really want to meet someone then you have to keep trying because sooner or later you will meet her.
why can every guy date women until he meets one , while I'm only made to be spit on by girls
what you should do is play it very cool and smooth as in if a women doesn't let you approach you act like nothing happened and have grin on your face as if you know something they dont. that way other girls will start to get intrigued. If you look at some of the rock stars they are sin ugly but they have confidence so they get all the girls lol. so yeah confidence matter a lot
rockstars have a lot of money , plus the era they were in . People cared about music , not looks/breasts
Lol um I'm pretty sure rock stars confidence doesn't matter, woman wanna sleep with famous ppl
you will win some and lose some. It doesn't really matter tbh. Keep searchin' you will eventually find it. Do you have a pic of your self with some clothes? Maybe I should take off this arrogant pic and put a real picture of me. Just learn how to approach her nicely and eye contact is huge and smile. Implying you have nice teeth. If those don't help they try to go on chat rooms and try to get comfortable with females. Look on YouTube how to approach females. Please don't be suicidal I used to be like you. Believe you are the best. Don't let no girl ruin your confidence like it did to me. I changed up my dressing.. yet, I have some skin discoloration and I can still be social with females. Are you funny? that plays a huge PART. if you have acne clear it up!
if anything more please ask me!
did you read the question ?
haha dude you're ugly go fnd and ugy girl and go ake ugly babies you are a desperate piece of trash girls won't let you talk to them show them what up make em listen.. or you can just roufie some girl and tie herin your basement or jut hve sexwith her and leave use a fake name you'll be fine
you are so wrong you are acting like a big fat jerk
An alternative is also to get some cement shoes and jump in the ocean did that I ccameup beautiful hahaha... anyway women won't let you talk to them they shouldn't even have rights don't give them hoes the time of day. Just say shut up your a women and tell them what to do
Kinda. There's more to it than just looks. It's more (all) about what you can do for them.
Remember Briffault's Law - "The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place." - Robert Briffault, The Mothers, I, 191
what does the second sentence mean ?
It means if you have nothing to offer her, she won't want to associate with you.
what if she doesn't give me a chance to show what I can offer?
Then that'll sure as hell make it tougher. You'll have to do it indirectly, get her to notice you & give you a chance.
how do I get her to notice me ? I'm ugly
Are you rich, tall, extremely charismatic and self assured, extremely talented at some stuff or super smart?
im a student(not rich) , I'm 6ft , not talented , not charismatic , you can say average smart , don't know what self assured means
6 ft is a great plus. Are you willing to try and become rich and/or talented at something?
i can't become talented at something , you're either born with it or not , plus I'm in uni , so I don't know how I can become a millionaire
Hmmmm...you can still become great at things through hard work, even if you aren't naturally talented. & You can focus on uni and get a good job in the future. Women love wealthy guys who can be good workhorses.
why can't they work ? and why does every guy who does nothing here but party get every girl ?
They can lol. Doesn't change their desire for providers and protectors.
Because the females derive benefits from association with them.
love how they complain about "equality " and when someone tells them ask a guy out they say its a "mans jon"
job
Yeeeahhh lol...classic double standards and hypocrisy.
I think you should start seeing a counselor Need help? In the U.S., call 1-800-273-8255
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
not in the US
then google suicide help lines wherever you are.
they don't have . I checked
Where are you from? You've said Canada and you've also said Lebanon. And I looked it up.. Both of those countries have suicide help lines ;) I think you is a troll my man.
i don't need someone telling me be happy when all women hate you . Id rather keep crying in bed
Whether you look bad or not. This isn't life or death. Thinking you can't is just stupid. I know you probably have tried 2 ask tons of girls. Whether you think it or not. Try befriending a girl and then after a while ask
read my question please
I think you should just get out more. Meet more people, stop focusing on meeting women just for dating, because that may be what makes them not talk to you. Focus on talking to women, or try an online dating site. There has to be a reason other than looks. What do you mean by ugly? Hideous scars, balding, deformities, what? I feel like you just have some low self esteem, and even a little confidence in yourself would help. Ugly doesn't matter, I've seen very fat men get girls because some girls like that. I know a man with a mole that covers one half of his face, and he's married to a gorgeous girl. Those things would turn other people completely off, but those guys had good personalities and were simply just themselves until they found the right girl. Beauty is only skin deep, but an ugly personality goes straight to the bone.
i failed at online dating even my pic got rated a 3.4 on this site . I can't really get out more , I don't have the time for tthat anymore
Hmmm...First you say you're from lebanon to one answerer and then you say you're from Canada. Troll much?
In what setting have you been trying to speak to these girls, exactly? Nobody I know would refuse to talk to someone just because they think they're ugly!
You just said yourself though that you have low standards, so you're probably just talking to the wrong girls. Maybe something in your approach warns them off? Have you tried dating sites?
university . failed at online dating . got a 3.4 rating on this site
on the "would you date me" feature thingy? When I asked what setting though, I meant like,at bars/ nightclubs or at the library?
on campus , can't go to bars yet , and at bars its going to be even worse
So, do you just walk up to random girls on campus and start a conversation?
thats my only option
Of course you're going to get odd looks doing that! What do you say to them? You're probably coming off as a bit creepy. Haven't you tried to join a society/ club or take up a new sport where you can mix naturally? It also gives you a topic of conversation to start out with. I've only ever dated one guy who approached me out of the blue at the library. He only got away with it because he had an irish accent, a bunch of tattoos & a crippled hand. We spoke for an hour solid and went from there.
read the question please . I've joined clubs and women refuse to talk to me there +nobody does any sport to make friends , they go there they play and leave . I've been called ugly before too multiple times
I did read the question. Joining a gym is not the same as joining a club. I'm talking student societies like a gospel choir, gaming society or a f*cking drama club - whatever floats your boat. I'll have you know I have joined sports clubs to make friends and have succeeded in doing so. I have also dated guys I've met through sport clubs. Maybe you're picking the wrong ones. Tbh though, (I know it's hard to read tone of voice from text, but) your personality's coming off a little ugly.
i am in a public speaking club . Girls there refuse to talk to me , even the first day I came in and asked is this the speaking club , they looked at me disgusted said yes and never spoke to me again. And second girls can easily get dates , third is my personality ugly because I'm disagreeing with you ?
there was a girl who liked me online but she never saw my picture . I put no pic . When I thought that she liked me , I sent my picture , she blocked me
I'm not saying that because you're disagreeing me. I'm trying really hard to see where you're coming from, and I genuinely want to be able to give you some advice, but that's really difficult when you're being super negative. I think most people on here are having a hard time trying to imagine your predicament. If you already have a photo posted of you on the "Rate-Me" thing, why don't you post one here? You're anon anyway.
I swear it has to be something in your approach. Maybe you come off as cocky? This guy for example link isn't the best looker, but he has been dating a friend of mine for over a year now.
this man is still better than me
You're anonymous anyway, so why not post some pictures? Why don't you do it (maybe in a separate question) to ask if people would talk to you in person? This one doesn't seem to be getting you anywhere. I really do hope it works out for you in the end in any case.
send it 2 you in private?
I don't like giving out my email address sorry
well gag account ?
I am no longer anonymous, go for it.
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keep on going to the gym and keep begin you if a girl likes you they will like you for you every guy ugly or not have a girl waiting for them.Girls like guys that are always them and Confidence .
thats what they all say then you find them with good looking guys
while me that's what I like about guys
that isn't true a girl will like you for you trust me
but aloot of people get to date every week
join groups and teams you could see a girl there
In the first place there are no ugly people not physically anyway although some people have an ugly personality...So I don't care what you look like but if you aren't the one for me then that's all there is to it...No amount of so called good looks charms whatever will keep me if its not working...It has to be because we are compatible because of the attraction some spark that keeps the flame burning... Because we belong and fit together and share much happiness with the simple things in life...Hope this helps a little...
bro, confidence completely matters. yes, looks are relevant but more relevant for guys chasing girls than the other way around. girls care a lot about personality as well. can you send me a picture personally so I can see if you're as you describe?
Don't worry, dude. You'll find a woman who'll love you for who you are one day. Just look at my parents. :D.
why your parents ?
Take us through a rundown of your approach since I assume this is the same guy as last time and I know you won't post any pictures of yourself.
So give us a rundown of what you do, how you do it, and what made you decide to approach said person.
saw her , thought she might give me a chance , went up and said hello my name is ***** and I find you cute / I like your style ,etc... and I wanted to meet you
No, don't do that. That's awkward and socially ill advised. Stop doing that. If you see somebody you think you might want to try and talk to, try to focus on a more situational basis. Like if the person is a classmate, often times what I do is I'll try to either sit next to the person before the class starts or try to leave around the same time as them. Then I simply look over and say "what do you think of the professor?" In a friendly tone with a slight smile, casual.
no, our classes are really empty . fits 300 and about 90 people are in . So I will creep her out , and I can't smile
I honestly can't say I have ever had anything less than positive response doing that and I'm average at best. The approach you're using, especially if you don't have a class with them or something, is definitely the wrong way to approach a stranger. Like, not good at all. If I see a complete stranger I usually fit it to the situation again. Get an opinion on something. In a starbucks waiting in line? "Hey, I don't frequent here much, got any recommendations on what I should get?"
ive done things similar . didn't work at all
Then you were being awkward about it. Get a friend to help you out, be your wingman. Give you real time feedback on what you're screwing up because if you're doing something simple as asking a casual question, and people are responding negatively, your looks have nothing to do with it.
my friends don't invite me when they have girls . I would be surprised if they help me out , and no I am ugly . If I can talk to guys , I can talk to girls
I'm sorry, but ugly has nothing to do with a strictly platonic social interaction. If I asked somebodies opinion in a book store like "I'm trying to find a good book to get into, got any suggestions?" and they respond by quickly getting away, it ISN'T your looks. It's your demeanor. You said you "can't" smile. First off, that's ridiculous. Second, it shows just how socially awkward you are. So no, even if you ARE ugly that isn't your problem. Ugly people can get women, but social awkwardness? No
im not socially awkward + I can't smile because of my facial structure
Based on your approach, yes, I'm betting you actually are. You're focusing on being ugly to compensate for it as your explanation to why people are acting in such a harsh way.
ive been called ugly before . by multiple women and I've been labaled "ew" , and "i can do better than him "
Oh... My guys werent handsome at all but they had that something! Don't worry! Just be brave and go for some girl you like! :D
i do
Then ull get one soon! Don't worry, the right one will come! :D
no . every guy gets to date multiple girls . I can't even get one to let me be her friend
Lets make things clear. What is your line and style when you approach girls?
either hello , casual talk , or a compliment
It matters, work with what you've got. Confident ugly man vs un-confident ugly man, confident wins.
Rotflmfao! that was a good joke Mana!
Confidence is always attractive. The one thing I look in a guy is if he is confident. I sometimes even fall for supposedly 'ugly' people because they have really great personalities, so looks aren't everything, but with confidence, you could be attractive inside and out.
sure