If you are not married by 30, is that bad?

[Anonymous]

[Lookingforthetruth]

By 30 women find themselves in a precarious position. Often the high value males you want for your mate will have fun with you and use you for sex/short term relationship (at best 5 years) but ultimately will opt to settle down for a girl in her 20's when they want to get married/actual commit. Some of these high value men may marry you but you have to be exceptional yourself for that to happen.

For the men who have been overlooked in their 20's and gotten little to no date dates, many of them will be inexperience with sex and relationship and you might find them unsatisfactory; though on plus side they are more willing to commit to you and be faithful. Some of these leftover men though may have a chip on their shoulder of only being given attention by women once they beauty/attractiveness in the dating game is waning and opt to do the same thing as high status males when it comes to sex and relationship.

By 40 and 50's years old, a woman often will have to start even compromising more and consider dating men who are divorced and/or have kids from other women.

[Lookingforthetruth]

[Lol at asker disagreeing with everyone that doesn't tell her the truth she wants]

[Travellingjunkie92]

Yer OK...

[cryscrys1]

😂😂😂 what the f

[DianaWest]

or a woman can just be a single mother by choice. it's not like these "high quality men" have much to offer anyways, especially for a woman that is smart, beautiful and financially stable.

[Fireguy17]

No not at all.
By then you are more settled, usually have a career so you know what you want and won't settle for less.
It seems that many people that get married at a young age end up divorced in a couple of years, many with children.
I got married at 21 and had no clue, and divorced in less than a year, no kids.
Don't be in a rush, go out see the world, do things that you will have trouble doing when you are married with children.

[Asker]

Im from Scotland and I've already gone out and seen the world lived in Canada for 2 years, travelled during my on university summer break all around North America solo got to see hawaii and alaska. Travelled back and forth visiting my uncle in pennslyvannia had some great some summers and got see a lot of Europe.

[Lookingforthetruth]

lol op most helpful guy gave the most blue pill and inaccurate answer you can get when it comes to how things play out.

[DiegoO]

"No not at all.
By then you are more settled, usually have a career so you know what you want and won't settle for less".

In theory

[DianaWest]

@Lookingforthetruth lol, so many women are single mothers by choice and don't need a man to raise their children. but it's great that you are "high value." congratulations.

[Anonymous]

So according to gag incels we should not be shallow. The commentsection makes me sick. We should only choose men with great personality and dont care whether they are manlet, broke, fugly, fat etc or not but they are entitled to date young, pretty, skinny virgin women? If you want women to not be shallow, then dont be shallow yourself. Plus there are more tall men than young women. Dont explain your bs with biology. If biology or your nature makes you want fertile young virgin pretty woman, so makes us our 'nature' want tall, wealthy aka strong men by this retarded logic. So if women over 30s are leftovers, so are short, fat, broke, ugly men by the same retarded logic of these gag incels.

You can't have your cake, eat it too

[Opinion Owner]

I have no problem with dating fat, ugly, short etc men aka 'leftover' men even though i am 'high quality' woman according to these people due to my youth, skinny body, fertility, virginity and beauty. I just can't understand why people degrade people with phrases like leftovers- i had to use it to show an example. Let people date/marry whoever they want without degrading them etc

[Opinion Owner]

I am again ageism towards women, bodyshaming short men, shaming men/womrn for being fat/broke etc. Before you misunderstand me i want to mention this

[RosalinaH]

True... If you are a judgmental prick others will definitely be judgmental towards you.

[YesIWouldLikeFries]

@Anonymous "You can't have your cake, eat it too"

Actually we can. Women can't though. Once she is passed 30 she is of no value. Hell even at 25 her value is decreasing.

Interesting how a lot of "women" use incel as an attempt at insulting men that choose not to be with women. That's right. We choose. Not you. A man can choose any woman. We just have to dangle false hope in front of them. Women cannot dangle themselves at us once they are 30+

[Opinion Owner]

Many people agree with me. idont call any man incel for not prefering a woman. Stop making accusations. I am just critizising a certain behaviour by some guys

[Opinion Owner]

Am i not allowed to tell my opinion now?

[Opinion Owner]

Without getting accusations

[Opinion Owner]

Am i not allowed to tell my opinion now without getting accused of something?

[Opinion Owner]

Actually according to statistics women prefere men who are similarly aged or few years older. So if already women over 25 are 'leftovers' for you, you will struggle to find a young woman since young women prefere young men. So you are wrong

[Opinion Owner]

You only can get young but a golddigger with your money if you have it and if you are too old for a young woman. In my opinion this is not wort it but each their own

[Opinion Owner]

I actually like many gag guys. I am only talking about a specific group of gag guys aka about some guys. I did not mean to generalize any men. So i am sorry if you feel generalized.

[Opinion Owner]

"I actually like many gag guys. I am only talking about a specific group of gag guys aka about some guys. I did not mean to generalize any men. So i am sorry if you feel generalized." - this post is for guys who are not one of this specific group of gag guys (/gag incels)

[Vegasrunner]

Lol, how can you ask a question and then get mad because someone gives you an answer? I think @Lookingforthetruth is making a valid point. Around 30 you're in a tough spot because the disney fairytale has worn off and women are forced to make realistic choices. I dont agree that all high value men will skip past you to younger woman. As long as you dont have kids you can still attract a high value man your chances are just less. I dont think he's saying guys are entitled as men have to earn their value so they earn the women they get. Also I think you're incorrect because there are much more young women than "tall" tall is subjective whereas he's already given his definition of young women 21-25 there's an infinite amount of them w/ more turning 21 everyday.

[Opinion Owner]

Lol. Infinite amount of them turn 21, but the number of them is same or lower since infinite of people get older too and young population in western is increasing. I am not saying that women over 35 have the same dating oppurtinities as 20 years old women. But certain boys on this site think they are all high value men and all young women want them

[Opinion Owner]

Averegae height for Men my age is 6'0 where i live. I dont even live in netherlands. People ignore to mention the age of men when mentioning men's average height. Todays men are way tall then older generations. Men my age are taller than our dads

[Opinion Owner]

@Vegasrunner insulting someone as leftovers is not answer.

[Opinion Owner]

I am just done how some of you act young women are desperate for old men aka live in a bubble in which young pretty women will love any man even if he is fat, old, ugly etc. If leftover women is a thing, so have to be leftovers men, otherwise it does not make sense. Since half of the population is men and only 10-20% of FEMALE population is 18-25. If men only want women under 25, you all will be single. It is simple math

[DianaWest]

@YesIWouldLikeFries women don't need men to be mothers sweetie pie. the most important thing in a woman's life for the majority of women is to have children. most of us have great paying jobs, sometimes more so than a lot of men. we don't need to wait around for self-proclaimed "high-value" men who call women over 30 leftovers to come in and save us. continue to be a delusional asshole who devalues women, because i can already see a future where more and more women will choose to be single mothers by choice and men like you can just marry each other and other "high-value" men. lol, you're 37 and probably still single. you better start searching for your husband soon.

[DianaWest]

@Vegasrunner sit down old geezer.

[DianaWest]

@Vegasrunner why does a woman need a "high-value" man if she already has kids? she already has 3 babies to raise, she doesn't need a man child as well. why do men act as if children are a burden? let me tell you honey something, most women care far more for children than they do for "high-value" men.

[oh_k789]

I wouldn't be that confident that most or all men privy to the realities of the mating marketplace be "incels".
That Russian writer Tolstoy once wrote the more a man knew women and their nature, the less respect he'd be able to have for them.

[YesIWouldLikeFries]

@DianaWest I don't care what "women" want or need. That's irrelevant.
As for being single you're assuming I don't like it. But I do. No one to annoy me. Why would I want some dumb bitch wasting my time and resources?

Also I'm not 37. I'm older. You failed the most basic test. Don't believe everything you read on the internet 😂🤣😂🤣

[YesIWouldLikeFries]

With each generation people get taller.

[Opinion Owner]

Young population is decreasing *******

[Vegasrunner]

Huh? Basic Math the pool of new 21 year olds is replenished every day which is the point. Sounds like you're to concerned w/ men having confidence to actually look at thos logically. Every man should see themselves as high value. Do you not see yourself as a high value female?

[Vegasrunner]

I dont believe he's "insulting" anyone he's giving you a mans perspective of how we view certain women. You just dont like it so you're trying to discredit his opinion. Reality is women of that age are considered leftovers by some men.

[Opinion Owner]

Calling yourself high value or the best is narcissistic or very unattractive and unsympathetic character trait. And again calling the asker a leftover ain't an opinion and can be reported to the mods/ admins. The asker should mention the mods to report them

[Vegasrunner]

You're making the mistake of assuming men think like women. I like in Vegas and I can tell you as a point of reference it's common everyday to see 20 yr old women w/ older men. Women dont like to hear this fir two reasons
1. Women dont like competing so is older men can get younger women where does that leave single 30+ women.
2. Women dont like admitting that they are superficial. Most young women are w/ older men because of their money and women dont like to admit that because it challenges the Disney fairytale they've been taught.

[Opinion Owner]

"Huh? Basic Math the pool of new 21 year olds is replenished every day which is the point. Sounds like you're to concerned w/ men having confidence to actually look at thos logically. Every man should see themselves as high value. Do you not see yourself as a high value female?" What i mean is the number of them tend remain same, although young western population is decreasing due to low birthrate. Plus women prefere similarly aged or few years older men according to statistics.

[Vegasrunner]

@DianaWest That's exactly why no one wants them.

[Opinion Owner]

"You're making the mistake of assuming men think like women. I like in Vegas and I can tell you as a point of reference it's common everyday to see 20 yr old women w/ older men. Women dont like to hear this fir two reasons
1. Women dont like competing so is older men can get younger women where does that leave single 30+ women. " -
average women prefere similarly aged/few years older men ACCORDING TO STATISTICS. Your experience means snothing. It is just anecdotal.

"Women dont like admitting that they are superficial. Most young women are w/ older men because of their money and women dont like to admit that because it challenges the Disney fairytale they've been taught."- you think it is accomplishment to get women with money? This is actually sad. A woman can do that too. plus these women probably tend cheat on them with their sugar daddy's money with hot younger male models lol which my experience prove

[Opinion Owner]

I dont care what men prefere but they should not complain gold diggers

[Opinion Owner]

If they attract young women with monex

[Opinion Owner]

I just question the delusional mentality of these guys. They seriously say only women can be a leftover, which does not make sense. If there is a leftover woman, there have to be leftovers men too. Simple math. Young women are only the 10%-25% of female population. So only 10% -25% of men can date them except they are ok with sharing their potential partner which i doubt. As a result 75%-90% of men are leftovers according to this logic. I really dont care about it and do what you want with this information

[Opinion Owner]

I also dont judge anyone. Men and women can date who they want. You are misunderstandind me. I dont really care who men want to date. This is not the point of my posts

[Harleigh90]

No, age doesn't really take play in marriage. Never seen marriage as that important, its only in the last few months have i really thought about it, the meaning of it to me has changed too, used to believe it was a piece of paper, people spend far to much money. But recently realised its deeper then that, money is the objective of marriage its about sealing that love and commitment to a balanced life.
Being over 30 I do have the dwelling fear of never starting a family, having rumination thoughts for a few years. Suppose the family side plays an age part, but not marriage.

[YesIWouldLikeFries]

@harleigh90 "sealing that love and commitment".

You don't need to be married to do that. You don't even need money. You don't need any of this modern bullshit in actual fact.

All you need is each other. Everything else is worthless.

[Harleigh90]

YesIWouldLikeFries Basically what I said. Always believed marriage is just a piece of paper, never said I'm rushing off to get married because it's the definition of love and commitment. Just stated as I've got older iv shifted my view on it.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Harleigh90 I think you meant to say "money ISN'T"?

[Harleigh90]

@Jamie05rhs Yes I ment isn't 🤦‍♀️ Stupid fat fingers 🙄

[Jamie05rhs]

@Harleigh90 No worries! Haha. Just making sure!

[OlderAndWiser]

It is better to be 30 and never married than to be 30 and divorced. Not everyone is ready for marriage when they are young and comparing yourself to other people is counterproductive; you can’t force yourself to be just like everyone else. When you are ready for marriage, you will find someone and it will happen.

[aWes0MeNeSs]

No. One of the happiest marriages I know is between two people, one of which was 32 and the other which was a little older (not sure by exactly how much) when they first married. I know several also who have remarried in their 40's, 50's, and even 60's who are very happy. Life is not a race and there is no set age you need to accomplish certain milestones by.

[FriendlyDrugDealer]

Depends on the person’s vision of their future.


By society’s traditional standards? Yes, worse for women than men.
People have to remember modern society isn’t the same as It used to be were the man worked and the woman stayed home to tend to the kids and the home. Today? In order to have that, the salary of the man would have to be high to sustain a home happily.


Men and Women are now going off to college, having jobs , careers; so how the hell you graduate college at 22, work and grind your way to the top of your job or career and find a decent partner to be married within 8 years? Shiiit some people can do it but it’s easier said than done.


People are now realizing dating isn’t easy , finding a good man / woman that fits your plans for the future is challenging, maintaining a happy and healthy relationship/ marriage is hard work. Now add all that plus trying to bust your ass in grad school/ careers/ jobs too. You are not always gonna hit the target goal and that’s perfectly fine.


People deserve to be accomplished in their goals and life paths before making a big decision like that.

[zyxacb]

Girls never said to me, "of you're shy, a nice guy, let me give you a attention, and a chance because, logically, you deserve one"... I had to deal with the unpleasant harsh truths of reality. Women growing old, and beyond their desirability, as I meet far more interested in casual sex in their 20s, than obsessed with developing morals, virtues, and character to be the ideal wife & planning for their future post-ageing, but instead taking advantage of genetic handouts in favor of short-term gratification, thus building their own future reality, making their lack of desirability once they have little left to offer their creation, not a victimization by fate...

It's your responsibility to forego hedonistic pleasures & develop yourself if you want to be desirable in the future... I disciplined my eating because I never had a "young" metabolism, can many I went to school with complain when they grow fat, and are unable to manage their weight, because they took a free ride, rather than develop skills to control their destiny? My results are my responsibility.

[Asker]

Well my case I just didn't bother with relationships. I'm already good shape as I've grown up with fitness all my life

[Anonymous]

***before i make my comment, i just wanna state that i believe there are still great men out there who are wonderful humans. i don't generalize people, which is why i am going to say that ****SOME men are shitty, not all. women aren't perfect either, but in today's superficial fucked up world, finding a good person who truly loves you and will always be faithful to you and by your side is like winning the lottery.

it depends on your own personal goals. as a woman, bio clock is real but you could choose to be a single mother by choice if you have a good support network and are financially stable. you don't need to wait around for a man to determine your life, future, and whether you can be a mother. lots of children grow up perfectly healthy and happy in a single parent home. of course, that may not be ideal, but it is preferable to waiting till 40 to find "the one" and never having children. at least for me, since having children is one of the most important things for me. if i am not married by 31, i'll probably go to a sperm bank. if a good man comes along, great, if not, i don't care. i have a high paying job and can fully support my future babies. the good quality men these days are dwindling rapidly, even though many of them like to believe they are "high value," lol. better to be a single mother than to get with a man who is more work and more stress than a baby.

usually when a man has to go around telling the world he is "high value," he either has a tiny pickle, a lackluster personality, a bad job, or all of the above. if some men continue to be assholes (just take a look at some of their comments below), we may have a future where more and more women will choose to be single mothers by choice and those men can just marry each other because they are so "high value".

[Dazed0N0Confused]

Marriage isn't a big deal for me. Mind you, I have an ex-husband, but I never believed in marriage, only getting married to him because of legal, immigration reasons. We were together for 6 years before we got married, were married a year, separated for another & finally divorced.
I was happy just being together, in our civil union, but we tied the knot & then it fell apart.
I have several theories as to why we fell apart, mostly cultural reasons on his part that he didn't like that I wouldn't conform to.
But marriage should NOT be an end goal, live your life in the moment & enjoy what you have today, as tomorrow isn't promised.

[TransAm85]

I got married when I was 27 and I think I should have waited bc I didn't know my now husband completely. I was in a rush bc I had gotten pregnant, which turned into a miscarriage, yet we still had major good sex. Whatever you do, make sure he's not much older than you bc men lose their libido after 40, unless udc about that.

[Asker]

Thanks dear for the insight. Yes sometimes in life its difficult to know what you really want and if it's the right thing to fo.

[TransAm85]

Yes and now I am considering a divorce, but after being together for almost 11 years totally, I am just accustomed to this lifestyle. I am afraid of starting over since I am getting up there in age 😄 .. but if you are not truly happy, it will not work. Some women think $$ matters. No way. You have to be happy.

[Asker]

Absolutely 100. I'm really sorry you aren't fully happy in the marriage

[PlaticXrealityx]

I belong to a more traditional culture and nowadays most women are getting married in their late 20's / early 30's compared to my mom's generation which was late teens / early 20's. Most women are getting an education, traveling, making sure thet have a steady job before they settle down. Some even make sure to have saved up some money so they can buy a home together with their partners. And everyone is having kids. So no, I don't think it's bad. All the divorced people I know, or the ones stuck in bad marriages got married before 25.

[Losalt]

Here it's mid to late thirties that's the norm for marriages...

[n4meAL]

Nice

[ObscuredBeyond]

There are worse fates. Try having a genetic predisposition of being extremely hernia-prone, and trying to find a job you qualify for that isn't going to doom you to a life of endless surgeries. Add in a life of constant disruption and freak accidents. Throw on top your truest loves dying or being ripped away. Losing almost everything to the current crop of political insanity going on, having to start over with a broken body and mind, and try to find a date that wants anything to do with you, knowing that you have a black cat stalking your life path.
Then, try weeding out the gold diggers. Some are so shameless and bottom-feeding, they'll hover over you like a vulture, to pick away at whatever goods they can hope to snatch, not even waiting for you to be dead first.

[SmokyOne]

Damn there're a lot of idiots in this comment section 🙄

I'd say no it's not bad necessarily however that's kinda dependent on what you're looking for out of a marriage.
If it's a life partner then any age is fine.
If you're looking to start a family I'd suggest starting a couple years sooner to account for finding the right one, engagement time, etc
Guys in their 30s likely have a kid from a previous relationship so that's something to think on as well
Not trying trying to be a downer just keep in mind that the older people get the more baggage they tend to pick up. Just be prepared is all. I don't think of anyone as leftover or whatever people were saying, and I don't really agree with putting value on people like they're cattle

I had my comment thought out in a more articulate way but the comments were pretty disgusting and threw me off my train of thought

[Asker]

I'm probably a bit late for starting a family if I'm turning 30 in August. By the time I find someone ot could be too late

[SmokyOne]

Maybe? But I wouldn't give up on the idea if it's something I really wanted.

[DianaWest]

@Asker women still have a pretty good chance of getting pregnant until about 38 or 40. keep trying till then. honestly, a woman can still get pregnant till menopause. but you still have a good 9 years left.

[SmokyOne]

@DianaWest You're right, women absolutely can. This is the info I had in mind though "A woman in her early to mid-20s has a 25–30% chance of getting pregnant every month. Fertility generally starts to reduce when a woman is in her early 30s, and more so after the age of 35. By age 40, the chance of getting pregnant in any monthly cycle is around 5%." From betterhealth. org

So yes there are some years left but I wouldn't say good necessarily. More like it's time to really get on it (inappropriate pun unintended)

[OpenClose]

I can't say myself. I'll probably lurk this topic.

I turned 30 recently and it's super freaky to do so while single. I feel like everyone got snatched up and married in their 20's like some party I wasn't invited to.

After college, I just put more emphasis on putting my life together which had me focusing more inward on building up my career and home, and not outward on building a new circle of friends and meeting new people. So my home life is doing pretty damned well, but my social life has taken a hit.

[Anonymous]

No, but realistically your options will be more limited the older you get. Also if you want children you, being pregnant after age 35 makes certain complications more likely, including premature birth, birth defects and getting pregnant with multiples. If you're older than 35, you may want to have prenatal screening tests to see if your baby is at risk for certain birth defects. You can have a healthy baby after 35, It is just more likely for an older mother to have these problems than it is for a younger mother. You can also always freeze your eggs.

[Asker]

I'm 29 at the moment I really need to get going with ir

[Opinion Owner]

Don’t worry! You are not old, and most people are getting married later in life. Don’t rush into marriage either. You are just fine! ❤️

[Asker]

I know but I'm still single tho

[Opinion Owner]

You will find the right man eventually 😊

[Williams28Jao]

Well it’s a weird thing to be honest for example in history wayyyy back in the day it was legal for 14 year olds to be married. Not joking. Back in the 1950s people were marrying around 23s to and up. However society has really changed that perspective on marriage. People are marrying later now. I think it’s a mix of a lot of things. Society, influencing, political, internet, technology, gossip, movements… many of these things will change a persons perspective on anything. And with an increase of people being more involved with the internet and with themselves trying to be seen by the world. The last thing that someone wants is marriage. You know how many women I’ve tried to talk to and all they want to do is just travel everywhere? I’m like well I’m looking to settle down. But they want to go everywhere and do everything and believe it or not having kids isn’t something they want either. I’ll be 30 this year and never married. I’m not losing hope though

[Juan_Sheet]

I hope not, as I got married at 35. Currently married for 15 years with 2 kids. It works great as a relationship as I knew I was a man in every sense. No playing. In the relationship for specific reasons. Companionship and to have children.

We don't argue and have a very relaxed atmosphere in the house. At our ages, we have nothing to prove to anyone.

[Asker]

How old was she when she got married? I mean I have ticked all the boxes like getting a degree, travelled and career but still don't have a boyfriend because I didn't prioritise for it

[Juan_Sheet]

She was 28. She worked for Proctor and Gamble as a sales agent. Degree in business. She had plenty of guys interested in her, but she never felt comfotable with them as most of the guys she dated were very controlling. I am the opposite. Maybe thats why we work together.

[Asker]

That's awesome I did a degree I business aswell but I'm doing a marketing job. Yeah I can relate I have slot of guys interested in me aswell but half of are idiots. When I move to my city I will start again with the dating.

[Asker]

I'm 29 and single tho so I'm quite worried if I'll ever find anyone but I look like a 22 year still

[theclovergirl]

No that isn’t bad. How could this be bad? Society wants us to believe that not being wed and having kids by 30 is a crime! So dumb, don’t you think? It might be calming or you may find life starts with marriage and children, but that doesn’t guarantee stability always. Certainly freedom can be dangerous and being single for awhile might lead to lonely nights, sadness and social anxiety… but it can also mean you are secure with yourself, you put yourself first, you don’t need to worry about much really, you basically are living the life! Being intelligent in my honest humble opinion. Because let’s face it who wants to be tied down forever like that? It’s really stupid if you think about it!!

[Moose304]

It's neither. I don't advise marriage for a male until he is at least 30 and for a female to at least get finished with getting her education. It's been my experience after watching many couples that the relationships that last are the ones where both were a bit older and had some experiences in life. This does not mean that marriage as teens or early 20somethings is bad, I mean they implode easier. The one danger with being a 30-something is watch out for that "first" love! The biggest majority of the time, if that first love subsequently to the marriage becomes available, that marriage is in serious trouble!

[Seinna]

If you want to get married then for women it's best to do it before 30 and for men before 35 to give both of you at least 5 years to have children with relatively low risk.

It's not the end of the world though and some people stay together but never marry. Definitely don't give up on it if it's something that you want, you still have time. You should definitely look into building a serious relationship with someone though.

[n4meAL]

Nice

[molonski2]

In a word NO , its smart , if I had my time over there is simply NO WAY I would be 30 and married , my daughter is 31 and not married , Im happy for her , my other daughter is 28 , and there is also absolutely no way she will be married at 30 .

Never , ever set an age limit ( thats what I did , I set one ) worst decision I ever made and the most stressful years of my life , thank god I dont have to worry about that now.

ITS A GREAT THING !

[Asker]

I know but I should start looking for a boyfriend now

[molonski2]

Only if you actually WANT one.. no time frame in my view.

[its_amelia_c]

You get married once you find someone you feel you can spend the rest of your life with. That one person that you feel you can’t be without, that lights a fire in your belly so bright you need them in your life or it just wouldn’t be the same.


You don’t marry someone because time is running out, you’ve reached a certain age, because you feel pressure, that it’s expected, etc.


Do you! Don’t do anything but you! There is no expectations! It is after all a lifetime commitment!

[Anonymous]

Being older I feel like I can look back and make some observations. First of all it's only bad if you really want to be married. Since guys aren't as focused on marriage in their youth as women I'd say a woman has just as good of chance as getting married at 30 as 18. The question is how does she approach it. Most 18 year old women tend to be cleaner slates then 30 year old women. Generally as a women ages she becomes less bondible with guys because with every failed relationship she grows more bitter.
I guess what I'm saying is women sabotage themselves in this dept.

Conversely I advise guys that if they haven't been married by 25. Don't rush it! The best partners are generally married off by 25. I'm not saying there aren't any good women over 25. But I guy should take all the time in the world vetting her. Because as we all know choosing the wrong wife could ruin his life.