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True or false, The women that complain that there are no good men out there, are the ones who bring absolutely nothing to the relationship table? (Page 2)
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I think the real women who can’t bring anything to the table are women who cannot support themselves so they only date rich men. Nobody cares about how many rooms you can clean If you lack intelligence , education and responsibility over your own life. Rich successful accomplished men are looking for more than a maid. They want a women with things going on in her life. They want a woman who they can actually share an intelligent conversation with. Rich guys can hire maids , they don’t need a maid wife
In general, when a person say there's no good men or women anymore, either are people who have a high standards for the other sex but hold low standards for themselves, or they are damaged by their poor choices in partners.
About the photo you posted, it made me cringe a bit. I guess it's because my model of relationship is quite different from that. I'm more of splitting house chores and economical responsibilities equally with my partner, in agreement of both sides, of course.
I'm damaged by meddling third parties. That... and seeming to always find the girl that's doomed. One dead, one dying last I saw of her, one in China that I can't get to anymore, two that didn't work out in the Philippines, one that turned out to be a thot, and another that turned out to be a dangerous sociopath. Two others abandoned me to join hate groups. One that I was interested in at work turned out to be politically incompatible, and another is the store director's daughter, so that's a no go. Another I was interested in would rather be a cat lady. So I try to be purposefully single until something improves.
Your "She brings Nothing to the Table" quote is obviously from a place of bitterness. It is true women do less today than they did in the past, but so do men. It Americas past agrarian society men would work long days sun up to sun down in the field while women worked long hours in the home preparing meals, which took hours, and cleaning which filled the day. The urbanization of society slowly lead to lower work weeks and easier jobs for men, while inventions like the dishwasher, washing machine, more premade meals, and better refrigeration lower household chores giving women more time. The most beautiful women I met were hard workers at the job I work at, there are lazy slobs in both genders. This prompt is a popular rom com or sit com quote, but not a reality.
I think anyone who complains that there are no good women are not quality men themselves. If you were so cool, you would’ve gotten a woman rather than bitching about them. I don’t respect men who judge a woman’s value off her maid services. You love a woman because of who she is, not her job or her hobbies
That is very untrue. When a women complains there are no good men out there, you must think that maybe the last guy she was with may have put her through hell. Maybe he cheated, or maybe he only wanted one thing from her. There is a possibility that she did bring something to the relationship table, it's just the guy didn't treat her right, at all.
Honestly, I hate when women say that.
I think you're right. Why are you complaining the "he dont do shit" what are you doing? Do you have a job, pay your own Bill's, or do you depend on a man for that. Be your own person.
Yeah, I seen it happen too. The man works all day and when he comes home he is expected to help around the house too. 😳
@Beth12345 meanwhile they're sitting in the couch and watching movies all day
Exactly!
I can only speak from my personal experience. I had a friend like that but she was also really bad at making decisions, would often jump to conclusions and assume the worst. It was very difficult to tell her she was part of the problem. She wasn't hearing it. So I can't say that's true of anyone else. But it seems others have had similar experiences.
I've heard your argument before and I would like to say that I have a different opinion.
It seems to me that the women, and men, who complain that there are no good women or men left, are those that have unrealistic standards and preferences.
Women and men can bring things to the table besides sex.
no, they've been hurt and their limited view is there are no good men available... all are taken. to me it's a defense mechanism to justify their feelings. it may be true to a degree as their perspective filters out better guys and draws not good. there are a lot of poorly trained males and a large number of spoiled ones in this generation (by females).
"there are no good X out there"
is mainly used by people who aren't getting/finding exactly what they want and don't like making compromises. They're likely the type that don't realize that either their expectations are too many/too high or that it's hard to find someone 'perfect' to fit exactly what they're looking for.
If anything that I've learned on dating apps is some will help keep the conversations going very well and some don't at all. I think it's the same here, for some women that's true but that sure as heck doesn't account for all. There are still good women out there I promise you
It's false! The woman that complain about no good men has lived bad experiences and surrounded herself with the wrong guys, same with men who think there are no good women. I guess it's all about what you expect from the other person. The high expectations could be a problem in any relationship.
A women who has multiple children from multiple men is clearly doing something wrong.
A women that doesn't want a man that makes less than her also is. That is not a good reason to rule out a partner.
But I think everyone that has bad luck at love complains that there are no good ones left. Not just women. Men are to blame for this too.
That might be the case for some but others likely genuinely have been unlucky in finding a man who respects them for who they are. Maybe they have had a history of abuse or a tendency to notice the bad in bad people because of their experience, making it hard to open up to people, especially men.
The same can be said of men nowadays with the case of women.
There's lots of good men out there, those women just don't see them because they don't deserve to see that side of a man.
As a mentor of mine once said; "if a woman doesn't bring anything to the table but sex, just have sex with her on the table".
If you just have sex with her, find someone like you who also just have sex with you instead of looking pure, innocent, less sexually experienced women, otherwise you are hypocritical
@hi_it_is_me123 my girlfriend fucked over 200 men in her life
Sorry then
@hi_it_is_me123 i still fail to see the hypocrisy though. if i only desired virgin like women, why would that make me a hypocritic?
It's not like i am a woman
I personally think virgins should only date virgins but that is my personal opinion. I just think it is hypocritical to look down upon on promiscuous women but a man can sleep around without judgement. I dont know , it sounds wrong to me to want something from your partner, that you even dont have it yourself.
On the other hand, i think it is ok if the promiscuous man dont date the woman just because she is not promiscuous and so he does not care if she is virgin or promiscuous
@hi_it_is_me123 the problem is, men and women aren't the same, and they never will be. People look down on promiscuous women and up at promiscuous women, on the bases one is easy for one sex, one is a great difficulty for the other.
I don't look down on women with a promiscuous past, because a persons past is just there to tell you how they got here. It's the person here that i'm interested in. Give me a promiscuous woman in the here and now who's just interested adding notches to her bed post, and notches and possibly friendship is all i'd be interested in offering her.
*up at promiscuous men
unless of course said notches are merely other women picked up and used with me, then that's the exception
But the outcome is same. It is does not matter if you have it easy or hard to have sex, in the end you have sex. I mean ugly, fat and old women have it also hard or handsome men have it easy but people would not judge handsome men who have it easy
@hi_it_is_me123 At the end of the day we're talking of supply and demand. I mean it's not called the meat market for nothing, because it is an economic market of flesh for flesh. At the end of the day sex exists for reproduction, and in humans we have over 500 inseminations for every pregnancy for the sole reason we have sex not merely just for conception, but to judge and compare potential partners.
The simple fact of the matter is, it's a lot easier for a man to get into a relationship than it to just have lots of "free" sex with many female partners. Why? Because all women view their Mr Right (aka the man deemed desirable to have a child with) in the top 10-20% of men (not in terms of wealth, but everything deemed "desirable"). And the women that can't afford to trap said a man, will settle for a lesser man to have a couple kids with, and maybe a 3nd one with said men they can afford.
Men on the other hand view their Mrs Right in the top 80% of women.
That unequal supply and demand, results in unequal value.
Said rare 10-20% man can have his pick, while said 80% women have to compete with 3 to 7 other women for their Mr Right.
That's why it's different.
@hi_it_is_me123 The difference is that men that ARE virgins are looked down upon by women.
@Hunter7754 i dont understand these women. I dont have a problem with dating virgins
@David_Kek i mean you can judge anyone you want in your mind but insulting and harassing them or gossibing about these people is rude
@hi_it_is_me123 Back when I was a virgin, it was a turn off to every girl I dated. I had to pretty much lie my way into having sex and tell her I wasn't a virgin.
@hi_it_is_me123 what are you talking about?
I think it is not ok to insult or name call promiscuous women
@hi_it_is_me123 in what way?
My opinion towards this is that today's generation people not only girls in fact boys like everyone thinks that hookups is just very normal in these days. people have sslry forgotten real love. Like yes everyone is having a thing of having sex. But everyone is just running behind sex. Not just boys but even girls do it they just want no strings attached.
By good men they mean some patsy that will overlook their increasingly hagged out looks, sloth-like bodies, problem children and lack of marketable skills and "rescue" them providing Cinderella-like romance to sooth the traumas they experienced as a result of their bad choices
The problem with this is that your trying to force old gender norms into an evolved society. Men can do domestic work and women can build a career. Unless you expect women to be a submissive house wife for you, what are actually looking for, because what you claim to think and how you formed this question don't seem to match leading a lot of women to call you out on it lol.
Cooking, cleaning, providing an income, love... Both genders should be able to provide equally (unless there is some sort of agreement where the woman does this and the man does that).
I am trying to force gender norms on no one. If you read the first part of my question.. Not just the image, it becomes clear what i mean.. The women that typically complain that there are no good men out there, typically are the ones that have nothing what so ever to offer other than sex.. And typically they bring along things like Extreme debt, and multiple children with multiple fathers.. Both of which are 100% her choice. She chose her path, She chose to become a "low quality woman"..
You're still not answering the question though as to what you're looking for. Instead, you seem to be dodging it and just repeating yourself. Can I also just state that there are men who also have debt, also have STDs, etc. How is that a woman problem?
It was not my question to answer. Remember i am the original poster.. its not my job to answer my own question.. On that same token, Im married. Im not looking for anyone.
Ofc it's true. These women who bitch and whine that all the good guys are gone? They look like shit and act like shit, because they are shit, and still they have the audacity to make demands. What they should be is grateful that some guys would consider fucking them when drunk, the stupid cunts.
I have asked on GAG many times, "what do you offer besides sex" to several women. What do I get as a reply? ***Chirping Crickets***
On some level most modern women know they have little to nothing to offer a man. Women have been coasting on their "brand", but the brand has begun to fade and the lack of value is shining through.
Yeah, whenever a girl asks why guys only want her for sex and I ask her that I get the same reaction. I think they're taught that guys should just like them as they are, as well as feminism teaching them that they shouldn't do anything for the express pleasure their man - to reject male ("patriarchal") standards. And for some reason they can't see that that's why that happens so much to them, so they continue to try to use sex as the lure, ensuring that it continues to happen.