Why do trannies trick men/women into serious relationships?

[Anonymous]

I don't have anything against them or their life choices, but I hate the fact that most of them refuse to divulge their "secret" before getting sexual with an oblivious man/woman.

A friend of mine was unlucky enough to suffer such deception a few months ago, and he's definitely not over it.

Why are trannies like this? Shouldn't they have to tell the people they get in relationships with?

[Anonymous]

Hi my tranny name is Samantha & the only thing i enjoy is tricking men into thinking that I'm a hot sexy juicy ass woman. I don't really make contact with men, i just like to flash my sexy satin panties to them. For example I'll be wearing a loose flary short skirt & bend over to fix my shoe & i know that the men are looking at my ass trying to see my underwear. I'll even stand on a balcony right above the guys so they can look up my skirt & see my panties. I have been upskirted many times with cellphones. I guess that's the in thing nowadays. I'm pretty sure my sexy panties are all over the internet. My only fear is getting raped, you see i don't have to trick men because they trick themselves. Men always want to look under a woman's skirt or dress to see what color underwear their wearing. I just make it easy for them & my favorite color is red satin panties. That really turns them on. Only 1 time when i was at a public park a fat mexican guy ran up behind me & he pulled up my skirt above my waist & he whistled at me & spanked my ass & ran away. That's how desperate he was for wanting to see my underwear under my skirt. That's the only time i thought i was going to be raped. Had he tried to rape me i would have just turned my back to him & given him my ass & let him do what he wanted to me. I have a natural big round woman's ass, I'm pretty sure he won't turn that down. Its better than getting found out right? Then i don't have to tell him anything because i didn't ask him to rape me. I guess the joke is on him for being such a sick fat pervert.

[HDSound]

Aye lets connect

[MishaMikado]

This question is stupid. A trans woman is a woman, and a trans man is a man, and if you're going to judge someone by whatever genitals they have (that they WON'T want to use, trust me) then you are completely ignorant. You are really dumb if you seriously think living life and dating normally is "tricking" someone. Seriously? Let me tell you - it's worse for trans people than it is for assholes like you. Trans people are actually beaten and killed if they date the wrong person because media makes idiots think it's fine to hate and kill other humans. And here's another thing - post-op trans women and post-op trans men can go stealth and be in relationships for years without needing to risk their lives by telling their partner their medical history. A post-op trans woman's vagina is so similar to any cis woman's vagina that gynecologists can't tell the difference, hospitals ask if they're pregnant, and boyfriends report satisfaction on a wide scale. It smells, tastes, feels, looks and works as it should, and self lubricates. So at this point you have a woman who is identical to any other woman - in hormones, voice, brain, personality, body, etc, so STILL discriminating against her because of her medical history makes you the worst kind of person. Also, that T word in your question is a p*rn term, and disrespectful. It's the same as calling any other girl a bitch or slut.

[Asker]

Calm down princess, my question didn't deserve the utter filth that's coming out of your pie hole.

[Asker]

You tell me a trans vagina is like a cis vagina? You're calling me the ignorant one?

[MishaMikado]

Um, yes... turns out that there's no noticeable difference. And trust me, your question is infinitely hateful by implying real people trying to have real relationships are somehow "tricking" you when the fact is, they're risking their lives by being with assholes like you or your friend. That poor girl could have been beaten by your friend and you would have supported it, you are a horrible person.

[LauraMarx]

do not let this animal drag you into a discussion about genitals. He does not deserve to even read the words.

[LauraMarx]

a trans vagina

[MishaMikado]

Lmao. You think humans trying to date are "tricking" one another and you're calling ME a bigot? And dude, I'm pretty sure I've seen 10x as many as you ever have. by the way, I'm hopefully heading for a consult with Dr Chettawut next year. Assholes like you aren't keeping me from being happy, I'll just find someone to date who isn't hateful as you are. :)

[BumbleDeev]

But a lot of people aren't okay with dating somebody who has certain genitals. They could fall in love with that person and then they tell them they have a penis or vagina, the opposite of what they want, and then it could be a deal breaker. Not everyone is pansexual

[MishaMikado]

I hope it is a trans man, too. Trans guys are (in my experience) much nicer and less violent than cis guys like you, so they're great :) we would be an adorable happy couple while you're still sitting at your desk spewing hate online.

[psychedelic_paprika]

The language you're using is pretty disgusting, though, Asker. Do you often call girls these kind of things in real life, or does the safety of anonymity make it easier for you?

[MishaMikado]

Gee I don't know, you sound pretty violent to me.

And @BumbleDeev, I realize that. It's normal and acceptable to have preferences especially about that. But this guy is saying he would hate and discriminate against a fully-transitioned woman who has a vagina just because of her medical history. It makes no sense.

[LauraMarx]

@ asker

nah dude lol no one thinks you should be fuckking trans women. Everyone wants u 2 stay as faaaaarrrrr away from trans women as u can possibly get

[Asker]

I can do that :) fuck the lot of them.

[BumbleDeev]

Oh well I didn't realize that. If that's the case then it really shouldn't matter, you are right

[been_waiting]

I'm gonna get hate for this, but I do believe a transsexual person should tell the people they're dating. Not right away, but before things get serious. Its kind of an important detail.
I think we get so caught up in being as accepting and tolerant as possible of the LGBT community that we stop tolerating heterosexuals wishes and desires. Most heteros would not want to date a trans person. That's how it is, and you can't expect them to change their sexual desires same way you can't expect a lesbian to.

But also, the word "trannie" is a bit offensive.

[been_waiting]

Also, your friend needs to stop being a pansy ass bitch. Omfg! You accidentally dated a trans person! How could you ever recover!

... by growing up.

[Asker]

Well he got lied to, so j can understand why he'd be mad.

[been_waiting]

You know the part he's upset about isn't that he was lied to.

[bubble_tea]

His friend liked what he say, didn't he? And he dated that trans person until the secret was out, didn't he?
Most people would not want to date an anorexic/bulimic person either, but some don't care when they've already fallen in love and learn about it.
Why don't you want to give trans people the same chance?

Also, it is kind of personal information that you don't want to share with people you don't fully trust yet in keeping your secret.
You don't tell your date that you're into starving yourself/purging half of what you eat before things get serious either and risk that he stops seeing you AND tells everyone he knows what you're doing.

[been_waiting]

@bubble_tea personally I find an eating disorder to be nothing like transsexuality so I don't see how they compare. But that's just me

[bubble_tea]

Some people think eating disorders are a mental disease.
Some people think transsexuality is a mental disease too.
That's how they are comparable.

[been_waiting]

@bubble_tea I see sexuality as sexuality, be it hetero, homo, trans.
An eating disorder is a mental illness though... homo and transsexuality don't meet the criteria for a mental illness.

[bubble_tea]

I see it that way too, but some don't. Anyway, my point is everyone has secrets they don't want to reveal to anyone they don't even trust yet. Anorexia/bulimia is as much a secret to the people suffering it as being born a different sex than their gender and are trying to change to align with it.
Besides, I can pretty often tell if someone looks trans. So maybe we should blame the friend for being 'blind', ignorant or uneducated in spotting one.

[bubble_tea]

Wait.. I don't see it your way. Transsexuality is not a sexuality. Hetero means you're sexually attracted to the opposite sex. Homo means you're sexually attracted to the same sex. Trans doesn't mean you're attracted to any sex, it means your gender doesn't match with your sex. It doesn't specify whom you're attracted to, so it isn't really a sexuality even if it has the word in it.

[been_waiting]

@bubble_tea its about gender not sex. I'm aware of that. I didn't use the word sexuality in that way.

[bubble_tea]

You compared homo and hetero to trans, not transgender to cis gender. homo or hetero are not genders.

[been_waiting]

@bubble_tea then why is trans lumped together with being les, bi, gay, etc? Its a similar topic that's why. Pardon my lack of accurate word choice but I feel my point was still articulated just Fine

[LauraMarx]

we should absolutely stop tolerating het wishes and desires

[been_waiting]

@LauraMarx that's like saying for the sake of colored people we ought to hate white people.

[LauraMarx]

c word slur

[been_waiting]

@lauramarx coolio. I don't really care what you think. You probably think welcome mats are offensive.

[bubble_tea]

Why they're lumped together? Because they are marginal groups, largely not accepted by society anywhere in the world and by accepting more marginal groups into their community, they grow in numbers. Simple as that. I've had a discussion with a trans woman here where she said that as much as 40% of the les and gays don't accept trans people.
The first 3 letter of the LGBT are about sexual orientation. The last letter is not, but the T can't form an own community when the numbers are so small. Maybe they should to stop people from thinking about T as a sexual orientation.

[been_waiting]

@bubble_tea I have already said I understand that trans is about gender identity and not sexual orientation. Forgive me for my incorrect word usage. Its all semantics at this point. I'm not sure what else you want me to say because I've already acknowledged that I am aware you're right twice.

[Anonymous]

I think it should be law to tell before sex. Some girl tricked girls into sex and only with lights off, both were virgins and somehow didn't know she was using a strap on. Well she was arrested for that. And I think transsexuals should be the same. If I wanna sleep with a guy, and it turns out to be a girl, that's as good as rape because I wasn't agreeing to sleep with her. People can end up committing suicide from this type of thing.

[Asker]

Agreed.

[MishaMikado]

Trans people get beaten and killed by cis people because of it. Fuck off with your suicide BS. Also, if you slept with a trans man and he happened to still have a vagina, that doesn't make him a "girl". Trust me, he hates his parts just as much as you would.

[LauraMarx]

no one has ever comitted suicide because they slept with a trans woman lmfao shut the fuck up

[Opinion Owner]

Yea some have actually, and many have come close. It's the sort of thing that needs to be told before yuu sleep with somebody. This is political correctness gone mad. People have the right to know that kind of thing BEFORE, it's fucked up if they don't.

[Asker]

Another classic LauraMarx response.

[Queen_naki5]

I read this and was dying of laughter. I thought it was a joke, but I actually have heard of this happening, very rear but lmao...

[Opinion Owner]

Yea it was some teen girl, and the funniest bit is, is she knew the girls from school and they knew her as a female, but she would dress as a boy and cover her face and never let them see it fully and go meet them pretending to be some guy they'd met online. I don't know how or why these girls thought it was normal or ok for their "boyfriend" to not show them his face properly. There was a documentary about the case to because it's just so weird.
The actual transsexual ones are more common than this type of thing, but not too common thankfully. Could really mess somebody up mentally just because they don't want to say it.

[Peter0]

Did your friend divulge before sex that he has a penis and is only interested in... girls with vaginas? (Is that what you meant by "tranny?") I mean, if he's not advertising his sexual preferences, then he can't complain if his partners don't advertise theirs.

I can get where he's coming from. But he'll have to get over it at some point and move on. He was obviously getting close to a cute girl, and it's sad that her having a penis was such a disappointment to him. That's life, sometimes :/ Girls don't usually say outright that they don't do oral, or that they only do missionary, or that they need whips and chains.

Sometimes sexual incompatibilities happen, and you usually find out in the bedroom :p Unfortunately :(

[bubble_tea]

Yeah, what if she assumed he's into trans women because she thought it's obvious that she looks like one? Who's the one deceiving whom?

[Asker]

There you go again, turning it to the man.

If he went for her it's obviously because he thought she was a woman.

[bubble_tea]

sure, because absolutely 'nobody' would want to love a trans women *rollseyes* tell that to the countless men going to Thailand just to find them.

[Asker]

My friend isn't one of them. How daft are you?

[bubble_tea]

And how could she have known? From his odor?

[Asker]

Known what? What are on about?

[Peter0]

Um. No, no it's not obvious.

There are plenty of guys that turn "trannies" into a fetish. And there are plenty of guys who would quite enjoy the company of a cute woman in bed... even if she has a penis.

So making assumptions is... not a great idea. Expecting his partner to read his mind before getting into bed with him? ... definintely not going to work >.<

I'm not saying it's his fault; I'm pointing out that it's not something people DO. Men, women, people with penises, people with vaginas. Some people are enlightened enough (and comfortable enough talking about their bits) to be explicit before they're intimate with someone. Most of us... no.

(I'm also pointing out that it's only one of many ways they could be incompatible in bed.)

[KHaskins]

Because some of them expect their preferences to be respected without respecting their partners' references in return.

It reminds me of that guy who was talking here about how he lied about being religious to get into a girl's pants. Relationships are built on a foundation of mutual trust and respect. If you're lying about who you are on a fundamental level like that, it's clear you have no respect for (and don't deserve) your partner.

[madispute]

That's like saying I have to tell any prospective partners of mine that I'm pansexual before we get into a serious relationship.

I won't tell someone in dating what my sexuality is until I'm comfortable with them and trust them not to freak out. The same goes for telling someone you're trans.

When you're part of the LGBT community, you want to find someone that has feelings for you then find out if they support your sexuality or gender identity. Bringing up your sexuality or gender identity on the first date is awkward no matter who you're dealing with because, chances are, you hardly know them.

Trans folk are not tricking anyone into relationships by not immediately telling someone that they're trans--especially if the other person tries to initiate sex before they're comfortable enough telling them they're trans.

[StickStickity13]

What if a pedophile dated you, and didn't warn you before hand?

[madispute]

Being a pedophile and being trans are vastly different, and the two situations are not comparable.

@StickStickity13

[StickStickity13]

Yes they are, it's still lying.

[posted]

Pansexual isn't relevant to someone who had a sex change pretending to be the opposite gender and lying about it, maybe your view point is different because of your sexuality, but most people aren't into that.

[madispute]

So, waiting until you're comfortable with someone to tell them your sexuality or gender identity is lying?

I've met chairs with more logic than you.

@StickStickity13

[StickStickity13]

Uhhhh yeah? Wouldn't you want to know who the hell you're dating? Your logic is ridiculous. Some people could be harmed psychologically if you lied to them about their gender. I don't want to date a male only a true female.

[madispute]

Newsflash: Waiting until you're comfortable with someone to tell them your sexuality or gender identity isn't lying.

I've had plenty of prospective partners stop talking to me because of my sexuality. Many trans folk have lost prospective partners by telling them their gender identity. It's not the exact same scenario, but a similar concept.

@posted

[madispute]

Let me repeat myself:

Waiting until you're comfortable with someone to tell them your sexuality or gender identity is not the same thing as lying.

It's not even lying by omission because you're waiting until the right time to tell them.

@StickStickity13

[Asker]

But if the "right time" is after sex... That's wrong.

[StickStickity13]

It's deception, which is another form of lying. It would be like someone "waiting" to tell you they have an STD, or perhaps a criminal. It's wrong.

[posted]

Newsflash: to an extent it is. Someone is getting into a relationship assuming you are the gender you portray, So people you've talked to don't like that, why keep it a secret, why not be upfront and save yourselves some time and drama?

If I sold you a fake purse made to look like it was worth 10 grand, you bought it, then found out it's worth about 5 bucks, you wouldn't be pissed?

[posted]

Also if the right time to tell them is after sex, yeah that's fucked up.

[Asker]

Posted is right.

[madispute]

Okay, asker, a man goes out and brings a woman back to his place. They spend a bit of time together and he attempts to sleep with her before she mentions she is a trans woman. Is she wrong?

No, of course not, because her intentions were not to have sex, and she did not initiate anything.

I think that trans folk should tell their partner--or someone they plan to hook up with--that they're trans if their intentions are to have sex and they initiate it.

Other than that, a trans person should wait until they're comfortable to tell their partner.

[Asker]

Ffs... Why do you always revert this to the guy?

If they're having sex, she needs to tell him, just as the guy has to.

I'm done.

[madispute]

Go have your mommies wipe away your intolerant, ignorant cis tears because I'm sick of seeing them.

@StickStickity13 @poster

[madispute]

@posted

[Asker]

It all makes sense now!! You're gay and clearly have something against us straight folk.

[Queen_naki5]

They're afraid of being judged. That's why you need to ask people nowadays if they were born all-male/female and sexual orientation just to be sure. That's where communication comes in, times have changed. You really need to question everything, or they won't tell you! I didn't know that one of my ex-boyfriends was bisexual until I had caught feelings for him. I asked him why he never told me and his answer was "you never asked". Trust me, I didn't get any vibe that he was into anything but women.

[Mustachekitteh]

If I dated a guy and later they tell me they used to be a chick once. First off Just the fact that no way in hell I could tell that they used to be a girl physically. I would be very impressed and have A LOT of questions about the whole thing. Plus I would feel bad for the fact that they didn't feel like they could just tell a person straight off they are transgender. Besides when we are all conceived in the womb. Every human being starts out as a female. So males don't become males till the hormone testosterone starts to really kick in.

[Longblackveil]

Because they know they wouldn't be accepted if they told their secret. There are very few people who would ok with it.

Yeah I think it's wrong, but I think having a sex change surgery is wrong in the first place and is like giving a pyromaniac a flame thrower.

[Caliiipacific]

I agree the deception is wrong. If you are a TRANS and not a natural born male/female then you should give the other person the OPTION of dating/having a sexual relationship with you. Seriously who do you think you are to decide for them? If I want to be with a natural born male then that's my choice and no one should take that from me.

[xobrowneyedbeauty]

something like that is hard to share especially if you're falling for someone and you're terrified it's going to ruin it. It's just like any other secret people know is important but they're afraid to tell because they don't want to ruin things

[Asker]

You can't hide something like that away because it's "hard". Pretty sure people would want to know if I was a woman beater for example.

[xobrowneyedbeauty]

sure they would want to know but if you really were, you wouldn't tell them

[Asker]

That's my point. What do you think will happen when they find out I am... Or when you find out your BF/GF was born a woman/man?

[xobrowneyedbeauty]

i don't think that's the same thing. beating someone is super fucked up and just makes you an awful person. but people have baggage from their past that they don't want to tell their partner and that happens all the time. it's the same idea as the transgender situation. it's someone you used to be, something you used to do, etc. it's not harming the person you're with but they eventually need to know. but it's not the same as being a wife beater at all.

[Asker]

If it's not "harming" them, then where's the harm in telling them?

If you're going to hide it away, isn't it a big deal (breaker)?

If my GF said "I was born a man" one day, I'd leave her.

[thesunstillshines]

They probably don't want to be rejected. They want the person to love them for who they are inside rather than their body parts

[Asker]

And that, is pretty damn selfish.

[thesunstillshines]

Yeah it is. They're scared though
It's best to just be straight up from the start

[Asker]

Yeah definitely. My poor friend is literally having a breakdown... he really loved her, but he can't deal with the fact she was born a man.

[Freddius]

If a transgendered woman accepts a date from a heterosexual man or copulates with him under the guise of being a natural born woman, it is deception. End of story.

People who have nothing to hide, hide nothing.

[LauraMarx]

it is not even deserving of an answer

trans dyke love is indominable

www.gayinthe80s.com/.../labryis.jpg

[MishaMikado]

I know right. I don't know why I even bother anymore with some of the transphobic assholes on this site. This guy seriously believes he's doing gods work by hating human beings, what a joke. Anyway, you and I shouldn't waste our time here. I said enough in my other comments towards him and looks like he's being ignorant as ever.

[LauraMarx]

@MishaMikado yes <333

[PiuBelloAmante]

its something that would off put someone if you brought it up
They probably wish they can just tell their partner, but for them its not so easy
they don't enjoy being deceptive...

[TonyNoTiger]

I agree completely. Id be pissed also, who wants to be deceived?

[VeryBiFun]

I find it hot to discover their secret! I get super turned on when I find out.

Most though do share their secret in my experience.

[posted]

Getting called out, not having a relevant response and saying go away, typical kids lol.

The blocking was extra childish :D.

@madispute

[bubble_tea]

Some men probably refuse to tell they're still living in their parents' basement/their moms still do their laundry too.
Why are men like this? Shouldn't they have to tell the people they get in relationships with?

[Asker]

Relevant much.

[bubble_tea]

yes, point is, everyone has more or less secrets. and secrets are only shared with people you trust.

[Ihav2fart]

Why you trick people!

[bubble_tea]

@Ihav2fart You're the one tricking people!

[Ihav2fart]

With my sexiness!

[bubble_tea]

lol @ all the basement living/laundry iron and folded by mom guys

@Ihav2fart yes, so sexy!

[Ihav2fart]

You know it!

Whats wrong with the basement? Some basements are nice.

[bubble_tea]

@Ihav2fart hahaha, I'm just using his 'logic'. If some girls don't like the basement, it should be disclosed at the very beginning so you will only get to go on a date with basement lovers. Isn't getting dates already hard as it is?

[bubble_tea]

Because guys past college are not that happy to tell that to their dates -.-

I don't see how calling me names is going to make your cause sound more valid. If anything it makes you look poorly educated.

[Asker]

Because your remarks are almost childish.

[bubble_tea]

meh. no more than yours.

[Anonymous]

They should go to prison. It should be called rape by deception

[FartmanFart]

Tannies should tell they are or were tranny some people don't like to date people who needed surgery to become a girl/boy. That's everyone's right and they don't have to force themselves to view trannies like everyone else.

[KiaTate]

My guess is they want somebody to like them and just don't think the person will accept them for who they are.

[Lebanese_Muscle]

I don't think they're tricking anyone. Its easy to spot one. I personally think they're disgusting human beings but its not their fault the stupid man couldn't spot the Adams apple or the man hands.

[Asker]

Yet again, Muslims showing how backward they are.

[Lebanese_Muscle]

Not my fault you got fooled by a man in a skirt bro.

I'm Christian. Once again just shows how ignorant some people can be.

[Asker]

Yet again, I'm not the one was fooled.

Muslim, or not, you're a sorry excuse of a human being ;)

[Lebanese_Muscle]

Muslim or not... thank you.

Be careful next time with confusions. That's if you were confused In the first place.

[MishaMikado]

Are you joking? Another Muslim completely disregarding the fact trans men exist (assigned female at birth). And no, most trans women blend in with society. Trans people are in fact not what you see in p*rn or media, and they get enough hate without idiots like you continuing it.

[Rloco]

Dude I'm so sorry you fell for a tranny. They need to more upfront. Most are people are open minded but that's a stretch.

[Asker]

I didn't fall for the tranny... Did you read the question?

[Rloco]

Everyone knows when you say my friend did something embarrassing it was actually them. North but in all seriousness. It's uncool for people to make someone fall for someone fake. They should be themselves then find someone accepting. I was joking about it being you sorry if it offended you :p

[Asker]

"Joking", yeah, sure.

[Anonymous]

it's selfish on another level for trans not to tell.