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You Get What You Give! (Why I Love Being A Traditional Woman :) ) (Page 2)
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America isn't into having women propose, only radical feminists do that, and radical feminists are in every country. This is slightly similar to one of my takes about how I'm a traditional woman, except, I know how to use my hands for dirty work if I have to. not saying I want to to, but i can bc I'm not a barbie doll.
Divorce isn't looked upon horribly and very negatively anymore. Like it says in the book "Woman to Women", a lot of women saw what their mothers went through (by staying in unhealthy relationships) and decided not to suffer like that - to the point that divorce became a common occurrence, thus eliminating the social stigma of divorce.
You obviously haven’t been where I’m from, where we actually take marriage seriously.
Stopped reading at "Do men really want to commit to relationships?". That's like asking "are all women hoes"? Not getting anywhere like that. Are you "traditional" out of principle or because that's how you've always been and it's become muscle memory?
Both. I was raised on it. :)
And if you didn’t read it then you can’t really give an opinion on it because you don’t know what it is. I made a good point right there, so you stopped at the good part. Lol
Just throwing this out there... Men have more “whore” issues. That goes along with why they don’t wanna commit. So that’s a double negative on men here lol I can’t speak for the women who do whore around but I think most women would commit.
When it comes to prenups though, its a safeguard. Just because a guy asks for one doesn't mean he will divorce. But you have to understand in America that while not every woman will divorce him or screw him over, they all have the power to. So men have to be careful.
I’m promising him by making those vows that I’m staying with him and will continue to be the wife he expects me to be. If he has any doubt of that or thinks I’m more like the other women around me, then he shouldn’t be wanting to marry me anyway. I have no control of their actions and they have no control over mine. If he doesn’t see that I’m different then he doesn’t need to marry me.
@yads_is_back I like you, but I have to agree with Hunter on this one. A prenup is simply a pre-caution since anything can happen in life. That doesn't mean your man doesn't trust you. It's just a safeguard in case shit hits the fan for whatever reason. The goal is to make sure it doens't get to that point. If you truly know yourself, truly love him and won't stab him in the back, then you have nothing to fear of him having a prenup. On the contrary, if you protest it, it only makes you more suspicious. Do understand that literally every woman/girl says they aren't like other women/girls. But it's only words. Just agree to the prenup and enjoy your marriage. It also only shows him that you're more trustworthy and he doesn't need to worry about you leaving doors open for evil intentions.
So as you say you would not want anything to do with a guy who wants a prenup. The guy can also say the same about a woman who doesn't agree to a prenup.
@TruthBringer That is true. And I know what a prenup is lol
So since that’s true, obviously he and I will agree on it and avoid divorce. Problem solved :) it’s not like not wanting a man who wants a prenup is gonna ruin my life lol
@yads_is_back You have a good head on your shoulders. This Officer salutes you. Much love from the Netherlands
The only benefits I can see to being a housewife is this:
1. Everything is clean and put away.
2. You get to work more on your health and hygiene.
3. You get to do more of your hobbies (even new ones).
4. You'll always have time for yourself.
5. You'll get to spend more time with your partner/lover.
There's probably other benefits too but those are the only things I can think of. Other than you could make some money off of your hobbies while at home.
The biggest benefit I think is that she gets to raise her children instead of dropping them off at day care or picking them up from an after school program.
@Jersey2 Yeah. If you want to have kids then that's a really big one. But having a place where kids can interact with other kids isn't a bad thing once in a while. Another thing is she can feed the kids the right foods they need to keep them healthy too.
Our kids had friends over and we would go to the park. I think there are neighborhoods with a lot of stay at home moms and if women find those then it will be a lot better. These areas tend to be upper middle-class.
Good post overall. I don't think you understand mens problem with finding a wife though. You say "now the good younger women are taken and married and you're left with whores" well thats correct in our age bracket. For those of us who date much younger women, it doesn't explain why almost all of them are whores too and the few that aren't are obsessed with school and career and dont want to be a wife when they can be president or cure cancer. Lmao.
Because women who are worth marrying get taken very quickly by good men, and we are also smart. We won’t take a man who’s not worth our time, and usually a man who gets ready to settle down at that older age has a history with him. Nope. That doesn’t fly. No wonder he can’t find a woman.
Well yes i agree. The only good women for marriage get married before age 21. That still doesn't take into account that 90+% of girls that age still are no good. Lol. Like i just went out with a girl who was 20 and she only had one boyfriend through highschool. Me being in my 30s didn't keep me from finding such a girl but such a girl turned me off because she was ready to have sex with me the first time we went out.
That’s what I’m saying. People worth marrying - men and women - are very rare now.
You said, “That still doesn't take into account that 90+% of girls that age still are no good.“ YES. Same with men. I think we are on the same page and just don’t realize it lol
Yeah i agree most men are trash too. I just find it a bit backwards the priority on young men and their sexual purity. Shit. I agree sleeping around is bad for men and women. However most of the qualities a traditional man would have aren't going to be had until a man is into his 30s. So it seems like a catch 22. He must be young to be marriageable yet he should be wise, confident, protector, provider, etc traditional values that only older men are going to strongly and clearly fill all or most of those roles.
Its like saying i want a girl who makes 100k a year and is a virgin. Lol. If a girl makes 100k she's 30+ years old and aggressive so she's not a virgin and if she's a teen virgin she obviously doesn't make 100k. This is basically how i see your requirements of men. But ofc anyone can want whatever they want. I dont care.
I get you and understand your point, but it’s pretty much the same for finding a woman nowadays. Let’s be real: it’s just as hard in the same ways. Because everybody is all about self and sex now.
I demand a gentleman and traditional man who has the values I grew up with, and there are a lot of them where I’m from. In places like the U. S., well the women are worse but so are the men, so it’s unreasonable for them to want a more traditional woman.
What country are you in? I've not known many people from other countries or been abroad enough to know what dating is like elsewhere.
Im in the US.
I am also a traditional woman at heart and I wear that label with a lot of pride. And you should learn about Hindu goddesses because they are the epitome of a traditional feminist. I was inspired by Hindu goddesses to become a traditional feminist. They are feminine and strong at the same time. Traditional doesn't mean weak. Hindu goddesses are traditional yet they defeated demons on the battlefield that male gods failed to defeat.
Man, Latin America sounds so much better because, here in America I feel women are so egotistical and critical when I try to approach them ( not all) but, man if only we could get back to a more Christian society. Dating; especially at my age is t fun and it honestly kinda sucks.
Isn’t*
Bruh... and I think this is probably a issue in south america beyond chile...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGcjDHGYlqk
*note I do not agree with everything said, like blaming internet or free market, as I am not a Chinese Commie Official and proud of it.
"We are taught to be fit for our husband" are men expected to be fit for their wives?
Yeah 😂
Good observation lol
Ok then that's reasonable
Good for you! Really. But we should all be able to have the choice to opt into that type of lifestyle or not.
You do. Everybody lives their own life
Of course. Out of curiosity, what do you mean when you say his "go-to for pleasure"?
Submission and the fact that pleasing him pleases me. So in other words I do things for him because I want to, not because I have to
You can also look at it in a sexual sense, being that the traditional couple is married
So is he also your go-to for pleasure?
Absolutely
Cool. I'm guessing you're probably married. Did you sleep with any of your other boyfriends before then?
I’m not married yet lol
So you have had multiple sexual relations? Does that mean I'm not beyond all repair? 😅
No, it means the same man I’ve slept with is the same man who is to put a ring on my finger (had a planned engagement but if you want the truth it’s a long story, crazy love story but a love story nonetheless:) )
But to answer your question, you’re never “unfixable.” Forgiveness is a virtue just as patience and love are. Nobody is beyond all repair, and it’s never too late to put value on your life. So when people want to do better, if other people try to keep them down, it’s on those people who are in the wrong - not you or the person trying to change.
Thanks! :)
Every time I had sex with a guy it was because I thought this time he was the one, and every time I eventually had a painful breakup. I want to find the guy who will actually put a ring on my finger one day, but I don't know how to judge it.
The only real way to judge it is to take the ring first before giving in.
In all honesty, I got lucky. And I have no problem admitting it
I wish I had gotten lucky like that. Sometimes I just feel dirty and used for all the sexual things I've done with people I thought were there to stay.
Well nobody is more innocent. We’re all human and have done stuff. Not always sexual, but we’ve all messed up in some way somehow. And any mistake can hurt just as bad as another. The important thing is to learn from it, right?
Plus, if somebody loves you for you, he won’t let that come between you and him if you’re trying to be better. I’m not saying he won’t care, but I am saying he can look past it. And when THAT one asks you to wed, you’ll be thankful you changed.
Let’s be real: I’ve got things I need to change too. This is a good convo for me rn lol so thank you 😊 Sometimes helping other people can show me where I’m wrong too. So I needed this
Let's hope I eventually find THAT one ;)
I'm glad I could help and thanks for yours. Tell your boyfriend I send my regards and commend him for being faithful (I commend you too, of course)!
Thank you for such an open minded take. We need more people who dig deep in life and try to see it from a fair and just POV. Not just get angry defending slogans. Posts like these restore my hope in finding my other half one day.
most of this is right; but prenups are needed to protect men from systemic sexism in the courts and the older i get the easier it is to date 20 year old women as they go for older men, most women do.
We gladly will take an older man who is willing to settle down over a young one who’s not and goes around. However, there are young ones who will settle down, as I mentioned, and the older ones tend to have a history with them. So those of us who are more traditional... no, what you’re saying is usually not what happens. And that’s exactly why older men often complain that they can’t find a good woman. You get what you give.
And now, from the female opinions on this, you see why we're unwilling to commit. American women don't value men. They want us, but they don't see us as important. And so the wisest thing for us to do is let them fend for themselves. They can get their own jobs, pay their own bills, buy their own cars, and handle their own problems. So let them
Truth hurts, but yah, to many degrees, this guy gets it. :)
https://www.youtube.com/embed/ziQcJ9WnfawThough I must say, this take was actually pretty good and better than the usual ones of the like.
Doesn’t look like something I want to watch lol
May be more geared for guys, but he has a point that's hard to knock down. About the only remaining "traditional" women are among the Amish or in Cuba, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, or the like. Harsh truth. I mean, did you not use internet to be here and dare to speak to other men here besides from your husband/family? That's not traditional. At all. Many traditional texts would say you're a devil spawn for it and worst if you don't go back to the kitchen and kid tending immediately.
So me using the internet means I’m not traditional? LOL! I think you might have a really weird definition of “traditional” 😂
And no, I don’t “talk” to guys I don’t know online that way, if that’s what you’re saying.
Yes, it’s a well-known fact that most of us traditional women are from the Middle East or Latin America. by the way, I’m from Latin America.
1 : of or relating to tradition : consisting of or derived from tradition a traditional celebration. 2 : handed down from age to age traditional history traditional songs/stories.
Specifically, #2.
Look at communities specifically modeled after older ways of life. The Amish. The Ultra Orthodox Jews. People from the likes of Saudi Arabia. That's all true traditional culture. And allowing people on the internet, interacting with the opposite sex, even if not romantically, is in fact an issue.
I'm not sure how going by the dictionary is "weird." I'm not saying you can't be a bit traditional and a bit modern at the same time, which most in fact are. The issue comes when people say they absolutely positively are 100% one or the other, because then it's a lie. Period. Latin America in fact the hardcore traditional people are similar to what I already described, which would be priests and nuns. Anyone else is much more likely to stray from tradition and miv like anyone else. I also have family from Colombia, and I've seen first hand how the attempt to be too much one way while denying that there are in facts bits of the other tears families apart. In fact, here's a vid that describes what many guys think when they hear "Latina woman." (This gal is Colombian too ofc, and I am NOT surprised xD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPdgZPVsPkg
(key facts may or may not be shown: this character on one hand claims to be a strong woman, yet claims to want tradition, YET cheats on Carl. Remember, she is very much a parody of Latina women and 90% of men can see similarities to her and other women, especially Latina, cause damn they don't play xD)
Didn’t read the last part because you can’t tell me how I’ve been raised 😂lol
And nothing wrong with going by Webster, I’m all for it :) use it all the time lol and I thought I was the only one on here who did so actually it’s a relief to see that I’m not. But yeah, I’ve been raised traditionally and I’m proud of it. You can’t tell me I haven’t when you don’t know me lol
But thank you for sharing
Do you ma’am. I could never 😂
The details you pointed out are generally lovely ideas I take with me in other contexts of my life that doesn’t involve traditional romantic relationships. Different strokes for different folks.
Your right and I agree with what you said. Women like you are more valued and appreciated in relationships. It's a shame this kind of viewpoint is dying and everyone has become superficial hoes and dickheads.
toxic masculinity is a myth libtards invented, they're a mental illness
Mhhm... You know, when I was younger all I ever wanted was something long term but the wemons made me lose faith and I gave up altogether.
ur only 24 dude
@Froyologirl And? What's going to change?
You don't always get what you give. I know some women who are loving wives, stay home and take care of their husbands, the kids, the house and when the husband comes home (after whoring around), he beats his wife.
some men were not whores in their early 20s... they were just surrounded by whores and wanted a traditional relationship, so decided better to stay single than with the wrong person.
:(
Then it is understandable for those men to be upset. And those men are the smart ones. Uncommon, just like the smart women lol
Yeah I find some solace in the fact that there are many girls out there in the same situation, and really, it's actually easier as a man because men in their late 20s and even early 30s pair well with woman in their early 20s. I'm not wasting my time with any washed up whores, I didn't want em when I was younger I don't want em now.